I dont understand all the negativity in the comments section. It's literally just a surprisingly pleasant safety video for a miniature railroad. There's literally nothing to be negative or mean about, and yet people are picking on anything they can. "Too many rules, everybody looks fat, that 10 year old shouldnt be holding a safety flag..." Do you even hear yourself? The hell crawled up your butt to make you go out of your way to say something mean here? Is your life so devoid of happiness that you HAVE to say something crummy on a perfectly innocent video? This isnt even controversial in any way! Its a SAFETY VIDEO.
some are just chronic complainers that screwed up their own lives they feel better screwing up perfection for others. this place is awesome and the safety concerns merely attempt to ensure mutual safety for everyone. and as far as kids holding flags... i guess there will always be those that DON’T pay any attention to safety instructions and are the first to complain something isnt their fault when they screw up perfection. the narrator said, the conductor is responsible for alerting on coming trains of an issue up head and MAY instruct a passenger to alert on coming trains if the Engineer requires their assistance.. OMgosh.. can’t stand unhappy miserable people who refuse to better their lives to share in happiness.. this is a family orientated place and nothing more pleasant then getting younger generations off their iphones, Xbox’s Play Stations, tablets, and Androids and out getting involved in a hobby.. instead of mischief and crime.
It would be a dream to visit this place someday. Down in Australia, especially where I am located we don't have anything near this big! It's still very fun, but being able to run trains for hours and still be seeing new things must be an incredible experience!
Put TM on your Bucket List. We have several Aussie Members at TM. A few make the trip every year. Several came during the June Triennial Event this year, and three that I know about are coming in about two weeks.
At first I thought this was super childish and stupid.... but then I stopped a moment and realized how much work went into this facility and the trains they run there. Now I want to go there and look at some of these trains in great detail.
1. Good luck being able to afford it 2. Good luck meeting safety requirements. If the property doesn't have a permanent residence on it, it gets classified as an amusement park because of extremely stupid wording in the relevant legislation.
@@LanceWinslow I am from india. I am interested. I have nice workshop. I want this facility in india and iln position to invest. My hobby is 7 1/4 " steam loco making. My whatsapp no +919871411226
I've never even heard of Train Mountain, but after seeing this -extremely- weird video, I'm honestly considering seeing it. Great video work. Sometimes, the strangest videos get you the most promotion!
Very cool! Seems more serious than just a hobby however. I think it would be cool to see one of these railroads actually be productively functional such as on a farm, camp ground, resort campus, or amusement park... ie actually transporting goods, materials, and passengers to a destination.
People actually do this as well. I don't have links handy, but I know some have websites. Plenty of that as well as hobby railways that are ran by enthusiasts like this one. Also, all that trackage needs to be maintained, so the track kind of makes for "real" work.
It isn't really "the worlds largest hobby railroad," that is a mistake in the video title. It is presently being updated to, "The Worlds Longest Miniature Railroad," which is how Train Mountain is listed in Guinness World Records. The mission is that of railroad education, where visitors can learn how railroads operate by seeing and doing it in miniature. The Train Mountain CTC ("Central Train Control") system uses the same data stream and displays as that used by the full size Class 1 railroads. During the Operations Meet, our miniature trains are dispatched and move freight and passengers the same as full size railroads. This is not only a lot of fun, but is very educational. After all, train enthusiasts can play with miniature trains, but the full size railroads just won't let us play with the big trains.
Wow! What an awesome setup. I am blown away by the detailed construction on the rolling stock and engines. I especially loved the Pennsy GG 1. One of my favorite old engines.
@@Caderic Train mountain is 7.5" gauge, typically 1.5:12 scale (1.5 inches = 1 foot), or 1/8th size. Thats approx 10 times the size of HO, which is 1/87th real size. Sometimes 7.5" is modeled as narrow gauge, which makes them up to twice as large or 1/4 scale (3:12)
Real shame about the propane only steam trains :( Other than that, the place looks amazing. Might have to let dad know when he goes to the states visiting all the American steam trains lol.
I guess it's about soot and embers. Which would be valid reasons to ban coal or wood fired steamers. But I don't really see a reason to ban oil, petrol or ethanol fired steamers. Hell it might even be an EPA thing and way beyond their control.
@@fermitupoupon1754 I don't think it's an EPA thing, I heard that the property owners were the ones to add this rule. Maybe they didn't like the smell?
