Speaking as a student who worked with these "dances" over the course of 20 years, - There is a lot more going on here then is visible at a glance. This requires a remarkable effort of concentration for the "performer". I remember the very last time I worked at this particular movement, when the transition to the faster bit started I burst into tears as my emotional center opened and yet I managed to just keep right on going while one part of me observed with impartial curiosity the part of me that was weeping. Such a state of freedom I have rarely felt, I'm not sue even powerful drugs can provoke such an experience. This experience continued to influence my feelings by momentum for several days and I might even say... even until this very minute. Gurdjieff was a master! He wasn't just putting on a show... he was awakening the latent consciousness that is present in each and every one of us.
I couldn't agree more ! :) I discovered his teaching quite recently and would love to know more about this art of dancing and practice it. What you say about it does not surprise me : I already think that a lot of ideas and exercises in Gurdjieff's teaching are "difficult". It's not an easy way of awakening your consciousness.
The group I was part of no longer exists. I was a student at the Claymont Society For Continuous Education during its heyday in the 1980's and I was a resident of the community there til the mid nineties.
@@agneseiden6873 your arms have trouble staying up. But it is very uplifting. She was so light here it felt like she might levitate, her energy connecting and nourishing the dancers at the sides as they nourished her in return. So uplifting.
My college professor played this music almost every morning before class time. I’ve finally found out what it is! I love this culture, it’s so interesting. I thought it was actually Indonesian for awhile.
This brings tears to my eyes. In the past when I watched things like this, I found it just interesting and had a major desire to partake in the movements. But sometime later, after looking at this, and having experienced movements, on a regular, as in actually trying to do them, and connecting to the music which is a helpmeet to the movements, I am brought to tears watching this. For the movements are in my body, so to see the movements, with the music, is just an immense experience for me now. To get a taste of this, to connect to your body in a new way, to connect to the music and feel it, and to connect to your group, is just an experience that is indescribable. truly.
Gurdjieff groups exist all over the world, however they rarely advertise. It is not an easy way. However Gurdjieff once said: One can no more begin to embrace these ideas and not be changed than one can drink a liter of brandy and not get drunk (paraphrased). Effort is part of the process, you can't buy grace with effort but you can energize your consciousness in such a way that grace has a place to get in.
things are going wild without any attention, i watched, and her dancing bewitch me. that i am falling with... whole 9 minutes of dancing, spanning around on her own peace, the divine of beauty. few lines of others dancing with their particular rhythm, symbolic of the order in society. the center of herself made few changes but with its soul of blossom, music goes on, steps following, until we agreed to tempted by now.
I think there is some relation between tai-chi, yoga,sufi movements,jujitsu and gurdjieff dances they all seem to create a certain condition in the physiology of man so as to increase his level of awareness.
With such beautiful music and dance, you must wonder about these strange mixed feelings you have. what is it about? it's like some mysterious longing for something we've never been but yet it is like a beautiful truth about us, we humans. is it a realization that between all these noise we are diving in nothing is real but our feelings? or is it just the option we neglected, due to this big market called life, to be better creatures?
@bulgora I understand why you said that. There certainly does not seem to be anybody around of the same caliber as Gurdjieff. And yet, in order for you to honestly say "no one understood a thing," you would have to be acquainted with every one of the tens of thousands of people who have encountered Gurdjieff and/or his ideas and who have struggled in their own way. And you would also have to have access to each and every one of their "inner" states in order to know if they understand/understood.
I liked the way the twirling dancers skirt pleated in three parts as she arithmetic ly spun to a set speed. As for the sum of the movements and the symbolic movements, is there an explanation or is it an experiential thing for the participant of the Dance?.
He passed away, no one understood a thing. Once again, Knowledge becomes myth, and then religion, and then cult, and then again formula. The flower blossoms again, to younger eyes.
George Gurdjieff's logo & circle is open, down... and in video is closed, why? Open circle, It's very important thing, because mind, human's mind and micro world is more infinite and open then out macro world - universe.. do you understand?
I signalised it too. The skirt?: I think it is wired inside, to split in 3 parts (I guess). About the symbolique? It is based on ancient knowledge. :enneagram is one of the geometric forms. Search for it, I am watching now: In Search Of The Miraculous. Bye
The reason why no one will come to Gurdijeff's caliber is because Gurdijeff is his own man. He said that the student should not blindly follow their teacher. What Gurdijeff wants his followers to do is take his ideas and apply it to their own humanity. Use it for yourself so that you become a better person.
