Ken Smith basses have such a sweet tone! Many people may pick Fodera because they’re popular nowadays, but no bass can match the Smith sound. -KS for me!
I agree. Ken Smith are underrated - just because not too many people are playing them, but from my experience nothing can touch a Smith. Thanks for your feedback. Please feel free to subscribe for more to come!
Nice video and great playing! Man that Smith sounds killer, articulate and has great punch and clarity. Fodera sounds nice don’t get me wrong, but that Smith tone is just next level IMHO.
Thanks for your feedback! It’s quite interesting what you all taste/preferences are. I agree, and I have to say myself the Smith tone did it for me on this song. I have to agree the punch and clarity stood out more on the Smith. Please subscribe to my channel. I will be uploading an interactive discussion with a bassist who uses MTD basses later on today!
Interesting, I preferred the Fodera’s slightly more blurred articulation on this video. To me, it seemed to fill in bottom end with warmer, rounder tone
Did you know that the first 32 Smith Basses have been built by Vinny ? :) I used to own a Smith Black Tiger in the early 2000's but switched to Fodera in 2006 ... to me the Smith has a more "Character" that you can hear straight (especially the Slapsound) and I think there's a good reason Gospel & R&B Players have played them for ages.... the Fodera is more on the Fender tone side which suits my style better.
That’s so cool! Thanks for sharing that piece of history! I agree the Smith has a lot character whereas the Fodera stays neutral in a sense - really related to a Fender J bass.
@@jcherrymusicworld Thank you for the advice by the way. I am looking into buying a Sadowsky modern bass and 2500€ is a big spending, especially when I need to upgrade other gear too haha !
@@farouche8670 yes, indeed it is a hefty cost lol but it will be worth the investment. These basses has help me grow and develop my playing. It’s also very inspiring to create music.
I really loved what you had to say about these basses. I'm a Fodera owner and I got mine after 20 to 25 years of really wanting one. Spot on with everything you had to say about these basses, and you're right- there's kind of no going back now. The price is high, but it's an investment in the future of a serious musician. Granted, I've seen a lot done with a lot less, but if the opportunity strikes to have an instrument built for you, you should absolutely do it - at least when you know what you want out of an instrument, and you're fairly developed in your playing style. Huge props for using a great track with a great bass part (on every version of that recording, including the Live in DC thing!), and great playing on your part. That song gave people enough space to actually listen to the instrument and form an opinion.
Thanks for your feedback! I’m glad you caught my drift and I’m hoping it was helpful for others too. It’s a different ball game going into boutique basses - and I agree you have to know what you want out of them or else you can waste huge amounts of cash. My intent here was just to state facts and provide clarity. I was once a guy who was closed minded about these instruments but I then began to understand the importance of having a good sound and what great instruments can do to help with that. It changed my perspective forever.
This video reminds me of that scene from 'The Five Heartbeats' when Big Red presented the group with a fleet of Cadillacs and asked them, 'What color you want?'. Choosing between a Ken Smith and a Fodera is a lot like that. Very nice presentation and playing, thanks for posting.
Grettings from Costa Rica . I had 3 basses and I sold two of them, a Fender American Standard jazz bass 5 strings and a Yamaha TRB 6 strings, to get the enough money , but it wasn’t enough, I had to use my credit card, to buy a Fodera Emperor Standard, because after to used that first time the Fodera in the store, I thought “ I need this bass in my life “ . This kind of “boutique “ basses don’t make us better bass players, but The sound and the feeling are amazing . Is like drive a HYUNDAI vs an AUDI , both cars can take you at the same place , but someone drive a Hyundai and Someone else drive in an AUDI. I love both basses the Fodera and Ken Smith
Wow what a wonderful story Alex! I’m glad you see the value in the boutique instruments. They’re made us players that real want something next level. I agree, they don’t make us better players but it does allow to get the most music out of ourselves. The car analogy is spot on. Please subscribe to my channel if you can. Cheer bro!
Fodera owner here. Both sound great. KS has an unmistakable warm and throaty tone. In the end, we’re splitting hairs. Any comments on feel and playability with the two? Great video.
IMO the Fodera’s that I own have slightly a better feel than the Smith. The Smith has a flat neck profile, whereas the Fodera is more curved. The flat neck takes a while to get comfortable with.
Your feel is soooo sweet! So many youtube bass players have the notes down but dont quite fit in that pocket like they should. Good luck in your career!