Great video and tutorial of this amazing facility! I'd love to see this place in person but being so far away would probably never happen. Thanks for sharing this video with us along with your PRICELESS time and effort! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware USA
There are many places like this in both Austria and Australia (not sure which one you were referring to), where people come together to run their trains. Here's a list of just some of the places in Austalia. www.ameng.com.au/australian_model_engineering_clubs_and_societies.htm
Nice job with the new video. As a former Class I conductor and engineer, I'm glad you changed the rule about solid red signals from "proceed at your own risk" to "absolute stop", like a prototype railroad (hopefully with a procedure for some kind of dispatcher to grant permission past under unusual circumstances - like a malfunctioning signal). If you have any "intermediate" or "automatic" signals, do you put number plates on them to differentiate them from absolutes? If not maybe you should consider doing so - might avoid any confusion. I'm guessing your orientation presentation for visiting operators goes into far more detail. If you don't already, you might want to give some kind of simple "rules test" to everyone before the beginning of the season or meet, just to refresh memories, and/or reinforce the most important things to remember. Wish I could come to the Triennial sometime.
Number plate rule confuses too many people. We don't have number plates. All intermediate signals display flashing red as most restrictive indication instead.
I can appreciate that, since most people in the hobby have not been immersed in railroad culture, but only know it as a hobby. I went back and looked at your on-line rule book again. It appears to have undergone significant revisions in the past few months. It looks like you have had input from at least a few active and/or former railroaders in creating your revised operating rules. I would suggest that a need still exists to address the "unusual occurrence" of a signal that malfunctions or "goes dark". Prototype railroad rules would call for a dark signal to be treated as a "signal displaying it's most restrictive aspect". In your case, that would now be "stop", with no alternative permission to proceed established. I'm guessing you might have an unwritten solution for that occurrence, but I did not see one in your published signal rules. I realize that with all of your extensive prep work for a meet that you probably won't have any signal malfunctions, but it could happen, and there should be something in writing to deal with the issue, especially given the distances from the operations center you have for the most remote parts of the line. It could be something like having a crew member of the train at a dark signal calling either on the radio or cell phone to the dispatcher for verbal permission past the signal at restricted speed until they come to a signal that is working. On your single-track, bi-directional line, the dispatcher would also have to know if their is any opposing traffic as well. Perhaps requiring the train at the dark signal to wait the length of time one would expect it would take for an opposing train to reach them from the next signal ahead. There are such waiting time requirements in prototype rules, often for time-lock switches off of a main track. The rules are there to try and prevent things like head-on, or rear-end collisions, and your rules are much more extensive than many live steam tracks I've seen before, which is a good thing. Perhaps this is a non-issue. I don't know. I just think this is a gap you should look at. Safety first, and keep the wheels on the bottom!
You are probably correct, except that in 31 years these simple rules have worked. Also in the entire 20 plus miles of mainline less than a mile needs to be signaled. Our 'rule book' is a single sided sheet of paper. Pretty simple and pretty safe. Russ
Someones “ex-wife” said: The only difference between man and boys is the price of their toys. Nevertheless guys - this is increadible - absolutely amazing. Love and great respect from Germany. Keep on going!
The concept is really mind numbing! Impeccable staging to begin this operation.. This is a very healthy mind at work.. Thanks for that... In this world.
I didn't know such a magnificent place😍 yesterday (Dec. 19, 2020), it was recommended to me by a friend 👍 Someday, without a doubt, I would like to be there, greetings from Mexico👋
I so wanted to attend this year. I just turned 75 yrs. old, and figured it might be my last time to drive across country to Train Mountain. BUT, I've built, own and run regularly, a 'coal burning locomotive'. Unfortunately, coal, wood and oil burning locomotives have been 'BANNED', from 'RUNNING' at Train Mountain. Lucky for me, I've been invited to run my locomotive at MANY other facilities from the East Coast to the West Coast. AND any number of tracks in between. I participated at TM in 2012 and 2015. BUT, if I can't run my engine there, then there is now logical reason for me to travel 3200 miles, one way, to get there.
I wonder if the rule for potential spark-producing engines is in place now because too many people no longer take proper care. Maybe they now have to draw the line at the word NO. It's a shame, of course.
was laughing at this first, but once looking at the Google earth pictures of this massive model- train- facility it makes sense to have a safety video. This must be a dream for people who own these large scale train sets.
12:35 unless in the absolutely unlikely situation occurs where it gets cold enough to freeze them solid. (Given it's in a more hotter environment it's unlikely) That is the only exception since they don't move when they freeze
NIce! Never heard about "Train Mountain" before. I think the people will have a lot of fun there. If i have the chance to come to the States, i will visit this place. Greetings from the Black Forrest in Germay.
Mr Watson I want to come to this years triennial from Georgia but I won’t be bringing an engine.I want to come and railfan if I can but also ride if possible.Would it be rude if I were to ask to ride someone’s train or is there somewhere I can go to hop on a train.
Lots of people come to the Triennial that do not own a train. It is common practice to ask for a ride, or to find a train owner looking for a crew member.
I do not personally have any plans. I have posted some Railbike Videos on this channel, and some have closeups that might help, or the videos may lead you to others that might have plans.
Great video. Just something I would add is in addition to using the yellow handle to confirm switch position is eyeball the points when you approach. Mechanical failures of remote switch mechanisms do occur.
