A note on weapons if anyone is interested: The British Indian army have its own logistics so adopted different weapons than the British army. Notably they used the Vickers-Berthier LMG over then Bren gun and maintained use of the MK III* SMLE along with the Aussies over the MK IV that everyone else had. For us wargamers all that mean is you can just use a Bren gun as a Vickers-Berthier (you can alter it slightly to be more accurate by removing the cheek rest on the stock and adding a small grip under the weapon. IMO the finned barrel they had would be a pain to model so i wouldn't bother). A MKIII at this scale is basically the same except for the nose cap on the rifle and the use of the sword bayonet over the spike baynet so just clip the spike bayonets off any MKIV SMLEs and maybe fill out the barrel end of the rifle with some greenstuff and you should be golden! This is based off memory so if anyone has any corrections please do correct me!
Luckily, the British plastics are still carrying the SMLE No 1 MK III - just as you've said, I clipped that goofy-looking spike bayonet and left just a touch of plastic at the tip. If one wanted to use the rolled sleeve arms from the 8th Army box set as well, you'd have the proper bayonets too - just a few arms short for your 8th Army if you do want to get the most out of both boxes! Good call on the Vickers-Berthier, though. I'd seen it mentioned but honestly forgot to bring it up while recording, but from what I've read that should be correct.
Adding to this. Getting a 28mm Vickers-Berthier is as simple as using the Japanese Type 99 LMG. Though they have nothing in common mechanically, visually, especially at a small scale like 28mm, they look remarkably alike.
Good idea. Many cultures and clothing norms survive across the Imperium of Man, and marine chapters taking recruits from those planets tend to adopt some of that into them.
I have stuff to build a Forgotten Army group. I didn't go with the Commando's box, I went with the newer British and Canadian starter. I liked the bayonets and options it provided.
I had family fighting in Burma! My Grand-uncle on my mothers side fought against the Japanese, and my Grand-aunt was a nurse in the British army there too. My Grand-Uncle was in North Africa before being sent to fight in Burma, and family photos of him in his kit look very interesting, a total hodgepodge of random kit. He was leading a unit and was hit badly in an attack, and only him and his batsman made it back to India, where he was invalided out of service. Brilliant painting work, and I will definitely apply this to my Chindit Konflikt 47 Army. Very useful! You keep covering things that really speak to me LOL! Really ought to consider that Patreon at this point...
There's so many fascinating stories out there that're part of people's family these days, I always get a kick out of hearing what's connected with folks that then want to share. When you're out in the arse end of nowhere with resupply only possible by mule, I'll bet your gear would start to look a little raggedy by the end of a patrol!
These are fantastic! Ive always had an interest in the 14th army and the Burma conflict as a whole so this is brilliant, would also love to see a Canadian nw Europe tutorial as they have a greener uniform than the standard british/commonwealth. Thanks again for teh great content!
The CBI Theater was always an interesting subject to me so this was great to watch! The model looks really good and I learned quite a bit on the uniform colors. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you like them! There's always a balance to be struck in just how far into the uniform and kit to go, because past a point it doesn't really matter... but on the other hand, if you *want* to paint these things accurately, it helps to know! I also find the logistics of supply and production pretty interesting, so stuff like dyeing huge stores of KD is a real treat to find in the history books. 🍻
You know I don't exaggerate if I say I'm going into those deep corners! 😂 There's a lot in here that I hope proves useful for all manner of projects; from Chindits to Western Desert campaign Sikh troops, to jungle greens in general, I think there's a little bit for anyone coming to this one.
Thanks! I've been looking for some khaki webbing suggestions for my Canadian force (also a green Battledress) and I think this or the Iraqi sand is it! Great video!