Old ways old beliefs. God, the master of creation is in everything. Humans cant understand the power and never will be able to. Dont waste time trying to figure out something you cant. Live in harmony with nature. Live in peace and love. The creator is beauty, peace, and love. Love for creation in all forms.
Connect with the True GOD Jehovah. Man was created by him.his mind his breath his heart his thoughts to make others believe in the beliefs of that mans word. Jehovahs word is the true word Jesus is his son. With out them nothin would be possible. Embrace your spiritual food
David Newman it's fine bc Gurdjieff wrote about all the world's religions including The Blessed man whose name was Jesus Christ & his work here in earth in BeelzebubsTales.
seems mediocre imo. I think Gurdjieffs ideas were very important but he understood the need to put on a show and to dress up his teaching without this kind of useless crap im sure his teaching wouldnt have survived
***** Maybe as a meditative practice its effective but to go on a stage with that i think its medicore. If i were to sit on stage in silence meditating that doesnt make a good show even though it might be helpful for me id feel sorry for ppl in audience.
+Victor Popov you have to understand what you are saying. he did understand the need to put on a show and to dress up for you to be able to reach the Divine. It takes will, action…you want to reach the kingdom of God…you are going to have to put on a show and dress up your life… thinking you are any bettter than someone else will not help you my brother. Surrender…and you will Receive. Have you ever noticed how an male animal will put on a show to attract a mate? well man is the conscious mind.. woman is the subconcious mind and only through her can you reach the Infinite Intelligence we call God.. and since you like to be literal.. i'm not talking about a separate man and woman.. but it's a symbol of you, yourself. You must put on a show in order to be heard. Are you still playing video games?
rob miles misperception and powerful delusion is the state of modern man as a whole. I like the way you expressed The Work through sacred dance...it was like a breath of fresh air. very few can speak of the meta physical in that way bc it is learned from experience alone. Thankyou.
Speaking as a student who worked with these "dances" over the course of 20 years, - There is a lot more going on here then is visible at a glance. This requires a remarkable effort of concentration for the "performer". I remember the very last time I worked at this particular movement, when the transition to the faster bit started I burst into tears as my emotional center opened and yet I managed to just keep right on going while one part of me observed with impartial curiosity the part of me that was weeping. Such a state of freedom I have rarely felt, I'm not sue even powerful drugs can provoke such an experience. This experience continued to influence my feelings by momentum for several days and I might even say... even until this very minute. Gurdjieff was a master! He wasn't just putting on a show... he was awakening the latent consciousness that is present in each and every one of us.
I couldn't agree more ! :) I discovered his teaching quite recently and would love to know more about this art of dancing and practice it. What you say about it does not surprise me : I already think that a lot of ideas and exercises in Gurdjieff's teaching are "difficult". It's not an easy way of awakening your consciousness.
Yes, that's it.
What is the name of your group and what's it's location?
The group I was part of no longer exists. I was a student at the Claymont Society For Continuous Education during its heyday in the 1980's and I was a resident of the community there til the mid nineties.
Thank's for sharing!!!🙏
Lord have mercy
The dance combined with the music generates a transcendent feeling of serenity and joy. Thank you for sharing.
+dounia abdelnour What about the turning around movement for such a long time. Does it make you feel dizzy or high, if you've done it?
@@agneseiden6873 your arms have trouble staying up. But it is very uplifting. She was so light here it felt like she might levitate, her energy connecting and nourishing the dancers at the sides as they nourished her in return. So uplifting.
My college professor played this music almost every morning before class time. I’ve finally found out what it is! I love this culture, it’s so interesting. I thought it was actually Indonesian for awhile.
I think Gurdjieff came from Armenia.
Salute and SALAAM to the greatest spiritual Master in the last few centuries
Buscador: If you listen close you will be able to hear the words English 'LORD HAVE MERCY' , Spanish: 'SENOR TEN PIEDAD'
This brings tears to my eyes. In the past when I watched things like this, I found it just interesting and had a major desire to partake in the movements. But sometime later, after looking at this, and having experienced movements, on a regular, as in actually trying to do them, and connecting to the music which is a helpmeet to the movements, I am brought to tears watching this. For the movements are in my body, so to see the movements, with the music, is just an immense experience for me now. To get a taste of this, to connect to your body in a new way, to connect to the music and feel it, and to connect to your group, is just an experience that is indescribable. truly.
I believe you
زیباست در این حرکات انرژی خاصی وجود داره حس معنوی قابل درک برکت باشد ااامین ❤
Gurdjieff groups exist all over the world, however they rarely advertise. It is not an easy way. However Gurdjieff once said: One can no more begin to embrace these ideas and not be changed than one can drink a liter of brandy and not get drunk (paraphrased). Effort is part of the process, you can't buy grace with effort but you can energize your consciousness in such a way that grace has a place to get in.
