I love me some Hobbywing. Nearly all my 1/10 crawlers have a Fusion in them, my Gorgon rips with a Fusion Pro, and the Xmaxx has a Max6. I ammm a little disappoint that they didn't solve the transition jump though. Glad to see it's not too much of an issue! As far as HW's customer service goes... It's hit and miss between myself and my acquaintances.
I would like to see it hooked up to several different transmissions and see how it interacts for sure I can't remember how much they wanted for that little motor but it wasn't cheap
It has a lot of bolt patterns but it comes without a pinion which is almost impossible to buy at this moment. Mofo RC might have them. Totally useless release without pinions.
It does have the correct bolt spacing for a stock motorplate/trans, but the motor hits the case and you can’t grind it without hitting a gear. The mofo adjustable mount that allows you to slide it to the side should work(mine arrives Wednesday). You will need a new pinion gear as the stock scx is smaller. Seems it fits furitek mounts as well. Or you can get standoffs from Akers engineers to forward mount the motor.
Thanks for video! How does this compare to the original injora purple viper setup? My ascent is heavy pig, at 1.5lbs. I have lower trans gears and the purple viper brushless setup. I get some cogging when in the big rocks. Trying to decide if I should try a different motor and keep injora esc, or try the newer 2800kv viper motor or some other brand motor. Thanks for anyone answering!!!
Just use a brushed set up. Not as ultra slow, but how often is this really necessary? For me personal is cogging and this jump from superslow to slow just annoying. Best brushed motors are from PNracing, you can tune them with stronger magnets, silver-brushes etc. Best bang for buck Injora. Look at "Donalds Neffe", he has an actual test. The expensive brushed motors from Mofo (torque beast) are just average!
@@JanSonnemann thanks. Good points. I honestly didn’t consider going back to brushed. I’m usually just using it in large rock gardens so the transition isn’t too big an issue. I’m also curious on what the heck all the esc parameters do.
Yeah I'm definitely interested to see how it's going to work in the 24s But I have never had luck with that whole glue thing man I've always spun them loose I could never hold a moment glue Uh Putting them under too much pressure I guess
@@Gibsonlife573 did you use tire glue? This one fits really tight and with the glue I think itll be fine. I’ve had a couple come loose over time but honestly I’ve never had luck with the tiny little grub screws (always strip) so I’d just as soon glue and reapply when needed lol
@@philipbrits2984 no the main issue is no one has made another motor mount or transmission case for them. The spot where the motor mounts is just too small. All of the brushless options atm hit the transmission case.
@@Danielxperez14 yeah once it’s set up it’s not that big of a deal. It just drives me nuts during the setup phase. With the app I can watch how the changes affect the truck while driving. Makes it much easier to dial in imo. The Hobbywing has been great so far though!
@@2fmrcyea the reason I’d go with hobbywing is because I’m currently on an injora brushless setup and the esc gives me issues if my dual rate is too high it just resets itself plus it’s half the price of the furitek esc 45 vs 80
@@DoubleADay yeah I’m gonna do more of a deep dive comparison with it soon hopefully. Just wanted to show it fits the ascent with no issue and check it out a bit.
These systems are fairly close in how they perform. Just go with your gut to decide. I have always had a good experience with furitek but the price can be expensive. Hobbywing's competition is great for the hobby
Thanks! I often work double shifts through the winter months so I’m somewhat used to it lol. Definitely going to spend more time with this thing now that I’m rested and play with more settings etc.
@@Casitascrawlers it’s basically the same imo. There are a couple things I like better like adjusting the drag brake on the fly which I’m going to be posting a video on soon!
Got a question for ya. on my trx4m im running the same dumborc tx, meus iso axles, and the meus 8.5kg servo. I cant get full steering angle and im stumped. it maxes out at like 45 deg. if the truck is off i can turn the wheels by hand to their max angle no problem, its not a physical/mechanical issue. ive done the radio calibration where you turn the wheel and hold the trigger to enter learning mode multiple times. dual rate is all the way up. servo specs say it has 180 degree range of motion. im out of ideas. what do you think?
@@DoubleADay they should work just fine. I’m going to do some more testing with it and go through settings a bit more soon. But it has the same plug as all the brushless motors we’ve been using
Looks cool and well built. But man, all the money. And I personal see no reason for crazy weelspeed at a crawler. Escpecially this size. And, as you said, the jump after ultra-slow is allways there in this systhems, even in the ones from Furitek after tuning as much as possible.
