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Just why is the Volkswagen T-Roc so popular?!
Since first unveiling the T-Roc just 6 years ago VW has sold more than 112,000 T-Rocs in just the UK alone! In fact, in just 2023 alone, more T-Rocs were sold in the UK than the combined number of Polestar, Genesis, Bentley, Alfa Romeo, Jeep & Subarus sold in the same year!
Well, Mat’s about to take a closer look to see just what makes the T-Roc so popular. Some things are fairly obvious, such as the design. It may be a pretty standard crossover SUV, but it comes with a good few design cues to help it stand out. It’s also pretty well built, so even just opening and closing the doors helps the car feel solid.
What’s more, its small size means it’s pretty easy to drive around town, and helps even the more cautious driver squeeze through smaller gaps and into small parking spaces.
However, it’s not all rosy. For example, while the entry-level T-Roc isn’t too expensive, costing around £28,000, the price can easily rise up into the mid-£40,000! The car we have here, for example, isn’t even the top-spec car, but with a couple of options added it costs north of £41,000! When you consider what other family-friendly cars you can pick up for that price, we’re not sure if they offer the best value for money!
And while it’s ok to drive in town, once you hit a dual carriageway or country road, the pick-up and responsiveness of the gearbox and engine leaves a little bit to be desired. There’s also a lack of hybrid engine options, too!
So will Mat think it’s good value for money? Or will he choose an alternative instead? Stick around and see for yourself!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:37 Sales
00:59 Design
01:47 Driving
03:19 Back Seats
04:13 Town Driving
05:27 Parking
06:11 Interior Tech
08:33 Price
10:41 0-60mph
11:36 Gearbox & Engine
15:12 Interior Quality
15:52 Boot
17:03 Interior Updates
18:07 Verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Man what world are we living in!?!
£41k for a jacked up Golf!
Reversing Camera and keyless entry are optional!!
...And that isn't even the fast R spec!!! 🤯
Kia Sportage (5th gen) for that price includes 360 cameras / keyless and much more comfortable and modern interior (especially with GT-Line spec) and in total it will be cheaper than T-Roc
@@AkruraKia Sportage alone also has 30bhp more than VW T-ROC.
Depressing when the previous gen golf gti was only 30k new and you can pick them up for 20 now
Well to be fair it starts with 27k€
Brand new small Golf price tells me, VW wants you to buy a crossover instead.
£42k for a car with scratchy plastic interior 💀
IT COSTS ALMOST 60K Pounds in India!!
edit: They cost 30k pounds. Confused it with the skoda karoq(both were cbu units)
exactly!! Caddy got better interior!
Still it’s sells so well its crazy
Well, t roc buyers dont care…
And frankly even as a bmw driver I dont really care if everything is soft although it of course is
@@nithinsenthilkumar9954 uhh no? isnt the audio q2 also around 40-50k ( converted)
paying 400 quid for keyless entry is basically paying to make your car easier to steal.
Unless you get a ghost immobiliser of course
no decent theft would steal t-roc
The system uses UWB and analyses the signal transmission time in order to prevent the remote unlock with a range extender. So no, the car won't be easier to steal with Kessy. 😄
That alfa romeo giulia infront is a peace of art
I agree! And a tidy used example , is yours for £10-15k. No contest .
Yup
Just unreliable
Yup
There are reliable nowadays at least
Own one 😊
Not true anymore@@boyasaka I've had 2 Alfas and they've been stellar. My VWs and BMWs have all had massive reliability issues! Your should try an Alfa - they are EPIC ;)
When you have no idea, just don't talk.@@boyasaka
£28k is a piss take for a city run around.
£41K is beyond stupid pricing. you'd need your brains extracting to pay that price.
some people are complete morons to pay that
Looks like over 100,000 people in the UK have had their brains extracted. A guy at the last place I worked bought one of these because him and his Mrs liked their UK breaks and 'needed more space' for when they went away with their dog. After their first getaway in the t-roc they realised it wasn't that big after all.... and then, after a few years they bought another. Amazing.
Morons will buy anything on PCP
@@d_mac3233 plenty of other better deals out there rather than help VW pay off their dieselgate fine and us VW car buy back schemes that each future VW purchaser helps pay towards in VW inflated purchase price
@@d_mac3233I love that ‘need more space’ argument if you need that much room buy an estate
u ride the bus buddy
That Giulia in front! ❤
Apparently the Giulia Sprint Speciale in the front and Subaru Legacy Wagon at the back of the T-ROC.
I have also watched video only because of that Giulia :P
the giulia is one of their cars. it's in every video. I think its time Mat give it proper respect.
looks so good
@@purwantiallan5089 there's no Subaru Legacy Wagon at the back of the T-ROC.