I hope all those who have had the motivation to find this video also possess the patience to watch it.
nice one
Bro it's not even that obscure
music movements deep ,peaceful , beautiful all at the same time.
Well done. All of these Sacred Dance videos are excellent. Wonderful performances.
things are going wild without any attention, i watched, and her dancing bewitch me. that i am falling with...
whole 9 minutes of dancing,
spanning around on her own peace,
the divine of beauty.
few lines of others dancing with their particular rhythm,
symbolic of the order in society.
the center of herself made few changes but with its soul of blossom,
music goes on, steps following, until we agreed to tempted by now.
So powerful!!!
Beautiful dance - pray - meditatation - love
Thank you for sharing!
When the ripples of her dress coalesced into a distinct, uniform wave with three crests and three valleys...
the spinning center dancer is like a dervish--- the sufi spinning on the axis of existence silent and still at its center.
Beauty beyond my words.
Maravilhoso!!!! "Somente quando Lobo e Cordeiro pastarem na mesma relva, a ilusão dará lugar à verdade."
Merci Mesdames pour cette grâce, a vous voir je me sens déjà plus fluide...
1.Pythagorean Tetractys
1.Combines 3 & 7
1.Three
1.The Divine Triangle 345
2.Pythagoras’s Theorem
2.Seven
1.The Octave
2.Nine-Point Circles
1.Zero Lined of Abraham ibn Ezra
2.Four Lined of Leonhard Euler
3.Twenty Seven Lined of Raymon Llull’s Diagram A (Reciprocal Maintenance)
3.Regular Enneagrams
1.Ramon Llull (Diagram T)
2.Athanasius Kircher
4.Tetragrams
1.The Great Magical Arcanum of Eliphas Levi
2.The Magic Arcanum of Madame Blavatsky
5.Karppe’s Tree of Life Reversed
6.Irregular Hexad, 1 ÷ 7 = 0.142857
I think there is some relation between tai-chi, yoga,sufi movements,jujitsu and gurdjieff dances they all seem to create a certain condition in the physiology of man so as to increase his level of awareness.
I think the movements “stir” the aura surrounding bodies in very precise ways to generate awareness.
Thank You for the music
I know that dancing like that requests a lot of work but the music is so beautiful and mesmerizing.
daniel heda the word "but" is unecessary there.
cuando regresaba de hacer estos movimientos se me quitaba el sueño recibía mucha energía
With such beautiful music and dance, you must wonder about these strange mixed feelings you have. what is it about? it's like some mysterious longing for something we've never been but yet it is like a beautiful truth about us, we humans. is it a realization that between all these noise we are diving in nothing is real but our feelings? or is it just the option we neglected, due to this big market called life, to be better creatures?
Profound insights
maravilhoso
I felt that...absolutely incredible. How is this real...?
@bulgora I understand why you said that. There certainly does not seem to be anybody around of the same caliber as Gurdjieff. And yet, in order for you to honestly say "no one understood a thing," you would have to be acquainted with every one of the tens of thousands of people who have encountered Gurdjieff and/or his ideas and who have struggled in their own way. And you would also have to have access to each and every one of their "inner" states in order to know if they understand/understood.
Isn't the point of this dance that the whole group should be watched. I wish i could see the whole troop for the whole thing >
beautiful
Brilliant...please also check out Devi Dhyani Sacred Dances
that upside down star makes it look quite devilish, or is that my pre-conception (likely the latter)? This is just so, lovely.
It’s not a star. It’s the enneagram.
You see it's us that are upsidedown.
So moving. Thank you very much.
i cannot describe the effect this has on me....
really similar to Mevlana's Semâ. "I take with my right hand, give with the other..."
Great Gurdjieff
I liked the way the twirling dancers skirt pleated in three parts as she arithmetic ly spun to a set speed.
As for the sum of the movements and the symbolic movements, is there an explanation or is it an experiential thing for the participant of the Dance?.
Very touching. Have to cry.
Someone knows what piece of Music this is?
Lovely!
Love all of you
Incredibly beautiful. Does anyone know if they are from the direct lineage of Gurdjieff? I think it matters.
Cuánta Belleza!
Nieuw voor mij, stilistisch, of gewoon heel erg mooi. Droom
@bulgora thank you for that!
It is not an upside down star, it is a nine pointed star which is a sacred geometrical symbol from ancient Egypt.
@bulgora there were a few who understood, but not many; and those who did are VERY hard to find.
who performed the piano on this ?
why don't that lady spinning around get dizzy?
it's enneagram circle. Gurdjieff is the one who initiate it western.
