Not a single rogue is celebrating thistle tea becoming passive, it's not a win. It can be totally wasted for whenever you need it during bursts, as its still tied to mastery. I have no idea why content creators without a clue keeps upvoting this, if they dont know better.
I can't help but read the changes as a nerf to good rogues and a buff to bad rogues. They're removing most of the small nuances that you can take advantage of. Big gain for qol and style of play, but I don't think these are necessarily buffs.
I like the idea, one elss thing to worry about. That said, I'm not sure having it auto cast the existing version of it is the right way to go about it. I think it would work a lot better as a passive ability which drastically increases your in combat energy regeneration, either by means of a self buff or passively in the background like how MP5 works.
I hate this change so much, I keep Thistle tea for CD usage. If those playing Rogue can't manage their energy right they need to hit up the training dummy. Hell if keep your energy above 50% you get extra damage at the cost of 2 extra energy points.
@@lesepypoo7347 you can tell the numbers he's using aren't always "true." Like....if you have a good feral, their dps is crazy. I just don't think that many good players play feral.
True but I think we’ll be fine. At least in raids I’m usually at least top 10 but I haven’t done any mythic raids or gone above mythic 4. But maybe it’s my skill cuz I don’t do well with rogue, love it but I suck at it 😂
I'm ok with shadow having less burst damage in favor of better sustain. They really need adjustments in their scaling with gear. We've seen for the past two expansions how shadow starts the expansion off relatively weak, but once we get that end-of-expansion gear on us we are beastly in terms of overall damage. This to me indicates a problem with our scaling and how we benefit from gear stats. If we can have stronger base stats and benefit a little less from gear, especially at higher item levels, our power gains will feel more gradual and we won't need so many mid-season damage adjustments.
I love the style of play with Demonology. Ive been maining lock since legion and its onw of the few classes that really clicks with me as i know all the cool downs and mechanics of the class and i can solo tier 8 delves with it. Its just if you mess up your rotation or miss a proc it will really lower your DPS. I wish we had better shard regeneration or maybe even 6 shard slots so i wasnt always wasting shards on accident with my procs. Especially since infernal bolt generates 3. We need more shard slots.
As a WW Monk I feel fine where its at, there could be a few things to touch on, but its also mostly a skill based class, which makes it more fun to play. Most of the time im still top dps in my raid group with classes like UH DK and Mages. Its all how you look at it and if you know your spec.
Druid both Guardian and Balance are actually good. Guardian is S-tier tank in both mythics and raids and also the easiest the play in terms of tanking by a large margin. I dont play balane but I've seen the damage they can do in my M+ pugs and they are no joke.
issue is that as the season progressed and we saw how well some classes were actually doing blizzard failed to update their patch notes for 11.0.5. leaving a lot of under performing classes in the dust while the current meta classes get a lot of changes. I have a good feeling they'll throw flat % damage increases like they've been doing all season long hoping to balance dmg out when they should be incorporating better talents/skills.
@@CoversIncorporated Yeah S-Priest combat mobility sux. Perhaps some kind of talent is required which causes your dots to behave as if mind flay is active whenever you move, and I’d also like an adjustment to fade which gives 100% avoidance for a short time, that way I can stay put and finish casting that spell I was in the middle of when something gets thrown under my feet yet again.
I have played spriest most seasons since DF season 1 and ever since they removed the charges of instant mind spikes you could store movement has felt like I’m still playing WOTLK era compared to how movement feels on literally any of the mage specs (my other main)
sucks to hear about the warlocks =\ i've been having a good time with mine but i mostly do solo content so i haven't been able to test my damage. hopefully they get some love soon! great video as usual !
Can anyone tell me what class/spec is the most fun/smoothest or have least friction when doing solo content. Mostly old (but fairly recent) raids and current solo content like delves. Looking mostly at paladin, druid and maybe shaman. Hunter and DK are close too.
I main ret paladin and there is not any content I don't feel safe doing solo. The reason I keep going back to ret is when I play an alt of a different class or spec the feel squishy or can't self heal the way ret can
you forgot one of the loser classes....havoc dh, you gotta press 700000000 buttons to do almost as much damage as a ret (for a pull cause then u gotta wait another 2 minutes for meta)
And if you mess up an opener in anyway you screw yourself. Lag made me miss my inertia buff (thanks starlink) and you just flat lose 18% damage. You spend more time flipping around than doing damage.
Brah really? Arms literally getting aoe nerfed and a 2% dmg reduction from slayer from overwhelmed. How are we not the number 1 loser. Not to mention we have 0 utility except battle shout and rally cry..
Really? I've been gaining the odd level here and there through delves with mine but she is still BM spec, I was thinking of going MM come level 80 but if survival is nice I might give it a shot, I really enjoyed it in legion when it became a melee spec.
Been thoroughly enjoying survival this xpac. Finished up my 4 piece tier set and got some enchants on my gear and it felt like a nice big upgrade. The 11.0.5 changes make me really excited going forward
There has never been a point in WoW where Warlock hasn’t been exceptional in a raid tier. Look at Liquid’s Lock main THD, him being on Warlock was invaluable to their win. Affliction is very similar to Unholy. Lags behind in low keys but absolutely crushes in high keys where pulls can last several minutes.