They definitely both sound great (kudos to your playing most of all). the Ken Smith especially in the beginning sounds out of this world. however you had the mids dialed in fit perfectly with the song! solid sounds, my friend
Jason I really enjoyed How you gave a Detailed explanation on Basses of the Highest quality its Refreshing to Have a Clear reason to investigate 1 They Both Sounded Amazing Hard to Choose Between a Mercedes and a Ferrari. Amen
Love them both, have them both. I think they both work great for anything! Fodera can get a more "vintage" tone. Ken smith is like a super "stingray" Fodera is like a super "Jazz Bass" great duo for anything!
Yep, I agree the Fodera can emulate that 70s J bass vibe while maintaining its clean sound. The peavey cirrus IMO is the one of the only type basses that got kind of close to Smith lol.
Great bass playing here. I thought for sure I'd like the Fodera better, but I have to say, I really liked the Smith! The sound was focussed and in tune in every register, it's got that accuracy to it that I love. Thanks for the video.
I agree with you I also has the Yamaha trb made in Japan .is a great bass but after I trade it for Jody and a ken smith and was a big difference and the feeling on hand and for the moment I have the fodera emperor and that will be my retire bass because I love it but also mtd bass and sadowsky those are my 4 favorite basses
Hey thanks for this video, because I wrestle still with this subject! I’m leaning towards the Fodera. I always been in love with Fender Jazz (seems everybody plays jazz) but looking for my sound. So I came across the Yamaha Nathan East BBNE2. I think I’m on to something. Be blessed!!!
Yo! I wrestle as well. It’s kind of hard to pick between the two. Funny enough the Fodera basically have the same tone woods (maple and alder) that of a Fender J bass, so sonically it’s basically a modern J bass. J bass basses are the most versatile instruments IMO. Oh and you can’t never go wrong with a Yamaha!! The quality of those are amazing, enjoy!!
Just subbed you bro, you’re an amazing Bass player, and love you videos, I actually live in New Braunfels I’d love to visit the Muslc Store you saw all these Custom Basses, which Music Store is it? Thinking I’m gonna be taking me a dangerous little trip Down there. Haha, thank you 🙏🏼
If you want a one of a kind boutique bass, get Gerry Dorsch graphite, “graphite to graphite” neck through.......he made the alembic with the big lights graphite neck back in the 70’s I believe ....of course was the man at modulus. All those forms are old, though. If you like a piano sound, graphite is the way.
Great song choice, great playing, and great basses. In my opinion, the Smith tone is killer; it just sits so nicely in a mix. I own both a Smith Black Tiger and a Fodera Emperor. The Smith is always my go-to but the Fodera has a wider palette. Both are awesome basses !
I found a Fodera Emporer 5 from Sweetwater music for $4800.00 brand new. I jumped on it because I’ve never seen one brand new at that price before. I am thankful.
The Smith wood blend can't be beat. It gives such a tight compression tone. However that maple tone when eq'd correct is best for old-school funk and Jazz Funk in my experience.
Fodera has become a trend! As simple as that! You can hear some bass videos with your eyes closed, thinking its a jazz bass with different pickups or preamp, and you open your eyes, its a 10.000 dollar Fodera! But you listen to any bass video with your eyes closed, you know 1000% its a Ken Smith! Fodera sounds like other cheaper basses, but NOTHING sounds like a Ken Smith! 100 knobs on a Fodera, still sounds cheap, 4-5 knobs on a Ken Smith, sounds like a Ken smith! And honestly, Fodera are only a hype mostly by " jazz & fusion" players... Tobias has WAY more tonal unique character than Foderas... And anone who disagrees needs to get their ears checked! :)
The hefty price tags with Fodera really come from the overhead cost. They are amazingly built and quality is top notch. I believe Fodera’s are for the person who has a dream bass in their head that wants executed…the electronics are very neutral - almost an acoustic quality. It definitely doesn’t have the tonal characteristics like some other basses that defines the instrument.
both basses are excellent and sound great ....little advantage for the ken smith i think due to the quality of the old piece of wood. thanks for sharing. S.V
But I really like the mids that I hear from the Fodera, Im kind of torn, I think the Smith just nails this piece but I think If I could own one of them I prefer the more defined mids of the Fodera.