T-cross, T-roc, Taigo, Tiguan... All the same VW blandness.. So boring and similar vehicles in every aspect.. Adding the fact that VWs reliability isn't so great anymore and the prices of their models is so high makes me wonder who really is buying those cars..
all the same but at least they’re not shit, and most of them are bought in a way called project value, where essentially you get the car for 3 years paying in installments and then you get to choose whether to pay the full remaining price of the car and keep it or change it with another vw
Agreed I don’t understand the appeal. Older year model Audi for the same price will be a better buy
Agreed VW is a complete failure. Toyota are much brtter
9:30 £300 for a space saver spare wheel is just madness! They should give you that for free, in stead of their crazy tire fix kit thingies that never work so they add a subwoofer. The subwoofer won't get you home when stranded at the side of the road.
That’s Volvo XC40 money! Ouch!
At Poland and Serbia it even costed $70.500.
@@purwantiallan5089Wtf are u saying/writing ?! I'm from Serbia and T-Rock's price wasn't over 35 K euros.
In 2018 I was deciding between XC40 a T-ROC. T-roc was smaller, slower, with less standard equipment, while costing the same. VW is crazy
I was just going to say. I got a 2L, 250BHP Xc40 for that cost.
@@frantisekcocek5262 It has Nissan Juke effect. First gen Juke was an absolute best seller purely because of design. Zero practicality (very cramped, poor tech) and reliability (Jatco CVT) but ladies LOVED it purely for its questionable looks.
Matt is right about the DSG7 gearbox. I have the same on my Yeti and it's the car's only major flaw. The 1.5 second lag is borderline dangerous until you learn to make allowances. VW must be aware of this flaw but they have never rectified it.
I had 2 cars with dsg7. In normal mode, they can be caught sleeping very frequently. On my 2.0tfsi Arteon, I found Eco mode downright dangerous in urban environments when waiting my turn for roundabouts etc. it can also be jerky at low speeds in traffic and similar. I changed to Audi with a ZF8 transmission and I fell in love, much smoother than the DSG.
1.5 second lag dangerous? Lol you should drive an aygo
What's wrong with a traditional torque converter? It seems to be the way to go for reliability
@@VilianAtmadzhov which Audi comes with ZF8 transmission?
A torque converter probably uses a teaspoonful of extra fuel and half a fart of extra CO2, so they went with the DSG, even though it's inferior to a good torque converter gearbox.@@sha22276
I’ve had a few R Line vw’s over the last decade or so and most of the extras you mentioned here used to be standard equipment. This is a £35k as equipped here at most. You need to keep the gearbox in S mode for it to be half decent - standard D mode is terrible, I almost crashed the first day I had a golf with this gearbox.
My wife has one,2018 , R-line white with black roof and 1.5 TSI 150bhp 6 speed manual. It has a little over 150k km on the clock and so far no problems, it was a very good car. It cost me ~25-26k € when I got it brand new in 2017/2018.
So it was 10k cheaper back then? Or just inflation? I'm not following UK economics :D
@@gentle285 They were cheaper but mine doesn't have so many extra options added...it came R-line without anything extra, even the white paint was standard.
@@mrmrmrcaf7801 amazing what you people pay for these Germans cars
150,000kms in 6 and a bit years - that is a lot of driving.
@@mondotv4216 yeh its online people chat any crap
My unpopular comment is incoming! I bought a T-Roc Sport in Ireland in 2019 and I absolutely love it. It was about €33k which is about £28k. It came with a technology pack which included a panoramic roof, winter pack, reversing camera, updated infotainment, etc. It's a fantastic car, haven't had any trouble out of it yet. My favourite feature is the auto-hold and adaptive cruise control. I wish it had a heated windscreen which my previous 2010 Ford Fiesta Titanium had.
My T-Roc has the older screen embedded into the dash and the proper controls. I'll definitely not switch it any time soon.
T-Roc Sport in UK now costed like $60.000.
@@purwantiallan5089 yeah! They are a lot more expensive now! I think I did well when I bought it. (Also got a 0% interest at the time). So no plans to switch.
Bought 1 for wife in 2019 and she's happy and loves it
Just love adaptive cruise, no point in having ordinary cruise with people jumping in front of you or you catching people up on motorways.
@@tomrad2827Make her buy it herself next time, then see if she's still happy!
I hired a 2.0 ltr AWD version for one week on holiday, D/Normal mode is unresponsive, I found myself switching between modes often and basically keeping it on sport mode on the motorways. It's a decent car, definitely worth considering it. Height and Size is spot on.
Hired or rented I'm wondering
Ah, no wonder! I always honked at those T-Rocs. I thought they were bullying me by not pulling out. Didn't know they came with a factory broken geearbox 😅
you're insane
It’s a Volkswagen. Of course you need to honk at them 😂
Recently bought a 2020 2litre r-line with awd. Absolutely love everything about it. Like every vehicle in the world, its a compromise, but one that is rightfully popular with lots of people.
Blows my mind why these are popular… build quality is trash 🤦🏽♂️
I drive the T-roc’s close cousin, the Taigo.
Mine is the base model Life and it has all the old equipment listed in the old T-roc with buttons on the wheel and a manual climate control.
The Load Cover fits under the false floor and is a very capable car and great for the regular tip runs I do. The car also messes with your eyes as from a front end view it looks wide, when in reality it is as wide as a polo (its sister model).
