Dr. Bruce Greyson - After - WMRA Books & Brews Feb 2023
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- WMRA’s February 2023 Books & Brews featuring Dr. Bruce Greyson, discussing his book, "After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal about Life and Beyond."
Hosted by Mary Katharine Froehlich from Stone Soup Books
The discussion took place at Pale Fire Brewing Company in Harrisonburg, VA.
WMRA's Books & Brews series is sponsored by Gaines Group Architects.
Amazing analogy that the brain is a LIMITER of consciousness.
Bruce Grayson is an amazing person. I enjoy listening to his genuine and convincing descriptions of the NDE’s he has been studying.
"I'm a scientist. I study things, that we don't understand."
I suffer from depression. Even when I was a little girl I was depressed. I dont know why. But, reading Dr. Greyson's book gave me so much joy. It really makes me feel so much better to know that this depression is only a human condition and that it doesn't last forever and that this really is not our home, and to be kind to others always. I cannot wait to meet Jesus.
I completely understand. I started reading this book because I was recently diagnosed with PTSD due to a really bad depressive episode. His book is giving me so much peace and joy.
I'm from Bonaire Netherlands Antilles in the Caribbean. I'm 70 years old, and like to hear bruce Greyson. He's fantastic.
When I was 10 years old in the urly 60's, my parents was renting a house near the coastline. On day our landlord in the urly 60's asked my parents to move because she needed her house. My parents didn't move soon enough because they couldn't find a new house. And then one day arround 06:30 PM a a strong wind came arround our house, followed by heavy footsteps walking on our roof. It was so heavy like soldiers booths, and went from beginning of the roof to the end, and returning back. This "thing" continue coming back almost daily arround the same time, and also appeared in the house at night in different forms. This made my parents move out to an old house because they couldn't take it anymore. What we have experienced then made us all believe strongly in the spiritual world and I know for certain that there's more out there then our eyes can see. My parents always believed that the landlord was responsable for the appearance of this 'thing'. On this Island some people are capable to contact spirits and have them appear, and then to send them to scared people
You heard that?
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I'm glad I came across this. Dr Greyson is a brilliant conversationalist and storyteller. I've put his book down on my "Must Buy" list. What he has to say is beautiful, profound, and--I strongly suspect--true.
When my sister nearly died from a heart attack,I went to see her in the recovery room. Her husband was there as I watched he got her to squeeze his hand and she couldn't. He kept insisting awe come on you can do better than that.I said hey she's just had a heart attack,leave her alone.He told me to mind my own business. When he started to take off her rings, saying the staff might steal these. All of a sudden I left my body and I was looking down at her lying there.Just as quickly I was back in my body.And I couldn't stand it anymore and ran out the room.She lived for another 10 years or so. I read everything I could get my hands on trying to understand what happened to me because I wasn't myself near death. l now understand better.There is so much to this world we will never be able to understand and I hope we never do .There is a need for mystery and intrigue in life.Thank you for this beautiful lecture 🤔!❤️
I honestly love Dr. Greyson’s work. Thank you so much for this upload. Fantastic!
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He does have a very in-depth non bias experience..
Thank you for sharing your experiences with NDErs !💖💕
Especially when Dr. Greyson said they said it was God, but not like the churches say, it was Much bigger than that!
Thank you for this!
A wonderful talk, thanks MUCH from France. ✌🏼
Subscribed.
50:20 I saw 27 years into my future, while on the other side. I was shown the neighborhood, house, and room I'm renting. I was shown the same exact model of 40" flat screen TV, smartphones, dashcam, and more. In 1995, none of these things were around.
When I saw these things, I questioned their ability to function. They looked like movie props to me. The TV with no cathode ray tube hump in the back, I was thinking it was useless, just the front of a TV. Then it was demonstrated to me how the little screens (smartphones) on my nightstand had all the apps in it and could be viewed on the TV screen... It was all very specific and designed to stand out in my memory for my personal corroboration.