I know Ken Smith's are more known for Gospel and R'n'B etc. Which they are great for. But just to let you know, I played a bit of metal with my Smith and it sounds amazing. The low B still cuts through the wall of sound and definitely sounds unique. That's all, a bit of info
That’s pretty interesting using it for that genre! Do you find that you need more low end/grit at times? I take that the Smith leans more towards the clean side.
After playing an Alembic series 1 for 25 years, switched to a Smith bass 2 years ago and never ever regret, bass easy to play, easy to make it sound ,and like a friend told me once: Smith basses are plug&play basses😎😎😎🎧
Totally! Alembic are great basses as well. The ones I’ve experienced were built to perfection. Ken Smith basses have amazing QC - as soon as you receive the shipment it’s ready to go. Quality is what amazes me!
LOL this video is like the best demos of these basses I’ve ever seen, Especially the Fodera. I always want to hear the bass in a musical context. I still can’t pick which I like between the two, but I feel like if you weren’t such a killer player, the Fodera wouldn’t sound as good as the Smith. You made both sound soo good! You’re lucky you don’t have to choose, you got both! Enjoy your videos! Hope you are doing well and safe in the crazy weather in Texas!
Hey man! Thanks for the positive and honest feedback!! I appreciate the compliments as well! I personally lean more towards the Smith, but nonetheless they’re both great instruments. Thank you, I’m staying safe and warm in these crazy times! Take care.
I liked the analogy you used about Ford and Mercedes for which I honestly agree with you but I personally still prefer my 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback or any good old Classic Ford over any Benz but that's just me...😅 Awesome video and Yes both basses sound so amazing, you can totally hear the difference and their quality is Top notch. Definitely a good investment. Awesome playing bro...
Great vid! I had a similar experience, went into a music store will all kinds of exotic bass’s and was at first shocked at how expensive they were. But, after playing a few I could really hear and feel the difference. I picked up a Roscoe and it just spoke to me, was like putting on an old comfortable pair of shoes, the sound the feel everything was amazing. I went in there thinking I’d just look around or maybe buy some strings but dropped a large chunk of change and left with that Roscoe. Liked that one so much I had them build two more for me. I still play some of my other bass’s but my Roscoe’s are my go-to favorites. I can totally relate where you are coming from. I’ve never had a chance to play a Fodera but have play a few Ken Smith’s (I live in the Philly area not far from Ken’s shop), and they are great bass’s they guy really knows what he’s doing!
I'm really surprised at how many chose the KS over the Fodera. I've emersed myself in the different sounds of basses for the last couple of years. The KS sounds wonderful. Smooth, clean, precise. The problem for me is that if you weren't allowed to see which bass was being played, I'm not sure you could pick out the KS out of a crowd over any other well-made high-end bass. The reason I like the Fodera, and MTD is because of their unique scooped sound; just like you can pick out a P Bass (mine is a '96 Mexican made), or a Dingwall, or an Alembic without looking at the bass. That's how a bass should be chosen; because of its unique sound, not just it's quality of sound. Enjoyed the video. Subscribed.
They both sound great, but it's Ken Smith for me! I've played my KS since I started playing bass... I love the KS sound Edit: I have a Ken Smith Burner 5 string
I think they sound similar and I believe the note that we are hearing is from your fingers more than it is about the bass. Both sound amazing. The smith has a bit more sizzle in the highs
Thanks for this video. For me it's the Ken Smith in this comparison. Fodera looks and feels great, but to my ears I never really found it to be very distinctive/unique sounding. It's always amazing to hear and see Smith basses. I traded in my 2001 Smith BSR (among others) to enable me to purchase my boyhood dream, a custom Alembic Series 2. And even though this Alembic truly is the best bass I've ever owned, I miss the Ken Smith more than any other bass I've ever sold. If I ever get the chance, I'll buy one back. Great story about boutique basses, I feel the same way. It is so amazing to not only see and hear, but to actually feel the workmanship as soon as you pick up your instrument and in every note that you play.
Ken Smith, Ken Smith, Ken Smith. The tone is amazing. Fodera is uh... Ok, but Ken Smith is inspirational, on another level and how does he get that B string at 34 inches? I'm gonna start saving my money... it's a must have and 6 strings too. I also am playing a Yamaha TRB 1006J... and it's nice, but Kenny Smith is my future! Nice video.