It is quite underrated for what it is to be fair, having all the older equipment while being quite a new model. It’s a great intermediate.
Edit: From my 10,000 miles I’ve driven it the average MPG I get out of it on motorway drives and duel carriageways is 50 mpg. That’s quite good for a 1L petrol manual.
id rather have a toyota
That’s nice. @@hassyg4083
Those quad fake exhaust and the actual exhaust tucked and hidden underneath is the most tragic thing
I'd pass on that fakery alone.
I have a 2023 plated R. Its a fantastic car. Its basically a Golf R on stilts. Its a great little bit of kit IMO.
Get some lowering springs into her. And they look quite great.
I will add I did not pay the ticket price. I got a fleet pricing, and it was also an ex demo.
D mode absolutely sucks for stop start travel. Just drive it in S. D is for freeways IMO
I own the pre-facelift 2.0 TDI (150hp) with DSG and still get a bit of a lag in gear changes when flooring it. The workaround is not to go full pedal to the metal, but just press it progressively. The gearbox seems to downshift too much when you floor the throttle.
The workaround sounds like a reason to sell it.
@@SammyInnit it's a company car with 1 year left on lease. will not get another T-roc, for sure :)
@@stefanp.9222 What were your options?
best to get Toyota
Exactly the same with my golf 1.5tsi. DSG needs gentle accelerator inputs. Hates being floored. Have to remember it's not really a true auto. It's an automated manual car using a clutch. You don't hold your foot to the floor in a manual when feeding in the clutch or you'll rev the nuts off it. No difference here.
Have to agree with you on the engine / gearbox. I have an Audi Q3 40TFSI and the 35 TFSI suffers from the exact same automatic gearbox issue and to be honest, even the 40 TFSI isn’t perfect. Going manual does solve the issue and also the 40 TDI is probably the sweet spot. Live and learn.
I solved the problem with an Audi quattro and ZF8 transmission. No wheel spin, and no jerkiness. Had 2 cars with dsg7 before that
@@VilianAtmadzhov yeah I mean I went Quattro with the 40 TFSI so also dodged the wheel spin but it can still be slow to pickup in some gears. But it’s the 7 speed auto for me not the ZF8
Toyota no issues
@@hassyg4083 I mean that’s true for some models but not all. I’ve driven a few Aygo’s that acted the same 🤷♂️
you guys need to give up on German brands finessing you and ignore Carwow they are heavy German funded
My family got this exact model a few months ago and we're pretty happy with it so far. It's nothing crazy but it's above average in almost everything, and it has some nice features as standard. Best thing I would say is how quiet the ride is and how rigid the car feels in general. Here in Greece the price was €37,500 (2023) with a few extras, now it would cost over €39,000 for the same configuration, which is too much for this car.. I think the main attraction is the looks and the badge. Solid overall.
That delayed acceleration is the same in my Q2 with that engine and auto. Pulling out of junctions feels really dangerous at times. They'll be a delay upon putting your foot down, then it'll crawl out, then you panic and then all the power comes out of nowhere. We thought there was a fault. I always put it in sport at junctions now.
It's going this year. Everything is an option. My better halfs Citroen C1 has more equipment!
Stupid swipe/slide controls. That's a no-no for me, I even hated them in my ID.4.
Yeah, because you’re not supposed to be adjusting ANYTHING while actually driving so it really makes no REAL difference what kind of controls are in the car
The slide/swipe control on Hyundai Tiburon even can do better than T-ROC.
@@berniesutton7277so you pull over to adjust the AC ?
But hey, touch controls look better in press photos and on a designer's screen. They are also cheaper to manufacture than proper physical controls and the required wiring for them. Who cares about driving safety or the dynamic lighting environments cars actually get driven in, with all the reflections from the scratchy "piano black" plastic everywhere
@@berniesutton7277only if you have no mental capacity to do anything other than drive. If that's the case, you shouldn't be on the road 🫡
My 18 year old Touran is only SLIGHTLY longer. Seats 7, can carry far more & is very spacious & 200% more flexible. Why do people like the T-Rock, I don't get it.
Ladies love its design. The same was with 1st gen Juke and it was even way, way worse than T-Roc.
It is all about subjective feelings about the design. The T-Roc is rated as very likeable and pretty.
It’s fashion. You’re right. Your car is objectively better. But people think SUVs make them look more important.
FRFR. I will mourn the day they ACTUALLY cease production on the Touran. We have a 2011 1.6 TDi and 330.000km, no major problems. Engine runs fine, not burning oil, 5-5.5L/100km mileage. Rust spots are present, but not an issue for road safety check. Had to replace the rear springs because of rust, that was 80eur per piece + labor. Tire size of 195/65/15 is dirt cheap. Bought Goodyear Effcient Grip 2 XL for 60eur/tyre.
Ppl that are 180cm tall can sit in every seat, no problem(we have the 5 seater), almost 800L boot space and almost 2000L when rear seats folded down. Reasonably quiet up to 150km/h. 600kg load capacity and up to 1500kg trailer capacity
All in a package that is a tad bit longer than a Golf. I have NO IDEA why families stopped buying them.
