everyone that is complaining about zoning... notice that at the last major event (CEO) there were 0 zoning characters in the final 4... What does this tell you? I feel like everyone who says this were the same kids in MKX spamming unsafe 50/50 combos. literally live and die by the 50/50. Injustice 2 is not MKX this game is much more about timing, reads, reactions, GAME KNOWLEDGE (i.e. you go to practice and learn how to counter what is oppressing you instead of just learning a few strings and combos and complaining when they dont work), and footsies. It is a patient fighting game, and who ever controls the pace is winning the match.
Euphoria Official Tell them bro. Sure Its hard and boring to play vs hardcore zoner. But if you have practice and game knowledge then you can beat him easily. Also its good to know how to play other characters, not just 1, so you can counterpick. Also , trying to zone someone who is rly good isnt that ez. In the video it can look like ez way to win , but MAN ... WhiteBoi is champ with Scarecrow. Im not a zoner but vs WhiteBoi I would do anything to keep him fullscreen. Coz once he have you in the corner than you are Done.
That may be true at pro lvl, but from Semi Pro downwards, you don't want to play ranked and 19 out 20 games duck and move 1 cm all game just to get hit and sent full screen. It's so frustrating and retarded. And understand that all these zoners are good up close as well, you aren't really getting close to them and dominating them guaranteed after that. This is the stupid part, because they have let's say 80% of what a rushdown char has, and the zoning on top of that, you try to get in inch by inch, probably getting hit a couple of times in the process only to have to start the real work once you ARE in.
And this is coming from someone who mained Deadshot at launch, only after switching to Red Hood, who actually has some decent answers to zoning and it still feels like a pain in the ass.
Euphoria Official The gear for one doesn't have an answer for zoning for like half the characters. Second, it takes a lot of time and luck to get ablities in general. Nevermind the ones you want.
Who do people complain about zoning so much? Green Arrow uses arrows to fight with. In terms if lore he will "zone" and same goes for Deadshot. You just have to be patient. Once you get close dont let him get away. This is not mkx where rushdown is the best
Damisi Heckstall are you really going to put lore into the reasoning of zoning? then flash should be punch Harley Quinn to death in milliseconds. superman can kill almost every person on the roster with one hit. lore is not the reason why they are like that.
burntwhal3 I mean Thu heck you want green ARROW to do not shoot arrows, he is just saying some things are iconic with the characters. the couldn't have instant kills in the game and you already know why. So yeah lore is a part of the reason for zoning.
good reads by vendetta, but still shouldn't have zoned whiteboi like that the whole game, practically "zoning" from the beginning is spamming, it's sad whiteboi was about to bring it back and had to lose to vendetta, I'd be salty if I was whiteboi
See, y'all might be mad about zoning, but Whiteboi eventually found his footing and starting getting in. I'm pissed that at the end, he teleported the fire arrow, but teleport sucks and he still got punished for it
Zoning is extremely unpleasant to watch, I understand that, and I share that with most who watched it, but its a completely valid technique, please don't insult anyone who does it (unless it's a deadshot player lol)
Rome NZ There's a difference between spamming arrows and using the occasional arrow in a combo. I only saw like 4 combos that Green Arrow did the whole set.
@@demonwolf570 but it's green ARROW lol you really expect him to use "occasional" arrows? That's like saying the flash can only "occasionally" run and punch. It's the way the character is meant to be played. This also the best way to play this match up. Scarecrow can't deal with zoning well so of course arrow is going to take advantage of the weakness. Arrow didn't need to go in to win. If he did, he probably would of been at the disadvantage. That's the point of a tournament, right? To win? It takes skill to effectively zone with arrow, it's not "spam."
@@bmxfreak1991 It doesn't take skill to wait and use 3 different ways to shoot an arrow at an opponent who has no way to counter a move. That's exploiting a game flaw. As for spam. What do you call doing the same special move like 5 times in a row before doing one combo? You can kid yourself into thinking zoning takes skill but that's not gonna change that it's a cheap way of fighting against people. It's also boring. No one likes to watch someone use mostly one special and 1 combo most of the game. Why do you think there are no popular videos of zoning montages outside of rage videos.
