What does Christianity have to do with Human Rights?
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Over the past 2,000 years, Christianity has shaped the west into a free and prosperous society. The left and out popular culture seems to have forgotten this fact but there's plenty of reminders. Author Tom Holland and Drew point out the many historical impacts Christianity has had on western culture.
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In addition to playing Spider-Man, Tom Holland is a great author too.
The cgi they do to his face is unreal. Almost looks like a different person
You can’t have objective morality or rights without a belief in God. Period.
I know that annoys atheists and agnostics, but it’s true nonetheless.
Nietzsche, my favorite atheist, agreed with you. Check my other comment. Sadly, he rejected God and ended up in an insane asylum the last ten years of his life. His sister, who visited him, stated that he would quote scripture.
Once God is rejected, objective morality becomes survival of the fittest. And when applied to human behavior becomes survival of the most ruthless. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot proved this to be true by becoming the most powerful, famous and successful men in human history.
God bless, Michael
@@Goodkidjr43 Hitler wasn't an atheist, he viewed atheist as uneducated, and atheism as the state of the animals.
Why should that upset me? If morality is objective tell me what exactly is moral. You can't do that and since everyone thinks their morality is right it's more reasonable to assume that morality is subjective.
Also if morality came from god (stupid idea for christians as they don't commit genocide like they're supposed to) it would still be subjective.
So are there a thousand objective moralities? What about the ancient Greeks? Or polytheistics arbitrarily don't count?
What about Jews, are they "subjective" too despite basing their lives on the God of Abraham?
A question I ask is, If there is no God, why did John Gotti die in a Federal Prison Hospital?
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I love Andrew but I wish he would do a daily show like Michael and Matt do. Yea I’m selfish! Haha God bless
My skepticism and my belief are also in a constant dialogue, but I've still committed myself to the Church because I've seen what happens without it.
Pascal's wager.
More important than “rights” is responsibility.
Yes. We do not live in this world in isolation. The presence of others mean we have responsibility to each other (unlike in a single player video game where it's just you and soulless NPCs)
We cannot be authorities unto ourselves as individuals or as mankind either. We must submit ourselves to a higher power than us.
Great book by Roger Scrutiny is Being Human. He has a whole section on duty and obligations. It's really a good book and pretty short.
The guest is an honest intellectual. Modern moral instincts are Christian and not Enlightenment. Hope he comes around on the question of the truth of Christian revelation.
My favorite atheist, Nietzsche ridiculed those who believed that one could retain Christian Ethics (love thy neighbor, human rights) and jettison the Christian Dogma (Trinity, Resurrection, eternal life). This modernist attempt, resulted in Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
The secularization of the planet, as Klavan has pointed out, has resulted in a loss of human rights. The last two years has proven this.
I've been in the same internal battle as Tom for sometime now. I do believe in a higher power but its Christ I'm struggling with. I know Klavan went through the same journey and it was refreshing to hear that CS Lewis did to. I always remember Klavans wise words. "That's why it's called faith not knowledge"
I'm in the same situation. "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel has given me a lot to think about.
Klavan is wrong. Faith IS knowledge. You cannot separate the two. Jesus said, " I am the way, the truth and the light". Belief in God can be known through reason and not faith.
God bless, Michael
@@Goodkidjr43 faith is trust. Your reason still rests on trust.
If you want to learn how to trust Christ, do what he said to do. Love your brothers. Tame your passions. Pray, even if you don't yet understand how or to what/whom you're praying to. Read the scriptures, read the fathers, read modern commentators like Lewis. Do everything you can as a meditation on what God means and what Christ is, thinking with the mind, acting with the body, and you will eventually see with the real heart.
He will come for you.
Wishing you all peace for the journey
Swimming in Christianity is a great analogy - like a fish has no idea it is in water, but it would die without it. Civilization is slowly dying without Christ. I think that's crystal clear by now.
I grew up in a non-religious home my mom was not religious and my step dad my mom was married to at the time had pseudo Christian beliefs when I was a teenager I was Wiccan and new age for about 2 years, atheist for about 4 and 1/2 years and then I got saved when I was 18.