Awesome dude I wish the burma campaign got more attention especially the hell they went through Plus my great grandad was a british soldier in burna during the second World War which he was using a boys anti tank rifle Sadly i dont know what unit he served in during the war
It's hard to imagine the world being so large that there's whole theaters of WWII that seem not to get attention, and yet...! Some of the Chindit ranges out there are pretty nice, and it's an interesting theater to take Imperial Japanese in which doesn't see them brawling with US Marines for a change of pace. Lots of refreshing and interesting research to do!
There's actually an older video simply titled 'How I Base Things' that covers pretty much all the ways I do it. Otherwise, in the description with the paint listing is ordinarily the recipe for how I did the bases.
Really enjoyed this video buddy. It was a lovely paint job and a really good idea and certainly not something I would have considered until now. Entertaining and educational all in one. Cheers.
Simple, but interesting conversion, it could also pass for a late Italy's campaign. Therefore, if someone don't has any 8th Army sprue, there are a lot of turban heads on the market, plus for a more"exotic" weapon, the Owen smg was used also by not Aussie units.👍
Awesome video as always 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Quick question if i may, what colours would you recommend to represent the “pinks & Greens” US army uniform of WWII? Thank you
Great tutorial! I've used a mix of this video and your New Zeeland to create my 14th army. I was wondering what colour would you use to paint the helmets for non-Sikhs soldiers?
Another very informative video on a niche WW2 force - big thumbs up from me! Particularly liked learning about how to paint the skin tones of those Sikh warriors. Would the green grey also be a close approximation of a Canadian uniform as well do you think?
Glad to hear it! It's a video where I'd tried to squeeze in a couple of useful things no matter what folks might be doing. On the Canadian uniform, I'm honestly not too sure. A lot of sources insist that it was a strong green colour, but most of the reproductions - and originals, though faded - don't look all that green to me. Slightly more green than straight British-produced woolen battledress, but not super 'green' green, if that makes sense. I'm still not 100% on how I'd choose to tackle the Canadians, beyond possibly adding a thinned-down wash of some greenish shade over the uniform. Something I still need to experiment with!
A great tutorial. Thank You! A quick question... What did you use for the arms when you kitbashed this guy. The Burmese Campaign use basically, as modelled here, .303 No1, MkIII, but the Commando box you said you used uses the .303 No4. That's where my confusion lies. This guy has the older .303 1 Mk III, but also has the long sleeve shirt of the Commando pack. (The 8th Army has short/ rolled sleeves in the kit) Are these individual arms with a gun added or a paired set from another set. I hope my question makes sense... Thanks again..
This guy's using the arms from the Commando box - the only part I used from another kit was his head. The only difference is that I've clipped the little pig sticker bayonet from the end and trimmed the barrel back slightly so it's closer to flush with the end of the rifle, but it's definitely from the same Commando kit as all the body.
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A note on weapons if anyone is interested: The British Indian army have its own logistics so adopted different weapons than the British army. Notably they used the Vickers-Berthier LMG over then Bren gun and maintained use of the MK III* SMLE along with the Aussies over the MK IV that everyone else had. For us wargamers all that mean is you can just use a Bren gun as a Vickers-Berthier (you can alter it slightly to be more accurate by removing the cheek rest on the stock and adding a small grip under the weapon. IMO the finned barrel they had would be a pain to model so i wouldn't bother). A MKIII at this scale is basically the same except for the nose cap on the rifle and the use of the sword bayonet over the spike baynet so just clip the spike bayonets off any MKIV SMLEs and maybe fill out the barrel end of the rifle with some greenstuff and you should be golden!
This is based off memory so if anyone has any corrections please do correct me!
Luckily, the British plastics are still carrying the SMLE No 1 MK III - just as you've said, I clipped that goofy-looking spike bayonet and left just a touch of plastic at the tip. If one wanted to use the rolled sleeve arms from the 8th Army box set as well, you'd have the proper bayonets too - just a few arms short for your 8th Army if you do want to get the most out of both boxes!
Good call on the Vickers-Berthier, though. I'd seen it mentioned but honestly forgot to bring it up while recording, but from what I've read that should be correct.