@@Zach3rry59 No, not really. Go watch any recording of a Destro in a +13 Necrotic and you’ll see them demolishing frost dks. Destro is probably the highest AoE in the game right now without an Aug. Unholy is probably slightly above them if you’re pulling 4-5 packs onto the boss.
You are slightly mistaken about prots not getting any famage mit they are getting 10% armor 10% more on sotr and the lesser cds on hammer and hidgement means more sotrs. Is it enough? Idk
Dispatch granting Slice And Dice is going to feel so good! I'm interested to see how much I'll miss pressing Thistle Tea, but Outlaw is severely bloated so I probably won't miss it.
Outlaw having the highest APM in the game is precisly whats making it a great spec, dunno how yall can ever rejoyce about CDS turning into passives as gamers
Good invigorating shadowdust was shitty to play when solo. They also just need to remove totem gameplay for enhancement, or totems in general its outdated and doesn't feel good to just press a button and forgetting about it
Its so funny to read all these comments from people complaining about their class/spec. Have you guys ever played feral druid? they where decent in the 1800 century and forgotten ever since! Even in this video, he brings up balance, guardian & resto...
It's videos like this that ruin the game, when it comes to real deal it's not exactly like this, then ppl wouldn't invite warlocks, priests etc... even though they are in fact really good. I play SP and it's great! everywhere I go I top dps, but it's very hard to get an invite cause stupid people keep saying it's bad! fingerless people!
You are playing with bad players if you are topping dps with shadow, and your Anecdotal experience doesn’t mean anything, statistically shadow is not very great right now. And as a warlock main and shadow priest player, they both need help. And not speaking up about it and saying they are good is detrimental to the class so please. Don’t clear normal raid and say a class is good because you topped dps
@TheComebackKids The shadow priest player in our guild is third top DPS next to the paladin and hunter. They ran M7 just fine. We've seen the numbers and yes, the priest isn't going to make it past M7, but to be honest, the rewards past M7 aren't worth it. 50 gold is a slap in the face.
@@instinct3684 Well looking at logs for Mythic+ is a mistake friend. The sample size for people clearing +15s is incredibly skewed and limited to only the “meta” Most of us aren’t playing at that level and the keys we are doing. Warlocks are most definitely wanted for many things, like doing skips, stones and their powerful mass AoE.
@@MikeyJ232 I am Playing 12-13 key Range and have Problems to deliver the dps. Then comes a 1 Button retri and outdamages me By a mile. This Cant be the case for a Full dps class
They are intentionally manipulating balancing for player retention goals, not balance goals. That much is clear. Considering everything else they do for retention times and $$$, why would they not rotate OP classes. The mage Tower hints at this - that blizzard considers certain specs as belong to the same “family”. Make a spec in the family strong and another spec garbage. That way, the warlock player is more likely to reroll to elemental shaman, for example, and less likely to unsub
As a warlock main, with the current state of m+ etc i'm seriously considering unsubing and returning at the end of expansion just to do the story. I wanna play my class, and not reroll to whatever meta it is at the moment.
Resto druid once again getting buffed in the wrong direction. The class is becoming more of a regrowth spammer healer than hot class every fucking patch.
Beyond ridiculous that Warlocks and SPs got damn all... Voidweaver itself is pathetically undertuned where Archon excels on literally every regard, strictly existing for PvP for its 70% slow... so yay, in PvP there's a visual difference from Enemy Rifts! 🙄
Paladin is so insane lol, I get on my Paladin and it really doesn't matter what I do...I just top DPS boards. I get do range and up close damage while moving and instacast. Arcane Mage everyone loves is true, but only on boss damage. The second you need to move you are screwed as unless Missile or Barrage is up then you need to stay still. Warriors still are gear dependent and while ill always love them, its for sure weak AF. My DK I noticed its a near joke of a class to play...just limited brain cortex functionality and you dominate...I can switch off and dominate like with Paladin. My warlock? Another easy class, Mage so far for me is the "advanced" class but im going to play around more...im do not intend to raid, I have a life so cant dedicate that time so AOE spec over single target may be better for me. Played since vanilla, this is always how it is and will be, have a bunch of toons ready and play that flavor of the patch class.
Not its not even top 6 of ranged dps any spec we suck we offer nothing not to mention with the clunky playstyle of demo rn its just bad design @@mimcduffee86
@@dreadsou1475 Boohoo, whine more - every class has their spotlight, and warlock as a whole gets invited to raids for existing on top of being above the middle of the pack for a very long time. Look at survival hunter and then whine more , SV has been useful a total of two seasons since legion :)
@@dreadsou1475 im a mythic raider and we currently got 2 warlocks on our team. just play what you enjoy my guy, stop worrying so much about meta. warlocks will rise again, its not like they will be bad for years. i've mained shaman for years and shaman are often in a rough spot, especially ele and resto, and look at them now, popping off for all 3 specs
crackshot outlaw rogue from Dragonflight S3 is litterally the funnyest and most demanding spec ever released since the launch of vanilla i couldnt disagree more with your take
finally someone is talking how shit is ww monk. big THANK YOU maybe the blizzard bullies will see this video and stop living in deniel that the classes are balanced! and ww monk was and is at tbe button for 10 fk years!