Tom Holland, the historian, is simply great. Awesome interview !
Happy new year to everyone, god bless y'all have a great year ahead ☺🎉
Love Tom Holland. I read 3 of his books: Rubicon, Persian Fire, and Shadow of the Sword. He brings history to life
GK Chesterton said over one hundred years ago in his book Orthodoxy that in a post-Christian world, the vices and the virtues would run wild and do a great deal of harm. I think we’re seeing that today.
Actually, the church that Jesus Christ started would say: Nothing!
The work of the church is to preach the Gospel of Christ, the saving grace of Christ and bring unsaved souls into the body of Christ. We are not to be secular and be part of this world. If you don’t like what I said I’m only saying the truth.
Of course for those of us who are part of the body of Christ we must help every single person who is in need of food, shelter and respect as well as love. That’s why we are supposed to tithe every month every year as long as we live.
Who is responsible for the rioting? We all are. Pastor John MacArthur explains:
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"Diversity" has never been a US value, Thank God. As diversity goes up, conflict and mistrust go up
@Lukas Lombardo So you are saying that USA is Nazi. Then get the hell out if you hate USA.
And of-course I am Canadian. I am laughing at the current state of USA right now.
@Lukas Lombardo That is not an answer.
Men and women are equal, not indistinguishable / identical.
Insightful. I respect the intellectual honesty of the author, not being a Christian himself, pointing so clearly to the positive influences of Christianity on culture.
Tom books on ancient Greece and Rome are great.
Persian fire is fantastic and his video on Herodotus at the Hay Festival.
20:00 I just woke up to this. It's either God, moral truth, and meaning, or nihilism and the abyss. Look at what staring into the void did to Nietzsche. I'm glad this secular man is at least willing to question his own secularism and wrestle with the idea of God and the divinity and our values.
Make Babylon Desolate Again
I have been listening to Holland's history podcast. Many of the topics are covered well and with whimsical charm. His podcast partner Dominic often pokes fun at Holland's respect for Christianity but sometimes he sneers at it. That is the hallmark of the new atheism--UK version. While Holland found the church "boring", new atheists (Hitchens, et al) openly ridicule Christianity and the church. (TBH, the Church of England is low hanging fruit for a variety of reasons.) I don't know if I'll go back to listening to Holland's podcast, however. I'm starting to find it "boring".
It's so sad to hear him say Christianity is boring. That sounds like he has never really understood what it's all about. God is NOT boring!
The liberalization of the Church of England has made some homilies very boring. The #ArchbishopofCanterbury, the leader of the C of E, recently declared the unvaxed to be "immoral". This instead of an advent sermon.
Andrew, please, you don’t have to keep this great interviews in 20 minutes segments! Go long form all the way! Sunday Special please!
Another great book in this realm - "Person of Interest" by J. Warner Wallace (cold case detective). He shows all the ways the person of Jesus Christ has influenced every aspect of our modern culture.
This reminds me of Revelation 3v2a "Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die."Written to The Church in Sardis - but may as well have been written to The West today.
Tom Holland was an in person mailbag letter who was asking for an answer. The Answer. Of all the times Klavan did not share what he knows...i hope the conversation continued off camera.
Thank you, Andrew. I didnt know he was a writer.
Right? I thought he was just the new Spider-Man.
Excellent 👍
Hawking Hitchens Dawkins Harris, Etc.... are all guilty of this fallacy
There more like Jacobins than they care to admit
The link you have to the full podcast doesn't go to the full podcast. And I cannot find it on DailyWire because every search for Tom Holland takes me to stupid spider-man articles. And I cannot find it on apple Podcasts either. :) HELP!
I didn’t know spiderman wrote books🤔
Hi Andrew!
The best pundit out there and this topic is one of my favorites
Great fan and love to Tommy's family.
