The Tories Lose Two More By-Elections
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Sunak and the Conservatives have suffered another by-election blow as Labour have overturned two big majorities and the Reform party eats into their vote share. So in this video, we'll explain what's happened and what this means for the general election.
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As an American, I spat out my coffee when I found out the MP who committed sexual assault was named “Peter BONE.” Kind of like how New York had a mayoral candidate named Anthony Weiner who also had a sexual scandal.
😂😂😂
Chris Pincher
Why are they called Tories?
As a political term, Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, meaning "outlaw", "robber", since outlaws,! Robbing the poor, for tax cuts for the rich! (Striped military!) Substandard serviced, Post Office? 😮
Incredible results for Labour and abysmal ones for the Tories. Rishi’s recession is hurting a lot of voters and they’re tired of 14 years of Tory failures in government
So we can have labour failures in government.
Labour benefiting greatly from Rishi turning off 70% of conservative leaning voters.
@@BagelBoy97exactly Labour and conservative are two sides of the same coin
@@BagelBoy97 it'll be better to just keep quiet than post comments that expose the hurt you're feeling from the by-election results. I know it's a coping mechanism and provides a moment of respite from the discomfort you feel but, honestly, the more you post the more hurt you look.
@@BagelBoy97 Last time labour was in charge everything wasn't so bloody expensive, didn't have to wait a few months to see a gp, dentist took nhs clients, everything's gotten *WORSE* with the tories!
After 14 years I believe the British public have had enough of the Tories.
Getting squeezed from the right and left. They've got nowhere to go, will be interesting to see how the election goes whenever this happens
After 30 years I believe the British public have had enough of the globalist traitors in westminster.
They not really being squeezed from the left with Keir Starmer in charge. He hasn't particularly indicated that he would undo any of the tories bad decisions. It seems more like Labour will become the new tories as the current tory party ceases to exist due to infighting and extremism
I have been a life time supporter of Tories. But I'm appalled with the last 10 years. Cameron vote for Scottish independence and leaving EU. The non sensible policies, the blatant corruption and terrible spending during Covid. They are now left of new labour.
Poor UK going backwards with few options. Yes, the world is in a bad place. Tories have made it worse for UK than it needed
The Tories are aiming for a May 2nd election.
Imo, any party that's been in for more then 2 terms gets complacent and starts doing thing that increases there turnout over helping the county
He is so bad, Liz Truss is even lauching a new “popular” movement 😂😂😂
Liz Truss is utterly deluded ... but then she always has been and they made her PM ...
Who is still voting for the Tories?? My god haven’t people seen enough chaos and misery!!!!!
I've met a few, they are similar to Labour voters, detached from politics/news, aren't really paying attention, scared if they don't vote for their party the other will get in.
Those of us who where grown ups the last time Labour were in Government can still remember the level of their incompetence.
This government has actually made the Blair/Brown administration’s look good. 5 different prime ministers in 6 years. What a mess.
@@jjefferyworboys8138the last time Labour were in power, I still had a NHS dentist. I had more disposable income year on year. I had better public services. I could travel to the EU as I wished. I felt optimistic about the future. And yes, I’m a grown up.
The Tories ripped all that apart. I absolutely despair at what a damaged, broken, depressed mess of a country I now live in paying more taxes than ever.
Flogging would be too good for what the Tories have done to this country
@@Redsleather he's just a sycophant. No point in engaging.
Rishi has no rizz on god
rizzless too wack
On my momma
blud has not been mewing at all
blud's got negative canthal tilt
🤓
while reforms vote share looks impressively close to their national polling, you have to take into consideration that national polls average out across all constituencies. So there will be some places where no one votes reform, some places where lots of people vote reform, and the average ends up around 10%. That means that in leave voting, rural, traditionally conservative, low diversity areas you would expect reform to achieve vote shares well above 10%, in the region of 15%+, just as in diverse remain voting inner cities you'd expect them to get votes in the low single digit percents. So the fact they only got around their national average in by elections in comfortable seats for them doesn't actually suggest they are doing all that well. If in the general election they get 13% of the vote share in all leave voting areas, and they get close to nothing in the other half of the country, their national vote share will not reach 10%
ukip got 0 mps with 10% of the vote in 2015 i think
the joys of FPTP
If the votes that add up to the 10%, or whatever Reform gets, are coming from second-place or third-place candidates, it's all for naught.