My ret paladin is very good already and so is my shadow priest. I've been leveling my enhance shammy in delves as well and I can see why they are topping the charts at the moment as she is good at making mobs dissapear quickly, I do find her quite squishy though.
@@SomethingOldSomethingNew-ux9ms Really? I got mine to 72 off the isle of Worf delves and it felt okay, but every class does at that level because of all those epics I got from the launch event.
@@SomethingOldSomethingNew-ux9ms Well that’s one I haven’t heard yet. Blood doesn’t need a buff, it’s as good as it’s going to be after the rework to Death Strike. What needs a rework is San’Layn, it’s beyond useless compared to Deathbringer. (620 BDK here and enjoying the spec)
As of now i have 610 ilvl and i can keep up with people who is 15 ilvl more than me , i cant beat them in dps and numbers but i am close to them in terms of dmg and dps
The amount of people crying about thistle tea. They don’t realize that it’s still AN ON USE ability. That it just auto sends when u hit 30 or less energy
So they're buffing all the overpowered classes and then throwing all the classes that aren't doing well in the trash, instead of balancing the game so people can enjoy the spec and class that they like. Great
I think it's a pretty high chance of balance becoming meta and participating in god comp. It's already one of the best ranged DPS (only losing out for Aug) in the high keys. Mages are losing a lot of value with resto shaman and Aug being so damn strong, and with balance becoming meta, Prot warrior can become the best tank for pushing high keys (suppressing the guardian druids). I think the resto shaman, Prot warrior, aug, balance and frost DK maybe the god comp this time around
that is completely untrue. fire is not s tier because of damage. fire is there because it has extremely high survivability. damage is so much lower compared to other classes.the worst performing spec in m+ for mages don't get gaslighted by content creators@@xlightninghawk6360
thank you! crackshot is such mind numbing garbage man. its like a slot machine simulator. and nothing else. and its 2 slots. first slot is getting the god roll 5 buff and then keep it rolling and second slot is subterfuge window and getting 5+ pts per crackshot proc. its so annoying, just bring combat back as a 4th spec for rogue and give priests a kick.
Bro blizzard is trolling monks like wtf no ability in any game,that has ppl running around with roughly 10 million health, should hit for 3000 lmao ps feral is dominating pvp i feel like you been living under a rock not knowing that good vid otherwise tho
Bro said druids arent having any success in any content lol. Yeah, this channel is way off base. Just a pve opinion page. Great voice, seems like he means well, but not based.
Lmaoo crazy he’s saying pally is dominating which they aren’t and most of the players playing them suck from my experience. And then say Druid tank needs help when they are the 2nd best tank in the game. Boomkin is on the rise as well in m+. R Druid is close to being decent too needs a lil love though.
Except Ret pally is one of the best dps right now in m+ and raid on top of being tanky as fuck and one of the easiest specs to play...Holy Pally is also a really strong healer...so what are you talking about?
@@SkrimpKing one of the best is not dominating. Frost dk, enhancement shaman and rogue are dominating for melee. Let’s not begin with Mages, Aug evokers, Spriest and Boomkins are the more favorable pick for a push group. Being 4th best isn’t dominating. Worst tank spec in the game along side BrM. And Holy is fine. Still think RSham and Disc are better. So let’s back up what are you talking about? I personally main a rsham and I will never opt to invite a ret into the group unless it’s someone I know. Majority of them are very bad from my experience.
"Numbers just simply aren't there..." Because they don't get a chance! No invites, people only want the meta = mostly players with no exp with the class trying to cheese the game! I prefer a great "bad spec" player then those curious ones!
@@TheComebackKids WW monks actually perform really well in raids and keystones. They also bring alot of utility. Majority of the time I'm top 5 in raid on most bosses and when it comes to cleaving bosses I top the charts. Same with keys. Tons of cleave in there. In my keys I'm usually number 1 on the charts. Alot of times you won't see big numbers on most of your pulls but if you check the overall you'll see that we have good sustain and burst to keep our numbers up. We can also pop off on ST if everything lines up good. Sure the meta classes can do more but they also have to perform just as well as me if they wanna out dps me lol
Mate, I wont argue if you are right with what youre saying or not. But isn't one comment enough? Despite the fact that you are somewhat upset(?) or something from what I see, you're acting like the kid who always has to interrupt the big one to fetch a useless comment into the Speech. --- Also, from what perspective are you talking btw. ? My Hunter is at 2,5k rio now, pugs only(where usually all my alts sit), yeah it takes some time to get invited, but have you seen the vast blow of people signing up for keys? If its a popular key you have usually 20-30 dd's in 1-2minutes in the 8+'s Key Levels. And I'm and altoholic playing literally everything being meta or not. I'm never struggling to get going, yeah you wont get insta-invites, but youll get them eventually. DPS-Wise, if you look at Raw Numbers (cause literally every spec has blasters who are at around 3k rio) on mythicstats.com for example, its pretty much as even as it has ever been IMO.