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This guy looks like a lot of the busts of Roman generals and emperors I've seen in Europe, the eyes, nose, hair, etc. I'd love to see him reciting something in Latin in a Roman toga.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life
The dude talking to Andrew is right. We have taken Christianity for granted and assumed people were this good to each other because we have evolved or something. I definitely did up until a couple of years before the scamdemic when I started noticing that leftism is one and the same with satanism. We are headed down a dark path, but if we trust God and follow Jesus we will win in the end! God bless
@@CoolPapaJMagik Things are definitely getting real for the people who didn’t believe that the book of Revelation is literal and not figurative or symbolic.
So interesting...I'm gonna pray more
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They’re only on time for the commies
Bought the book
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The general meaning of the Catholic Church is that it is universal but its specific meaning is that it's for both Jews first and also the gentiles
Exodus 21 really details “human rights”!
Considering that it was ancient Israel 3000 years ago, the commandments were considered to be very humanitarian and progressive for its time.
Bosch, the painter, told evreything about pumpkins, aliens, tails, birds and human.
Corina
Not the Tom Holland I was looking for
I realized I know what a blue meanie is I didn't know I knew what a blue meanie was until he said it
I get the sense that Tom knows a lot about Jesus, but doesn’t know him. Hope he’ll fill that empty feeling I get from him!
His chin would kick Jay Leno's chins ass in a fight.
I think it’s just the angle. Doesn’t matter, still funny
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SBG for life
I think The Old Testament is the true origin of human rights. Christians are heirs, not originators, of all rights.
Well, the Old Testament is a Christian book, so ...
As with everything in Christianity, it was there in rudimentary form in the Torah, but reached its ultimate expression with Jesus and the Apostles.
@Lukas Lombardo We're talking Christianity here, not Islam.
You need to read John 1 to understand Origins. “In the beginning the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God . And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” Understand this and read Genesis 1 and you know that Jesus is God and is part of the Holy Trinity and has been from the beginning.
Keep searching.. eventually you will find the truth.
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Hitler did not describe his movement as fascist. Mussolini did, and he recognized President Franklin Roosevelt as as a fellow fascist. They created the corporate state, and it did not exclude people on the basis of religion or ethnicity (1/3 of Jews in Italy were members of the Fascist Party)
"1/3 of Jews Fascist", not for long, The attitude of the Italian Fascists towards Italian Jews changed drastically in November 1943, after the Fascist authorities declared them to be of "enemy nationality" during the Congress of Verona and began to participate actively in the prosecution and arrest of Jews.
@Lukas Lombardo Something you have a taste for.
@Lukas Lombardo Both sides of my family are from Lithuania, they no longer exist, turned into vapor. You made a statement I don't understand, why the "dog shit" comment?
@Lukas Lombardo "Lie", something endemic to all humans, and even organic life, it's a delusion to think otherwise. If thee "shit eaters" are "bad" liars, are you saying WOPs are "good" or better liars? Do you know what WOP stands for? "With Out Papers".
@Lukas Lombardo I would not know, my great-grand fathers fled Russian conscription in the 1880s. But thank you, that comment was very revealing.
I am sorry, but I think this "Great Civilization" attitude towards history is quite stupid. Christianity wasn't the only thing that shaped human rights, Ancient West Asia, Africa, Judaism, Classical Antiquity (Greco-Roman Civilization), Pagans, Achaemenid Persian Empire, Early Islamic Caliphate, Middle Ages, Age of Discovery, Age of Enlightenment etc. Our modern world isn't built in a vacuum, it was build on past civilizations.
Christianity was created to control the mass and to teach a way of life with the optimism. for the afterlife...
What does Christianity have to do with Human Rights? Other than the rabid desire to crush anyone who doesn't believe what they do?
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I did not hear a single thing related to how Christianity did anything for humanity except for the rights of women. I know this is a limited time format. Let's expound on actually evidence of how our lives are influenced today because of Christianity, okay?
I thought the point was that humanity as we know it today, is Christianity?