Unless there's a real winning chance in any constituency, these votes are worthless.
The Tory's are done Sunak Truss Johnson there all the same
@im_Carlisle correct
@@SenanHedderman Lmao When I was your age, I used to watch fortnite videos.
Fair play fella, never too young to get into politics.
@@HistoryBuff_0 i was wondering about how cool mario oddesey would be, now i'm almost done with secondary
@@THTB_lol My mama wouldn't buy me a switch 😭 and it was more expensive in france 350€.
Ive never experienced a labour goverment so id love to see what differences could be made with them
Be careful what you vote for, last time we got a war on outright lies that still affect us today oh and the child rape squad grooming gangs that are still being exposed. Bad differences are just that.
Oh dear..
What ashame..!
Conservatives: Not. Even. Once.
Bye bye Sunak ,it's all gone wrong for you and you only have yourself to blame ,people remember what your party has done and will not forget
I’m not voting for any foreign politicians & that goes for Scotland too . Scottish English Welsh & Irish everyone else out !!!
Ahh no, i dont want labour in charge
So they want to put Keir Starmer aka Klaus Schwab as PM ?.😂😂
Spotted the QHead.
@@paulgibbon5991 Ok, Mr Spotter!!.👍🏼😂
What's most interesting is the raw voting numbers compared with 2019. It seems Labour didn't actually gain new votes (indeed they had fewer voters), but that many 2019 Tory voters just stayed home rather than vote for anyone. I wish there was an explicit "None of the above" option on the ballot, because I suspect it would confirm my hypothesis that voter dissatisfaction with all of the parties is at an all-time high.
Nice try, mate, spin, spin, spin. The Tories were crushed, and Labour is going to romp to a huge victory whenever the Tory cowards decide to call an election.
@@knightsnight5929 lol how did you manage to confused "none of the above" support for Tory spin?
Nominative determinism
Sunak is definitely gonna get pressured to resign soon
So bone still gets his full pension
This sort of ebb and flow is really good for everyone. If you enjoy moderate politics, then this is good for you, even if you're conservative. The reason being is that the longer a party is in power, the more extreme their policies start to become, so by losing, the moderates usually win over.
It would be good if it was an actual ebb and flow and not just a slide to the left at different speeds.
Skidmore is an arse. He could have resigned the whip and stayed on as an independent or joined the Greens or GlibDuns till the GE and saved the public expense.
Conservative should stand down in the next general election.
Skidmore😂
Skid mark Sunak 😂
So Bone was accused of Bullying and Boning?
Amazing for Israel and the US, not so good for UK citizens.
Labour winning by default is kinda sad really, considering the state they're in rn.
True,but then again they would have a chance to prove themselves.
I guess Peter should have had better control over his Bone.
hmmmm what to do when the voting public seems to be going more left...
oh i know! lets move the conservative party FAR to the right, that will get more voters to join us...
Bad news for prime minister sunak. Maybe the brits don't want an indian prime minister?😢
Nobody is going to go out and vote for Rishi
Makes you wonder if he’ll even vote for himself, given how much he wants to be in California
It IS his girlfriend
Can't help but wonder if Peter Bone actually gets prosecuted for his crimes.
Behave mate. Of course he won't.
Crimes?
Allegedly committed action…..
Conservative voters stayed at home the general the result might be completely different
What people have voted now isn't important. Sadly what they have been voting for the past 14 years is what counts. Our country is ruined.
The discussion seems to have moved from will the Tories loose to how badly will they loose to how big of a landslide will it be
Then the UK is going the right way
Is this what it's like for Europeans every time America has elections because god damn is this funny
Does saying uptick make you feel cool?
Where was the link for Nehula?
It not about sunak it about the compete lack of common sense and ignoring the public on illegal immigrants the and Islamic Muslim take over
Why are the Tories even trying?