@@twohopes8353 no ww is not garbage its good in mythic+ and so is mw. he says druid is average and below, bear is no.2 tank in mythic + and good in raid. boomy is s tier mythic+. feral is s tier pvp druid not average......
Not a single rogue is celebrating thistle tea becoming passive, it's not a win. It can be totally wasted for whenever you need it during bursts, as its still tied to mastery. I have no idea why content creators without a clue keeps upvoting this, if they dont know better.
True
I can't help but read the changes as a nerf to good rogues and a buff to bad rogues. They're removing most of the small nuances that you can take advantage of.
Big gain for qol and style of play, but I don't think these are necessarily buffs.
I like the idea, one elss thing to worry about. That said, I'm not sure having it auto cast the existing version of it is the right way to go about it. I think it would work a lot better as a passive ability which drastically increases your in combat energy regeneration, either by means of a self buff or passively in the background like how MP5 works.
You can burn energy pop passive tea then burst.
I hate this change so much, I keep Thistle tea for CD usage. If those playing Rogue can't manage their energy right they need to hit up the training dummy. Hell if keep your energy above 50% you get extra damage at the cost of 2 extra energy points.
Saying Guardian Druid is subpar in mythic + is....hilarious?
I said each spec for Druid is average or subpar yes.
@@TheComebackKids u have brain damage. Boomies doing 3m overall in M+s right now are you cracked in the brain.
They turned ele shaman into a sith lord
Guardian druid is actually pretty good atm in both raid and dungeons
meta in m+ atm ... yeh
yeah i was like wait guardian is bad atm? when u see all high keys either using warrior or bear xD
@@niminikune Yeah its cause this guy didn't do his research and probably just listened to one of his bad friends complain about it....
@@lesepypoo7347 you can tell the numbers he's using aren't always "true." Like....if you have a good feral, their dps is crazy. I just don't think that many good players play feral.
It’s true, Guardian and Feral are both very solid and strong in M+ especially but they often get ignored.
As a demo lock, I feel abandoned...
Yeah I feel this
yep rerolled from lock to ele shammy like a week ago personally
True but I think we’ll be fine. At least in raids I’m usually at least top 10 but I haven’t done any mythic raids or gone above mythic 4.
But maybe it’s my skill cuz I don’t do well with rogue, love it but I suck at it 😂
Holy priest here, we feel you
play affliction, press malefic rapture, win. it's that easy.
I'm ok with shadow having less burst damage in favor of better sustain. They really need adjustments in their scaling with gear. We've seen for the past two expansions how shadow starts the expansion off relatively weak, but once we get that end-of-expansion gear on us we are beastly in terms of overall damage. This to me indicates a problem with our scaling and how we benefit from gear stats. If we can have stronger base stats and benefit a little less from gear, especially at higher item levels, our power gains will feel more gradual and we won't need so many mid-season damage adjustments.
Yea well while everyone gets a 20% buff with their set gear warrior gets 2-4%
Yeah, it's fun where SPs and Warlocks are getting benched...
How does every feel about the DK changes? i feel like I don't do as much damage but...could just be me.
what is the hunter bow you are using in this video at 1:40 called?
I love the style of play with Demonology. Ive been maining lock since legion and its onw of the few classes that really clicks with me as i know all the cool downs and mechanics of the class and i can solo tier 8 delves with it. Its just if you mess up your rotation or miss a proc it will really lower your DPS. I wish we had better shard regeneration or maybe even 6 shard slots so i wasnt always wasting shards on accident with my procs. Especially since infernal bolt generates 3. We need more shard slots.
As a WW Monk I feel fine where its at, there could be a few things to touch on, but its also mostly a skill based class, which makes it more fun to play. Most of the time im still top dps in my raid group with classes like UH DK and Mages. Its all how you look at it and if you know your spec.
13:49 wrong , druid tank is dominating in Mythic plus, all highest keys are with a tank druid
Druid both Guardian and Balance are actually good. Guardian is S-tier tank in both mythics and raids and also the easiest the play in terms of tanking by a large margin. I dont play balane but I've seen the damage they can do in my M+ pugs and they are no joke.
issue is that as the season progressed and we saw how well some classes were actually doing blizzard failed to update their patch notes for 11.0.5. leaving a lot of under performing classes in the dust while the current meta classes get a lot of changes. I have a good feeling they'll throw flat % damage increases like they've been doing all season long hoping to balance dmg out when they should be incorporating better talents/skills.
Hey guys play what you want. I’ll take a great player with a bad class vs a meta class with a bad player.
yeaaa tell that to the pugs.