Train Mountain ( at lat. 42.55741 lon. -121.88707) is half way between Klamath Falls, Oregon and Crater Lake National Park. The small City of Chiloquin, Oregon, is just to the east of Train Mountain.
Train Mountain has an international event every three years called the "Train Mountain Triennial." It is a two week event, the last two weeks of June, and there is one this year. The 13 people coming from Australia would call a 3000 mile commute short. I also know of people coming from Canada, Germany, South Africa, Switzerland, and the UK. There are at least 50 coming from the east coast states. About half the people coming have their own equipment, the others do not. So, no you do not need to own any equipment to visit and see Train Mountain.
Tom Watson Read about this place 20 something years ago in Live Steam. It must be like the universe and just keeps expanding. So beautiful. How many visitors a year do you have? Crowds look good.
This is kind of like open track days where you bring your own car, but it's with trains instead..WONDERFUL!. We don't have anything like this where I am.
If a train "breaks down" or derails, you're going to send a 10 year old to walk 210 feet back to flag any oncoming trains. that train then has to send a 10 year old kid back 210 feet to flag the train behind it...but..already having to maintain a 210' distance between trains, if one train stops and the flagman/child isn't deployed, mathematically the 210 distance wouldn't be kept and isn't possible to keep in a worse-case scenario. the backup would cascade, the 210 distance couldn't be kept.
Yes. The 210 feet distance is so you have more than enough time to stop when you see a problem up ahead, including a derailed/stopped train. The conductor goes back that distance so that any oncoming trains will see them soon enough to stop and maintain that extra space. But even if they don't stop in time, there's still more than enough room to stop before hitting the back of the train, which is the only really important thing. Once that train shows up, the conductor's job is done, and the 210 feet doesn't mean dick - they just need to wait before starting back up.
Once the next train comes into view, the first conductor returns to their train and the second train can actually slowly pull up to the stopped train. Then the second train conductor goes back the 210 feet.
Absolutely brilliant. What's wrong with having a safety video like this @Robert Rockwell? It's an open to public train operating facility which has every intention of beating the living hell out of TRAINZ Rail Sim and not causing injury or worse on any grounds ... I'd LOVE to visit this place! BUCKET LIST Entry for sure here!!!
I am assuming the propane only rule for steamers is to prevent cinders from starting fires. My only question is are other pressurized gas fuel systems considered or authorized. ie: CNG, or H1? Also are conventional fuels such as gasoline, diesel, permitted in non steam equipment?
You are correct that the propane only for external combustion engines is for fire prevention. I see no reason why other pressurized gas systems could not be approved. Should someone actually have such a locomotive, or contemplate building one, they should submit a request to Train Mountain, with details, and ask to have it considered for approval. Yes, gas and diesel are permitted for internal combustion engines.
Can you guys add a train and line like I saw on the documentary "Snowpiercer"? I want to blast through feet of snow, ice, and avalanches while tipping at a 30deg angle going around a mountain pass 1000 feet from the valley floor while growing hydroponic tomatoes and giving cello lessons to 9 year olds. Thanks
@@Tiibero That is not likely to happen if you use a proper safety chain for the weight you are pulling. Something we tell people when they are picking a heavy enough safety chain, "Would you use this chain to hang what you are pulling over your brand new car in the garage?"
That's how you learn the railroad. Take water, your lunch and maybe dinner too, and anything else you require. When ready to return, just set the switches you come to for the green circle and it will take you back (This is explained in the video).
I dont understand all the negativity in the comments section. It's literally just a surprisingly pleasant safety video for a miniature railroad. There's literally nothing to be negative or mean about, and yet people are picking on anything they can.
"Too many rules, everybody looks fat, that 10 year old shouldnt be holding a safety flag..." Do you even hear yourself? The hell crawled up your butt to make you go out of your way to say something mean here? Is your life so devoid of happiness that you HAVE to say something crummy on a perfectly innocent video? This isnt even controversial in any way! Its a SAFETY VIDEO.
Take a drink of Scotch, you need it.
Sounds to me everyone else in the comment section needs it more than I do if they could manage to find fault in something so innocuous.
Forget it, Gileum. It's the Internet.
The simple answer is: some people on the internet suck, and just say what ever they freakin want on these kinds of videos, it’s annoying
some are just chronic complainers that screwed up their own lives they feel better screwing up perfection for others.
this place is awesome and the safety concerns merely attempt to ensure mutual safety for everyone.
and as far as kids holding flags... i guess there will always be those that DON’T pay any attention to safety instructions and are the first to complain something isnt their fault when they screw up perfection.
the narrator said, the conductor is responsible for alerting on coming trains of an issue up head and MAY instruct a passenger to alert on coming trains if the Engineer requires their assistance..
OMgosh..
can’t stand unhappy miserable people who refuse to better their lives to share in happiness..
this is a family orientated place and nothing more pleasant then getting younger generations off their iphones, Xbox’s Play Stations, tablets, and Androids and out getting involved in a hobby.. instead of mischief and crime.