@@malcky630 o:
Thanks! :D
Bye bye 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i find it strange that secular talk videos get linked to your page then to more of your content but it never auto plays a 2nd secular talk video. so yeah stopped 2sec in not your fault but yeah werid
Why are all the MP's accused of SA so comically named chris "Pincher" , Peter "Bone" I mean if it carries on like this you'll just need to look at there name and know lol
Maybe its in the blood, some peoples families names in Britain are from what they were associated with.
And the worst of them all is of course named Johnson 😂
Waiting to hear about someone named John Harasser or something like that.
@@lokensicarius9347 a family of pinchers and boners? 😂
@@DuxSupremus or the famous John Hardcock, founding father of the US
At this rate we may as well see a Labour government before the general election; Most hilarious
It's hilarious until you realise you'll have to live under it.
@@MrNPCStarmer is apalling, but far less shite than the Tories.
@@MrNPC It's been like living under a Labour government for the past 14 years.That's the problem.
@@jonsmith5058how is Starmer bad. The previous leader allowed Johnson to take a huge majority.
@@daniel44634 how is he bad?
Have you not been paying attention?
He’s a spineless slimeball who says whats convinient.
He’s sold out the party to rich bankers, and made it clear he favours their bonuses over working people.
He’s giving up on Green pledges, he refuses to promise to repeal the draconion protest laws stating they’ll be ‘too busy’.
He has a disgusting support of Israel, excusing their genocide and trying to threaten his party into doing the same.
Speaking of threats, the number of people he bans from the party unless they say exactly what he wants is honestly scary.
I could go on. Tell me, whats good about him?
And dont pretend he’s beating the Tories. You arent winning a race if the competition has fallen over, shit themselves and started flailing on the floor. Anyone could beat the Tories at this point.
bristol resident here! kingswood is a really interesting constituency as it’s incredibly suburban and could indicate mood across a lot of outer city suburbs. most of the coverage hasn’t highlighted the fact that kingswood is effectively an outer suburb of bristol. the fact it’s in south glos is very much a technicality of brown belt development, and there’s no dividing line between bristol and south glos (pictures of the border cutting between random streets in bristol are quite comical). lots of the country is made up of people who live in outer suburbs and commuter towns for large urban centres. the urban centres overwhelmingly go labour, but if labour are also catching the outer suburbs (which often are more likely to swing), this is very interesting and indicative of the polling that indicates a tory wipeout.
I live in the kingswood constituency and voted labour on Thursday. Agree with a lot of this and can also add that it's a very varied place, with half of the consitituency being low income and the other half being the epitome of 'white suburban middle/upper middle class' (in places like Emersons Green where I live for example). It will be interesting to see what happens when this seat no longer exists and we're split in half, the more traditionally higher income neighbourhoods are going into filton and bradley stoke (also currently tory) and I believe kingswood itself is going into a new Bristol East seat???? Writing seems on the wall now for the tories anyway!
@@jennybacon2429 fingers crossed they see sense as they will get casino economics, jobs lost, stealth taxes, mass immigration WITH LABOUR.
@@jennybacon2429I've been to Kingswood a few times, live outside of of Bath. Had no idea KW had much middle class to be honest. That's interesting. Maybe you are both right, could be typical of "middle England" let's see
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@rustynail1194 Kingswood itself doesn't have a big middle class population, but the constituency has a much wider area than just the one neighbourhood, it also includes Staple Hill, Mangotsfield, Emersons Green, Lyde Green, Warmley, Longwell Green and Bitton. Incredibly varied population!
@@jennybacon2429 haha fair play, we forget that constituencies aren't necessarily confined to one area. Sadly when I moved outside of Bath I was out in Rees Smugg's constituency! Couldn't believe he was my MP 10 years ago, he was quite well unknown at the time. I knew from his beliefs I wouldn't like the bloke 😂
If only these guys could just leave government tomorrow, it’s clear nobody would mind 💀
That might mean they lose less seats, so I'm not sure it's worth the cost"
I think Sunak's father-in-law would mind. He hasn't got his full profit from Rishi's UK winter sale.
Ah, but Rishi Sunak says the British public want the government to get on with governing, and not have a general election.