Let spriest cast vamp touch on the move dang it
You can when you change to drac race lok
@@CoversIncorporated Yeah S-Priest combat mobility sux. Perhaps some kind of talent is required which causes your dots to behave as if mind flay is active whenever you move, and I’d also like an adjustment to fade which gives 100% avoidance for a short time, that way I can stay put and finish casting that spell I was in the middle of when something gets thrown under my feet yet again.
I have played spriest most seasons since DF season 1 and ever since they removed the charges of instant mind spikes you could store movement has felt like I’m still playing WOTLK era compared to how movement feels on literally any of the mage specs (my other main)
@@lakonacosner9747 Hover is an evoker ability not a dracthyr racial, so no, you can't.
@@jelleman5785 my bad inread that all wrong
sucks to hear about the warlocks =\ i've been having a good time with mine but i mostly do solo content so i haven't been able to test my damage. hopefully they get some love soon! great video as usual !
Thank you Gibby
what bow is that, for the hunter that you're using that is black with white feathers
Hola pala slaps in raids but its abysmal in m+. Hoping it feels better after the rework
Can anyone tell me what class/spec is the most fun/smoothest or have least friction when doing solo content. Mostly old (but fairly recent) raids and current solo content like delves. Looking mostly at paladin, druid and maybe shaman. Hunter and DK are close too.
I main ret paladin and there is not any content I don't feel safe doing solo. The reason I keep going back to ret is when I play an alt of a different class or spec the feel squishy or can't self heal the way ret can
Let's just say I don't regret choosing to main a ret pally when I started playing again.
Not even a section for warrior bc we’ve lost so much it’s not even worth mentioning
you forgot one of the loser classes....havoc dh, you gotta press 700000000 buttons to do almost as much damage as a ret (for a pull cause then u gotta wait another 2 minutes for meta)
Don't forget the part where you misjudge your distances a little bit and yeet yourself into the void with fel rush.
@@wuguxiandi9413 That would be a skill issue sir
I have always felt that Havoc felt clunky to use, ESPECIALLY the movement abilities. Could never get into that class.
And if you mess up an opener in anyway you screw yourself. Lag made me miss my inertia buff (thanks starlink) and you just flat lose 18% damage. You spend more time flipping around than doing damage.
Monk needs new devs
That's the reason they got a cool tier 2 set. Can't have the best of both worlds, Hannah.
Brah really? Arms literally getting aoe nerfed and a 2% dmg reduction from slayer from overwhelmed. How are we not the number 1 loser. Not to mention we have 0 utility except battle shout and rally cry..
I am maining a warrior atm but I have to admit that survival hunter is great fun and very deadly.
Really? I've been gaining the odd level here and there through delves with mine but she is still BM spec, I was thinking of going MM come level 80 but if survival is nice I might give it a shot, I really enjoyed it in legion when it became a melee spec.
Been thoroughly enjoying survival this xpac. Finished up my 4 piece tier set and got some enchants on my gear and it felt like a nice big upgrade. The 11.0.5 changes make me really excited going forward
There has never been a point in WoW where Warlock hasn’t been exceptional in a raid tier.
Look at Liquid’s Lock main THD, him being on Warlock was invaluable to their win.
Affliction is very similar to Unholy. Lags behind in low keys but absolutely crushes in high keys where pulls can last several minutes.
we are seeing right now, you can't use the exception to say that Warlocks are doing exceptional lol
no true at all in 12+ any mage/rogue/ret/dk will just obliterate u in dps / survivability / utility
@@Zach3rry59 No, not really. Go watch any recording of a Destro in a +13 Necrotic and you’ll see them demolishing frost dks. Destro is probably the highest AoE in the game right now without an Aug.
Unholy is probably slightly above them if you’re pulling 4-5 packs onto the boss.
@@MikeyJ232 ye all of this comment could not be more wrong tbh
You are slightly mistaken about prots not getting any famage mit they are getting 10% armor 10% more on sotr and the lesser cds on hammer and hidgement means more sotrs. Is it enough? Idk
Dispatch granting Slice And Dice is going to feel so good!
I'm interested to see how much I'll miss pressing Thistle Tea, but Outlaw is severely bloated so I probably won't miss it.
Outlaw having the highest APM in the game is precisly whats making it a great spec, dunno how yall can ever rejoyce about CDS turning into passives as gamers
Enhancement might get a very brutal nerf on season 2
R shammy should get even more brutal nerf imo :D
eh has a bug that makes them do 12% more dps then they should but blizz dunno how to fix it.
Good invigorating shadowdust was shitty to play when solo. They also just need to remove totem gameplay for enhancement, or totems in general its outdated and doesn't feel good to just press a button and forgetting about it
Its so funny to read all these comments from people complaining about their class/spec. Have you guys ever played feral druid? they where decent in the 1800 century and forgotten ever since! Even in this video, he brings up balance, guardian & resto...
It's videos like this that ruin the game, when it comes to real deal it's not exactly like this, then ppl wouldn't invite warlocks, priests etc... even though they are in fact really good. I play SP and it's great! everywhere I go I top dps, but it's very hard to get an invite cause stupid people keep saying it's bad! fingerless people!
That's really great written And really truth.