March COVID: I’m going to use this time to write the next great novel.
December COVID: I watched the entire 16 minute train mountain safety video.
If the Safety Video is not enough, the 2018 Train Mountain Triennial video is available on DVD and Blue Ray
At least I now know about the safety of a place I probably will never go to. :)
Now I know how not to die at train mountain
@@MetraEmdF40PH kno, know I now
Watched it even BEFORE COVID....
This reminds me of '80s and '90s vhs tape style videos with modern technology! This makes me feel nostalgic!
POVHFR VIdeos you nailed it! I couldn't put a finger on it....i feel like I'm 16 watching a video on how to be a cashier at a chain grocery store lol
Thanks! lol
Yes, this was a very well executed video! New with an old school touch.
Totally!
exactly
I love how the website footage is literally a camera pointed at a screen
I had no idea something like this existed.. at first i laughed then I wanted to get drunk and ride a train.
Collin Cook 😂😂😂😂
Can we do that? 🤷🏻♂️
Just get lawn tractor.
Samzies
We had a drunk lady on the Amtrak once... who missed her stop, so we had to back up back to the station
It would be a dream to visit this place someday. Down in Australia, especially where I am located we don't have anything near this big! It's still very fun, but being able to run trains for hours and still be seeing new things must be an incredible experience!
Put TM on your Bucket List. We have several Aussie Members at TM. A few make the trip every year. Several came during the June Triennial Event this year, and three that I know about are coming in about two weeks.
Can I get a safety badge for watching the whole thing
lol there is a real badge
@@rubeybros2613 rlly
If you take the test.
At first I thought this was super childish and stupid.... but then I stopped a moment and realized how much work went into this facility and the trains they run there. Now I want to go there and look at some of these trains in great detail.
It is childish and stupid, anyone over 10 should not play with trains
That’s your opinion, although hundreds of millions of adults over the decades would like to counter your statement
@@victorvaida4272 So what, men like to play and I'm 80 and still like to play. Besides God said I am but a child to Him but not you?
Victor Vaida We don’t grow up, our toys just get more expensive.
gmctech you should see how much some of this costs, it REALLY sucks when they get damaged and have to repair it
This concept should be franchised with facilities around the globe to teach people about trains.
BTW - if someone wanted to, I could help them put forth a compelling business plan and strategy. It's a viable franchising concept.
Sure.... get your wallet out.
Always an idea,
but no money...$$$
1. Good luck being able to afford it
2. Good luck meeting safety requirements. If the property doesn't have a permanent residence on it, it gets classified as an amusement park because of extremely stupid wording in the relevant legislation.
@@LanceWinslow I am from india. I am interested. I have nice workshop. I want this facility in india and iln position to invest. My hobby is 7 1/4 " steam loco making. My whatsapp no +919871411226
I've never even heard of Train Mountain, but after seeing this -extremely- weird video, I'm honestly considering seeing it. Great video work. Sometimes, the strangest videos get you the most promotion!
One of these days I'll get over there. Definitly on the bucket list.
I take it that multi track drifting is not allowed without explicit permission?
Oh shit forgot about that. Guess I'm not going here
*deja vu*
Someone had tested that, and rip the bottom of his loco, and got the secton of tracks closed for a whole week to repair.
@@Saviliana goddamn
Saviliana what? Ripped the bottom?
So I live in the UK, I've never heard of this railroad. And yet, I watched the whole video. Really interesting! Thank you
same XD
Very cool! Seems more serious than just a hobby however. I think it would be cool to see one of these railroads actually be productively functional such as on a farm, camp ground, resort campus, or amusement park... ie actually transporting goods, materials, and passengers to a destination.
People actually do this as well. I don't have links handy, but I know some have websites. Plenty of that as well as hobby railways that are ran by enthusiasts like this one. Also, all that trackage needs to be maintained, so the track kind of makes for "real" work.
It isn't really "the worlds largest hobby railroad," that is a mistake in the video title. It is presently being updated to, "The Worlds Longest Miniature Railroad," which is how Train Mountain is listed in Guinness World Records. The mission is that of railroad education, where visitors can learn how railroads operate by seeing and doing it in miniature. The Train Mountain CTC ("Central Train Control") system uses the same data stream and displays as that used by the full size Class 1 railroads. During the Operations Meet, our miniature trains are dispatched and move freight and passengers the same as full size railroads. This is not only a lot of fun, but is very educational. After all, train enthusiasts can play with miniature trains, but the full size railroads just won't let us play with the big trains.
Tom Watson Sounds fantastic!
Thanks for your educated reply.
It is splitting hairs, but the "CTC" of Union Switch & Signal meant Centralized Traffic Control/ The Central Train Control is an apt name also.
Thanks for posting this video. Ever since I was a boy, I've always wondered how railways like this work.
