Those 2 had some of my all time favorite promos together, Hurricane was the only one back then who gave it back to the Rock that well & it was so cool & funny to see the Rock be the butt of the jokes like that
@Bru Rred What's wrong in appreciating someone's talent? Besides if the so called heroes in the community come out and talk to the people in the community every once in a while instead of being power hungry controlling psychopaths then a lot of people will look at the so called heroes as simply heroes..
I loved it. This is so sad, I LOVE HBK, he is definitely my favorite worker of all time, and even I met him once, when I was working at the DCU center, and we got to eat backstage in the same area that the wrestlers ate, I got to sit next to Big Show, HHH, Fit Finley, Gail Kim came through, and Big Show made an Asian Vagina Joke, it was awesome, but HBK was a Wicked dick, I wasn't like running over to meet him because I didn't want to get fired, But I thought maybe it was a bad night for him or something. But there are so many stories like this,when there's smoke there's fire, and here there is a forest fire unfortunately
@@sc30002001 That's all crap. Buff was part of MANY WCW wrestlers that Vince didn't want/like. As this is why DDP was flopped to heel and came in with a shitty ass storyline with taker. Bagwell was gone after night one.
@@sc30002001i disagree, whatever issue they had I'm sure it was resolved, Shane had a You Shoot "What a dick" and Bagwell was on the list, he doesn't speak ill of him, but points out he's had a bad encounter with him.
Rhea Ripley losing to Charlotte was pretty similar to Booker losing as far as a “no-brainer” in booking that should’ve happened the other way around. Obviously Booker’s storyline was based on race, but I think you get what I’m saying. I’ll never understand why Booker or Rhea lost at their respective title matches at Mania.
That BS ticked me off so much!! The fact big nose said the foulest disrespectful things: nappy hair, your here to entertain, do a spin a rooni for me 🤦🏽🤦🏽♂️ That happened on my 21st bday So when that match happened I legit went on a drunken tirade and walked out my fams house Didnt watch the rest until days later, Lesnar darn near broke his neck!!!
It definitely says something about you when Shane Helms doesn't like you. He is honestly one of the friendliest, likeable, most respectful guys in the business. He actively goes out of his way to say nice things about people, even when interviewer's are trying to get him to bury people.
In the YouShoot interview he called a good chunk of guys dicks but said they were good guys they just have their moments or some of the promotors can be dicks, but they have to be in their position.
i find it out funny how shane says he has buried anyone or used backstage politics . LOL When you are lowermidcarder you don't have that power. If Hurricane was maineventer would he be do that stuff
I dont think Helms hates HBK anymore, i think i saw a interview with Helms about how HBK called him when Helms' son was sick in the hospital and Helms said just that gesture superceded all the heat the had, so they might not be best friends but as far as I know, Helms doesnt bash HBK anymore like he always used to lol
@giftofgab247 At overselling and only having one memorable moment passing a title on to make another star maybe. Even that he owes Bret credit for helping Austin get over first.
I've heard lots of people in the business talk about Michaels being like that to them & others. I've even heard Nash & Hall not say it, exactly, but strongly allude to him being like that a lot & getting the rest of the Kliq to be like that to back him up so I believe Shane Helms wholeheartedly
Plus, like he said, he really had no reason to lie. He worked w other big names, & says nothing but great things about them I think he would've liked nothing more than to have gotten along with HBK, but Michaels made it impossible.
Responding a little late, but I remember Dax Harwood said to Renee Paquette about the Kliq burying them in ring and Shawn burying him backstage over his mental health, I remembered hearing the story from “anonymous source” word for word the exact same story years prior, right down to Sean Waltman being the only one who thanked them before and after.
He's thinking about the good guys who never got a shot, he doesn't want that to happen to the business going forward. It was toxic, there is no other way around it.
@John Edward just out of curiosity how is he dumb for finding faith in God? I'm not calling you out I'm just curious. Do you have issues with people who have faith in God?
If the Undertaker gimmick worked, then the Hurricane gimmick would've worked too, it's all up to the wwe, helms could've had an alter ego like Mick Foley's 3 faces
@Brendan Herbstritt Yeah and did the hurricane's career get better after this? No it didn't, and his match with the Rock wasn't great, the Rock was distracted by Stone Cold then Hurricane rolled up Rock for the win. They didn't even play Hurricane's music afterwards.
@ajay Kennedy He was over with the fans but the Wwe authorities held him down, he had charisma & a great move set, if the wwe took the Undertaker's supernatural gimmick seriously, they should've done the same with the Hurricane's superhero gimmick
@@nickruiz2343 I love and respect Shawn Michaels met him so many times, always super nice. However, I don't like the fact that he kills animals and poses with the dead animal. Like he shot and killed a black bear and he posed with it and you don't eat the meat of a bear. He makes the claim that he kills animals for the food and to give to food banks, but its more of a sport because he mounts the head on his wall. That isn't christian like.
To be fair, Michael Jordan did politic to get certain things his way. Isiah Thomas should have been on the Dream Team, but everyone in the NBA knew he and Jordan didn't get along. It's widely believed Michael's influence on the league led to Thomas being left of the Dream Team. Just sayin'.
I can see Kane and Undertaker telln him to do the chokeslam. I met both of them at Comic-Con. They were cool as hell and super nice. Also that's when I found out they weren't bros. Their entire career I just knew they were bros. I was so sad!!! LOL!!!
@Bubba Sawyer They were like the coolest guys you could ever meet. Tiny Lister Jr was super cool just like them. Tiny Lister Jr and Kane were the awsomest. Taker had to roll quick but he was awesome too.....
@@McDonaldsDude They were like the coolest guys you could ever meet. Tiny Lister Jr was super cool just like them. Tiny Lister Jr and Kane were the awsomest. Taker had to roll quick but he was awesome too.....
The whole chokeslam deal would piss me off big time if I was Shane. Taker, Kane and Big Show didn't give a fuck he used chokeslam and Vince didn't care, because they probably all understood Hurricane is just a comedy character and in that context it doesn't hurt them using the move one bit. And if they didn't care, who exactly is Shawn Michaels to have an issue with it? It just comes off like deep inside, Michaels is a bit of a bully and he likes to throw his weight around. He knows with guys like Shane Helms, he can get away with being a dick, so he is one.