There are so many ways. Why are children protected by the state. Why does the state feel the need to take in children who are abandoned or left with no one or abused? In other cultures family takes them in or they go to the streets. Many things that are dealt with in a different way rather than by animalistic tendencies. If we are just animals then why not just do as the animals do? Only the strong and fierce. Only the strong should have the things that we today take for granted. We elect our leaders, we choose them by majority. They do not come into power by force but by decisions made by others. That isn’t a natural occurrence. That is a more “fair” way of gaining power. Why? Why should we believe in fairness or kindness to one another or care who is treated well or who isn’t. Why do we care about the disabled, the elderly. The ancients did not. The weak died, by starvation or outright murder. Those characteristics are not natural for humanity, even the “wild west” was a time of great turmoil with terrible treatment of other human beings. Human life had no value. You or I weren’t looked at as anything more than a dog. These things are ingrained in us and the root is Christianity. That may seem questionable to you but it’s still a fact. Things in this world changed drastically after the existence of Christ and the beginning of the church. Whether we like it or not.
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Yes, Paul says there is no male or female in Christ Jesus, but he also says that women should submit to their husbands as unto the Lord. Clearly the former does not suggest anything akin to modern egalitarianism. Paul also never preached monogamy.
Like the Trinity, Transubstantiation and Episcopal authority, monogamy is part of church teaching that predates the bible and was always a part of it, going by surviving documents from the 1st 3 centuries.
@@Loreman72- Um, the Bible actually polygyny, though. And the Trinity doctrine isn't biblical either.
@@Pedant_Patrol Those 2 examples illustrate that Christian teaching is based on more than just scripture.
@@Loreman72- So if not just Scripture, what else is Christian doctrine to be based on? The opinions of man? Other religions? Mysticism?
@@Pedant_Patrol Sacred Tradition, which goes back to the Apostles. You can see it in the writings of St. Ignatius of Antioch, for example, who was a disciple of the Apostle John; and of John Chrysostom, bishop or patriarch of Byzantium, who was taught by Polycarp, also a student of John.
Why did G-d allow His Son to be crucified when He could have destroyed Lucifer?
Excellent question. Perhaps the reason is tied up in the fact that Satan rebelled against everything God stood for and was considered unclean because he would use evil to justify his agenda. Whereas Christ was considered clean without any sin so therefore that in itself inspires love. That the innocent who had nothing to do with their hurt and their pain and their trauma would willingly lay down his life. Where Satan's ideology is all about promotion of self Christ ideology with promotion and radical love for all.
@@charjustice7166 i appreciate your time to help me understand.
To expose Lucifer for the liar and murderer he was and is. If he had simply destroyed Lucifer, people would have accused God of being scared of what Lucifer had to say.
@@charjustice7166 God wanted children. The angels were not made in the image of God (therefore children). Adam and Eve disobeyed God---only the blood of a perfect person could cleanse their hearts and make them eligible for adoption by God.
@@roseanntrott4417 Thank you ☺️
"Sky daddy"
"Sky daddy" is an immature image. It is used to belittle true, honest faith. Like any other attempt to denigrate something one does not understand, it reveals more about the character of the person using it, than the person it is used against.
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True, but it did amuse me. I hadn't heard that one before.
This Jew loves to try to bring religion into everything
Not Christianity......The Catholic Church.
Just don't tell catholics that the earth rotates around the sun... you should be alright.
Yes inquisitor, this one over here!
Yet Catholics were the best explorers and scientists.
@@alejandrocanela691 Only by the grace of God, not the catholic church.
Are you talking about that Galileo thing? That gets misrepresented all the time. I am anything but an apologist for the Vatican, but they keep getting lied about on this one, and I give the devil his due. Galileo was not killed or excommunicated for saying the Earth revolved around the sun. He was PLACED UNDER HOUSE ARREST FOR INSULTING THE POPE in a treatise on that subject. By modern US standards of freedom of the press, that's bad enough, but it is just authoritarianism, not anti-scientific obscurantism, as charged.
@@digitalnomad9985 how long did it take for the Catholics to admit he was right?