I also remember trying to explain my entire experience, of which this was a very small part, to my brother and to a friend. I tried to explain this part a couple of times back in 1995. I told my experience to other people and on other occasions too, but I stopped trying to explain this part because it wasn't as juicy as all the other spiritual things of seeing luminous beings, the cosmos, past lives etc. but now that I have seen these things, it is, in a way, one of the juiciest aspects of the experience because it kind of corroborates the rest of the greater account.
*I was also shown the Younger Dryas Impact, the cradle of civilization (mesopotamia), and earlier epochs. None of these things were anything I would know anything about in 1995, except that they were shown to me while on the other side.
I wonder if you have ever been interviewed by someone, your nde sounds fascinating!
@@lilianamendive6222 No I have not been interviewed. I wanted to share my experiences for years and years, but I don't believe it would necessarily do any good.
* part of my experience was me being shown how popular this subject would be in the future like it is now and how corrupt players would be involved in misleading people. This was in the context of looking at the evolution of our species from thousands of years earlier and how it could easily take more than another thousand years before this species catches up with the sort of paradigm of consciousness associated with NDE's. I was being shown how completely not ready our species is for any kind of spirtual advancement and how easily mislead we are. I was being shown this scale of perspective and at the same time I was being told to be patient with this species because the understanding and perspectives of this species are nowhere near ready to accept any of this. Then I was being shown the minority culture that was interested in the subject matter that would develop in my time, like "the NDE community" and so forth. This minority culture was developing and misleading people. They had some awareness of the profundity of the phenomenon but they did not at all appreciate the reality being presented. The NDE community is principally lost in attempting to treat the subject like other earthly matters. This is identical to how all other religions developed before. The only difference is the species has collected more historical knowledge and become more technologically advanced, but the sophists haven't changed much at all.
I think Dr Greyson got the last story confused around 52:00 it wasn't an old man with a NDE it was a young boy remembering a past life. James Leininger I believe it was. He managed to recall that his fighter plane was a Corsair, that the ship he was serving on was the USS Natoma Bay and his drawings of the plane included the weird indentation of the wings, something a young child wouldn't naturally draw but that was a specific characteristic of the Corsair. Apparently he recalled that the Corsairs frequently had flat tires upon landing (steep angle of landing) and corrected his parents at an aviation museum when she said that drop tanks were bombs
The mind is the software, the brain is the hardware.
These podcasts should be shown in prisons and in schools
100% agree!
His comments are definitely educational, but you are walking a thin line when you have a host or interviewer format.
I wish he would have talked about the connection between Albert Enstien's theory of relativity and his college professor's nde
When somebody says, On God , or On my momma, some body is going down , On everything !
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The heart is the mind. The Mind thinks...feels...the Bible confirms this in over 800 times in verses...check it out. Amazing you figured this out. Wow.
Found Dr Greyson's talk fascinating - not just about the NDE's but also the way he recounts them, without hype or hyperbole. There's one point I'm confused about, though. On the one hand he says just about 5 % of those who climically die and are resuscitated back to life have an NDE, and on the other hand he says they're really common. What I would have loved to know is why do 95% not experience them? And do they experience anything at all when they die?
5% might not sound “common”, but that’s 5 out of every 100 people. That’s A LOT of people. We don’t know why most people don’t report experiences, it’s possible they really didn’t experience anything, it’s also possible they did, but forgot (or were made to forget for some reason).
Dr. Greyson has explained in his lectures that the medications administered in the hospital can interfere with the memory of the NDE. This at least partially explains why they are less common.
Maybe either they do have a experience but not remember it or they don't share it.
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Question; he’s mentioned previously that people who do hallucination drugs before dear don’t experience an NDE and that the drugs hinder having that blissful experience but the what launched him into this filed is this patient he had that OD on a hallucination drug having an NDE. Would love some clarification on this.
Well, it’s not a blanket that every person who is under hallucinogenic drugs won’t have an experience. It’s just that the occurrences of near death experiences in patients under hallucinogenic drugs have statistically less of them.