I've played as Green Arrow day 1 Injustice, and not once have I played like that bitch ass spammer. I love to get in and do some nice strings and mixups with ice and electric. Not once have I used fire arrows, they are cheap, and I refuse to play like that
Supergirl's teleport isn't that bad to deal with. It even has a sound cue and everything lol just hold back and not down back in case of the overhead, block and punish 👍
Just going to go ahead and say it. You should not be able to fucking build meter by zoning and not hitting period. Anyone that thinks that zoners being able to build meter just for shooting not even hitting and being blocked just shooting is either a zoner or not on planet earth. This needs to be addressed for IJ3.
Green arrow don’t even do a lot of damage n y’all never saw him as a threat before but now y’all do n think he needs a nerf there are non zoning characters that need a nerf but are we do we care no we just adapt everyone doesn’t have to fight the same zoning is allowed either adapt or don’t play
i play crow for 12-15 hrs every day since release. my crow is better and i'm NOT the #1 crow. whiteboi sure has a nice scarecrow, but he doesent use him as he is meaned to be used. He doesent loop traumatise at all. he uses it waaaaay to poorly. pretty sure i could beat whiteboi in a scarecrow mirror. to give the not beleevers a proove - uploaded the best and scariest Scarecrow combo tribute video ever made until today. I'm pretty sure about that, because i just see casual crow vids everywhere. If there is someone with a better combo video, msg me the link. if thats the case i will change my mind. I hope one day i will see someone playing scarecrow to the fullest.
yeah your good with your flashy practice combos and good ranked play and ive picked up some moves from you but what do you think you're accomplishing by going to every whiteboi video and commenting that you're the better crow but won't go into tournament play
irr3 is on t1Lt have you even tried going out to challenge tournament players? Bet they would be happy to fight you, could even lead you to getting sponsored.
Why talk bad about green arrow when white boi is the one that can't counter the zoning? That's lack of skill. I'm sure he's gonna train more with countering zoning and he's gonna do better against it in the future but now? Don't knock green arrow for playing smart
Puggerson Exactly. Shooting arrows doesn't take any skill. I've seen good green arrows chain their arrow effects into combos so that isn't all he can do.
My green arrow honestly seems better also. He missed some things and even missed a combo when he tried back 3 and ended up in front of him. At his level he shouldn't be making simple mistakes like that.
Green arrow is the only projectile spam character that’s fun to watch and actually takes some skill
Green arrow is like the only acceptable character that can zone and still be fun to watch
Jason Talbott Harley is kinda boring to watch when she zones.
Dino Brothers Green Latern?
Doctor Fate too. You have to be smart about it, it actually takes some strategy and skill.
Deadshot?
Also dr fate
haha evrybody is complaining about zoning.... zoning a player like whiteboi wont be as easy as it looks.... well played vendetta
Whiteboi>vendetta
everyone that is complaining about zoning... notice that at the last major event (CEO) there were 0 zoning characters in the final 4... What does this tell you? I feel like everyone who says this were the same kids in MKX spamming unsafe 50/50 combos. literally live and die by the 50/50. Injustice 2 is not MKX this game is much more about timing, reads, reactions, GAME KNOWLEDGE (i.e. you go to practice and learn how to counter what is oppressing you instead of just learning a few strings and combos and complaining when they dont work), and footsies. It is a patient fighting game, and who ever controls the pace is winning the match.
Euphoria Official Tell them bro. Sure Its hard and boring to play vs hardcore zoner. But if you have practice and game knowledge then you can beat him easily. Also its good to know how to play other characters, not just 1, so you can counterpick. Also , trying to zone someone who is rly good isnt that ez. In the video it can look like ez way to win , but MAN ... WhiteBoi is champ with Scarecrow. Im not a zoner but vs WhiteBoi I would do anything to keep him fullscreen. Coz once he have you in the corner than you are Done.
That may be true at pro lvl, but from Semi Pro downwards, you don't want to play ranked and 19 out 20 games duck and move 1 cm all game just to get hit and sent full screen. It's so frustrating and retarded. And understand that all these zoners are good up close as well, you aren't really getting close to them and dominating them guaranteed after that. This is the stupid part, because they have let's say 80% of what a rushdown char has, and the zoning on top of that, you try to get in inch by inch, probably getting hit a couple of times in the process only to have to start the real work once you ARE in.