The truth is, the Hurricane character was more over than Shawn was in the 2002-2006 period. He was working more frequently with top talent in small programs than Shawn was. Hurricane was working with Rock, Austin, Taker, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, Cena, even Brock.. whereas Shawn had to politic his way into programs with Austin, Taker, and Cena until he finally got the point. Of course he was going to sabotage a guy he viewed as a lesser... despite the fact that Helms is one of the highest regarded guys in the WWE locker room back then.
@@PiCheZvara Yes, let's remain objective. Shawn wasn't nearly as over after the first D-X run, and returning in 2002 after years injury. He'd been overshadowed by everyone else, and was never much more than a high midcard guy until he retired. He was then what Jon Morrison is right now. Maybe a bit better than Morrison.
Shawn is a bitch in real life though, he ain’t no bully, he’s a passive aggressive, indirect pussy that uses other people’s power against others. He’s a manipulator, not a bully. A bully is someone that will use their own power against people physically or mentally. Shawn gets others to do his dirty work, he can’t do it himself.
The fact that HBK cared so much about Helms using the choke slam when Helms was the opening match which had nothing to do with HBK while Show, Kane & Taker didn’t care is pathetic.
CM Punk said in an interview, the problem with WWE is the over competitive atmosphere in backstage. Every one wants to be the 1 and will make everything they can to remain with their spot as much as they can. So Shawn caring so much about Helms only means how talented he was and how afraid was Shawn about him taking a part of the "top guys", in other words, he felt threatened
hbk also got upset that the rock used the drop kick saying it was his move .hbk was pretty much sme guy in his 2nd run that he was in his first. only difference is he did not bury people to help himself. he did it to help hhh
I'd say that Jose Gonzales is much more disliked than Shawn Michaels. Michaels may have been a total dick, but he never stabbed another wrestler to death in a shower.
That dishonor belongs to both Chris Benoit and Jose Gonzalez. Like somebody here just said, at least HBK hasn’t killed people. He has killed careers, but not people.
For those who don't know: Helms and HBK buried the hatchet when Shawn tweeted him a very good message about him being a father for the first time. That's noble of Shawn.
@Ice booy Well, Shane said, in a interview with Kayfabe Commentaries, that they patch things up when Shawn congratulated him when he had his first child.
@CMACKCHILL This ice boy character is exactly what he is. A character. If he doesn't like me repeating myself, why did he ask me if Shawn called Helms personally? If the problem has been smoothed over, why does it matter?
I never liked HBK he annoyed the shit out of me. Shane Helms I loved, especially when The Rock worked with him. I even liked Shane when he dropped the Hurricane gimmick for a bit.
I believe the match that Shane is referring to with Shawn and Randy was the 6-man tag on June 2nd, 2003: th-cam.com/video/jrrlaMCRegQ/w-d-xo.html It looks Shawn was upset that Hurricane was not selling much for Randy and Hunter. Instead, Shawn tagged in and took the majority of the heat from the heels, even though Shawn and Kevin were far bigger stars than Hurricane at the time. Either that or it's the moment when Shane is standing there with nothing to do just before Hunter hit the Pedigree for the finish. Of course, Earl Hebner screwing up the pinfall probably didn't help Shawn's mood at all.
@Bubba Sawyer My interpretation about the selling was that Hurricane took a dropkick from Randy and was supposed to take more heat from Hunter, but quickly reversed and took over the offense and tagged in Shawn. From there, Shawn let Evolution get the heat, leading to the big tag to Kevin. Maybe that was the plan, but it made no sense for Shawn to be the face taking all the heat. Hurricane was the odd man out, as the PPV was building to Hunter vs Kevin and Ric vs Shawn, with Randy costing Shawn the match and building to a feud between them. Upon second viewing, it seems the blown spot was supposed to be Randy attacking Hurricane after Ric got knocked down, but Randy looked completely out of it from the neckbreaker off the second rope. Maybe Randy had a concussion, because even the referee checked on him at 9:25. So perhaps Randy was supposed to hit the RKO to get the win, but Hunter had to improvise with the Pedigree instead. Beyond that, no idea.
@@markrobinson9394 I'd suspect that you are probably correct about Shawn being angry about taking the heat while Shane being lower on the pole than Nash and Micheals.
@CMACKCHILL ok, there are exceptions. I've never heard a negative word about Glenn in or out of the ring (although this is the internet, I'm sure you could find some), so that sounds right up his alley.
@@roberjohnsmith Nope that was and still is the real Shawn, he was like that even before the drugs. I like a conversation Marty Jannetty said he had w Macho. He said to Macho that Shawn was really changing and Mcho said "Or is fame really allowing him to act like he truly is"
@baby Maharaja Helms is actually one of the biggest lying pieces of shit in the business. He’s a straight up bitch and I’ve told him that to his face and he didn’t do a damn thing about it.
@@dontknow7022 Sure did. 2008 in Charlotte, NC at an NWA Legends Fan Fest event. He then found me on Facebook and blocked me. Pretty funny shit actually.
I would think if nobody else is talking to you, a higher power is telling that you need to stop being a dic because everyone sees that about you and don’t want to talk to you. Lol!
The fact that Shawn even went along with that kind of a storyline is pretty suspect. Hopefully, he has become closer with the true Jesus Christ since that point.
I honestly believe that Shawn Michaels has a bevy of mental issues that he disguised with money and fame. I hope now that he's retired, he can resolve some of his issues.
He's enjoying retired life and thankfully grown up from the assholish behavior in the 90s and actually put over young stars like Edge, Orton, Cena and others..but sadly people don't want to see that and would rather dwell on the negatives of what he did...or some would rather hate on HBK because it's the "cool" thing to do. Nonetheless I'm glad he's changed his life for the better.
@@kenrickeason The difference between Hogan and HBK is HBK is settling for retired life with nothing left to prove while Hogan is still about ego and putting himself over.
@@ravensblm You bring up a good point. The commenters in this vid act like HBK was the only one who did politics for his own benefit when many before him did so..some even did worse. How come they're not crucifying them?
They do this in all sports Micheal Jordan did it to Isiah Thomas and starting QBs in the nfl do it to rookies look at Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and how he treated Jordan Love
When you work with someone, that IS them in-person--in fact oftentimes you see people's full narcissism and pettiness come out in the workplace. And when they decide to fuck with your career, they affect you in a very real way, oftentimes in the long-term. If someone intentionally and maliciously screws with and undermines their coworkers on the job, they are a piece of shit, full stop.