Would love to see the signal-box/control room indicator display. Great view from Google Maps too.
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Pretty cool, actualy.
blueridgepics I agree
Wow! What an awesome setup. I am blown away by the detailed construction on the rolling stock and engines. I especially loved the Pennsy GG 1. One of my favorite old engines.
GG1 is my all time favorite Have a G scale model of one cost me a small fortune
@@GDS1970 Are these at Train Mountain G scale trains? I don't know much about model trains scales other than there are O, HO, and some others.
@@Caderic Train mountain is 7.5" gauge, typically 1.5:12 scale (1.5 inches = 1 foot), or 1/8th size. Thats approx 10 times the size of HO, which is 1/87th real size.
Sometimes 7.5" is modeled as narrow gauge, which makes them up to twice as large or 1/4 scale (3:12)
Real shame about the propane only steam trains :(
Other than that, the place looks amazing. Might have to let dad know when he goes to the states visiting all the American steam trains lol.
Matthew Farrell might be due to the dry climate. They are trying to avoid wildfires. Sad but it's for the best
And why should Oil fired be banned?
All standard gauge steamers here in oregon are oil fired. Also propane is more dangerous than oil.
I guess it's about soot and embers. Which would be valid reasons to ban coal or wood fired steamers. But I don't really see a reason to ban oil, petrol or ethanol fired steamers. Hell it might even be an EPA thing and way beyond their control.
@@fermitupoupon1754 I don't think it's an EPA thing, I heard that the property owners were the ones to add this rule. Maybe they didn't like the smell?
Well, I live about 452 miles north of it, near Seattle. I assume you live in the UK?
this place look awesome, well thought out, very tidy and a great place to take the family for the day.
This is such a cool idea. It'd be really fun to run one of those trains someday.
I am very impressed with the running of your railroad, safety of everybody is paramount.
Love the video!! Great shots and information!! Absolutely fantastic, you've got to love this place!!
Great video and tutorial of this amazing facility! I'd love to see this place in person but being so far away would probably never happen. Thanks for sharing this video with us along with your PRICELESS time and effort! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware USA
Never say never. Maybe someday you will be able to visit.
2:56 That DSP&P Locomotive is beautiful
Yet another destination to add to my retirement motorcycling tour across the country. My Dad was a model railway club guy back in the UK :)
We will be looking forward to seeing you when you can visit. We have several members in the UK that come when they can.
What a freaking awesome place! Wish we had something like that here in Aus.
We have railroaders from QLD and NSW coming for the Triennial this June.
There are many places like this in both Austria and Australia (not sure which one you were referring to), where people come together to run their trains. Here's a list of just some of the places in Austalia. www.ameng.com.au/australian_model_engineering_clubs_and_societies.htm
we do dick head its called state rail 1.1 scale
I get it, but as cool as I could hope to be, safe to say I'll never be Aussie cool. Cheers, mate.
Before cov19, I wanted to skip a 2min safety video. Now I am at home watching this 16min safety video. I wish I could have a chance to get there.
I love the serious expressions on these guys faces riding those small trains 🤣🤣
This place is unbelievable! There was one of these mini trains in our town. Was a hobby store with train that went around the building.
You should see it in person up close. You can tell someone about it, but you cannot truly describe it.
I'm SUPER enthusiastic about trains and would LOVE to go BUT I live in the UK so the odds of me going are miniscule
This video was very informative.
10 out of 10 would watch again.
Nice job with the new video. As a former Class I conductor and engineer, I'm glad you changed the rule about solid red signals from "proceed at your own risk" to "absolute stop", like a prototype railroad (hopefully with a procedure for some kind of dispatcher to grant permission past under unusual circumstances - like a malfunctioning signal). If you have any "intermediate" or "automatic" signals, do you put number plates on them to differentiate them from absolutes? If not maybe you should consider doing so - might avoid any confusion. I'm guessing your orientation presentation for visiting operators goes into far more detail. If you don't already, you might want to give some kind of simple "rules test" to everyone before the beginning of the season or meet, just to refresh memories, and/or reinforce the most important things to remember. Wish I could come to the Triennial sometime.
Number plate rule confuses too many people. We don't have number plates. All intermediate signals display flashing red as most restrictive indication instead.
