How To Use A Buttpack
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2020
- It is easy to learn how to use a buttpack if you merely think about possibilities and what you may need and when. Keep it light, keep it simple.
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In my active duty days (60 years ago), the butt pack was intended for carrying a poncho, a disassembled C-ration and a compress bandage. Since we were mechanized infantry, I usually left my butt pack in my duffle bag, stowed in whatever vehicle we were traveling in.
Extra socks and bug repellent are also a must in my gear.
@ Pierce Lawson. This has what to do with this video or post?
Going hiking?
The buttpack is a PERFECT place for deet, foot powder and moleskin.
I carried my poncho and M-65 liner in there as well.
At least one spare pair of socks, too.
3:39 Soldiers in Norway especially in the 80s 90s were issued an Enkeltmannspakke (One man package) which was a compression bandage, most soldiers carried it in their left breast pocket, if it was needed to be used by a fellow soldier on you if needed.
memories,,,back in the day (80's - 90's) I kept a pair of socks, a t-shirt, foot powder, one poncho, and a broken down component of an mre.....in the winter I would throw in the field jacket liner. worked great in the butt pack I didnt have to mess around as much with the ruck sack.
... How did you fit all that in there? I can barely fit a poncho.
MRE, more commonly referred to as the bag nasty.
A buddy said that they'd use the newer ones as impromptu medic bags, while in Iraq. They loaded up a couple extra pressure dressings and tourniquets in a bag and ideally there'd be a bag in each truck of a convoy.
I reserve my bum bag (excuse me, "universal rear pouch") for my sleep system. I'm exclusively optimized for jungle conditions, so that means I won't be sleeping on the ground. A standard two-man hootchie, nylon hammock rating 150kg and 50m hootchie cord (rating Para 750). This keeps the bum bag compact, light and flexible and fits comfortably between my two main canteens. It is secured with ordinary ALICE clips in the usual manner.
My patrol pack is just as simple. It is a nylon 25L single pocket pouch that secures neatly in the ALICE belt grommet between the harness hooks using its own identical harness. The shoulder straps are mounted with press studs through the compass pouch strap and metal loop. They are then further secured to the harness shoulder pads with hootchie cord ties to prevent unwanted movement. This creates a very secure and lightweight system with enough storage for up to 48 hours.
Electrical tape never would stay in place for me. Before narrow duct tape was available I just snipped duct tape one inch wide and rolled a few feet around a Bic lighter. I always carried flat black nail polish. You could patch a tent, knock down a shiny spot on your weapon or gear and put it over your cut. I am a packrat. Carried a lot of stuff then, still carry a lot of stuff today.
I generally carry what I need and a little extra but never learned this trick lol, gonna remember this one’
I suspect, like most ppl, you bought electrical tape from a hardware store or kmart etc. It's not the case now but up to 15yr ago if you went to an electrical wholesaler you could get Bear electrical tape it was damn good
As a former 11B. Poncho,socks,C-Rats, maybe a poncho liner or a sleep shirt. When NBC was a thing, rain gear and rubber boots. Not a lot of extra stuff. If you hump an M67 or a M60 weight matters. Also spare battery’s, TA1’s The Chance to dump your ruck or butt pack is something to celebrate!!!
I love your videos how you do a detailed loadout gear options etc video now I'm putting together a mix molle alice gear rig useing a condor h harness with battle belt then adding just a molle panel to the suspenders adding quick connect buckles then adding alice pouches to the panel and belt now the suspenders have a molle panel on the middle shoulder section I was thinking of adding a bladder to that then 2 of my m56 field bags to the bladders molle then another on my belt keeping my kit compact what do you think ? Or would a alice pack be better for gear instead of the 2 field bags for shelter messkit headlamp xtra socks batteries ammo etc would like to hear your thoughts or advice thank you
just a note to fellow preppers,
These kind of Military carrying systems are ment for men that march in numbers and not for individuals.
Military Survival in general is not ment for preppers cause it relies that you are a hour walk away from a fully fitted military base with 200 men ready to help you.