@@chilliecheesecake I don’t know if I agree with you. When you take work seriously of course you are going to act a certain way. For example, if you are a boss you have to be strict but that doesn’t mean you are like that all of the time. Shawn’s friends even said that wrestling was his life.
@@chilliecheesecake Not always true. In several of my instances, you have a professional face and a personal face. You often think of someone as a dick in a professional setting, but if you get around them outside of work, you find that they're a decent guy.
That "somebody blew a spot" story he's talking about. It was the main event on Raw in a tag match. And it was HIM who blew the spot. He didn't kick out when he was supposed to, and then everyone had to improvise a brawl. Everyone involved looked like an idiot, and that killed his main event push right there. He can blame it in whatever he wants.
Just watched this. Helms may have made a mistake at the end of the match, but it's clear that Orton is concussed and that's when things go to shit. Helms hit Orton with a nasty looking and solid sounding elbow that gets an audible pop before a neckbreaker. After this Orton seems to have problems moving and his eyes are darting back and forth all over the place. Classic signs of head trauma. Obviously there was a planned kick out, but someone called an audible and it shows.
When your worst HBK story is about the time he was mean to you but then he came back and apologized right after, it sounds like you missed the truly hard version of him to work with.
Because apologizing right after nullifies it and makes it okay. Also, funny that you leave out the other examples Hurricane gave of Boy Toy burying him. You can go back to slobbering Boy Toy’s knob
@@Speedyreedy1218 Yeah basically, before he "changed", he used to be a dick even to the top guys. Then he found religion and decided to only be a dick to the midcard and lower guys.
I met Shawn at the height of his career in the mid 90’s and he was very nice and accommodating to everyone in the room. He even stayed an extra hour just to make sure everyone got his autograph and a picture. The guy was getting mobbed in a hot ass room by fans but he kept his cool and stayed professional. Bret was nice too but Shawn was more interactive with fans.
I met him at an autograph signing the night before he won the World title at Survivor Series 2002. I told him DX was a stroke of genius, and he did that laugh of his. Shook my hand and everything. Great memory. I was wearing that "don't hunt what you can't kill" shirt they made when he came back & a DX bandana on my head.
Shane hates Christianity. Posts anti-Christian stuff on IG to provoke responses & when people disagree with him, he blocks them. He dishes stuff out but can’t take other perspectives. That makes him a hypocrite for talking about Shawn this way. Nobody’s perfect. Even the great Shawn michaels. Btw, I was one he blocked for a response and that’s ok because I’m not petty 😂
Who is probably why Shane kept saying things about Shawn. It's not really about Shawn. It's that Shawn became a follower of Christ,that's what Shane dislikes.
Not Shane helms fan ,but when we he speaks he's very real . I can see HBK being this way and this is my favorite wrestler. Christian people faking a holy side is way too common especially in the celebrity hood
I mean I like the guy and I enjoyed the hurricane character and even Shane and the Helms Dynasty in Impact. But Shane is different on Twitter. I've heard of him blocking people for some of the most ridiculous stuff.
Hurricane is right there no story him using backstage politics.but when you a lower uppermidcard it easy not to do that because you have no pull lol . I do agree that HBK was still an ass his second run instead HBK tried helping hhh more
It's all good Douchebag Shawn got the taste slapped out of his mouth and a nice shiner by someone that doesn't even step into the ring. And got arrested after getting his ass kicked in public. Just proves he isn't a bad ass on the streets.
To be fair isiah Thomas wasn’t good enough to make the team at that point (he retired around then) and the other guys on the team thought he was a dick lol
@@chrisgrudge6964 Thomas was definitely good enough but he was injured and he never recovered enough from that injury. To be fair, Jordan was the reason.
Shane is right. I’m not doubting Shawn is born again but even after he came back there were times where you saw the “old Shawn”. I remember one time Cena was late getting to the ring and HBK and HHH were in the ring and Shawn snapped in the ring cursing and having a fit while Cena made sure he got to the ring quick.
@j d yeah agreed. I’m a Christian but I have never acted like a dick and used my faith as a tool. Shawn Michaels even days one time that he has nothing to apologize for because God forgives him. That’s not how it works. You still need to take responsibility for his actions. Look what he did to Chris Candido. Not only was he ducking his girlfriend but him and His buddies Would bully and bury him
@@chriscros13 Yeah somebody posted it. It was a June 2003 Raw. In fact there were other incident around that time he got visibly upset with younger talent in the ring
@@Necropantz Of course. Not saying every Christian is a good person. I think the majority are but just like any group there are assholes. Shawn was a legendary asshole and he honestly had never really asked for forgiveness to people he screwed over. He says that God forgives him so he doesn’t have to which is bullshit. If I make a mistake I apologize to the person
I heard that Isaiah wouldn't pass the ball to mike in his 1st AS Game. Then when the dream team came about every member had problems w the Bad Boy Pistons sooo they would play if he was there.
Isaiah Thomas was the leader of the 80s bad boy Pistons that had the Jordan Rule that went out to rough him up in every game. Thomas got what he had coming.
@@geeked-outturtlesfan4288 I didn't forget this point. I actually told a coworker that Lebron leaving the floor and not shaking hands after this playoff series is the same thing the Pistons did to Jordan.
I just realized Shawn Michael nickname was THE SHOW STOPPER 😭😭 he told us all before all this fuckery happened 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Facts 😂
Who doesn't know that's been his nickname? haha
Boy toy lol smh
@@James-tx5pb or the name 🤔
I thought it was a knock against the Big Show. 😆
Shout out to the Rock for working with Hurricane
Those 2 had some of my all time favorite promos together, Hurricane was the only one back then who gave it back to the Rock that well & it was so cool & funny to see the Rock be the butt of the jokes like that
@Toby Williams
Vince told a lot of people to do stuff. A lot of people said no with an explanation. The Rock said, ok no problem.
I've never heard of any backstage / real life issues with the Rock ... that's why he's GOAT
Thing is it was really fun too. Loved that feud.
The rock put over hurricane not to say Shane didn’t get himself over but the rock helped
Never meet your heroes. The sad part is Shane grew up admiring Shawn.
I agree.. I rather just admire the person's work than be disappointed about the person..
I met my hero Bret Hart twice and both times he was cool. Not all idols are twats.
@Bru Rred What's wrong in appreciating someone's talent? Besides if the so called heroes in the community come out and talk to the people in the community every once in a while instead of being power hungry controlling psychopaths then a lot of people will look at the so called heroes as simply heroes..
