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By technicality New Glenn is Fully Reusable XD But no, in reality, as someone who works at SpaceX I cheer for Blue and all the other aerospace companies! I want all companies to succeed. Also, Stoke shouldn't see too much heating in the nozzles themselves, that is the reason the heat shield sticks out, pushing out the shock front away from the stage and making it blunt. The active cooling is talking about a metallic heat shield, though I do agree it makes sense to flow some liquid through the nozzles. Oh and as a KSP youtuber I can appreciate you forgetting to remove the second booster you used to estimate where to put the ship XD
If someone were say, looking to work on GNC at spacex, what would you want to emphasize on a resume? Especially if you were currently in school for aerospace and deciding on internships, what are the desired skills and previous qualifications that are desirable
They might have many problems with re-entry of their upper space craft as we seen with spacex,but spacex is almost mastering the re-entry and landing process
The Stoke capsule shape is naturally aerodynamically stable, whereas Jarvis isn't... :) Mind you, we don't know that Jarvis will land with fairings attached, it would be smarter if they drop and collect the fairings like SpaceX F9. Other issues compared to Stoke: Jarvis has inward facing 'aerospikeish' engines, less efficient than the Stoke config and I have no idea if they gimble for landing! Stoke has kept their engines further back up the heatshield away from the bow shock so they don't melt. The Stoke design has way less parasitic mass in its landing legs because it takes advantage of its naturally stable low center of mass design again.
There is zero way that second stage would survive re-entry unless they plaster the sides with heat tiles like starship. The slightest bit off of the velocity vector (as you mentioned) would cause heating to the tank and most likely obliterate the aluminium fuel tank (for example, look at Shuttle Columbia).
NG could probably benefit from a gargantuan side mounted second stage (albeit only if the design would be stable). Starship will dominate the industry. Do something like Energia. Launch really really large payloads. (Space Lasers!)
do you think they would try to catch the second stage instead since getting rid of landing gear would decrease the dry mass and increase the payload capacity?
Stoke Space should sue Blue and say they can't use this design. And SpaceX should sue Blue and say they can't use droneship landings. They absolutely deserve to be on the receiving end after the decade of frivolous lawsuits and protests Blue has mounted.
How ignorant you are, Blue Origin patented drone landing in 2003, and when SpaceX started to develop falcon9 drone landing they sued them, but SpaceX winned in court "because you don't patent those things", so would be stupid to claim that is their invention.
@@theOrionsarms How clueless you are. Do I really need a /s tag? Blue Origin lost their patent fight because it was a stupid patent. And they lost all their protests to the GAO - about the pad 39A lease, about the HLS contract, every nuisance complaint - because they were stupid complaints. I was saying SpaceX and Stoke should be just as annoying, petty, and obstructionist as Blue has been just to be a pest. It was obviously not a REAL suggestion.
@@regolith1350 so landing the booster on a ship is stupid? because their patent was about that, their patent was cancelled because SpaceX has better lawyers, not because it was stupid, and you're still the most ignorant, because Stoke cannot sue Blue Origin for copyright infringement because their design is different, they use a radiative heat shield not regenerative cooling. Also SpaceX is the most litigious company in Texas, exactly Elon it's one of the most litigious businessmen (and not justified)in the world.
By technicality New Glenn is Fully Reusable XD
But no, in reality, as someone who works at SpaceX I cheer for Blue and all the other aerospace companies! I want all companies to succeed.
Also, Stoke shouldn't see too much heating in the nozzles themselves, that is the reason the heat shield sticks out, pushing out the shock front away from the stage and making it blunt. The active cooling is talking about a metallic heat shield, though I do agree it makes sense to flow some liquid through the nozzles.
Oh and as a KSP youtuber I can appreciate you forgetting to remove the second booster you used to estimate where to put the ship XD
What do you work as at SpaceX?