Adding to this. Getting a 28mm Vickers-Berthier is as simple as using the Japanese Type 99 LMG. Though they have nothing in common mechanically, visually, especially at a small scale like 28mm, they look remarkably alike.
As a sikh myself. Your work is really appreciated 🇬🇧👳♂️
Had a rough few days, really needed that at 12:19.
I used those heads on an old pack of Space Marine Scouts. They add something unique no matter where you stick them :)
Good idea. Many cultures and clothing norms survive across the Imperium of Man, and marine chapters taking recruits from those planets tend to adopt some of that into them.
I share a similar affliction - always looking to play the oddball forces.
I have stuff to build a Forgotten Army group. I didn't go with the Commando's box, I went with the newer British and Canadian starter. I liked the bayonets and options it provided.
I had family fighting in Burma! My Grand-uncle on my mothers side fought against the Japanese, and my Grand-aunt was a nurse in the British army there too. My Grand-Uncle was in North Africa before being sent to fight in Burma, and family photos of him in his kit look very interesting, a total hodgepodge of random kit. He was leading a unit and was hit badly in an attack, and only him and his batsman made it back to India, where he was invalided out of service.
Brilliant painting work, and I will definitely apply this to my Chindit Konflikt 47 Army. Very useful!
You keep covering things that really speak to me LOL! Really ought to consider that Patreon at this point...
There's so many fascinating stories out there that're part of people's family these days, I always get a kick out of hearing what's connected with folks that then want to share. When you're out in the arse end of nowhere with resupply only possible by mule, I'll bet your gear would start to look a little raggedy by the end of a patrol!
These are fantastic! Ive always had an interest in the 14th army and the Burma conflict as a whole so this is brilliant, would also love to see a Canadian nw Europe tutorial as they have a greener uniform than the standard british/commonwealth. Thanks again for teh great content!
The CBI Theater was always an interesting subject to me so this was great to watch! The model looks really good and I learned quite a bit on the uniform colors. Thanks for sharing this.
Ooh now this is really good! Not something you'd see evertday and I'm glad to see it!
Great video.
This is why I love your channel! I learn so much about the history and kit of various countries! Thank you so much! Cheers 🍻
Glad you like them! There's always a balance to be struck in just how far into the uniform and kit to go, because past a point it doesn't really matter... but on the other hand, if you *want* to paint these things accurately, it helps to know! I also find the logistics of supply and production pretty interesting, so stuff like dyeing huge stores of KD is a real treat to find in the history books. 🍻
This is such a cool video, and such amazing historical facts!
Once again, love the historical little bits of information woven throughout the painting tutorial.
Really nice! You said you were doing niche of a niche of a niche, and you weren't joking. But I loved it--no one ever paints these guys in tutorials!
You know I don't exaggerate if I say I'm going into those deep corners! 😂 There's a lot in here that I hope proves useful for all manner of projects; from Chindits to Western Desert campaign Sikh troops, to jungle greens in general, I think there's a little bit for anyone coming to this one.
Thank you , Troy .
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Fantastic! I’m going to make some of these based on your tutorial. Thanks as always!
I hugely agree about this being an overlooked campaign/theatre. I would love any book recommendations about this topic
Great video (as always)! You are an inspiration!
that turned out really nice ! easy conversion to get a model that's almost never seen . very tempted to build a Bolt Action force of these fellows !
Thanks! I've been looking for some khaki webbing suggestions for my Canadian force (also a green Battledress) and I think this or the Iraqi sand is it! Great video!
Figure conversions are my favorites; thank you for this video!
Awesome dude
I wish the burma campaign got more attention especially the hell they went through
Plus my great grandad was a british soldier in burna during the second World War which he was using a boys anti tank rifle
Sadly i dont know what unit he served in during the war
It's hard to imagine the world being so large that there's whole theaters of WWII that seem not to get attention, and yet...! Some of the Chindit ranges out there are pretty nice, and it's an interesting theater to take Imperial Japanese in which doesn't see them brawling with US Marines for a change of pace. Lots of refreshing and interesting research to do!