@@davidcarter6938 I love Bret! One of my favorite people alive..
@Bru Rred its not just western society but ok 🙄😂✌
Loved when Hurricane used to try to Chokeslam big blokes
One of the many times backstage politics from HBK got something stopped, unfortunately.
Exactly. It added well to his gimmick, which was pure comedy
I loved it. This is so sad, I LOVE HBK, he is definitely my favorite worker of all time, and even I met him once, when I was working at the DCU center, and we got to eat backstage in the same area that the wrestlers ate, I got to sit next to Big Show, HHH, Fit Finley, Gail Kim came through, and Big Show made an Asian Vagina Joke, it was awesome, but HBK was a Wicked dick, I wasn't like running over to meet him because I didn't want to get fired, But I thought maybe it was a bad night for him or something. But there are so many stories like this,when there's smoke there's fire, and here there is a forest fire unfortunately
This guy’s gimmick wasn’t funny
Like back at royal rumble 2002 when he tried to chokeslam Steve Austin and HHH.
You can see how respectful shane really is. Sad that he had to go through all that BS. Seems like a cool ass dude.
He got buff bagwell fired
@@sc30002001 That's all crap. Buff was part of MANY WCW wrestlers that Vince didn't want/like.
As this is why DDP was flopped to heel and came in with a shitty ass storyline with taker.
Bagwell was gone after night one.
Shane Helms has been like that in every shoot interview I've seen him in to date. He's become one of the all time greats IMHO just for that.
@Bubba Sawyer th-cam.com/video/EV69mSHC8Mg/w-d-xo.html
@@sc30002001i disagree, whatever issue they had I'm sure it was resolved, Shane had a You Shoot "What a dick" and Bagwell was on the list, he doesn't speak ill of him, but points out he's had a bad encounter with him.
HHH...... WM 19..... I'm still PISSED
Rhea Ripley losing to Charlotte was pretty similar to Booker losing as far as a “no-brainer” in booking that should’ve happened the other way around. Obviously Booker’s storyline was based on race, but I think you get what I’m saying. I’ll never understand why Booker or Rhea lost at their respective title matches at Mania.
Booker t has gone on record that he doesn't give a shit no more.. Jesus christ you dumb a$$
The Hurricane didn't have a match at Wrestlemania 19 also
That BS ticked me off so much!!
The fact big nose said the foulest disrespectful things: nappy hair, your here to entertain, do a spin a rooni for me 🤦🏽🤦🏽♂️
That happened on my 21st bday
So when that match happened I legit went on a drunken tirade and walked out my fams house
Didnt watch the rest until days later, Lesnar darn near broke his neck!!!
@@womack900 Asuka losing to Charlotte at Wrestlemania
11 year old me feel vindicated! I knew i didnt like HBK...I just knew it.
👆
I've never bought that born again Christian act. He's always been an asshole.
It definitely says something about you when Shane Helms doesn't like you. He is honestly one of the friendliest, likeable, most respectful guys in the business. He actively goes out of his way to say nice things about people, even when interviewer's are trying to get him to bury people.
I’ve met the man twice and he’s always been cool.
In the YouShoot interview he called a good chunk of guys dicks but said they were good guys they just have their moments or some of the promotors can be dicks, but they have to be in their position.
Proud to be from the same area of the earth as Shane
i find it out funny how shane says he has buried anyone or used backstage politics . LOL When you are lowermidcarder you don't have that power. If Hurricane was maineventer would he be do that stuff
He just blew his record of saying something nice about everyone Shawn is the exception
I dont think Helms hates HBK anymore, i think i saw a interview with Helms about how HBK called him when Helms' son was sick in the hospital and Helms said just that gesture superceded all the heat the had, so they might not be best friends but as far as I know, Helms doesnt bash HBK anymore like he always used to lol
People don't want to hear that. People want chaos,anger etc. Brings ratings. Sad how the world is.
Doesn't erase all the bullsh$t Michaels put every wrestler through
@@neilsmith9066 well,if they forgive him and see that he's changed,then the problem isn't Shawn,it's the person you see in the mirror.
@@quentincampbell612 Thanks for ruining my life and getting me fired appreciate it HBK said about 40+ wrestlers I imagine. Just look at Marty
@@neilsmith9066 you're welcome
That's why I was always a Bret kid growing up.
Bret was always a stand up guy, so is Shane Helms. Vince lied to Bret after giving him his word so, Bret knocked his ass out.
@giftofgab247 At overselling and only having one memorable moment passing a title on to make another star maybe.
Even that he owes Bret credit for helping Austin get over first.
HBK was the best there is best there was best they ever will be ....
Bret was also the better wrestler. Perhaps not as flashy but certainly consistently better matches against any and every opponent.
@@dustyvaughn528 Shawn was the best at giving man-love to Vince.
I believe him. He's very sincere and doesn't want to but had to tell truth.
I've heard lots of people in the business talk about Michaels being like that to them & others. I've even heard Nash & Hall not say it, exactly, but strongly allude to him being like that a lot & getting the rest of the Kliq to be like that to back him up so I believe Shane Helms wholeheartedly
Plus, like he said, he really had no reason to lie. He worked w other big names, & says nothing but great things about them I think he would've liked nothing more than to have gotten along with HBK, but Michaels made it impossible.
Responding a little late, but I remember Dax Harwood said to Renee Paquette about the Kliq burying them in ring and Shawn burying him backstage over his mental health, I remembered hearing the story from “anonymous source” word for word the exact same story years prior, right down to Sean Waltman being the only one who thanked them before and after.
He's thinking about the good guys who never got a shot, he doesn't want that to happen to the business going forward. It was toxic, there is no other way around it.
Correction-it's his truth not the truth.
Finding God doesn’t mean he’s not Shawn Michaels anymore
Corny said it best " I've found people find god when no one else will talk to them"
Being Shawn Michaels isn't the problem, it's that he can't escape being Michael Higgenbottom
@John Edward just out of curiosity how is he dumb for finding faith in God? I'm not calling you out I'm just curious. Do you have issues with people who have faith in God?
it just means you want to find your deeper self
@@justinsmith8135 It gave him the justification in his eyes to continue to be an asshole
If the Undertaker gimmick worked, then the Hurricane gimmick would've worked too, it's all up to the wwe, helms could've had an alter ego like Mick Foley's 3 faces
The Hurricane gimmick worked he was over.