I want 2 tax cutting budgets first and the icing on the cake would be a rise in inflation and interest rates remaining at their current level for as long as possible.
@@L-po8rx "Rishi Sunak says the British public want the government to get on with governing, and not have a general election"
It is abundantly clear that Rishi is wrong. Unfortunately, the Tories are not actually interested in the will of the people, and have been, beyond using it as a convenient sound bite.
"Rumoured as being his girlfriend" it wasn't rumoured, it was reported as if fact, that's quite different Ben
He probably phrased it like that for legal reasons
@@kstxevolution9642 Yep the "allegedly" clause
@@kstxevolution9642 But that does not explain why every other news source (C4, Mail, BBC etc) is happy to call her his girlfriend
@@InfernalPasquale yeah It does. Kind of. I bet the legal budget for those places is vastly bigger than this channel
@@kstxevolution9642 But there is video of her saying she is his partner, and of the two them holding hands. You can't be sued for libel when there is such weight of evidence to the contrary...
Being called Peter "bone" didn't help him
he didnt have a single bad bone in his body
@@Rose.Of.Hizakitrue the offending organ is actually a muscle
@@kieranbrady1240 r/whoosh
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki no I got your joke, I was making another joke in response to your joke which means the woosh is on you 🤭
he certainly captured the canine vote.
Officially entered Rishession.
lmaooo xD
A piece on Reform UK and their stance heading up to the next election would be interesting! Not a fan of them, but they are gaining national significance.
I'd be interesting in knowing why you're not a fan of Reform UK? Is it specific policies that they want to enact? Their general political stance? Im genuinely interested!
@@CommonWealthSnowI was watching their TH-cam video and they were having a go at every minority but then it comes to Israel genocide, they tried to say it was racist to say such a thing. That put me off from the party because that indicates they are not as ‘free’ as they claim since Israel government has an influence on them. Not to mention this will create a new sense of ‘racism’ where you can’t say anything negative about countries that are committing bad acts such as India or Saudi Arabia since you will be labelled as racist. Freedom of speech is really important and they are not fighting for that but claim to
Nothing to do with being a fan , its all we can do to save this country! the best that is available.
So you love these migrants invading our country?
Remove the immigration issue and you aren't left with much.
I think this says more about the serious dissatisfaction with the Tories than it necessarily does about Labour popularity.
Odds are Starmer will win a huge majority without really having to do anything
@@tobos8909 agreed the public dissatisfaction with the Toris is so high, you could canvas a lettuce against them and win 400 seats.
Amen... They don't have a democratic vote in the UK, just a veto over which colour of red or blue neolib goon they want least.
Reform did a fair amount of the heavy lifting too.
@@Jim90117 if you look at the polling numbers for other parties and the voter turnout, then that victory for Labour isn’t necessarily as clear.
lol, if you add them together they beat Labour yeah, but that's not how it works. Reform isn't exclusively ex-Torys or people willing to vote Tory at a push. It's like saying you could add Lib Dems to Labour. Just dropping Moggs stupid cope quote and shuffling on without criticism isn't great.
What I thought as soon as I heard it, it’s a very lofty assumption. But I think the point is that the Tories will use this line of rhetoric to push rishi further right rather than a serious point
@@jonathanamadio-heal494Well that's exactly what Reform and the people who backed it want.
Only a fool would be surprised if Reform doesn't roll back on their stated aim of fielding a candidate in every constituency, they're only standing to send the other parties a message that they can disrupt the status quo (not a bad thing) if they don't dance to the tune of a mob if extreme right wing economic libertarians. (a very bad thing for the vast majority)
We've seen it before when UKIP and the Brexit party became a threat to the Conservatives, but stood down candidates in predicted/target Tory seats.
I can understand why people may vote for Labour, but aaaa....just gona remind people of a particular individual whos an MP for Labour
Diane Abbott....... jesus christ doesnt matter where we look in British politics, we are fucked whome ever is voted in
If you think Diane Abbot is the worst English politician, I have a bridge to sell you. Maybe a Brexit too while your at it. I'm sorry, but Diane Abbot? Worst UK politician? Really? Come on mate, get your head out of the Tabloids. She has never been in any position of power in the UK. She's just a boogeyman for the Tabloids. Looks like it worked a treat with you as well. Got you believing she is the boogeyman. Propaganda works on lads like you it seems.