You are playing with bad players if you are topping dps with shadow, and your Anecdotal experience doesn’t mean anything, statistically shadow is not very great right now. And as a warlock main and shadow priest player, they both need help. And not speaking up about it and saying they are good is detrimental to the class so please. Don’t clear normal raid and say a class is good because you topped dps
A better reply would be, where is it exactly that you top dos wherever you go? the answer will speak for itself xD
@@TheComebackKids mainly Its about Fun, i love you all chasing to be top DPS, but i had Fun with bm Hunter before changes. 😅
@TheComebackKids
The shadow priest player in our guild is third top DPS next to the paladin and hunter. They ran M7 just fine. We've seen the numbers and yes, the priest isn't going to make it past M7, but to be honest, the rewards past M7 aren't worth it. 50 gold is a slap in the face.
2 charges Celestial aligments is fcking decent for balance 👌
Oh what? Rogues getting a buff? That's different...
Actually, ret pally is getting a 3% nerf. That doesn't feel like winning.
Yeah it's great they buffed rogues, but why the hell buff assassination more than the two speccs that are behind in every content already!?
Last I saw the pally class tree changes were absolutely horrible. Did something change?
Everybody said disc sucked, now they are second...
Like demo lock but dark ranger is making hunter look really fun
The State of warlock is an absolute joke. All 3 specs complete trash. All Classes get 2 Pages of changes and warlock that Need ACTUAL help get NOTHING
Lock main myself It’s tough
They arnt worse than priest lol
@@DictatorJayy they are you can Check Logs for the Raid and Even in m+ Warlock is just trash Tier
@@instinct3684
Well looking at logs for Mythic+ is a mistake friend. The sample size for people clearing +15s is incredibly skewed and limited to only the “meta”
Most of us aren’t playing at that level and the keys we are doing. Warlocks are most definitely wanted for many things, like doing skips, stones and their powerful mass AoE.
@@MikeyJ232 I am Playing 12-13 key Range and have Problems to deliver the dps. Then comes a 1 Button retri and outdamages me By a mile. This Cant be the case for a Full dps class
What about fire mages ?
They are intentionally manipulating balancing for player retention goals, not balance goals. That much is clear. Considering everything else they do for retention times and $$$, why would they not rotate OP classes. The mage Tower hints at this - that blizzard considers certain specs as belong to the same “family”. Make a spec in the family strong and another spec garbage. That way, the warlock player is more likely to reroll to elemental shaman, for example, and less likely to unsub
As a warlock main, with the current state of m+ etc i'm seriously considering unsubing and returning at the end of expansion just to do the story. I wanna play my class, and not reroll to whatever meta it is at the moment.
@@Tharoffnik.what a shame because in Dragonflight Warlock was so good for the whole Xpac IMO
This is why I have 12 alts. You never know what you’re going to main.
Resto druid once again getting buffed in the wrong direction. The class is becoming more of a regrowth spammer healer than hot class every fucking patch.
Beyond ridiculous that Warlocks and SPs got damn all...
Voidweaver itself is pathetically undertuned where Archon excels on literally every regard, strictly existing for PvP for its 70% slow... so yay, in PvP there's a visual difference from Enemy Rifts! 🙄
Paladin is so insane lol, I get on my Paladin and it really doesn't matter what I do...I just top DPS boards. I get do range and up close damage while moving and instacast. Arcane Mage everyone loves is true, but only on boss damage. The second you need to move you are screwed as unless Missile or Barrage is up then you need to stay still. Warriors still are gear dependent and while ill always love them, its for sure weak AF. My DK I noticed its a near joke of a class to play...just limited brain cortex functionality and you dominate...I can switch off and dominate like with Paladin.
My warlock? Another easy class, Mage so far for me is the "advanced" class but im going to play around more...im do not intend to raid, I have a life so cant dedicate that time so AOE spec over single target may be better for me.
Played since vanilla, this is always how it is and will be, have a bunch of toons ready and play that flavor of the patch class.
622 Mythic Raider Warlock here, reroll is the only way to go unless you wanna be a utility bot and do nothing else
You sound like a BM hunter. If your class isn't in the top 3, you claim its trash.
Not its not even top 6 of ranged dps any spec we suck we offer nothing not to mention with the clunky playstyle of demo rn its just bad design @@mimcduffee86
@@mimcduffee86 you sound like someone that has no clue about the class
@@dreadsou1475 Boohoo, whine more - every class has their spotlight, and warlock as a whole gets invited to raids for existing on top of being above the middle of the pack for a very long time. Look at survival hunter and then whine more , SV has been useful a total of two seasons since legion :)
@@dreadsou1475 im a mythic raider and we currently got 2 warlocks on our team. just play what you enjoy my guy, stop worrying so much about meta. warlocks will rise again, its not like they will be bad for years. i've mained shaman for years and shaman are often in a rough spot, especially ele and resto, and look at them now, popping off for all 3 specs
Where can i get your shirt?