@Brendan Herbstritt Not compared to the Undertaker's career, the wwe didn't make it work, & mostly didn't take it seriously during it's 4 year run
@Brendan Herbstritt Yeah and did the hurricane's career get better after this? No it didn't, and his match with the Rock wasn't great, the Rock was distracted by Stone Cold then Hurricane rolled up Rock for the win. They didn't even play Hurricane's music afterwards.
@ajay Kennedy He was over with the fans but the Wwe authorities held him down, he had charisma & a great move set, if the wwe took the Undertaker's supernatural gimmick seriously, they should've done the same with the Hurricane's superhero gimmick
@@youtubemember1115 That's because The Hurricane is not Taker.
Jim Cornette thumbed up this video
Sad enough Micheal Jordan was burying other people...
Shane’s right, real followers of a faith don’t go around talking about how much they’ve changed. They PROVE it...
by doing what? Apologizing when they're rude?
@@LARRYLONGSTRETH HBK was still being a dick regardless whether he is Christian or not. I’m Christian too btw but HBK is a hypocrite
@@nickruiz2343 I love and respect Shawn Michaels met him so many times, always super nice. However, I don't like the fact that he kills animals and poses with the dead animal. Like he shot and killed a black bear and he posed with it and you don't eat the meat of a bear. He makes the claim that he kills animals for the food and to give to food banks, but its more of a sport because he mounts the head on his wall. That isn't christian like.
Nope. You are wrong, Sir.
The Faith requires that you profess it once you accept it.
So u can try again to mislead people.
@@jrsmith1998 what?
To be fair, Michael Jordan did politic to get certain things his way. Isiah Thomas should have been on the Dream Team, but everyone in the NBA knew he and Jordan didn't get along. It's widely believed Michael's influence on the league led to Thomas being left of the Dream Team. Just sayin'.
Nobody liked Isiah
Bird didn’t like him
Pippen didn’t like him
Nor did Ewing
Ummm really you pulled that analogy out of your ass. The HUGE difference is that in basketball the winner/loser isn’t decided before the event.
I can see Kane and Undertaker telln him to do the chokeslam. I met both of them at Comic-Con. They were cool as hell and super nice. Also that's when I found out they weren't bros. Their entire career I just knew they were bros. I was so sad!!! LOL!!!
I've never met Taker, but have met Kane a few times and I agree. Kane was really down to Earth and chill. I don't see him caring.
That’s because they were about the business, not themselves. They will always try to get the younger talent over.
@Bubba Sawyer They were like the coolest guys you could ever meet. Tiny Lister Jr was super cool just like them. Tiny Lister Jr and Kane were the awsomest. Taker had to roll quick but he was awesome too.....
@@McDonaldsDude They were like the coolest guys you could ever meet. Tiny Lister Jr was super cool just like them. Tiny Lister Jr and Kane were the awsomest. Taker had to roll quick but he was awesome too.....
@Bubba Sawyer I think some of the biggest meanest looking guys in the wrestling business end up being the nicest outside the ring
The whole chokeslam deal would piss me off big time if I was Shane. Taker, Kane and Big Show didn't give a fuck he used chokeslam and Vince didn't care, because they probably all understood Hurricane is just a comedy character and in that context it doesn't hurt them using the move one bit. And if they didn't care, who exactly is Shawn Michaels to have an issue with it?
It just comes off like deep inside, Michaels is a bit of a bully and he likes to throw his weight around. He knows with guys like Shane Helms, he can get away with being a dick, so he is one.
The truth is, the Hurricane character was more over than Shawn was in the 2002-2006 period. He was working more frequently with top talent in small programs than Shawn was. Hurricane was working with Rock, Austin, Taker, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, Cena, even Brock.. whereas Shawn had to politic his way into programs with Austin, Taker, and Cena until he finally got the point. Of course he was going to sabotage a guy he viewed as a lesser... despite the fact that Helms is one of the highest regarded guys in the WWE locker room back then.
@@Unlitedsoul OK, let's remain objective - Hurricane was never even remotely as over as Shawn Michaels.
@@PiCheZvara Yes, let's remain objective. Shawn wasn't nearly as over after the first D-X run, and returning in 2002 after years injury. He'd been overshadowed by everyone else, and was never much more than a high midcard guy until he retired. He was then what Jon Morrison is right now. Maybe a bit better than Morrison.
Well it bit him in the ass. Literally everyone uses the super kick now. The sweet chin music has lost its grandeur due to that.
Shawn is a bitch in real life though, he ain’t no bully, he’s a passive aggressive, indirect pussy that uses other people’s power against others. He’s a manipulator, not a bully. A bully is someone that will use their own power against people physically or mentally. Shawn gets others to do his dirty work, he can’t do it himself.
The fact that HBK cared so much about Helms using the choke slam when Helms was the opening match which had nothing to do with HBK while Show, Kane & Taker didn’t care is pathetic.
CM Punk said in an interview, the problem with WWE is the over competitive atmosphere in backstage. Every one wants to be the 1 and will make everything they can to remain with their spot as much as they can. So Shawn caring so much about Helms only means how talented he was and how afraid was Shawn about him taking a part of the "top guys", in other words, he felt threatened
@@ReaperFrost no shit. Shawn micheals and triple H killed many careers cause they were afraid of competition. Why do you think WWE hated punk?
hbk also got upset that the rock used the drop kick saying it was his move .hbk was pretty much sme guy in his 2nd run that he was in his first. only difference is he did not bury people to help himself. he did it to help hhh
@@ReaperFrost it like wrestling inudstry. you have to do it to get ahead
@@ReaperFrost it like thst in evert work place .everyone want to get ahead
Trust me fella 😆 Michael Jordan no saint either
Shawn Michaels, the most disliked wrestler in the wrestling business
Bret hart always said Hbk was feminine
@Ice booy Hogan was a dick you're wrong
Screw that twinkle-eyed fuck
I'd say that Jose Gonzales is much more disliked than Shawn Michaels. Michaels may have been a total dick, but he never stabbed another wrestler to death in a shower.
That dishonor belongs to both Chris Benoit and Jose Gonzalez. Like somebody here just said, at least HBK hasn’t killed people. He has killed careers, but not people.
Shane Helms is a real dude.