At least Skidmore had a spine & followed through, all the grown-ups talk about 'going green' yet do very little to help.
It's possible he had other reasons for leaving office and wanted to go out with grace rather than on the heels of something more scandalous, but it's not impossible for a Conservative to follow their principles either, just less likely given their members usual tactics.
right because leaving parliament, the only place he can really make a difference, is helping. this whole resignation culture really baffles me
Tories are done for. It's WORSE than in 1997, when they were similarly DONE FOR. Sir Keir is unspiriing, but certainly a shoe-in to be PM.
We will notice little change. The tories are hard left and Labour will be extreme left.
@@DavidRenwick-t1ewhat planet are you from? The Tories are definitely conservative (and have been moving towards the far right over the past decade) and Labor is largely Neo-Liberal (center right). What is your definition of right then? Like do you legitimately think that women having the right to vote is a "leftist agenda"? Do you disapprove of interracial marriage and think Apartheid was a good idea? Do you think poor children should return to the factories? You are insane.
@@DavidRenwick-t1eJesus Christ you think the Tories are hard left?! I shudder to think what you see as right wing.
@@DavidRenwick-t1eokay tories are very much right wing and reform is far right. I''m left wing personally and I'd bearly even call a labour left wing they are left central in my opinion but the greens are too far left if you ask me
@@HeroFromTheSky1 Since when was uncontrolled immigration, extreme wokery and zero law and order right wing? Maybe in your world it is but not in mine.
labour arent winning. Its just the tories are losing. Thats not labour winning.
You love to see it
Need a more right wing Government to take on Putin.
@@RoyalBeef11Nobody needs more right-wing governments.
@@RoyalBeef11nah far right governments love fascists
@@krisdaschwab912 Yes we do. Desperately.
@@SubjectiveFunnynah… we dont
Sunak claims everything is going according to the plan 😂
The country goes even further down the pan under him, more like
6:56 this is a stupid argument to make though because if you add the Labour, Lib Dem and green votes together to get a “progressive vote” they beat this combined Tory and Reform vote… and the fact is that we use a crappy electoral system that the Tories support so they’re just going to have to put up with it.
It shouldn't be forgotten that PR allowed the austrian painter into power.
@@MrNPC And FPTP kept the Tories in power, what's your point?
@@gregoryfenn1462fptp keeps Labour in power too, so what's your point if you can't even get it right? Labour had the biggest majority on the slimmest share of the popular vote ever (Blairs last term).
Should they all merge into one party and call themselves the Progressive Party,then?
@@0w784g exactly… the system is unfair for parties like the Lib Dems, Greens and Reform who… shockingly to some people have voters!
If rishi really cares about the uk he'd resign
That would only harm the uk, the beat thing he could to for the county and to save his legacy would be to have a snap election
@lunkycultist5519 you mean so labour get in which would harm the country far worse a new leader has more chance of winning
If rishi had a snap election labour would win but if they changed leader they'd have a chance of winning even if it was a slim one
Hahahahahahahaha bye bye Tories
Rest in p155
We haven't had a conservative government in more than 30 years.
@@DavidRenwick-t1eno, since 2010 we have endured an even worse one. No hiding their incompetence, no end to their delusions and lies, policies only made to make themselves and their cronies richer, a more rapid decline in public services, the NHS and education, infrastructure collapsing, taxes up over 20 times, unable to tackle inflation, recessions, stagnant economy, poverty at record highs… and Brexit. 5 failed, miserable, self-serving PMs.
Vote Tory? I’d rather saw off my own arm
@@DavidRenwick-t1e
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
@@bababababababa6124You mean P45.
9 by elections under this clown what does that tell you
38% turnout is kind of sad
People: *not bothered to go out and vote*
Also people: “why does our government suck”
Just goes to show how alienating and shit FPTP is, we definitely need electoral reform so people feel their vote matters.
People will get the chance to vote at the end of the year anyway so many are content waiting for then.