I can appreciate that, since most people in the hobby have not been immersed in railroad culture, but only know it as a hobby. I went back and looked at your on-line rule book again. It appears to have undergone significant revisions in the past few months. It looks like you have had input from at least a few active and/or former railroaders in creating your revised operating rules. I would suggest that a need still exists to address the "unusual occurrence" of a signal that malfunctions or "goes dark". Prototype railroad rules would call for a dark signal to be treated as a "signal displaying it's most restrictive aspect". In your case, that would now be "stop", with no alternative permission to proceed established. I'm guessing you might have an unwritten solution for that occurrence, but I did not see one in your published signal rules. I realize that with all of your extensive prep work for a meet that you probably won't have any signal malfunctions, but it could happen, and there should be something in writing to deal with the issue, especially given the distances from the operations center you have for the most remote parts of the line. It could be something like having a crew member of the train at a dark signal calling either on the radio or cell phone to the dispatcher for verbal permission past the signal at restricted speed until they come to a signal that is working. On your single-track, bi-directional line, the dispatcher would also have to know if their is any opposing traffic as well. Perhaps requiring the train at the dark signal to wait the length of time one would expect it would take for an opposing train to reach them from the next signal ahead. There are such waiting time requirements in prototype rules, often for time-lock switches off of a main track. The rules are there to try and prevent things like head-on, or rear-end collisions, and your rules are much more extensive than many live steam tracks I've seen before, which is a good thing. Perhaps this is a non-issue. I don't know. I just think this is a gap you should look at. Safety first, and keep the wheels on the bottom!
You are probably correct, except that in 31 years these simple rules have worked. Also in the entire 20 plus miles of mainline less than a mile needs to be signaled. Our 'rule book' is a single sided sheet of paper. Pretty simple and pretty safe. Russ
"Whatever can go wrong will, and at the worst possible time." - Murphy
I don't know where train mountain is, but this looks awesome! You guys are great; putting something together like this is super cool.
Does viewing ahead of time count towards our green sticker?
Unfortunately, it does not count for the Triennial. Viewing the Safety Video is only part of the required Safety Class.
This is the coolest thing I think I've ever seen in my life absolutely awesome
Thanks for the comment. Now you need to come and visit.
Someones “ex-wife” said: The only difference between man and boys is the price of their toys. Nevertheless guys - this is increadible - absolutely amazing. Love and great respect from Germany. Keep on going!
The concept is really mind numbing! Impeccable staging to begin this operation.. This is a very healthy mind at work.. Thanks for that... In this world.
Rule number 214: do not re-enact any scenes from the movie “The Jerk” on a moving train.
or "Throw momma from the train"
#215 - Absolutely NO re-enactments of Unstoppable, NO EXCEPTIONS!
ElfNet Designs noo
Rule number 215, do not re-enact any train scenes from James Bond 007 movies.
I didn't know such a magnificent place😍 yesterday (Dec. 19, 2020), it was recommended to me by a friend
👍
Someday, without a doubt, I would like to be there, greetings from Mexico👋
Be sure to visit when you can.
I so wanted to attend this year. I just turned 75 yrs. old, and figured it might be my last time to drive across country to Train Mountain. BUT, I've built, own and run regularly, a 'coal burning locomotive'. Unfortunately, coal, wood and oil burning locomotives have been 'BANNED', from 'RUNNING' at Train Mountain. Lucky for me, I've been invited to run my locomotive at MANY other facilities from the East Coast to the West Coast. AND any number of tracks in between. I participated at TM in 2012 and 2015. BUT, if I can't run my engine there, then there is now logical reason for me to travel 3200 miles, one way, to get there.
I hope you had fun
Ok...
I wonder if the rule for potential spark-producing engines is in place now because too many people no longer take proper care. Maybe they now have to draw the line at the word NO. It's a shame, of course.
@@WhiteTiger333 if that the case why not fitted a spark arrestor?
Oregon is a beautiful state,next time I'm up that way I will have to stop and check the trains out.
*SHELDON LOVES THIS PLACE*
was laughing at this first, but once looking at the Google earth pictures of this massive model- train- facility it makes sense to have a safety video.
This must be a dream for people who own these large scale train sets.
That’s pretty cool , I wish I had something like that near me
12:35 unless in the absolutely unlikely situation occurs where it gets cold enough to freeze them solid. (Given it's in a more hotter environment it's unlikely)
That is the only exception since they don't move when they freeze
This is like a regular railway safety video... just divide everything by 8
Wow this is amazing. The trains are magnificent. This would be a dream for anyone train enthusiast or average person.
they need to make an episode of the big bang theory here and see Sheldon explode with train overload :D :D
Train Mountain is in Chiloquin, Oregon.
6:36 I think she's dead.
No she's sleeping
Sri Malik do I really have to woosh you.
They should have added another sequence and put her clothes on a skeleton sitting there...
@@Crusader1815 XD yes
@@Crusader1815 perfect.
NIce! Never heard about "Train Mountain" before. I think the people will have a lot of fun there. If i have the chance to come to the States, i will visit this place.
Greetings from the Black Forrest in Germay.
Many from your country are members and come to TM every three years for the Triennial event. Please visit when you can.
(0:57) don't you mean "Rules of the rail"
lol said that same thing as soon as hee said it
Never knew something like this existed! Pretty cool. Bet the kids love it.
The big kids and the little kids.
Mr Watson I want to come to this years triennial from Georgia but I won’t be bringing an engine.I want to come and railfan if I can but also ride if possible.Would it be rude if I were to ask to ride someone’s train or is there somewhere I can go to hop on a train.