The way the MPV market has almost disappeared is so depressing.
I've got this engine DSG combination in a golf 7.5 and what you don't do is floor it. That works in my other car. A cooper S but not here. From a standstill you will wheel spin. Overtaking you'll have a kickdown that revs the car to 5000 rpm and gives you a lot of noise with what sounds like a slipping clutch for the first second before you make fairly decent progress. What you do instead is press your foot down about half way, shifts down to about 3000rpm and pulls strongly and quietly. You won't wheel spin from a start. Trouble is your instinct if one needs power says floor it and that doesnt work! If ive just driven the mini especially. Im tempted to do what lots do and tape over the kickdown switch which just seems awfully calibrated. But even worse was the audi 2.0tdi i had as a hire car with the same box. That shifted down to 4000rpm in kickdown leaving me pretty much no power whatsoever until it shifted up. You're right in that the configuration is wrong because the sweet spot of the 1.5t is about 2500 to 4500rpm. Any higher and you get more noise without performance. Over 5000 it runs out of puff. Economy wise you're looking at about 35 in town and 50 on a long trip, 42 overall. Once the engine is run in. I can't imagine the TROC being much worse. I have read that some have remapped the gearbox with very good results.
I have a new T Roc Style model (1.4) and love it. Best car I’ve ever owned. It’s the perfect Goldilocks size - not too large or small. I chose it over the new BMW X1, which I found too big and because the X1 touchscreens are atrocious to use while driving.
I don’t notice any lag while driving the T Roc. I think Matt has gotten so used to EVs that he expects ICEs to perform the same way. Long live the T Roc, it’s a fabulous all rounder.
The gearbox acceleration delay you described is present in almost all automatic dualclutch cars. Some do it better, but overall it's the same problem. They're also quite hippitiy hoppitiy in stop and go traffic, kinda annoying. Torque converters are much more comfortable when accelerating off a standstill.
Na, no one ever complained about a Porsche PDK. I recently drove a VW Polo 1.2 with a DSG, it was super smooth, not jerky at all.
Dsg works fine in Korean cars
no delay in Toyota CVT
There are plenty of DSGs with both dry and wet clutches which don't have this kind of lag...
@@rkan2 shocking 100 years of cars and they still make cars with faults
Same gearbox + engine problem is on most VAG cars. even the Audi SQ8 has that input lag problem. it is because of emission standards. tuners are able to tweak the programming and get rid of it
Yes, I have the car and that lag is there
Insane price. You're better off with a Duster plus older sports car and you'd still have money left
My wifes had a 2018 2.0 TFSI 4motion for the last 5 years and loves it. They are a good steer and the higher power cars have the DQ381 gearbox that is more responsive. I had a Golf R and the Troc can be thrown around just as much. Its surprisingly capable on a bumpy B road. I would never go for the R though or the R line as the suspension needs to be a bit soft for such a car.
I would whoop your a$$ with my Countryman Cooper on that B road ❤
So it's not just me... We have the 1.5 karoq and I hate roundabouts now, gearbox is TERRIBLE
Nope. Got same issue with my golf DSG 1.5 turbo. Solution is not to floor it. Avoid hitting the kickdown switch. Use about half throttle and it accelerates quickly and smoothly. Forget and use full throttle and it panics, wheel spins and makes a lot of noise.
@@paultasker7788 Exactly this we have the Q3 40TFSI and it's the same minus the wheel spin
@@paultasker7788 I have not noticed that it behaves any different when you try to accelerate slowly or smoothly. Same second or two delay when you want to get going from a stand still. It responds fine if you are already rolling.
@CoreMaster111 could that be the electric handbrake release time? That isn't that quick and the stop start makes things slower still. Always disable that at busy junctions. And also you can restart the engine simply by turning the wheel slightly without needing to move. Although I have a carista obd2 Bluetooth reader and I've changed a couple of settings. One for handbrake release and one for accelerator response (time or position sensitive, I've put it to position sensitive).
Have mine Golf Sportsvan 1.5 tsi with 6 speed manual and It's flawless. Never regret buying it. DSG is overpriced junk.
Thanks Matt, I will ensure to pretend to give way to T-roc'er's and then speed up to get some free insurance claims @12:42 lol
On point with the delay. I drive a Taigo and experience the same delay when it is on 2nd gear trying to quickly launch
I’ve found the trick with this gearbox, lightly push your foot down until it locks into gear then push the foot down further and it stays in the gear. If you just slam the foot down it disengages the gearbox, speeds up the engine then reengages it. Driving normally I don’t notice any issues, but driving with the start stop system is very dangerous. I’ve been at a slip road and the engine has shut down and I’ve tried to accelerate through a gap and the car wouldn’t move for about a second which is very unsafe. There is a way to get around it, ensuring you give light throttle at first then gradually increase, or using the paddle shifters.