It’s kind of average for by-elections.
@@nealrigga6969Honestly, if you refuse to vote, you don’t have a right to complain about the government.
Sounds like Labour's real problem is one of capacity rather than complacency. With every seat now a marginal, do Labour have enough activists to campaign in each one, and more importantly let them know that the seat is winnable?
They also have FAR fewer activists than they used to, since they spent the last 5 years treating their own members and supporters like shit.
Labours real problem was exposed from and after its last term in office, VOTE LABOUR ,,,,, GET GROOMING GANGS. I cant see their activists putting any kind of spin on that.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nnFor better or worse, Sunak wants to shape Labour into something that can win elections. The rejection of Corbyn by the electorate sent a message to Labour about what works and what doesn't, so I can understand the logic.
How can you fix a problem if you can't accept you have one! Rishi keeps telling us how well they're doing and seemed happy with the recent battering the Tories just received!
It boggles my mind how anyone could claim that people vote LEFT because the right is not far right enough and not be ridiculed into oblivion.
I imagine it would be because the logic of "going further to the right will actually solve the problems that are causing people to move left in the first place" isn't completely dysfunctional. If the ruling party stops being bad, people have less incentive to vote against it.
I think you are experiencing what most people call “difference in opinion” its quite common don’t get excited
Wellingborough: 13844 (2024 By-elec Lab vote) 13,737 (2019 GE Lab vote). Labour only added 107 votes since last general election. Kingswood: 11,176 (2024 By-elec Lab vote) 16,492 (2019 GE Lab vote). Labour lost 5,316 since last general election. Massive media win for Labour but no extra love from the voters.
Now do the Tory vote including 2015, 17, 19, and factor in turnout at a by election.
sure, how will you pay me for the research?@@colinbaker3916
reading 'reform uk' policies - their climate change approach is basically, why bother even trying to fix it, we should just deal with it.
I expected nothing and I'm still let down
Surely planning to deal with the consequences of something you can't prevent is prudent ? Climate change is happening whether the UK has fully transitioned to green energy or not. Moral grandstanding is not going to change the industrial policies of the rest of the planet.
@@tomtimtomtim spot on and well said
People have allowed themselves to be truly brainwashed by " the big lie"
They'll all be safe in their second homes in the mountains while the peasants drown. The working class are their own worst enemy.
Hey just curious what specifically do you mean by fix it? I was just rechecking and the UK's global CO² emissions is 1.025% on average since 2015. While at the same time having high energy prices, wouldn't you prefer the UK to rely less on importing for our energy needs to ease the cost burden on working people?
The only thing "historic" about it was the pathetic turnout.
Labour didn't win, the Tories lost it and the LibDems lost their deposit.
Sooooo...... Labour won?
@@malcky630 Still won though
I think the problem when you only look at the percentages, and not the raw voter numbers, you only get half the picture of what’s actually going on.
You are not seeing Labour “lead” in the polls, you are seeing the Tory’s completely imploding. Tory’s voters are just refusing to vote.
Electorally it makes no difference, but for the next few elections it’s very significant, it also will have a huge baring on Labour’s term in office. You can expect all out civil war to play out in year 2 of Starmer’s premiership - the only unifying vision the party holds is to gain power, once power is gained, there’s nothing left to unify. A full on factional battle will occur for the party machine. IMHO
they weren't so much Labour victories as Tory defeats. the Tory voters stayed home or voted Reform
So a bit like how some remainers stayed at home then because they thought leave had no chance?
Couldnt have happened to a more corrupt bunch of criminals, shame Labour aren't much better tho.
I just dont feel like I really trust or believe either side. I think tories are worse for the public, but Labour hardly fills me with hope for any positive change and wouldnt be surprise if kier furthered austerity policies which to clarify, are absolutely a *choice* and evidences to not be smart ones.
The Tories mishandled austerity so it went on for years instead of being a short,sharp (but admittedly painful) correction. But what choice will Labour have? Where's trhe money going to come from if both debt and taxes are (mostly because of Covid) already sky high?
@@rjjcms1 If only there were some rich Oxford Chums around who badly need more tax in their lives.