Great! Thank you!
Tremendous !
Do you know who gudjief was? A contemporary of Madame Blavatsky of the theosophist movement. He was a wise guy sort of aspiritual Guru.
He passed away, no one understood a thing.
Once again, Knowledge becomes myth, and then religion, and then cult, and then again formula.
The flower blossoms again, to younger eyes.
Forgive my ignorance but is that not just the Sufi whirling dervish dance?
Who can help me find a Gurdjieff group in Asia?
stage ? lights ? I don't know
anyone knows if the music is by Thomas De Hartman and if so from where?
"Момент, когда бутон становиться розой =- известен только розе)"
George Gurdjieff's logo & circle is open, down... and in video is closed, why? Open circle, It's very important thing, because mind, human's mind and micro world is more infinite and open then out macro world - universe.. do you understand?
+++wonderful+++
This ist the Heritage from sarmoung brotherhood Babylon . Verry holy 👍
the girl in the centre is doing rumi's whirling dance
invisible 1 whirling dervish dance
que es esto?
Try it and see what you find. Might be something usefull for you... or maybe not. Peace!
Very nice name dhayanprafula
شوریده شو ... شوریده شو... راهی بیاب .. آزاده شو آزاده شو... رقصی چنین میانه میدانم آرزوست
Tommy Roe should chime in with a chorus of "Dizzy".
I signalised it too. The skirt?: I think it is wired inside, to split in 3 parts (I guess). About the symbolique? It is based on ancient knowledge. :enneagram is one of the geometric forms. Search for it, I am watching now: In Search Of The Miraculous. Bye
😂❤❤😮❤
The reason why no one will come to Gurdijeff's caliber is because Gurdijeff is his own man.
He said that the student should not blindly follow their teacher.
What Gurdijeff wants his followers to do is take his ideas and apply it to their own humanity.
Use it for yourself so that you become a better person.
Mother
Old ways old beliefs. God, the master of creation is in everything. Humans cant understand the power and never will be able to. Dont waste time trying to figure out something you cant. Live in harmony with nature. Live in peace and love. The creator is beauty, peace, and love. Love for creation in all forms.
🌱🥀💙🙄
Connect with the True GOD Jehovah. Man was created by him.his mind his breath his heart his thoughts to make others believe in the beliefs of that mans word. Jehovahs word is the true word Jesus is his son. With out them nothin would be possible. Embrace your spiritual food
+Boo Boo lol
+Federico Michel I just had a look at Boo Boo/ It says "this channel has no content."
David Newman it's fine bc Gurdjieff wrote about all the world's religions including The Blessed man whose name was Jesus Christ & his work here in earth in BeelzebubsTales.
Boo Boo 887
I'm going to wathc the Village People sing and dance to YMCA after this video is done.
Σουφι soufi a- ω
Porcelain.
seriatsız tarikat diyor rahmetli nezih uzel gurciyef icin. bir ara toplu halde okumalı bu zatıda.
seems mediocre imo. I think Gurdjieffs ideas were very important but he understood the need to put on a show and to dress up his teaching without this kind of useless crap im sure his teaching wouldnt have survived
***** Maybe as a meditative practice its effective but to go on a stage with that i think its medicore. If i were to sit on stage in silence meditating that doesnt make a good show even though it might be helpful for me id feel sorry for ppl in audience.
***** I guess I can understand that. Definitely not entertaining...
+Victor Popov you have to understand what you are saying. he did understand the need to put on a show and to dress up for you to be able to reach the Divine. It takes will, action…you want to reach the kingdom of God…you are going to have to put on a show and dress up your life… thinking you are any bettter than someone else will not help you my brother. Surrender…and you will Receive. Have you ever noticed how an male animal will put on a show to attract a mate? well man is the conscious mind.. woman is the subconcious mind and only through her can you reach the Infinite Intelligence we call God.. and since you like to be literal.. i'm not talking about a separate man and woman.. but it's a symbol of you, yourself. You must put on a show in order to be heard.
Are you still playing video games?
rob miles misperception and powerful delusion is the state of modern man as a whole.
I like the way you expressed The Work through sacred dance...it was like a breath of fresh air. very few can speak of the meta physical in that way bc it is learned from experience alone. Thankyou.
Sufi, Egypt, Christian, Pythagorean, stolen from everywhere...
It is acceptance dear :)
i belong to different religious tradition: i'm going to see Beyonce sing "Single Ladies"
What the fuck !!?!!?!!?
you have to find people that are docile and trainable to perform like this.
So lame.. so hass