And this is coming from someone who mained Deadshot at launch, only after switching to Red Hood, who actually has some decent answers to zoning and it still feels like a pain in the ass.
I see what you are saying. But that is why they put gear into for casuals who dont want to deal some stuff in this game.
Euphoria Official The gear for one doesn't have an answer for zoning for like half the characters. Second, it takes a lot of time and luck to get ablities in general. Nevermind the ones you want.
you have to play Scarecrows weaknesses--zoning. smart move vendetta
Fgh
He zoned the fuck out of him. Watching this pissed me off. I can only imagine how mad whiteboi was 😭💀
Real smart playing by Vendetta, I found it really interesting, not sure how anyone could say zoning is always boring to watch
Aqua dzn Nothing else is being done by his part except shooting arrows with an occasional combo.
zone...zone and zone some more.
Who do people complain about zoning so much? Green Arrow uses arrows to fight with. In terms if lore he will "zone" and same goes for Deadshot. You just have to be patient. Once you get close dont let him get away. This is not mkx where rushdown is the best
Damisi Heckstall are you really going to put lore into the reasoning of zoning? then flash should be punch Harley Quinn to death in milliseconds. superman can kill almost every person on the roster with one hit. lore is not the reason why they are like that.
burntwhal3 I mean Thu heck you want green ARROW to do not shoot arrows, he is just saying some things are iconic with the characters. the couldn't have instant kills in the game and you already know why. So yeah lore is a part of the reason for zoning.
Dean Jean Thank you so much couldn't have said it better myself. And I was actually trying lol
Damisi Heckstall lol
As a scarecrow main I used to have big problems against a solid green arrow but I figured out what to do now
good reads by vendetta, but still shouldn't have zoned whiteboi like that the whole game, practically "zoning" from the beginning is spamming, it's sad whiteboi was about to bring it back and had to lose to vendetta, I'd be salty if I was whiteboi
this is so good i couldnt get away without clicking that sub button
Green Arrow is one of the only zoning characters I respect.
See, y'all might be mad about zoning, but Whiteboi eventually found his footing and starting getting in. I'm pissed that at the end, he teleported the fire arrow, but teleport sucks and he still got punished for it
why didn't he scarecrow port to avoid the zoning.
BrianOstas because the recovery is slow and he'd get punished
Zoning is extremely unpleasant to watch, I understand that, and I share that with most who watched it, but its a completely valid technique, please don't insult anyone who does it (unless it's a deadshot player lol)
All fighting styles are valid. Period.
LordHollow If shooting arrows nonstop is considered "fighting" then a robbery is just an exchange of goods.
Demonwolf570 what do you expect green ARROW to do not shoot arrows?
Rome NZ There's a difference between spamming arrows and using the occasional arrow in a combo. I only saw like 4 combos that Green Arrow did the whole set.
@@demonwolf570 but it's green ARROW lol you really expect him to use "occasional" arrows? That's like saying the flash can only "occasionally" run and punch. It's the way the character is meant to be played. This also the best way to play this match up. Scarecrow can't deal with zoning well so of course arrow is going to take advantage of the weakness. Arrow didn't need to go in to win. If he did, he probably would of been at the disadvantage. That's the point of a tournament, right? To win? It takes skill to effectively zone with arrow, it's not "spam."
@@bmxfreak1991 It doesn't take skill to wait and use 3 different ways to shoot an arrow at an opponent who has no way to counter a move. That's exploiting a game flaw. As for spam. What do you call doing the same special move like 5 times in a row before doing one combo? You can kid yourself into thinking zoning takes skill but that's not gonna change that it's a cheap way of fighting against people. It's also boring. No one likes to watch someone use mostly one special and 1 combo most of the game. Why do you think there are no popular videos of zoning montages outside of rage videos.
I've played as Green Arrow day 1 Injustice, and not once have I played like that bitch ass spammer. I love to get in and do some nice strings and mixups with ice and electric. Not once have I used fire arrows, they are cheap, and I refuse to play like that
If you don't utilize his best tools you're just an idiot
Good luck beating good players like Robin, Harley or Red Hood.
kung jin style on green arrow I've noticed same on catwoman on mileena , anyone notice that?