Blizzard to Monk mains: Here’s the coolest looking T2 set. Now quit complaining and shut up.
crackshot outlaw rogue from Dragonflight S3 is litterally the funnyest and most demanding spec ever released since the launch of vanilla i couldnt disagree more with your take
As a rogue, all I can say is:
:D
need more
Why the put supercharged on roll the bones is beyond me
So they buff the dominating specs and nerf the weaker ones... makes sense
Ouchhh
Didn't they nerf the crap out of BM single target damage?
Windwalker needs a rework, fixes and buffs
It's funny beacuse they're pretty good in pvp, both numbers and functionality wise.
@@gaborfabian3967 Maybe because these devs are PVP focused.
Windwalker is totally Fine
@rutmor8657 yeah sure.. top bottom like in the last 10 years is not fine...
@@twohopes8353 good windwalkers are topping in m+ and raid, git gud
DON'T WATCH THE VIDEO AND GET FINAL CONCLUSIONS! CHECK STATISCS PERIODICALLY!
Another week where war fury are getting nerf while they up the frost do somehow
Having time of my life as Unholy DK, never played that spec before.
Also, fuck meta.
finally someone is talking how shit is ww monk. big THANK YOU
maybe the blizzard bullies will see this video and stop living in deniel that the classes are balanced!
and ww monk was and is at tbe button for 10 fk years!
Not a single word about death knights? Is this this some sort of protes?
My ret paladin is very good already and so is my shadow priest. I've been leveling my enhance shammy in delves as well and I can see why they are topping the charts at the moment as she is good at making mobs dissapear quickly, I do find her quite squishy though.
Blood dk needs a buff
@@SomethingOldSomethingNew-ux9ms Really? I got mine to 72 off the isle of Worf delves and it felt okay, but every class does at that level because of all those epics I got from the launch event.
@@SomethingOldSomethingNew-ux9ms
Well that’s one I haven’t heard yet. Blood doesn’t need a buff, it’s as good as it’s going to be after the rework to Death Strike.
What needs a rework is San’Layn, it’s beyond useless compared to Deathbringer.
(620 BDK here and enjoying the spec)
@@MikeyJ232 I thought that as well when I was examining the two trees. Maybe it works better with DPS builds.
I am so glad that I leveled up my paladin. I am shocked out how much damage I can squeak out in lower item level gear than my priest.
It’s really i think the best ret paladin has ever felt
Maybe late wrath was better but its more fun right now
As of now i have 610 ilvl and i can keep up with people who is 15 ilvl more than me , i cant beat them in dps and numbers but i am close to them in terms of dmg and dps
Luckily for me i dont do M+ Content and take my sweet time doing Delves. 😂
Where is feral?
The amount of people crying about thistle tea. They don’t realize that it’s still AN ON USE ability. That it just auto sends when u hit 30 or less energy
going to be great all the times it procs right as you kill enemies and is completely wasted as you move to the next pack
@@daflyingpotato2931 idk how ur hitting 30 energy lol. Shouldn’t be running out as assa at all. Esp bc if something dies u get energy back
Not sure why you think that auto casting abilities is a good thing. While it reduces button bloat it takes all the choice out of the game
Thistle tea being passive is shit, probably going to be a chunky dps loss especially single target.
So they're buffing all the overpowered classes and then throwing all the classes that aren't doing well in the trash, instead of balancing the game so people can enjoy the spec and class that they like. Great
Im playing warlock and im blasting m+ allways on top dps. Warlock is a skill needed class. So im watching warlock pumpers allways.
I think it's a pretty high chance of balance becoming meta and participating in god comp. It's already one of the best ranged DPS (only losing out for Aug) in the high keys. Mages are losing a lot of value with resto shaman and Aug being so damn strong, and with balance becoming meta, Prot warrior can become the best tank for pushing high keys (suppressing the guardian druids). I think the resto shaman, Prot warrior, aug, balance and frost DK maybe the god comp this time around
you forgot Fire mage. Fire is currently one of the strongest ranged dps along with elemental shaman
that is completely untrue. fire is not s tier because of damage. fire is there because it has extremely high survivability. damage is so much lower compared to other classes.the worst performing spec in m+ for mages don't get gaslighted by content creators@@xlightninghawk6360
According to the dream Grove these changes are a nerf in all aspects of the game...
But Balance will always be a loser when it comes to having a fun rotation, Eclipse system is hot garbage 💩
did he just say druid has no good spec...guardian might be the best and easiest tank atm
thank you! crackshot is such mind numbing garbage man. its like a slot machine simulator. and nothing else. and its 2 slots. first slot is getting the god roll 5 buff and then keep it rolling and second slot is subterfuge window and getting 5+ pts per crackshot proc. its so annoying, just bring combat back as a 4th spec for rogue and give priests a kick.
BM FTW
Dude what
Have you not played any pvp? Feral is literally the best class in the game rn
Well this doesn’t take into account pvp
whole list is based on m+ and raiding lol, did u watch the video?
Sky, did you quit SoD?
Lmfao yes a very long time ago, that game is packed
So the later phases aren’t any good? I was going to get back into playing WoW again (90s Gym) but was wondering which is good. The war within or SoD.