Spot on and I've given pretty much the same advice regarding never flooring it. The stop start is linked to radar cruise and it it thinks the vehicle infront is stationary it'll kill the engine. Only for it to immediately move off. You then face 2 seconds whilst computer realises it needs to restart the car. If you're near a busy junction disable the stop start or keep slightly moving the wheel because that will stop engine switching off as well as power steering needs engine power
Good advice. I only use stop start at level crossings or lights where you know it could be a long wait. Throttle control is key. Once you get used to it mine flies. Have been disappointed with the grip of the Mitches though.
@@WilliMar36 yeah. Very poor. I swapped them out for Goodyear all season tyres having got used to them in the previous car. Wouldn't go back to summer tyres now. Definitely not eco tyres. The grip from the Goodyear's in the wet below 10 degrees (which is very common in North East England) is very confidence inspiring. With the Michelin eco tyres was wheel spinning all the time.
Ultimate NPC wagon
I know an estate full of unemployed people claiming this as their motability car.
Enjoying the mixture of content on the channel 👍👍👍
Spare wheel should be standard. Not an optional extra in my opinion.
Regarding the 1.5 engine, have vw fixed the kangarooing problem on coldstarts yet?
Mad that the 8.4 sec 0-60 with a bit of lag at the beginning is EXACTLY the same performance of the superb 90's SAAB 900 TURBO. And we all thought that car was a beast! Maybe we need to all slow down a bit,
I'm surprised this got a better verdict than the Puma 3 years ago. Maybe you could do a comparison? And maybe bring a Mokka and a Mazda CX as well? Cheers! 🧡
Legally they can't. They'd be responsible for the ensuing narcolepsy outbreak from making the most boring video possible. Crossovers are utterly pointless, you'd have to be a complete mug to buy one. They're literally worse than any other body style and have no benefits.
I have the same issue with accelerating out from roundabouts or junctions in my Taigo. Same engine and same systems. Even in sports mode there's a delay
I had the 1.5 in a manual A3, the hesitation was there when new but seemed to go after a bit of mileage, it's as if the engine was so finely tuned it wasn't happy with a new, tight engine. Fuel consumption and power improved with mileage as well!
I’ve always thought the T-Roc rear end looks like an Austin Allegro.
Austin Mini Cooper Allegro?
Thinking more Austin Maestro .
Perfect retirement car 😂
Boomer car you mean 😂
More like perfect starter car man.
@@purwantiallan5089A starter car that costs 30-40k GBP? 😂 Yeah, that's not the norm
@@purwantiallan5089 Starter car is a used car, Audi A3, Skoda Octavia, the good old Golf IV, V or VI etc
That stupid ugly ass looking lifted Golf costs ~35k new?! In what world is that a starter car? It's ass, you can get yourself a used S-class W/V 222 for that money and enough saved up to even repair it.
I'm 27 and I this car is perfect for me, don't be so harsh lmao
Yep I agree with matt, MY07 Subaru is a dual manual (10 forwards and 2 reverse) I can preselect the right gear (or intermediate gear) as required ahead of the difficulty ahead!!!
if you want a nippy little fourdoor hartchback i recommend the Skoda citigo IV ev. Great little car with just what u need as basics. cheap to buy, cheap to insure. cheap to tire it up for the seasons as well.
Not me checking carwow everyday for the new Tiguan...
The Tiguan has better wheelbase than T-Roc.
Don't worry. The new Tiguan will be as stupid as all the Tiguans before that. Don't get me wrong. The Tiguan is a good SUV, but SUV's are stupid ;-)
@Petroelhead They're not that good. They're about average. Having driven several different competitor SUVs, they're just bang average. Nothing remarkable, nothing to write home about.
@@SammyInnit COuld be. But the thing is. SInce all SUV's are stupid, a good SUV's is only an average car by definition ;-) A Tiguan make's sense if you wan't a VW and A: Need to put 3 Child seats in your car. or B: You need a towing capacity of 2.3 tonns instead of 2.0. Everything other than that buy a Passat ;-)
@@PetroelheadIt's very evident u live in a country with great roads. From where I am from a passat would ground out on a recurring basis. Also there's this thing called preference that people have. Higher ride height, more practicality and even design are some of the things people desire in SUVs. Don't be so narrow minded and hate on SUVs. Both sedans and SUVs are great and I am a sedan person myself
I just watched a review of the new Dacia Duster before watching this and I would take that (at about half the price) over this £41K T-Roc. And I don't know why some people still think VW make 'solid' cars. They just aren't built to last and hence aren't good value for money. I've had small things often fail on VWs that costs a lot to fix like torn CV boots, suspension bushes going, water leaks etc. Things that just don't fail on Japanese cars that I've also owned. And if you're looking to go EV, for £41K you can buy the new Telsa Model 3 RWD.
I own a T-roc. A friend of mine owns a Duster. The Duster is great, but when you add all the extras you need you end up with a car that's close to the base spec T-Roc price wise. And the base T-Roc is better than the most equipped Duster by a huge margin - road nosie, seat comfort, road manners, suspension, handling, interior space, tech, cargo space, build quality, active and passive safety - you name it, the T-Roc does it better. Apart from heavy off-roading, of course.
The 2017 edition
2l 4motion diesel
Has launch control and all the mods.