I was thinking that last week, i didnt play GA at all in injustice 1 but his 1,1,1 string is identical to kung jin's staff string.
spam is cancer to Injustice.
It takes skill to do what vendetta did.
TRT jeff Only the combos he did when Scarecrow actually got close. It doesn't take skill to shoot arrows nonstop.
i hate playing against green arrow, supergirl, and deadshot
Paris Smith how bout wonderwoman?
Paris Smith FUCK supergirl almost always standing back and spamming lasers and teleport
Mike Rojas Supergirls are still doing that today.
Supergirl's teleport isn't that bad to deal with. It even has a sound cue and everything lol just hold back and not down back in case of the overhead, block and punish 👍
I didn't even know VSGC had injustice tourneys, I thought they only did smash and pokken
Just going to go ahead and say it. You should not be able to fucking build meter by zoning and not hitting period. Anyone that thinks that zoners being able to build meter just for shooting not even hitting and being blocked just shooting is either a zoner or not on planet earth. This needs to be addressed for IJ3.
Green arrow new Deadshot confirmed
Zeref HD lol 😂
Now everyone green arrow is overpowered lol
Whiteboy won, vendetta is annoying with the zoning that was so boring and irritating
This game is annoying from the amount of zoners it kills the whole combat feel
Green arrow don’t even do a lot of damage n y’all never saw him as a threat before but now y’all do n think he needs a nerf there are non zoning characters that need a nerf but are we do we care no we just adapt everyone doesn’t have to fight the same zoning is allowed either adapt or don’t play
Is this call of duty or a fighting game hmmm.?
Literally zero respect for this guy playing green arrow lol didn’t land one combo just zoned the whole time. What a bum
other then the fact that this match up is HORRIBLE for scarecrow, nice green arrow
Wow vendetta choked 🤦🏾♂️
tell o port
Wow 1 GA i saw.
i play crow for 12-15 hrs every day since release. my crow is better and i'm NOT the #1 crow.
whiteboi sure has a nice scarecrow, but he doesent use him as he is meaned to be used. He doesent loop traumatise at all.
he uses it waaaaay to poorly. pretty sure i could beat whiteboi in a scarecrow mirror. to give the not beleevers a proove - uploaded the best and scariest Scarecrow combo tribute video ever made until today. I'm pretty sure about that, because i just see casual crow vids everywhere. If there is someone with a better combo video, msg me the link. if thats the case i will change my mind. I hope one day i will see someone playing scarecrow to the fullest.
irr3 is on t1Lt Damn you are real sir !!!! You have a very strong scarecrow!
yeah your good with your flashy practice combos and good ranked play and ive picked up some moves from you but what do you think you're accomplishing by going to every whiteboi video and commenting that you're the better crow but won't go into tournament play
Kevin Lyons i gained a lot of subscribers. first of all i'm still a youtuber :)
irr3 is on t1Lt have you even tried going out to challenge tournament players? Bet they would be happy to fight you, could even lead you to getting sponsored.
You suck stop spamming videos comments with ur bullshits
vendetta smart
So the top injustice 2 player got 3-0'd This game needs balancing.
? It was 3 2
thezquad and hes not the top player
Why talk bad about green arrow when white boi is the one that can't counter the zoning? That's lack of skill. I'm sure he's gonna train more with countering zoning and he's gonna do better against it in the future but now? Don't knock green arrow for playing smart
Playing smart AKA spamming like a bitch.
At some points he did go in but as soom as he starta losing he goes back to "zoning"
Puggerson Exactly. Shooting arrows doesn't take any skill. I've seen good green arrows chain their arrow effects into combos so that isn't all he can do.
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Injustice 2 is so boring. The hell did I just watch. Zoning is just so boring to watch
My green arrow is 10x better this is a shame
Yet you've never made it to top 32 in any major tournament lol.
Fight mine then?
hahahaha burnnn
My green arrow honestly seems better also. He missed some things and even missed a combo when he tried back 3 and ended up in front of him. At his level he shouldn't be making simple mistakes like that.