If someone were say, looking to work on GNC at spacex, what would you want to emphasize on a resume? Especially if you were currently in school for aerospace and deciding on internships, what are the desired skills and previous qualifications that are desirable
How can I get into spacex
That second stage with extended legs looks like bacteriophages
how many times did you try the landings?
jarvis was just the r&d, clipper will be the name of the actual reusable vehicle
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I used to watch this channel like 2 years ago. Remembered it today and I'm glad to see it's back!
It could be a cool heavy lift reusable rocket but it'll be really hard to catch and beat spacex at this point
They might have many problems with re-entry of their upper space craft as we seen with spacex,but spacex is almost mastering the re-entry and landing process
remember me from livestream?
After many landing failures and rebuilds, BO might have it's first successful landing before 2035!!! Go Blue Origin!!
The Stoke capsule shape is naturally aerodynamically stable, whereas Jarvis isn't... :)
Mind you, we don't know that Jarvis will land with fairings attached, it would be smarter if they drop and collect the fairings like SpaceX F9.
Other issues compared to Stoke:
Jarvis has inward facing 'aerospikeish' engines, less efficient than the Stoke config and I have no idea if they gimble for landing!
Stoke has kept their engines further back up the heatshield away from the bow shock so they don't melt.
The Stoke design has way less parasitic mass in its landing legs because it takes advantage of its naturally stable low center of mass design again.
There is zero way that second stage would survive re-entry unless they plaster the sides with heat tiles like starship. The slightest bit off of the velocity vector (as you mentioned) would cause heating to the tank and most likely obliterate the aluminium fuel tank (for example, look at Shuttle Columbia).
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Let me guess, Blue Origin has no problems with FAA
Piolet made video about blue origin when it is 16th anniversary of spaceX getting to orbit
did - did you just propulsively land 2 rocket stages manually without booster guidance??
NG could probably benefit from a gargantuan side mounted second stage (albeit only if the design would be stable). Starship will dominate the industry. Do something like Energia. Launch really really large payloads. (Space Lasers!)
nah medium and heavy launch vehicles will also see use
similar to how small LVs are very much in use right now even though falcon 9 exists
What's the point of making New Glenn if we have starship?
what's the point of BMW making cars when we have Mercedes?
they're private companies, let them compete.
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do you think they would try to catch the second stage instead since getting rid of landing gear would decrease the dry mass and increase the payload capacity?
it would, but I doubt it's significant enough
Not unless they’re going for rapid reusability
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Bro fell off only 350 views after an hour
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Stoke Space should sue Blue and say they can't use this design. And SpaceX should sue Blue and say they can't use droneship landings. They absolutely deserve to be on the receiving end after the decade of frivolous lawsuits and protests Blue has mounted.
afaik spacex doenst file patents because elon believes that patents are slowing down innovation
How ignorant you are, Blue Origin patented drone landing in 2003, and when SpaceX started to develop falcon9 drone landing they sued them, but SpaceX winned in court "because you don't patent those things", so would be stupid to claim that is their invention.
@@theOrionsarms How clueless you are. Do I really need a /s tag? Blue Origin lost their patent fight because it was a stupid patent. And they lost all their protests to the GAO - about the pad 39A lease, about the HLS contract, every nuisance complaint - because they were stupid complaints. I was saying SpaceX and Stoke should be just as annoying, petty, and obstructionist as Blue has been just to be a pest. It was obviously not a REAL suggestion.
@@regolith1350 so landing the booster on a ship is stupid? because their patent was about that, their patent was cancelled because SpaceX has better lawyers, not because it was stupid, and you're still the most ignorant, because Stoke cannot sue Blue Origin for copyright infringement because their design is different, they use a radiative heat shield not regenerative cooling. Also SpaceX is the most litigious company in Texas, exactly Elon it's one of the most litigious businessmen (and not justified)in the world.
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@@brycedarnell7395 not like that
New Glenn ain’t even flown yet shut up
no views in the first 8 minutes!!?? bro fell off
How does it feel to be less original than Amey Schumer?