@@paulgibbon5991True. I'm fine with them being taxed more,but I think the vast majority of the public has a big enough burden on their backs already.
Anyone else have a little chuckle about Bone being suspended for sexual misconduct?
You might say he's bad to the...
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...I'll get my coat.
@@paulgibbon5991 😂😂😂
This is devestating for the tories, but tory leadership is right that these by elections aren't representative for an election. I thinkt he tories are garbage but they aren't wrong in saying that mostly people that wanted to punish the government voted. Both the center and left voted Labour, while the right voted Brexit.
The Tories will also face difficulties. Pivoting to the center will make them look incompetent and without ideals; pivoting to Brexit makes them attackable by Labour saying they don't work for the common people and pivot to the ideas of a right-wing rich guy.
Could you imagine how well Labour would be doing if they actually offered a real vision for the country and didn’t U turn 10 mins after every policy announcement
The Labour Party are just like Cameron era Tories... They have Tory policies. Centrist ones.
Let's so how many promises this lady keeps.
Comunists trying to "make it right" be like: ☠️☠️☠️
@@misterlinux9290 what? Communists? What the fuck are you talking about?
@@lewischerry3552 You vote for a socialist government, they then take control and further eradicate your rights to self determination, Out of this loss of rights is freedom of speech and voter criteria. You then lose the opposition, you are then under communism. Its been done over and over. OH and we have only lost 100 million souls to that particular political ideology. But I am sure you think they can get it right next time
@@lewischerry3552they are just another educationally challenged muppet.
Not British but this is good news!
The funny part is nothing will get better under labour
When tories lose, society wins!!!
Only your society, the unambitious, work shy, lazy, welfare state spongers.
Every time a Tory gets voted out and Angel gets it's wings.
i honestly think labour might get a super majroity of 70%+ i honestly dont see a way were the torrys are in a place were they have ANY power at all
📝 Summary of Key Points:
📌 The UK held two byelections in Wellingborough and Kingswood, resulting in historic Labour victories, posing challenges for the Tories and Rishi Sunak.
🧐 Wellingborough's byelection was triggered by a sexual misconduct investigation into former Tory MP Peter Bone, while Kingswood's byelection was caused by Conservative MP Chris Skidmore's resignation over environmental concerns.
💡 Additional Insights and Observations:
💬 The significant swings towards Labour in both constituencies, especially in Wellingborough, indicate a shift in voter sentiment.
📊 The decline in Tory vote share and the rise of Reform UK's support in both byelections highlight challenges for the Conservatives.
🌐 The impact of these byelections on party unity and the upcoming general election is substantial, with implications for both Labour and the Tories.
📣 Concluding Remarks:
The recent byelections in Wellingborough and Kingswood have delivered significant victories for Labour, signaling potential trouble for the Tories and Rishi Sunak. The swings in voter support, coupled with the rise of Reform UK, underscore the shifting political landscape in the UK, setting the stage for a challenging general election ahead.
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Reform should have done better as smaller parties do better in by elections than general elections and they had a candidate in Wellingborough with a degree of name recognition whilst being able to focus more resources in two particular seats. They needed to considerably out perform their polling to make it believable
Reform right-wing? Far-right more like.
as opposed to the extremist radical neo liberal marxist left wing, see its easy to add unfounded labels.
@@marksavage1108All you have to do is read reforms manifesto to know they're far-right, have you read it? I have.
It seems like Rishi is clinging on to power and praying for a Labour scandal to completely destroy there credibility. His chances of turning it all around before May are slim to none.
Why May, Oct/Nov is far more realistic. Two tax cutting budgets due before an election leaving Labour absolutely nothing.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 Next tax cutting event would be the Autumn Statement in November,....so yes go for a January GE.
By then, interest rates tumbling with inflation at 2%....and growth 2%.
At 4:00 you say this represents a 37.6% decline in vote share for the tories
This is incorrect, it's a 37.6% percentage POINTS decrease, which is different, and in this case represents far, far more than a 37.6% decrease - on the graph it appears to be more like a ~60% decrease
Maybe get back on those stats courses on skillshare?