Lots of people come to the Triennial that do not own a train. It is common practice to ask for a ride, or to find a train owner looking for a crew member.
Tom Watson Thx good to know
What a great attraction for a serious hobbyist and a lot of fun for the public.
Some trains have to carry heavy loads
"Bring your Wife Larry, I wanna test extreme Load Conditions. And bring the Heavy Duty Rail Car, we don't want to destroy the Track"
Don't forget the schnabel car!
And that's just the driver!
Well I guess Boogie2988 won't be going there then..
@@Elfnetdesigns he did lose a lot of weight tho.
so this is where my quarentine has led me.. watching a saftey video for train mountain. this is a whole new level of boredom.
Hey, you needed something to do.
How much does it cost to play????
My little switcher engine cost $300 to build, they retail near $3000 and up, way up
Gary Reese that's actually a lot less than I expected. Still more than I can afford, though. Lol
When I was there in July 2018 I saw some trains with for sale signs on them. One was an Amtrak train if I remember correctly.
Like all hobbies...
costs way more then you ever planned.
@@Gizmo46953 easier and cheaper to put mine cart wheels on an old mobility scooter lol
I don't live nearby nor do I have the money for such a hobby but I learned alot about this place / club and safe operation.
have you got a copy of the railbike plans? please
I do not personally have any plans. I have posted some Railbike Videos on this channel, and some have closeups that might help, or the videos may lead you to others that might have plans.
Great video. Just something I would add is in addition to using the yellow handle to confirm switch position is eyeball the points when you approach. Mechanical failures of remote switch mechanisms do occur.
You are absolutely correct on that. Experienced engineers usually attempt to look at the points when they get close enough.
1:30 XD I was laughing so hard poor guy
Simply amazing, what's the approximate project cost and maintenance cost please
**envy**
Farmer Dave agreed lol
You should expand to NJ. We need something like this as we have like no miniature train set places anywhere around here.
I love this place.
Discover Live Steam club listing shows 9 clubs in NJ. Russ
Where is Train Mountain?
Train Mountain ( at lat. 42.55741 lon. -121.88707) is half way between Klamath Falls, Oregon and Crater Lake National Park. The small City of Chiloquin, Oregon, is just to the east of Train Mountain.
Tom Watson Thank you! 3000+ miles would be a long commute for me. Is it possible to enjoy Train Mountain if you don't own any rail equipment?
floatpool ROLFMAO!
I haven't laughed that hard in a long time!
Train Mountain has an international event every three years called the "Train Mountain Triennial." It is a two week event, the last two weeks of June, and there is one this year. The 13 people coming from Australia would call a 3000 mile commute short. I also know of people coming from Canada, Germany, South Africa, Switzerland, and the UK. There are at least 50 coming from the east coast states. About half the people coming have their own equipment, the others do not. So, no you do not need to own any equipment to visit and see Train Mountain.
Tom Watson Read about this place 20 something years ago in Live Steam. It must be like the universe and just keeps expanding. So beautiful. How many visitors a year do you have? Crowds look good.
This is kind of like open track days where you bring your own car, but it's with trains instead..WONDERFUL!. We don't have anything like this where I am.
TM is the largest in the World, but many areas have smaller railroad parks. If you look, you might find one in your area.
Would it be alright to set fire to dry grass
Jimmy Walker no
I never knew something like this existed. Very nice.
>Me, an eventmanager during lockdown at 6:25 A.M.:
yes, lets watch a 17 minute safety video for a train theme park in the US.
Im from germany.
At 8:05 it says all trains must be fueled by propane but at 5:34 you can see a glowing ash pan that looks like coal?
11:36
Epic Fidget Spinner Moments.
This railway is absolutely massive when looking in google maps, would be sweet to have a drive on it.
Anybody else just asking :“why the Fu** did I just watched this video?!“
Vinzenz P. And still kept watching beaucause it's kinda interesting
I'm feasibly never gonna be able to go here, or even get a model train at that size, but I still watched the video... so strange 😆
Yeah the trains are expensive. I think they're called miniature trains and not model trains though.
If a train "breaks down" or derails, you're going to send a 10 year old to walk 210 feet back to flag any oncoming trains. that train then has to send a 10 year old kid back 210 feet to flag the train behind it...but..already having to maintain a 210' distance between trains, if one train stops and the flagman/child isn't deployed, mathematically the 210 distance wouldn't be kept and isn't possible to keep in a worse-case scenario. the backup would cascade, the 210 distance couldn't be kept.
Yes. The 210 feet distance is so you have more than enough time to stop when you see a problem up ahead, including a derailed/stopped train. The conductor goes back that distance so that any oncoming trains will see them soon enough to stop and maintain that extra space. But even if they don't stop in time, there's still more than enough room to stop before hitting the back of the train, which is the only really important thing. Once that train shows up, the conductor's job is done, and the 210 feet doesn't mean dick - they just need to wait before starting back up.