Rise 555 I agree he always seems very respectful but very brave and ready to defend himself
Met him at OVW Christmas Chaos a couple of years back...Really nice dude, very down to Earth & cool.
Forgot, he wrestled Abyss that night, who is also a big sweetheart.
He is a loser
@@starofthemidnight5411 troll
For those who don't know: Helms and HBK buried the hatchet when Shawn tweeted him a very good message about him being a father for the first time.
That's noble of Shawn.
@Ice booy Well, Shane said, in a interview with Kayfabe Commentaries, that they patch things up when Shawn congratulated him when he had his first child.
@CMACKCHILL This ice boy character is exactly what he is. A character.
If he doesn't like me repeating myself, why did he ask me if Shawn called Helms personally?
If the problem has been smoothed over, why does it matter?
@CMACKCHILL I just know that Helms said that Shawn was saying good thing about Shane being a father.
Wow tweeting someone about being a father so noble
Well now Shawn is running NXT and doing a great job, I like to think his a changed man
Hurricane Helms: "Stand back there's a hurricane coming through!"
*Shawn Michaels, the pushstopper, sweet chin musics*
Lmao
The pushstopper, lmao that’s a good one.
@@mrdrprj5353 9 ccx 9 OP 0 40 0. 9c. 9 0 9p 0 0. 9 l 9 9 0 0 &hm. Bbn nmymmytt. Yummy him..
Ytm9 all,
4hy45h4nmymmytt. 454y
Y4.
Push stopper haha otherwise Hurricane would be a main eventer...
Dynamic Frame Michaels put the kibosh on Owen Hart getting a push which sucks
I never liked HBK he annoyed the shit out of me.
Shane Helms I loved, especially when The Rock worked with him.
I even liked Shane when he dropped the Hurricane gimmick for a bit.
I believe the match that Shane is referring to with Shawn and Randy was the 6-man tag on June 2nd, 2003:
th-cam.com/video/jrrlaMCRegQ/w-d-xo.html
It looks Shawn was upset that Hurricane was not selling much for Randy and Hunter. Instead, Shawn tagged in and took the majority of the heat from the heels, even though Shawn and Kevin were far bigger stars than Hurricane at the time.
Either that or it's the moment when Shane is standing there with nothing to do just before Hunter hit the Pedigree for the finish.
Of course, Earl Hebner screwing up the pinfall probably didn't help Shawn's mood at all.
Yeah I think you’re right. I was trying to find the Exact moment where there was a blown spot though
@Bubba Sawyer My interpretation about the selling was that Hurricane took a dropkick from Randy and was supposed to take more heat from Hunter, but quickly reversed and took over the offense and tagged in Shawn. From there, Shawn let Evolution get the heat, leading to the big tag to Kevin.
Maybe that was the plan, but it made no sense for Shawn to be the face taking all the heat.
Hurricane was the odd man out, as the PPV was building to Hunter vs Kevin and Ric vs Shawn, with Randy costing Shawn the match and building to a feud between them.
Upon second viewing, it seems the blown spot was supposed to be Randy attacking Hurricane after Ric got knocked down, but Randy looked completely out of it from the neckbreaker off the second rope. Maybe Randy had a concussion, because even the referee checked on him at 9:25. So perhaps Randy was supposed to hit the RKO to get the win, but Hunter had to improvise with the Pedigree instead.
Beyond that, no idea.
@@markrobinson9394 I'd suspect that you are probably correct about Shawn being angry about taking the heat while Shane being lower on the pole than Nash and Micheals.
I saw the match and Earl hebner fucked up horribly and the powerbomb was to clean up the mess earl made.
Never meet your heroes
Ever
Hogan is a prick I had a huge run in with him
This is sadly true.
@CMACKCHILL ok, there are exceptions. I've never heard a negative word about Glenn in or out of the ring (although this is the internet, I'm sure you could find some), so that sounds right up his alley.
@@michaelallanrubin2376 Are you the man Hogan was yelling at in the hotel lobby?
I saw RVD talking about HBK. RVD seems like one of the nicest guys around. If he doesnt like you, youre probably a weasel
If there will ever be a Shane Helms biopic..... he would be played by Jon Bernthal.
Hahahaha spot on
Literally was thinking to myself that he resembles John
No way. He’s too big. Or maybe I’m just thinking of him as Punisher.
Jon also played a guy named Shane lol
Thought it was him in the thumbnail, lol.
If you watch the match he’s talking about, Helms concussed Randy. There’s always two sides to the story.
And For Shawn to have all the talent he had, his burying ego throws dirt all over that..
He is open about how he was a POS.
He was on drugs and drunk all the time. It wasn't the real Shawn.
@@roberjohnsmith bs have u not heard the time period fam
@@roberjohnsmith Nope that was and still is the real Shawn, he was like that even before the drugs. I like a conversation Marty Jannetty said he had w Macho. He said to Macho that Shawn was really changing and Mcho said "Or is fame really allowing him to act like he truly is"
Major props to The Rock for putting Helms over.
Shawn always seemed like a fake dude, even without knowing these stories.
Stand back there's a Hurricane coming through.
Sounds like something Shawn would do 😂😂😂
This is quite old, Helms has said recently they bury the hatchet. Shawn messaged him after Helms child was born.
ya think? there is literally a "released in 2012" on screen for the whole video lmao
In case no one noticed the "Released in 2012" message that was displayed in the video the whole time...
@baby Maharaja Helms is actually one of the biggest lying pieces of shit in the business. He’s a straight up bitch and I’ve told him that to his face and he didn’t do a damn thing about it.
@@morgandavis5216 sure you did😂😂
@@dontknow7022 Sure did. 2008 in Charlotte, NC at an NWA Legends Fan Fest event. He then found me on Facebook and blocked me. Pretty funny shit actually.
"When nobody else will talk to you, you confide in a higher power" - Jim Cornette
This quote is slicker than cum on a gold tooth
@@feebypeels2883 Lmaoooo
I would think if nobody else is talking to you, a higher power is telling that you need to stop being a dic because everyone sees that about you and don’t want to talk to you. Lol!
Of course it was a Cornette quote. That legend has Midas' vocal cords, everything that comes out of his mouth is gold.
"When mortals wont speak to you, you find a higher power"
This is old!!!! They buried the hatchet once shawn tweeted prayers for helms sick child.
lmao it says released in 2012 in the bottom right corner
How you know Shawn Michaels is a totally phony Christian....he allowed Vince and Shane to beat him and “God” in a tag team match
The fact that Shawn even went along with that kind of a storyline is pretty suspect. Hopefully, he has become closer with the true Jesus Christ since that point.