I feel kinda bad for Rishi he's trying to clean up a huge messed caused liz truss who destroyed all trust in Tories and their government in matter of few weeks. But some blame can put on Rishi himself he hasn't turned out the small boats, he hasn't passed any bills that would help the economy and slow down growth and cancelling high speed rail projects is a bad look on him.
Good thing Starmer Said that, the only thing in the way to a Labour Government at this point is themselves
Great news!
I think the complacency issue could be solved by leaning into, rather than out of, Labour's success. Voters may want to erase the Conservatives from relevance.
i rather go back in 2010 with no recession no high inflation
I wouldn't, my income is so much greater now.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 You're in a minority. In real terms, most people are worse off.
Am I the only person who thinks that Starmer won't negotiate Breenter because he doesn't want to deal with the political fallout of the terms he'd need to accept, and as a consequence Britain's possible negotiating terms will get ever worse until Britain's yesterday news?
Well none of the main parties are talking about rejoining the EU, and realistically that kind of conversation will be at least ten years down the line
Well my own opinion is that it's too soon for both the EU and UK to work on an official treaty.
From the EU's part they'll want to see support from both main parties, and with Reform (or rather the money behind Reform) still influencing the Tories from the back seat...
The British political landscape needs more coherence, and that cohesion applies just as much to the general public as much as it does within both European and British political spheres.
And let's not forget that any one of the EU 27 can veto our entry - even the problem children such as Hungary.
I've no doubt Starmer will be attempting to gain further agreements with the EU and even Sunak surprised many by ignoring the swivel eyed loonies on Northern Ireland, so the EU aren't entirely inflexible when it comes to dealing with post Brexit arrangements.
As to what can be gained outside the existing trade and cooperation agreement, I don't know.
Starmer says he is ruling out both the single market and any customs union during his leadership, but it's not as if Starmer hasn't been known to perform the odd U-turn!
I'd love to start buying and selling friction free with Europe again, but I think it's going to be a decade before both political and public will drive us together.
It's worth considering that, even if we aren't interested in the economic side of things, we might need to consider alternative defence co-operation arrangements if Trump wins. NATO was already a very cobbled-together beast before Trump outright said he'd alter the terms of Article 4, and it is increasingly looking like even if he doesn't get into power this year policy in the US is becoming increasingly isolationist, at least on the right, so closer ties to Europe are looking like a gradual inevitability.
To be honest the EU isnt likely to let the UK back in for a at least a decade or two. What Starmer could negotiate is joining the EFTA to get better trade access at the expense of "sovereignty" and whatever demands individual countries want to make of the UK. In regards to EFTA, that would at the very least mean giving huge concessions on fishing and oil rights to Iceland and Norway. It is also likely that key EU states will have specific demands (Ireland might ask for Rockall, Hungary might ask for extortion money, Poland might ask for more tanks). While I think that sacrificing the fishing industry is a small price to pay for EFTA membership, it will be a bit of a tough sell in some marginal ridings.
Give it a parliamentary term where the problems caused by Brexit can be openly blamed on Brexit and the conservatives, then suspect there will be open dialogue about rejoining.
I’m an American and I hope y’all in the UK vote out Sunak! In fact, I hope every country in the anglosphere (US, Canada, Australia) vote out our corrupt incompetent governments!
Yes, America will vote out Biden and bring back MAGA 2.0. USA🇺🇸🦅
What’s next for Sunak should be a visit to King Charles III to ask him to dissolve Parliament for a general election. This pitiful hanging on by ole Rishi is starting to wear thin.
Reform UK is claiming some sort of breakthrough. This IMHO ,was a poor result for Reform . UKip gained 20 percent in by-elections. When you consider both constituencies were Leave voting,it's not great .
A day after the Rishession is reported.
Seems like the people realize that voting conservative is voting against your interest! Time for some social inputs to manage the UK to more than financial values
Usually we brits like to support the underdogs... but not this time!
Well some did as the Reform Party showed
Underdogs, yes. Dogs going under, no.
That shameless man isn't going to resign till he's kicked out by the voters.
Its not a rumour that the candidae was Peter Bones girlfriend, she is Bones girlfriend