Brilliant! Really enjoy the research you have completed. Would love to see how you base all of your minis.
There's actually an older video simply titled 'How I Base Things' that covers pretty much all the ways I do it. Otherwise, in the description with the paint listing is ordinarily the recipe for how I did the bases.
Really enjoyed this video buddy. It was a lovely paint job and a really good idea and certainly not something I would have considered until now. Entertaining and educational all in one. Cheers.
Makes me want to revisit the Commandos game series and go to Burma :D
Ooh perfect! I've just bought a load of sprues to make a 14th army...army
That's awesome! Really glad to hear this came along at the right time. I'd love to see more armies set out in the Far East theater.
Love the history in your videos.
Yay Bolt Action and something that isn't "normal" US, British, or German!
I think Perry Miniatures sell 28mm Sikh heads - pack of 6 for GBP9.50
Gripping Beast do a range of head sprues which feature Sikhs, £2 for five of them and they're much better proportioned to fit the Warlord bodies.
Simple, but interesting conversion, it could also pass for a late Italy's campaign. Therefore, if someone don't has any 8th Army sprue, there are a lot of turban heads on the market, plus for a more"exotic" weapon, the Owen smg was used also by not Aussie units.👍
I would love too see you play a game of bolt action or konflict 47!
😃 perfect
I would love to see some conversions for the Italian army in the future! :)
I think Army painter commando green for the uniform & Hemp rope for the webbing would all so be a good option.
Hemp Rope would work well for the webbing, though Commando Green is extremely vibrant. Army Green might be a little closer, I'd suggest.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio fair point & Army green comes in a rattle can, which is nice if you need to do the whole box of 30 in a short space of time.
Any kitbashing for chindits?
@@josephvanuxem9671 Wargames Atlantic has an STL for Chindits, you can print the head & use the Commando bodies.
@@thepiratepenguin4465 what is STL?
Awesome video as always 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Quick question if i may, what colours would you recommend to represent the “pinks & Greens” US army uniform of WWII?
Thank you
Great tutorial! I've used a mix of this video and your New Zeeland to create my 14th army. I was wondering what colour would you use to paint the helmets for non-Sikhs soldiers?
Refractive Green - sometimes listed as Retractive Green, depending on when the bottles were made.
Another very informative video on a niche WW2 force - big thumbs up from me! Particularly liked learning about how to paint the skin tones of those Sikh warriors.
Would the green grey also be a close approximation of a Canadian uniform as well do you think?
Glad to hear it! It's a video where I'd tried to squeeze in a couple of useful things no matter what folks might be doing.
On the Canadian uniform, I'm honestly not too sure. A lot of sources insist that it was a strong green colour, but most of the reproductions - and originals, though faded - don't look all that green to me. Slightly more green than straight British-produced woolen battledress, but not super 'green' green, if that makes sense. I'm still not 100% on how I'd choose to tackle the Canadians, beyond possibly adding a thinned-down wash of some greenish shade over the uniform. Something I still need to experiment with!
A great tutorial. Thank You! A quick question... What did you use for the arms when you kitbashed this guy. The Burmese Campaign use basically, as modelled here, .303 No1, MkIII, but the Commando box you said you used uses the .303 No4. That's where my confusion lies. This guy has the older .303 1 Mk III, but also has the long sleeve shirt of the Commando pack. (The 8th Army has short/ rolled sleeves in the kit) Are these individual arms with a gun added or a paired set from another set. I hope my question makes sense... Thanks again..
This guy's using the arms from the Commando box - the only part I used from another kit was his head. The only difference is that I've clipped the little pig sticker bayonet from the end and trimmed the barrel back slightly so it's closer to flush with the end of the rifle, but it's definitely from the same Commando kit as all the body.
This is "sikh".....