Before you go and bash in the comments, ask yourself, have you ever heard Shawn side of this story?
Jordan did keep I. Thomas off the dream team. Lol
Correct and 30 years later people still talk about it. Hence huge sport scandal.
@@gregkuhlen4514 Thomas was the leader of a team that went out to specifically hurt Jordan. He honestly got what he had coming.
Hurricane helms absolute legend. Keep plodding along son.
I honestly believe that Shawn Michaels has a bevy of mental issues that he disguised with money and fame. I hope now that he's retired, he can resolve some of his issues.
He's enjoying retired life and thankfully grown up from the assholish behavior in the 90s and actually put over young stars like Edge, Orton, Cena and others..but sadly people don't want to see that and would rather dwell on the negatives of what he did...or some would rather hate on HBK because it's the "cool" thing to do. Nonetheless I'm glad he's changed his life for the better.
@@American-Zero So did Hogan! Hulk Hogan put over other Wrestlers.. He is still seen as a politic playing backstabber..
@@kenrickeason The difference between Hogan and HBK is HBK is settling for retired life with nothing left to prove while Hogan is still about ego and putting himself over.
Name 1 top guy who didn't do politics
@@ravensblm You bring up a good point. The commenters in this vid act like HBK was the only one who did politics for his own benefit when many before him did so..some even did worse. How come they're not crucifying them?
They do this in all sports Micheal Jordan did it to Isiah Thomas and starting QBs in the nfl do it to rookies look at Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and how he treated Jordan Love
He is the only guy I heard trash Michael's really
Bottom Line. Shane was good. Regardless of HBK Shane was good! But, also, Shane wasn't THAT GOOD.
LOVED THE HURRICANE!!! DAMN THAT GIMMICK HAD STAYING POWER AND IT WAS ANOTHER WWE DROP.
Fact is Shawn Michaels & Kevin Nash made competitive wrestlers go down to mid card and to even get pro wrestlers fired back 1995 era.
I'm sure HBK is a nice guy in person, but working with him as a co-worker is another story. Too many stories with HBK from different people.
When you work with someone, that IS them in-person--in fact oftentimes you see people's full narcissism and pettiness come out in the workplace. And when they decide to fuck with your career, they affect you in a very real way, oftentimes in the long-term. If someone intentionally and maliciously screws with and undermines their coworkers on the job, they are a piece of shit, full stop.
@@chilliecheesecake I don’t know if I agree with you. When you take work seriously of course you are going to act a certain way. For example, if you are a boss you have to be strict but that doesn’t mean you are like that all of the time. Shawn’s friends even said that wrestling was his life.
@@chilliecheesecake Not always true. In several of my instances, you have a professional face and a personal face. You often think of someone as a dick in a professional setting, but if you get around them outside of work, you find that they're a decent guy.
I BELIEVE HURRICANE SHAWN IS A GREAT WRESTLER BUT EVERYBODY NOT LYING ON HIM. I ALWAYS LIKED THE HURRICANE HE WAS FUNNY BUT CAN ACTUALLY WRESTLE.
That "somebody blew a spot" story he's talking about. It was the main event on Raw in a tag match. And it was HIM who blew the spot. He didn't kick out when he was supposed to, and then everyone had to improvise a brawl. Everyone involved looked like an idiot, and that killed his main event push right there. He can blame it in whatever he wants.
Facts.
Any link on that match?
@@theluffy99 th-cam.com/video/jrrlaMCRegQ/w-d-xo.html
Just watched this. Helms may have made a mistake at the end of the match, but it's clear that Orton is concussed and that's when things go to shit.
Helms hit Orton with a nasty looking and solid sounding elbow that gets an audible pop before a neckbreaker. After this Orton seems to have problems moving and his eyes are darting back and forth all over the place. Classic signs of head trauma. Obviously there was a planned kick out, but someone called an audible and it shows.
You do know that MOST people are not supposed to kick out of the pedigree right? In fact Nash was supposed to jump in and stop the count.
When your worst HBK story is about the time he was mean to you but then he came back and apologized right after, it sounds like you missed the truly hard version of him to work with.
W
He just said that the mf went to creative to bury his push an many others are you stupid Larry?
Oh shut up d rider 🤡
Because apologizing right after nullifies it and makes it okay. Also, funny that you leave out the other examples Hurricane gave of Boy Toy burying him. You can go back to slobbering Boy Toy’s knob
Rock real af
I love Shane he don’t hide that N.C. accent. I’m from N.C. so him, Matt, and jeff are kinda hometown heroes for me
I have a friend who lives in Raleigh, her accent is sexy!
North Carolina?
Jeff Hardy’s accent is very apparent but Matt’s you can’t really tell.
How can any wrestler defeat someone who flys in the air?
😂
All the big names in wrestling are backstage politicians.
Around the 1:38 mark.... Well Bagwell's recent DSOTR episode says otherwise.
Funny thing is when Shawn came back to wwe everyone said they liked Shawn better than before
Not Maven.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Yeah basically, before he "changed", he used to be a dick even to the top guys. Then he found religion and decided to only be a dick to the midcard and lower guys.
I'll get a lot of dislikes from this comment but Shawn Michaels is the most overrated wrestler ever
Doesn’t he technically work with Shawn at nxt?
He does
Looking at some of the HBK fanboys in the comments is legitimately cringeworthy.
Your vocabulary makes it obvious that you're a sheep to internet language. Sad.
@@kingluigi7 so is your immediate reaction to what i just said.
MJ blocked Isiah Thomas from the Dream Team
I met Shawn at the height of his career in the mid 90’s and he was very nice and accommodating to everyone in the room. He even stayed an extra hour just to make sure everyone got his autograph and a picture. The guy was getting mobbed in a hot ass room by fans but he kept his cool and stayed professional. Bret was nice too but Shawn was more interactive with fans.
I met him at an autograph signing the night before he won the World title at Survivor Series 2002. I told him DX was a stroke of genius, and he did that laugh of his. Shook my hand and everything. Great memory. I was wearing that "don't hunt what you can't kill" shirt they made when he came back & a DX bandana on my head.
Oh, that Bret, always brooding. He's so crazy.