It is fabulous on and off road
And the issue’s in the video
Is not with the 2017 auto edition…
But that version has paddle shifters and more
But the petrol edition is faster off the line…
But they are front drive
My Amarok 4cyl diesel was picking the wrong gear when I floored it at some speeds so I edited the gearbox mapping to prevent shifting into a low gear where the engine be revving over 3800rpm because the engines max rpm is only 4500rpm.
also changed 1st gear max rpm to 3000 and 2nd to 3800rpm and the rest 4300rpm that greatly improved its 0-100kmh time
This car is almost 50% more expensive than 3 years ago.
Everything is, everyone is taking the piss on prices.
Carwow turn off unskippable ads 🤦♂️
We bought a 20 plate Seat Ateca with the same gearbox and engine combination and that dead spot is more than disconcerting, it’s down right dangerous. That big moment of nothing is a major problem especially when you’re at a junction. Plenty of space to hop through a big gap of on coming traffic and I mashed the accelerator and it took so long that the on coming traffic was at the junction before it started to accelerate. I think it’s because the 1.5tsi switches off 2 cylinders a lot of the time and the time it take to switch them on and the gearbox to react is likely cause of this dead gap of reaction.
The delay in the 1.5tsi engines across all VW, Audi. Skoda and Seat models is the very reason people like me searched out a late model 1.4tsi instead. I found out from searching car forums just before I nearly bought a Leon FR 1.5, so glad I found a 1.4 instead!
Spot on assessment of the DSG I had one in a karoq and sold it after 2 weeks and bought a maual
This is the same price as I've just paid for an Audi A4 S line 40 TFSI...CRAZY
Comes with a free pair of Sketchers and a cagoule
Or Dry Robe and inflatable hot tub
@@markwat5958yup hateful car driven mainly as a second family car by the types you mentioned above. The few occasions i drove my mates missus one I realised the golf 7 gtd I had at the time was vastly superior in every way dynamically except ease of entry if you are fat or lazy.
Wow ! Has the cagoule got toggles ?
Not a owner but rented one for a month. Loadcover can fit under the floor AND that floor cover can drop lower by 20cm to increase the boot size by a lot.
Save yourself alot of money and get a Suzuki S Cross of Vitara in their mild hybrid guise. You get a more responsive engine and gearbox, better fuel economy, longer lasting hard plastics, better boots(ignore that litres nonsense, the T Rocs boot is shorter in height than both cars ive mentioned), you get the tech you need with less of the stuff you dont, buttons and knobs for the climate control and the only extras are cosmetic stuff and a spare wheel(that doesnt cost as much as whats on offer with the T Roc) not things like push button start which should be standard ( and is on the S Cross).
It's not a bad car. But it should cost 50% of its price.
40k list price = £600 a year road tax! Way too much for a bread and butter car.
i got the old version of T-Roc R (2020) 3 days ago and its amazing!
You can get around the gearbox issue by pulling back the stick and yanking it into sport whenever you want to accelerate hard. It will do the job nicely.
The T-Roc is a hugely popular woman's car in my country. I guess the cute, boxy shape combined with some edges to make it look somewhat cool must be hugely appealing. A lot like the Ford Puma you mentioned. It's also the logical successor to the Golf, which is also one of the most popular cars, with the current SUV trend.
I have to note that despite not being a luxury interior and having a rather hefty price tag, the interior is built very robustly. The driving is not too bad and it is a good car to live with. I was impressed at vw not worsening their build quality.
One of the reasons Matt is so good at what he does is the fact that he wears Scarpa boots, superb and practical taste.
Curious to know if people who have older 1.4 with DSG have the problem or if its just the 1.5 that is affected. Ive only had a manual 1.4 but i think the 1.4 was a smoother engine that was more economical in town and more responsive although less punchy in the mid range
I thought to buy the T roc R but finally I bought a 8 year old audi rsq3
Why'd you choose a Lululemon, soccer mom SUV?
@@redline589 I like large and fat
Thats what she said
Better then you're fiat 500@@redline589
@@Bertha076BMW M4, but thanks for playing.
@@Bertha076FIAT 500 1965 still better than T-ROC actually.
I had a new golf ordered and cancelled it after it was delayed further and was not going to wait a year .
Why they cancelled the new Golf VII GTi btw?
@@purwantiallan5089but they didn’t ? Its got a facelift
My gtd was ordered at the beginning of December and I was told 3 to 5 months. How long was your car ordered.
What was the wait time for a T-Roc? What did you choose in the end?
@@gentle285 Toyota C-HR
I own the facelifted T-roc (2.0 R Line + 4Motion + 7 speed DSG). Much better in terms of turbo lag / responsiveness. Agreed though regarding boot space and some interior trims.
One thing that actually doesn't bother me, is the touch sensitive control buttons. You can actually still press each icon on the steering wheel as a normal button, and for the climate control, you can simply tap each icon to change the setting. You don't need to actually slide anything lol
The gearbox issue also plagues the Mercedes GLB 200 which also uses a 7 speed DCT. It was also a problem with Fords powershift gearbox.