I need to see what the mini 16 will fit, seems like it's made for one vehicle, I ordered one and if I can't get it to fit anything else I'll put it my ole pubg uaz essentially its a team associated cr12, just a uaz body
I think everybody needs one of those compasses you know that's one saying that as a human race we have grown out of contact with is how to tell even true north
I cant believe that they ship those without offering pinions which are almost impossible to get and need special tools and knowledge to mount and remove. In the original Hobbywing Video they wrote they ordered their pinions from Mofo. Cant be serious to offer it like that. I am in Europe, ordering from Mofo costs me 50 bucks in shipment and custom, also lots of their stuff like the small pinions are out of stock half of the time.
This is a crawler ESC I don't think it'd be very suitable for a race buggy. Probably better off staying brushed until a designated system is made, I saw one guy put the spectrum system in the micro b but it didn't get any faster. Maybe look at the mofo big block that's what I was thinking.
I don’t have one of there Bluetooth modules unfortunately but they didn’t mention it in their original video on these so I doubt it. Idk for sure though. Sorry
@@leonelmolinajr2 I use this receiver www.ebay.com/itm/403963515691?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=um9whu-pru-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=i7plO3GMQpW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@TheShopMiniRC agreed 👍 I'm glad hobbywing has entered the micro market, but it's hard to beat the furicar app and the already established furitek micro electronics.
They offer Bluetooth but it’s like 80 dollars I bought the new digital programmer for 30 dollars and it allows you to use Bluetooth while it’s plugged into the programmer but I wish they incorporated Bluetooth like Furitek
Just purchased one and the program card. Also left a note saying you were the reason I purchased one today. Maybe they’ll get back with you lol
Your mention of Novak brings back some memories. I used to run one in my Losi JRX2 in the 90s. Thanks for another great video.
@@ciborg86 nice! I had Novak activ8 esc that absolutely ripped in an 1/8 buggy. Loved that thing lol
I think it’s great that they finally jumped on board the minis.
Glad you like it. I ordered them right when I saw they were available. Can't wait. I'm a hobby wing fan boy. Keep up the good work your killing it🎉
Sweet! Another great release for our micros.
Mine is in the mailbox cant wait to get home
My Mini16 is supposed to get here tomorrow. Very excited to get that in my UTB18 and test it against my Crawlmaster V3 with DLUX Stumpy 380.
Awesome! Can't wait for mine to show up.
Would love to see a part 2 of this after you've spent some time tuning it, punch, drag brake, throttle curved for that weird bump, etc.
Not sure if you seen it but I tuned a bit on it. Going to be installing it in another build now I guess lol
@@2fmrc I did thank you! Keep it coming man!
I love me some Hobbywing. Nearly all my 1/10 crawlers have a Fusion in them, my Gorgon rips with a Fusion Pro, and the Xmaxx has a Max6.
I ammm a little disappoint that they didn't solve the transition jump though. Glad to see it's not too much of an issue!
As far as HW's customer service goes... It's hit and miss between myself and my acquaintances.
What would you put in a TRX-4M? Thinking of Hobby Wing or the new Traxxas brushless or something else?
I would like to see it hooked up to several different transmissions and see how it interacts for sure I can't remember how much they wanted for that little motor but it wasn't cheap
Which shock tool do you use for the minis?
Where can I find the right pinion for the motor?
I like the Hobbywing stuff🤙
Hey Matt thanks for the responses on my questions. Forgot to ask, do you know if the Mofo NanoBam 1800 motor compatible with the esc?
@@timothybarnard3407 yes. I haven’t actually ran it with the esc but it will 100% plug straight up and should run well imo
Solid contender
Please do an scx24 on a stock transmission, I'd love to see that. Orrrr, will it mount to a stock scx24 tranny in the rear facing position?
I think the specks said it has 3 different bolt patterns
It has a lot of bolt patterns but it comes without a pinion which is almost impossible to buy at this moment. Mofo RC might have them. Totally useless release without pinions.
It does have the correct bolt spacing for a stock motorplate/trans, but the motor hits the case and you can’t grind it without hitting a gear. The mofo adjustable mount that allows you to slide it to the side should work(mine arrives Wednesday). You will need a new pinion gear as the stock scx is smaller. Seems it fits furitek mounts as well. Or you can get standoffs from Akers engineers to forward mount the motor.
@@snörre23 in their advertisement video someone asked about the pinion and hobbywing commented that they used a brass mofo rc press on pinion.