You want to become a Snail. Carry a 3 day or even a 7 day pack on your back/body.
Most of these civilians are not suitable to carry 90 pound ruck lol
For airsoft, a buttpack is great for storing things such as a lunchbox or a bag of chips in case you get hungry lol.
I use one for my poncho and extra batteries while playing airsoft.
Though recently I've been using an old Gas Mask bag for the poncho.
The butt pack webbing is a good idea and I always wear one with a small day pack plus I add to my webbing gear like for instance an iMac kit and other things also, but please keep up the good work.
Mine has 2 pairs of socks in plastic baggies with a Vietnam era mess Kit with some goodies including a water filter.
Mine has the Vietnam era messkit as well. Essential
Canteen cup and spoon. Think Lite!
I leave my messkit in my ruck and just hump a broken down bag nasty in the butt pack. Plus, luckiest and chewy's stuffed in your pockets help, too.
MY butt pack is a Vietnam era M-61, I guess the procedures for loading and use of my butt pack would be the same as the LC-2/ ALICE Butt Pack. Rather than stuffing the ponch into the butt pack I always kept mine lashed to the bottom of the M-56 or M-61 Field Pack I was issued before the Guard units I was a part of were issued Medium ALICE PACKs with Frames. My current LBE has the M-61 Field Pack (butt pack) on the belt.
The sleeping roll carrier works wonders to keep the poncho rolled up too.
Ounces = pounds yall, very important.
And mmm Mmm! that Chicken Noodle with Vegetables is one of the good ones.
Chilemac for the win!
Triangular bandages are for slings & snugging up splints. That’s all they’re really good for. Want something sterile for wounds(which triangles are not.)
Combat gauze or an Israeli pressure bandage are good.
Mt man here good vid 👍👍
Where to find one too. Ive had a hella time finding alice od, and lbv in woodland butt packs.
is that genuine military issued waist pack attached to the belt in your video ? where can I get something like that. ? ?
Its genuine. Evay is a good source for a buttpack or a surplus store
@@doitriteak I plan on attaching a Buttpack filled with additional/extra days worth of Clothing & if necessary Food on2 bottom MOLLE/PALS webbing of my OD (Olive Drab) Green Medium Sized 3 Day MOLLE Pack underneath Front Pockets therefore turning my OD (Olive Drab) Green Medium Sized 3 Day MOLLE Pack in2 more of a Urban Wilderness Hybrid Pack!
Would you consider the 200 round saw pouch a viable alternative to the field pack?
Uh, maybe 2 would have enough space, but the butt pack would be a better option as a convertible pack
Sometimes you gotta work with what ya got, Id uprade when i could but if its what you have you can widdle down to the essential bare neccassity, try it out you ll know pretty quick what your gonna do different
I use the 200 round SAW pouch for shotgun shells. Holds roughly 75, should you need that many.
The PRC 25/77 radio pack had two side straps with hooks to attach to the belt. There were also two hooks for the Buttpack.
There were Vietnamese packs used. I've seen scrounged x frame prototypes. Something like the smalker daypacks. One could attach two buttacks to the harness or mount one pack higher. In addition the sleeping bag " spaghetti" straps allowed carry. Those straps attached to the cloth los or D rings on front of the harness . There was a question about using one set of straps for pack and harness since they are about the same. My guess is prototypes with the main pack or equipment carried higher. The radio pack might also have been modified. But the answer still is the Buttpack on the side or slung. To be dropped along with main pack like quick release. Saw too many ftx movements to contact and assaults made up mountains under full load. One leaves a guard behind as acls have a slot for names.
The design was for packed to be dropped at a patrol base. The harness and Buttpack was then used for three days. That's three C Rations not 9.
Thank you ... good video ... I'm organizing my own belt system to include a butt pack however ... how do you access the "butt" pack easily ? ... it seems you have to remove the entire belt/shoulder strap system in order to access anything in side it ... unless you have a buddy along with you to reach in for it... I tend to hike alone so I wonder if it's worth it to have the butt pack on my belt system ...