VW quality has fallen even further, the interior is horrendous
Which era they had quality?
@@arkanraznatovic5444 Moustache man era
@@mrk5579 just reliability...
Bruh 😂😂😂@@mrk5579
@@arkanraznatovic5444Lol, good one!🤣
Had a test drive...Horrible interior, hard to close boot, very unstable, wobbly and top heavy around corners. We went with Mazda CX5... its like night and day... we paid £13500 for a 2016 model and totally love it. Top spec.... stunning car
CX5 is way nicer, better quality and reliability.
I had a test drive in a Mazdfa CX5, it smelt like a hundred dirty underpants and the pedals were offset far too much to the left. The seats were flimsy and rock hard. I guess it's all subjective.
@@NedNew true certain things are subjective, yet the CX-30 and CX-5 are objectively better cars in various ways.
@@NedNew yeah absolutely... we have the automatic 2.2 diesel AWD.. great car
it was too slow for my liking
Does the parcel shelf, hang from the rear interior handles behind the front seat like the Tiguan when you have the rear seats folded?
Tight parking spot!!! Matt you could get an aircraft carrier in there 😂 great video keep it up
They didn't sell 120.000 T-Roc's for 42k. The base model is 28k and you can get a model with decent optionals for 32k.
And discounts
Still not cheap for what is
you can actually park a bus in there Mat
Why they can park a bus in there?
@@purwantiallan5089Because Jose Mourinho
I guess the lag between the engine and the gearbox in "D" mode is because of fuel efficiency. I have a Tiguan Allspace R Line 2021 2.0 with DSG7. When I use the sport mode, this lag almost disappears.
Load cover can fit between the front seats and folded rear seats on any car
How is scanning a QR code that’s on the screen easier than a simple link? I don’t get it
Maybe it's for people who watch it on their TV? Idk, it never made sense to me
@@arsalanafrozyeah its for people who watch on their tv
It makes it easier for those watching from their Smart Tv's
@@arsalanafrozyes, it's for people watching on TVs, though I doubt that's a big enough part of the audiance to make it worth including the QR code
@@tebogokgailewell did they watched it from Google TV?
They scam the hell out of you people, its top specs version of 1.5 Turbo only cost £15500 in China.
Who wants to live in PRC?
They should make the plastics around the rear window such a shape that the load cover clips into it. Good place for storage and keeps privacy in the boot.
The way to drive these 1.5t DSGs (have golf 7) is to not floor it. That's like dialing in 5000rpm in a manual and dropping the clutch. It's set up to accelerate briskly with light to moderate throttle inputs. That also means less downshifting and less lag. I tried this technique this morning and everything got left for dust at the lights. To overtake quickest do it manually. Shift down so revs are about 3000 and press accelerator hard but not so hard that you activate the badly designed kickdown which downshifts to give one 5000rpm (no power up there just noise, this engine is all about midrange). I'm tempted to tape over the kickdown switch because it's rubbish, or again just use about half throttle and it'll shift down one or two gears which is usually enough. If it has to shift down 3 gears it's slow to do so. Again if joining a busy roundabout just apply a little throttle. That's enough. Floor it and the gearbox will panic probably shift into first and wheel spin. Doesn't take long to get used to it but fight or flight response to floor it is useless here. Lag is like 0.5 seconds without using kickdown (turbo lag) and 1.5 with kickdown. It's not really an auto. It's really an automated manual. Very smooth in general use but one can catch it out. Power is pretty consistent between 2500 and 5000rpm so you don't need high revs. Mild hybrid ETSI engines seem better for initial response.
I'm currently learning to drive in a VW Polo and it has the exact same delay as this T-Roc even though it's a manual
Did the CHASER X540 has a manual gearbox?
@@purwantiallan5089 I believe that was automatic
Ah mate that sucks with the delay, hope your drivings going good mate :) im currently learning aswell
@@Trucker-Moosey I am doing well thanks and I'm very close to being ready for my driving test
@@danielharr01clips i passed in a Vauxall. much better cars to learn in
I wonder if the SUV thing will decline. It's certainly no better than a Golf, but it is a nice solid vehicle.
If spouses grow, maybe.
I think a main reason that the T-Roc sells so good is that its on the base of the Golf 7. The Golf 8 is also on the base of the Mk 7 but has many problems with the software which the T-Roc didn't have. So people which look for a car in that section may choose the T-Roc before the Golf. Also a point could be that the Sportsvan is not offered anymore so they choose also the T-Roc.
We run a driving school and have mainly Golf 7. We also have 2 Sportsvan and 1 T-Roc. I prefer the Sportsvan before the T-Roc. Its better in the overview on the rear and the interior quality is better. We soon need replacement for 2 older cars so we will order 2 T-Roc. Especially because the Golf 8 has still software issues as our dealer says and other schools have had many problems with it. So it's the only option for us. VWs are still the best choise for driving schools. They are not perfect but they work mainly good (except of the Golf 8).
Greetings from Germany.