@@patrickpaul4901nice thanks man
Nice video. Helpful. Thanks.
Thanks for video! How does this compare to the original injora purple viper setup? My ascent is heavy pig, at 1.5lbs. I have lower trans gears and the purple viper brushless setup. I get some cogging when in the big rocks. Trying to decide if I should try a different motor and keep injora esc, or try the newer 2800kv viper motor or some other brand motor. Thanks for anyone answering!!!
Just use a brushed set up. Not as ultra slow, but how often is this really necessary? For me personal is cogging and this jump from superslow to slow just annoying. Best brushed motors are from PNracing, you can tune them with stronger magnets, silver-brushes etc. Best bang for buck Injora. Look at "Donalds Neffe", he has an actual test. The expensive brushed motors from Mofo (torque beast) are just average!
@@JanSonnemann thanks. Good points. I honestly didn’t consider going back to brushed. I’m usually just using it in large rock gardens so the transition isn’t too big an issue. I’m also curious on what the heck all the esc parameters do.
Yeah I'm definitely interested to see how it's going to work in the 24s But I have never had luck with that whole glue thing man I've always spun them loose I could never hold a moment glue Uh Putting them under too much pressure I guess
@@Gibsonlife573 did you use tire glue? This one fits really tight and with the glue I think itll be fine. I’ve had a couple come loose over time but honestly I’ve never had luck with the tiny little grub screws (always strip) so I’d just as soon glue and reapply when needed lol
Does this need a brushless mount like the furitek comes with to install into a scx24?
@@9ballbilliards yes. For the scx24 you need a motor mount like the micro Komodo uses or something and a pinion gear.
@@2fmrc ok I ordered one I was trying to decide which to put it on I may just put it on my ascent then Ty
Thanks for the content. Do you think this will work with the fms fcx24m?
Not directly. We will need some sort of new motor mount and pinion
@@2fmrc is there any brushless system that will drop right in? Maby the injora brushless system for the scx24?
@@philipbrits2984 no the main issue is no one has made another motor mount or transmission case for them. The spot where the motor mounts is just too small. All of the brushless options atm hit the transmission case.
Ill take the app tuning on the Furitek system any day.
It’s just soooo easy!
I only need to tune mine when I set it up, after that I don’t need to. Program card is easy to use and doesn’t need a phone or service
@@Danielxperez14 yeah once it’s set up it’s not that big of a deal. It just drives me nuts during the setup phase. With the app I can watch how the changes affect the truck while driving. Makes it much easier to dial in imo. The Hobbywing has been great so far though!
@@2fmrcyea the reason I’d go with hobbywing is because I’m currently on an injora brushless setup and the esc gives me issues if my dual rate is too high it just resets itself plus it’s half the price of the furitek esc 45 vs 80
@@Danielxperez14 don’t blame ya. It’s a great setup for the price. Haven’t had any issues with mine
Matt, you've hardly messed with the settings yet. Lol
@@DoubleADay yeah I’m gonna do more of a deep dive comparison with it soon hopefully. Just wanted to show it fits the ascent with no issue and check it out a bit.
Matt's tired and fussy. We all get that way especially after a long day
whats the best system for the redcat accent 18? furitek,injora, or hobbywing? i want to upgrade my accent to brushless?
These systems are fairly close in how they perform. Just go with your gut to decide. I have always had a good experience with furitek but the price can be expensive. Hobbywing's competition is great for the hobby
@@DoubleADay thanks
Personally I'm gonna go for the furitek unity, I'm a sucker for 2 in1 motor esc
Would the Esc work with the furitek mini? Looking at the smallest motor for the ascent to maximize performance
@@zaydherrera yeah it should work fine.
Would love to see this hooked up to a fcx18 or fcx24
Great video especially considering you must be shattered after working 15 hours. Man that’s a long shift !
Thanks! I often work double shifts through the winter months so I’m somewhat used to it lol. Definitely going to spend more time with this thing now that I’m rested and play with more settings etc.
@@2fmrcOn days like that, on my drive home, I like to put on songs like Rush: Working Man, or Take this job and shove it, lol
For the price I’d definitely pick one up. How is it compared to the Injora?
@@Casitascrawlers it’s basically the same imo. There are a couple things I like better like adjusting the drag brake on the fly which I’m going to be posting a video on soon!
Can this wp mini be fitted in fms fcx24 power wagon?
I was wondering the same thing. I have the Fcx24 Blazer, and I'm still running the stock system. If this fits, im definitely going to get one.