Warlocks have been pretty much at the top for last 20 years, now they know what it feels to be at the bottom for once
You didn’t play any Dragonflight I take it
Fine to feel that way, but for classes with 3 dps specs it's nice when at least one of them is viable
Poor priest, RIP
hunter is pointless just going to fall over in M plus
Bro blizzard is trolling monks like wtf no ability in any game,that has ppl running around with roughly 10 million health, should hit for 3000 lmao ps feral is dominating pvp i feel like you been living under a rock not knowing that good vid otherwise tho
*cries in devastation evoker and feral druid main*
Thank god I don’t gotta sit here watching this trash content creator , definitely buy far better ones 💯
Lmaoo ok
as a warlock main...Oof
feral druid is broken in pvp right now. like absolutely broken.
No it's not. Frost mages do great against ferals. Constantly slows and every cc in the game except tor rogue poisons.
Resto shaman might get nerfed on s2
thats still 5 months until, maybe 4
Ah yes, the wheel chair class needing yet another re work. Jokedins 🤡
i love my shaman so much! i am currently elemental with ilvl 610 and pulling over 1.3 million aoe dps.
I can see a lot of anti-hunters crying in pvp for hunters to be nerfed again. Alot of these players should STFU and learn to play.
I think hunters are fine
The amount of lamentation in 5he comments is hilarious. You guys know meta doesn't matter right.?
Better nerf warrior.
Bro said druids arent having any success in any content lol. Yeah, this channel is way off base. Just a pve opinion page. Great voice, seems like he means well, but not based.
Lmaoo crazy he’s saying pally is dominating which they aren’t and most of the players playing them suck from my experience. And then say Druid tank needs help when they are the 2nd best tank in the game. Boomkin is on the rise as well in m+. R Druid is close to being decent too needs a lil love though.
Except Ret pally is one of the best dps right now in m+ and raid on top of being tanky as fuck and one of the easiest specs to play...Holy Pally is also a really strong healer...so what are you talking about?
@@SkrimpKing one of the best is not dominating. Frost dk, enhancement shaman and rogue are dominating for melee. Let’s not begin with Mages, Aug evokers, Spriest and Boomkins are the more favorable pick for a push group. Being 4th best isn’t dominating. Worst tank spec in the game along side BrM. And Holy is fine. Still think RSham and Disc are better. So let’s back up what are you talking about? I personally main a rsham and I will never opt to invite a ret into the group unless it’s someone I know. Majority of them are very bad from my experience.
"Numbers just simply aren't there..." Because they don't get a chance! No invites, people only want the meta = mostly players with no exp with the class trying to cheese the game! I prefer a great "bad spec" player then those curious ones!
No not because they don’t get a chance at the top level those classes aren’t performing great
@@TheComebackKids WW monks actually perform really well in raids and keystones. They also bring alot of utility. Majority of the time I'm top 5 in raid on most bosses and when it comes to cleaving bosses I top the charts. Same with keys. Tons of cleave in there. In my keys I'm usually number 1 on the charts. Alot of times you won't see big numbers on most of your pulls but if you check the overall you'll see that we have good sustain and burst to keep our numbers up. We can also pop off on ST if everything lines up good. Sure the meta classes can do more but they also have to perform just as well as me if they wanna out dps me lol
Mate, I wont argue if you are right with what youre saying or not. But isn't one comment enough? Despite the fact that you are somewhat upset(?) or something from what I see, you're acting like the kid who always has to interrupt the big one to fetch a useless comment into the Speech. --- Also, from what perspective are you talking btw. ? My Hunter is at 2,5k rio now, pugs only(where usually all my alts sit), yeah it takes some time to get invited, but have you seen the vast blow of people signing up for keys? If its a popular key you have usually 20-30 dd's in 1-2minutes in the 8+'s Key Levels. And I'm and altoholic playing literally everything being meta or not. I'm never struggling to get going, yeah you wont get insta-invites, but youll get them eventually. DPS-Wise, if you look at Raw Numbers (cause literally every spec has blasters who are at around 3k rio) on mythicstats.com for example, its pretty much as even as it has ever been IMO.
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Dang you’re really coming for me right now
feral pleasssssssssssss
Do some proper research. Guardian druid is literally the best tank right now. Its rotation is badly designed but it's strong as hell.
you are wrong. Rogue changes are terrible, sub is going to be erased from the arena because of the deletion of shadowy dust.
Rets getting a 3% nerf not buff
Nothing about mages?
Inaccurate video just his opinion does not reflect the actual game.
Wait…. An opinion based video has Opinions in it. Damn you got me
@@TheComebackKids 😆
i main ww monk and i guarantee the class is pute garbage when it comes to dps.
and the top classes will do allot more dps even with allot lower ilvl
@@twohopes8353 no ww is not garbage its good in mythic+ and so is mw. he says druid is average and below, bear is no.2 tank in mythic + and good in raid. boomy is s tier mythic+. feral is s tier pvp druid not average......
Same info over and over again just for views ...
And you commented on it 👍.
lol and you engaged it.