Yeah it is a pain to access. But I consider it a backup pack. You could look into the more modern ones that zip for easier access
We used our butt packs for E&E, several canvas first aids on a belt for extra gear.
How is your finger doing?
I always just used it for my woobie and maybe a mre. Everything else was in my Alice pack or assault pack.
Cut off the metal buckles and replace with fastex!
Kinda noisy at night
Skip the electrical tape buy a one inch sized duct tape .. then slide the small roll over the front end of one of your harness straps so it’s accessible
Wat kind of poncho is that?
Just and old style poncho
I meant to ask what brand since i carry a buttpack on my body to class using a canteensling and wanna add it to sorta fill out da kit.
It is just a surplus one
oh god that cut is nasty
thats why I wear gloves so my delicate hands stay protected :D
... or you could just buy a small thing of super glue and keep it in the compass kit instead. The medics can deal with having to open the wound later.
you can not make compression with the glue and thus you can't prevent or slow internal bleeding.
other point those glues are toxic for your body. great for a simple cut on a finger but not enough for a larger wound
That's why you need to invest in an IFAK or make up your own trauma kit. Bear Independent/Refuge Medical has a damn good IFAK they make themselves.
OUCH!!
Check on yo people
I personally think chemlights are useless why take that when you could take a small maglight plus the chemlights are single use.
Lightweight and impervious to elements. Different colors do different things. Plus an IR light works wonders at night. But you gotta have experience with using them to know.
marking position for anyone/everyone that comes later (be it field toilet (we did that on last airsoft multiday match), tent site or any other area (red for dangerous/hazzardous area, green for safe path, etc...)) .and yeah, IR work wonders with proper NV equipment :D.
@@ApocGuy yeah in the 506th back in 90s a chemlite was always just a beacon.. The IR ones we used to just mark a route so squad leaders with NVGs could see where to turn at forks in the paths.. Pathfinders also used them to lay out LZs
No doubt, an individual who's never been no more than a door dash away from home and never done anytime outdoors.
Yes you would put on over your gear lug nut
Gee, I wonder how those poor VN GIs got by having their poncho/bedroll on the bottom outside of the buttpack? What's this "mission" bs? Back in the 80s, the buttpack was called a three day pack.
They had issues with not enough gear. Buttpacks were mostly ditched by 67 for the lightweight rucksack or captured packs.
@@micahfrye8885 when the US Army had started and barely were issuing out M67 gear in limited quantities and in incomplete sets, the M67 field pack was not issued because the Army was being issued the Lightweight Rucksack which was in the way of the field pack/buttpack. Though the buttpack is meant to hold items that cannot fill up a lightweight rucksack but could never be carried on your person in terms of the pockets of your own clothing such your cargo pockets
Well you could attach a LAW rocket under the butt pack where the Poncho would go.
The poncho and poncho liner attached to the bottom of the butt back for quick access. The bed roll (sleeping bag, mat, groundsheet/shelter half) had a removable carrier that attached to the suspenders on the upper back. Over all, the idea was to pack light and mobile with the existence load (clothing, hygiene gear, and sleep gear, emergency rations) carried in the existence load and the sustainment load carried by the logistics trains with daily/ twice a day resupply. In addition, storred in the units logistics trains/ storage points would be the soldiers duffel bag with the rest of their clothing that could be accessed as needed.
Army SOP? You claimed to be a Marine in your other videos.
He did?
Oop 🤭
So, some guys reenlist in a different branch for a second enlistment.
My father did.
I prefer calling it a waist pack
"I've been training with one" hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Your canteen covers are wrong, that design was post Vietnam. The horizontal stitched line is the give away
Umm, this isn't for reenacting, champ. This is real world militia/ survivalist? Okay?
Good. Carry on.
Where are you getting this? Everything is wrong, buttpack, belt, suspenders, ammo pouches, everything is wrong for it
This isn't reenactments. This is using old stuff and putting it together to work the best way possible
@@doitriteak LC-2 ALICE gear is what I run with. Can't afford anything else. Works for me.
And? All that gear is post vietnam anyways, and it's not even for reenacting so what's the big deal