It’s just a way to eliminate hallucinogenic drugs as a causative hypothesis for the near death experience.
At time-marker 5:08ff he says that he did not know what the patient had overdosed on. Perhaps he made reference to your point later on and perhaps I missed it.
@@michaeldecarli5243 Ahh, I see. Thank you for the clarification!
Ya, he is referring to a statistical difference more than making a rule. It is helpful in ruling out erroneous dismissive narratives, like it just a trick of the brain etc.
What the patient told him could not have been caused by a mere drug trip though, because he was able to verify what she told him that she saw. So that part was after whatever the drug trip had been.
58:00 Are mind and brain separate/can the mind continue "after" the brain is decomposed or cremated?
My experience forces me to complicate this simple question. If I were to make an animated video representing what I experienced on the other side, it might be 1.5 hours long, but there would also be montage passages representing years and unbelievable epochs and epochs of time in minutes. The really amazing part is that as far as I can best guess, the whole experience might have happened in less than 5 seconds here on earth.
If this is at all what it seems then you could live on the other side from the beginning of time to the end of time and though eternity beyond time where the existence of your brain at any point in time is more than enough time for you to live forever on the other side. It's at least as weird as particle wave duality in theoretical physics, if not more so.
If that’s the case then why would a brain be necessary at all. There’s no reason to believe the brain is that powerful that it can condense eternity into a matter of seconds. There’s more reason to believe simply that the mind can persist apart from the brain, since people are able to perceive things happening in reality that are later verified, that there is no way their brain could have perceived
@CampingforCool41 I am not sure I can follow what you are saying or referring to in your suggestions.
- Why would the brain be necessary? Some say it seems to act like a filter for the mind, tuning us to an evolutionary fitness paradigm.
- The brain condensing is your own suggestion not mine. What I was talking about was more like a ratio for time passing through bigger loops on the other side, while only a few seconds seemed to pass here on earth. It like the ratio of the big sprocket to the little sprocket on a bicycle, connected by a chain...
- You are saying there is "more reason to believe" the mind and brain are separate. This is already what I have experienced, and I am suggesting that the experience it's self doesn't need any extra time for a never-ending afterlife to proceed.
That is the best I can answer your question. See you on the other side.
Do any NDE'rs become nonmeat eaters, since they say we are all one with each other and nature? Just curious.
Well, since we are all one I think eating plants or animals maybe the same?
I’m sure you could find some, but the sense from most of them I think would be that it’s ultimately not an issue in the big picture what you eat. Maybe some become more conscious of “humane” farming, I don’t know.
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25:09 Bruce looks very uncomfortable
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Being a scientist it strikes me is sort of a egotistical me ,me club. No one and nothing is going to fool me? As well as psychiatry ( apparently not recognized as a legitimate science)Not even a social science but does have a lot of very derogatory labels to stick on people and many drugs many very dangerous to treat the diagnosed by them mental diseases?
Near death has absolutely nothing to do with death.
Well they are NDE experiences which by definition people tend to have when they are 'near death' i.e. cardiac arrest, blood loss, partial drowning etc.
@@dellwright1407 So what? I don't believe in all that stuff about a life before or after death and all sorts of gods that is associated with "near-death experiences" as you can see in the comments. There is no convincing evidence for that. In fact, there is plenty of evidence that a degenerating brain loses its abilities step by step and in the end there is nothing left. This sounds so gruesome to many that they can't digest it and resort to collective wishful defense fantasies that they defend "to the death."
Proof? They also said UFO's were nonsense too. There is SO much that we do not know.
Greyson did an amazing service to the NDE research and will be remembered in history as one of the pioneers and most important figures in the field. But I personally think he is too modest, he should be much more polemical against skeptics, since evidence is naturally pointing to obvious fact, soul is immortal.
University of Virginia medical school ? psychiatry? what a poor joke.
Why is it a poor joke ?