@@ShawnMoreland317 yeah, furitek stinger brushless combo is expensive
Got a question for ya. on my trx4m im running the same dumborc tx, meus iso axles, and the meus 8.5kg servo. I cant get full steering angle and im stumped. it maxes out at like 45 deg. if the truck is off i can turn the wheels by hand to their max angle no problem, its not a physical/mechanical issue. ive done the radio calibration where you turn the wheel and hold the trigger to enter learning mode multiple times. dual rate is all the way up. servo specs say it has 180 degree range of motion. im out of ideas. what do you think?
the servo itself may not have the full required angle
@@annaharpley1673 The specs from Meus claim 180 degree operating travel angle
Just use a longer servo horn.
The only question I have is how will other motors work with the esc. I'm fairly sure it won't be a problem
@@DoubleADay they should work just fine. I’m going to do some more testing with it and go through settings a bit more soon. But it has the same plug as all the brushless motors we’ve been using
Yup, I'll be able to start testing tomorrow
Sweet 💪
wonder if it will fit the fcx18
Yes it should. Just need a pinion for it
Looks cool and well built. But man, all the money. And I personal see no reason for crazy weelspeed at a crawler. Escpecially this size. And, as you said, the jump after ultra-slow is allways there in this systhems, even in the ones from Furitek after tuning as much as possible.
Hobbywing has it on sale for 74$, sounds like a win even at regular price of 100$
Agreed
Damn Novak was the sh!t back in the day, I know I had one of their ESC in my Rustler with a Trinity speed gem motor. Yes I’m that old 😂😂
@@jameslovasziii6917 haha! I had a Novak activ8 esc that absolutely ripped in a 1/8 buggy I had!
I need to see what the mini 16 will fit, seems like it's made for one vehicle, I ordered one and if I can't get it to fit anything else I'll put it my ole pubg uaz essentially its a team associated cr12, just a uaz body
@@jameswisecarver idk if you have one but I’m gonna use mine in the Redcat impala! It’s a perfect fit!!
Will you be at Rocktober Fun Run?
@@codyjcunningham no I’m actually in Branson that wk unfortunately. Wish I could make it!
I think everybody needs one of those compasses you know that's one saying that as a human race we have grown out of contact with is how to tell even true north
Where's the 24 fusion. good you didn't get lost thanks to the compass
I cant believe that they ship those without offering pinions which are almost impossible to get and need special tools and knowledge to mount and remove. In the original Hobbywing Video they wrote they ordered their pinions from Mofo. Cant be serious to offer it like that. I am in Europe, ordering from Mofo costs me 50 bucks in shipment and custom, also lots of their stuff like the small pinions are out of stock half of the time.
Does the program cars for the 1/10 fusion work on this?
@@studio4fifteen yeah that’s what I used. The #s may not match the chart on the card. Just follow the manual that comes with it like I did.
@@2fmrc makes sense. The one I have came with a 1080 esc I bought. Then the fusion came with a sticker to put over the old label 😂
I wonder if this would fit in that new micro-B.
This is a crawler ESC I don't think it'd be very suitable for a race buggy. Probably better off staying brushed until a designated system is made, I saw one guy put the spectrum system in the micro b but it didn't get any faster. Maybe look at the mofo big block that's what I was thinking.
Does it work with there Bluetooth module?
I don’t have one of there Bluetooth modules unfortunately but they didn’t mention it in their original video on these so I doubt it. Idk for sure though. Sorry
What radio & receiver?
@@leonelmolinajr2 sorry about that. Here ya go!
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@@leonelmolinajr2 I use this receiver
www.ebay.com/itm/403963515691?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=um9whu-pru-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=i7plO3GMQpW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
The tuning card is the way to go. Nobody wants to count beeps. Then again, my wife has also said I'm no good at listening 😅
Bluetooth is the way to go.
@TheShopMiniRC agreed 👍 I'm glad hobbywing has entered the micro market, but it's hard to beat the furicar app and the already established furitek micro electronics.
They offer Bluetooth but it’s like 80 dollars I bought the new digital programmer for 30 dollars and it allows you to use Bluetooth while it’s plugged into the programmer but I wish they incorporated Bluetooth like Furitek
@@shawnrichardson118 yeah it should just be included. We should be long past the days of paying extra for any tuning on these escs imo
I'm pretty sure it's TH-cam but it's like your video skipping on a track
Get the hobbywing card if you don't have 1
Those scrubbed tires has the Ascent stuck to the rocks.