When I was ten that would have been no problem at all and I'd have been delighted to help out.
We have an 8 year old that knows how to run one of our steam locomotives. We never let him out with out supervision, but he can do it.
Once the next train comes into view, the first conductor returns to their train and the second train can actually slowly pull up to the stopped train. Then the second train conductor goes back the 210 feet.
I haved same question and wacth her face sad
Absolutely brilliant. What's wrong with having a safety video like this @Robert Rockwell? It's an open to public train operating facility which has every intention of beating the living hell out of TRAINZ Rail Sim and not causing injury or worse on any grounds ... I'd LOVE to visit this place! BUCKET LIST Entry for sure here!!!
Why the hell are so many people spilling over their seats??
Jeff MacDougall - Let's face it, model engineering is not exactly an aerobic sport.
Think about it though. All these trains are are overpriced modified mobility scooters on rails...
I am assuming the propane only rule for steamers is to prevent cinders from starting fires. My only question is are other pressurized gas fuel systems considered or authorized. ie: CNG, or H1? Also are conventional fuels such as gasoline, diesel, permitted in non steam equipment?
You are correct that the propane only for external combustion engines is for fire prevention. I see no reason why other pressurized gas systems could not be approved. Should someone actually have such a locomotive, or contemplate building one, they should submit a request to Train Mountain, with details, and ask to have it considered for approval. Yes, gas and diesel are permitted for internal combustion engines.
Yes, it would have been better if the narrator said this is Train Mountain in XX, so you wouldn't have to Google the location. Nice video, though.
Bill Turini Yes. The location could be in the description too.
The video is meant to be viewed at Train Mountain, so it's a little superfluous.
The location has been added to the description. Thanks for the suggestion.
Also a link to the website. :)
If there was a runaway train how would it be stopped
a get-together for super heavy people who ride on folding chairs on a miniature train and bring lunch in huge party coolers?
IMO it would be much cooler without the seats, and the trains were RC. But, whatever floats your boat I suppose!
ǝdɐʇ ʞɔnp
Cool name.
Hey I just want to put on those blue striped coveralls and a railroad hat...
Sounds like my kind of place!
I just saw plumbers crack on a conductor... is that illegal?
11:37 FIDGET SPINNING!
Getting baked and cruising around on a summer night would be absolute vibes
we have this littel train also here in zürich ;-)
Presently, we have three of your countrymen signed up to come to the Train Mountain Triennial in June.
Hoi schwitzer liebi grües us bern
Here's a question? What if the train has brakes on the cars, do they still require chains between the cars?
Yes.
So let's talk about the PUNISHMENT for rule breakers 🚂🚆🚃
public stoning
An hour in the sheds for causing confusion and delay
They are forced to exercise.
Forced to watch reruns of Thomas the Train Engine..
Why is it not the rules of the rails
“You won’t find an experience like this”
It’s called going on a train
Train Mountain or what I would call Heaven!
Great Video and Very Interesting 😊 Thanks for Sharing !😊
Another mandatory rule is that every engineer must be overweight I guess...
It's not really mandatory, but boy do we have good food at the banquets!
Lmao
Lemon parties! Ha!
Better traction.
We call it "O-BEER-THIRTY".
Umm is think the green bricks should be bigger what if no one sees it also is it possible to build a lego railroad next to it
too many rules that's the problem. just can't get out and have fun. no desire to visit.
Robert Rockwell What so you want a crash to happen?!
Health and safety gone wild you will end up like the UK cant hire a rowing boat
And you’d be the first to try suing if you got hurt
The rules are there for the conductors, don't need to worry about that I suppose?
You can definitely hire a rowing boat in the UK. It's very popular.
why am i here and why did i enjoy watching this so much?
Can you guys add a train and line like I saw on the documentary "Snowpiercer"? I want to blast through feet of snow, ice, and avalanches while tipping at a 30deg angle going around a mountain pass 1000 feet from the valley floor while growing hydroponic tomatoes and giving cello lessons to 9 year olds. Thanks
Sounds like a good project. When would you like to start on this project?
What if the chain or the wire thingy snaps ? When the trains coulper is detached from the cars? What do i do then?
If the coupler fails, or somehow come undone, that is what the safety chain is for.
No i mean if the safety chain snaps
@@Tiibero That is not likely to happen if you use a proper safety chain for the weight you are pulling. Something we tell people when they are picking a heavy enough safety chain, "Would you use this chain to hang what you are pulling over your brand new car in the garage?"
Ok
When is the triennial
The 2018 Triennial just ended. The next one will be in June of 2021.
But what if you want to test your luck and see where the switch will take you?
That's how you learn the railroad. Take water, your lunch and maybe dinner too, and anything else you require. When ready to return, just set the switches you come to for the green circle and it will take you back (This is explained in the video).