Hi Mat, can you please review the top of the range of the T - Roc, bye thank you.
now these guys are even copying carwow Germany
Hope this is sarcasm
My thoughts 😂
@@Marinalin85well, this exact format started on the Carwow Germany channel. But copying is not the right word since this is the same company.
@@Marinalin85 nope, the germans reviewed the T-Roc nearly 5 months ago, with the same topic in their video as the title here and trashed the car similarly, it's like mat and his team are running out of ideas/being lazy and looked over to their german buddies for inspo
@@dr-ok3sn its the same company...whoever writes the ideas let "the germans" run first with it because they need to grow
The T-Roc is just a great design. A lot of practicability comes with it as well!
Additionally, the material are nowadays decently designed!
Toyota is better
Thank you for highlighting the problem I also have with my Audi Q2 2021 plate Auto , it is EXACTLY the same coming out of junctions and you need that bit of boost , and you get nothing but engine revs and one wheel spinning up ! ….. I hate it , and I will be changing to a manual car as soon as possible, I’ve had the car for 3 months now and I’ve had enough of it .
Hey matt ive been watching you for years obviously subscribed too really big fan
So i have a request i want you to review the new range rover evouque for us even tho its not much of a change only a face lift but i want to know is it worth buying over the 2020 did it really improve
It's easier for old people to get in and out of the car, because it's a bit higher than for example the Golf. That's why it sells so good. And older people have more money and can buy new cars.
Well it’s a very cheap car..
@@amedeogaspari7561compared to a Mercedes or BMW yeah you could say that
It depends thought, Both my Grandmothers find It Easier to get in a lower car like a Fiat Panda and 1998 Fiat Punto (which has quite a low Seat ) than an SUV. I as a 18 year old boy find It Easier in a lower car too! And Im not talking about an offroader ,a MG ZS. But i Will Always think that ruining your car fuel economy and pedestrian safety for getting a bit Easier in and out isn't worth It. Still i will Never understand why SUV took Place to compact minivans such as GOLF Sportsvan, old Golf + , Lancia Musa, Opel/Vauxhall Meriva, citroën C3 Picasso, Ford c-max, Honda Jazz/Fit and so on..
I had one of these for a day as a courtesy car while my Passat was having a service and actually quite liked it. Very easy to drive and the added height translated into rear legroom for my teenagers.
It’s easy for the press and TH-cam commentators to criticise but the reality is it sells well for good reasons, many listed by Matt in this video. Sales numbers matter, and a base T-Roc is £28k on the VW website before haggling.
Car manufacturers just need to stop with this touch-controls madness. They are harder to operate while driving and impossible to keep clean as everything is glossy black plastic. I am keeping my 2018 Audi for now, as Audi started doing this nonsense as well in the newer versions.
Also extra boot space and peace of mind around less-than stellar kerbs. Also ease of entry/exit for old people. There's much to like about the T-Roc.
I've got a Skoda Kamiq 110bhp.
A really good car, exept the fan is controlled by a horrible slider control on the screen.
I had the exact issue with the throttle deadspot in a 2020 Q3 I had that had what I’m assuming is the same or similar 1.5 petrol engine. I actually ended up getting rid of it after 18 months as it was that bad.
for me i like the Troc becouse it feels more like the Golf 7 then the Golf 8 and i think the Golf 7 was better built with better material and better layout the golf 8 feels abit cheap with it lack of buttons in the cabin and things like that
The T-roc was the first vehicle post diesel gate for VW where the cost cutting was initiated, mat made comments on the original video also and things such as the cup holders just being cubbies in the plastic with no actual cup holding ability highlighted the lack of investment. Of course you are correct and all the models now have this crap as do Audi, the A3 also got this treatment along with the door pockets and cards which have the same cheap generic moulded plastic you would expect on the floor, not the centre console and doors. It’s a shame really as I loved the Golf 7.5 and prior VW’s
I will say one reason it could be selling well is the fact the current Golf and other hatchbacks and sedans have gotten way to low for their own good and aren't practical for many people anymore. Look at the MK 1 Golf. It looks to have more ground clearance than even the T Roc. Now Golf's are slammed to the ground for no reason. These are suppose to be basic commuter cars. Yet automakers make them low and impractical to navigate poor quality roads thus among other reasons pushing consumers in areas with poor infrastructure to crossovers. The ride height and better roof lines are also selling points. However this car does seem to be lacking in those.
Same goes to Nissan CUBE 2002, Honda S800, and Honda S2000.
Well I would agree - but did the cars go lower or our perception higher? I like low cars, my wife likes high cars....
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722Same here.
I like low cars, but my local council likes high speed bumps. I end up going 5mph over them, causing even more air pollution and congestion in the 20mph zones they are usually in.
It’s a good point, especially if you think the ride height of a 90s hatch would now attract a SUV classification. The T-Roc makes a lot of sense to traditional Golf buyers.
I had a Skoda Rapid with the 7 gear DSG paired with a 90 hp diesel engine and I had the exact same problem with lag. Never really got on with that gearbox.
The Golf Variant station wagon is probably the most reasonable car to buy if you can get it as a plug in hybrid.