Lol, just because he was nice that day doesn't mean he's always nice
It’s easy to be nice to strangers, it’s not as easy to be nice to your coworkers
He was an asshole backstage not towards the fans.
HBK = Top 10 most overrated all time. Maybe Top 5.
"Shawn tried to fuck you" this is the kindve interviewing we need on 60 mins
Shane hates Christianity. Posts anti-Christian stuff on IG to provoke responses & when people disagree with him, he blocks them. He dishes stuff out but can’t take other perspectives. That makes him a hypocrite for talking about Shawn this way. Nobody’s perfect. Even the great Shawn michaels.
Btw, I was one he blocked for a response and that’s ok because I’m not petty 😂
The irony is Shane doesn’t buy in to any of the Christian stuff, yet this whole video is preaching gospel facts
He talking about shawn being a Christian but still doing fucked up shit he said he not buying that
Pay attention, wtf are you talking about
@@jaetoner1220 we're not perfect when we convert
Who is probably why Shane kept saying things about Shawn. It's not really about Shawn. It's that Shawn became a follower of Christ,that's what Shane dislikes.
You can tell Shawn michaems was a pos. He's the one that always comes up. He's that dude at work that's a piece of work.
Man i love these Shane Helms shoots, he's a great talker, i think its the accent.
I bet it's more because he's genuine, real.
It sucks when you find out someone you looked up to when you were a kid is a piece of shit.
I have never heard a bad word about Helms from within the industry
Same with The Undertaker, I have NEVER heard anyone say something negative about taker
Rock said he used to watch him change and hide is his locker room
Who in the fuck is Shane helms really to even be talking right now
Idiot
Not Shane helms fan ,but when we he speaks he's very real . I can see HBK being this way and this is my favorite wrestler. Christian people faking a holy side is way too common especially in the celebrity hood
I mean I like the guy and I enjoyed the hurricane character and even Shane and the Helms Dynasty in Impact. But Shane is different on Twitter. I've heard of him blocking people for some of the most ridiculous stuff.
Hurricane is right there no story him using backstage politics.but when you a lower uppermidcard it easy not to do that because you have no pull lol . I do agree that HBK was still an ass his second run instead HBK tried helping hhh more
I am saying Shawn is overrated. I hear God said Shawn changed. Problem is when you alienate everyone the only thing left for you is God
People like Shawn talk to God because nobody else want to talk to them.
This dude choke both Stone Cold and Triple H at the same time
It's all good
Douchebag Shawn got the taste slapped out of his mouth and a nice shiner by someone that doesn't even step into the ring.
And got arrested after getting his ass kicked in public. Just proves he isn't a bad ass on the streets.
He dripped with insincerity.
Rob Van Dam
not everybody shane
Hurricane was always a personal favorite of mine.
Old habits die hard. Dont worry. SHAWN got out politiced by the biggest politic in Hulk Hogan.
There was so much carnage in the wake of Vince getting Shawn over and Champion.
Shawn sold the tickets tho, in Vince's eyes that makes you a God
7:21 Bret deserved what happened to him
bret hart is one of the most overrated wrestlers of history
Michael Jordan did do that.
Damn he did?
@@chriscros13 yes watch Netflix documentary
@@RetroPillowcase I saw it. That is not exactly the same thing.
Stone Cold came up with The Hurricane Gimmick
Lol in fact Micheal jordan did this exact thing to isaiah thomas when the olympic dream team came around in 92 mentioned in the last dance doc. 😂😂😂
To be fair isiah Thomas wasn’t good enough to make the team at that point (he retired around then) and the other guys on the team thought he was a dick lol
@@chrisgrudge6964 Thomas was definitely good enough but he was injured and he never recovered enough from that injury. To be fair, Jordan was the reason.
it wasnt just jordan it was magic and everybody else aswell they didnt like him
when you are crooked in the back, you get a crooked eye
Tons of wrestlers have done the born again gimmick. It's just another way to work the crowd for money.
Shawn Michaels in Ring work is wonderful However Most of the Guys Who HBK railroaded Were Solid Guys💪🏾 Sad that assholes get put on pedestal
Well actually Hurricane. MJ was the same.
Shane is right. I’m not doubting Shawn is born again but even after he came back there were times where you saw the “old Shawn”. I remember one time Cena was late getting to the ring and HBK and HHH were in the ring and Shawn snapped in the ring cursing and having a fit while Cena made sure he got to the ring quick.
😂😂😂😂th-cam.com/video/CZ3wgVz_r-Q/w-d-xo.html
@j d yeah agreed. I’m a Christian but I have never acted like a dick and used my faith as a tool. Shawn Michaels even days one time that he has nothing to apologize for because God forgives him. That’s not how it works. You still need to take responsibility for his actions. Look what he did to Chris Candido. Not only was he ducking his girlfriend but him and His buddies Would bully and bury him
What that an episode of raw when that happened?
@@chriscros13 Yeah somebody posted it. It was a June 2003 Raw. In fact there were other incident around that time he got visibly upset with younger talent in the ring
@@Necropantz Of course. Not saying every Christian is a good person. I think the majority are but just like any group there are assholes. Shawn was a legendary asshole and he honestly had never really asked for forgiveness to people he screwed over. He says that God forgives him so he doesn’t have to which is bullshit. If I make a mistake I apologize to the person
Screwed buff didnt you…
Idiot
Jordan did do this he kept Isaiah Thomas off the dream team.
Jordan was also said to be an awful person, funny enough.
I heard that Isaiah wouldn't pass the ball to mike in his 1st AS Game. Then when the dream team came about every member had problems w the Bad Boy Pistons sooo they would play if he was there.
Isaiah Thomas was the leader of the 80s bad boy Pistons that had the Jordan Rule that went out to rough him up in every game. Thomas got what he had coming.
Yet you all forget to mention how Isaiah and the rest of the Bad Boys were classless and walked off the court when they got eliminated.
@@geeked-outturtlesfan4288 I didn't forget this point. I actually told a coworker that Lebron leaving the floor and not shaking hands after this playoff series is the same thing the Pistons did to Jordan.
I'd just like to point out the irony that Shane Helms behaves as badly as Shawn Michaels (if not worse), every day, on social media.
The NBA analogy was brilliant
hes eaten a lot of hotdogs since this
He had neck surgery so...
Helms should’ve told HBK to pick a hand.
If anyone works with people we all have these people who run to the boss
if it wasn't for shawn, hurricane would have been the biggest name in wrestling.