Yep, 34 inch scale! I’ve never experienced a low “B” as tight as a KS on any bass. I believe it’s everything from the brass nut, bridge and woods he specifically uses…anyways thanks for viewing!
Both are killer basses, i think the difference is mostly for the player in terms of comfort and playabillity (neck shape/weight etc...) and it's a very personnal thing. They sounds a little different but not that much because of the active electronics. I think i would buy only one of them (also because of their prices) in addition of a passive P-Bass and J-bass that sounds the opposite way. But man, they're gorgeous instruments.
Ken Smith for this song and effects. If I had to play different songs in a concert I'd take with me at least three bass guitars for their distinctive sounds and use each one on the songs which suits them best
As a Fodera owner I will say the following. For the style and tone required for the song you used to demonstrate both of them, the Smith was way much in tune with what was required for it. I am with you regarding what you had to say about boutique basses, my first one was a Keith Roscoe and all of my defects in my playing were so much more apparent, it became a great tool to fix them to the best of my technic capabilities and to improve of that aspect as well. Nice video...
Goes to show it really just depends on genre and style. Both are amazing basses and for example I prefer the slap tone on the Fodera than Smith for certain things etc. Thanks for your honest feedback!
With this particular example, the Ken Smith gets the roses but both are distinct, aesthetically pleasing basses. Nothing is overrated about these two leading names. I almost bought a Ken Smith 20 years ago but went down the Wal route, another fabulous bass but a very different beast to Smith and Fodera (even if Fodera has made a couple Wal-dera hybrids).
I went thru the same situation! After I got my KS! I only can play another boutique.. If I play another only fender gives me the sound I look for jazz bass. What are the electronics of fodera?
I agree. Fender is staple for that Jazz bass sound. The Fodera has the Mike Pope Preamp: 3 band eq, passive/active switch, single/dual coil pickup switch and mid range (hi/lo) selector switch. It’s a very versatile preamp even more than the Smith, but the Smith just have a tone that is niche to perfection.
The regular TRB can’t compare to the boutique basses BUT the TRB5P2/TRB6P2 is EVERY bit as good as any bass out there (if you can find one). I would pick a good Ken Smith first, the Yamaha TRB5P2, then the Fodera. I would pick a lot of basses over a Fodera (MTD, Roscoe, Sadowsky, a banjo 😂)…
Great video! If you are a discerning player, the boutique/custom bass world is for you I think. However if you get your sound and create music in other instruments, that's also just as valid! Jaco played a basic Fender Jazz, took the frets out and changed the world of bass and music with it. Ok so here's my opinion on the two basses. Both luthiers build instruments at the highest level of craftsmanship. And with these two companies, there is a sense of linage because Vinney Fodera worked for Ken Smith and built the first Smith basses. They have different ways of building to achieve their sound. The Smith basses are built to where the wood is a neutral platform and the voice is created by the electronics. To me overall it's a more compressed sound, and very even. But the sound is very much what it is. You know it's Smith from a mile away and they don't deviate from that sound. For the R&B/Gospel thing, smoother Jazz, and music like that with very low action and a light touch.....they're killer. The Foderas (especially with the splittable dual coil pickups) are more versatile overall. They are built with the wood tone showing through the electronics which gives you a very wide tonal, and dynamic range. When you dig in and play harder they respond and get louder without reaching that ceiling where the bass starts self compressing. They can get sounds of other basses depending on what you have them build. That's the other thing about Fodera. When you come to them they don't push any philosophies on you. They ask you what YOU want to sound like. Smith builds what they build. In the end it's up to you to decide what is better and works for you. No right or wrong.
Very great outlook and summary on this man! I think you hit the nail on the head. It really boils down to what you’re looking for sonically. From my experience with these instruments they’re amazing and accentuate your playing (once you got the “touch”). I use to play many mass produced basses and they were great but these boutique’s allowed my “voice” to shine - transparent and articulate from low to high. Thanks for your feedback!
@@jcherrymusicworld For sure man! I can talk/nerd out about this kinda stuff all day lol! I know the feeling you describe of your voice coming through. When I got my custom Fodera it demanded me to stuff to my game, and also make changes to my other parts of my setup to adjust to it. I switched amp and string companies, and practiced and played in a completeley different way. That being said I still have and love playing my other basses. I got my Fender p bass with the heavy/stiff feeling LaBella flat wounds for that old school "Jamerson" type sound. I got my Fender fretless jazz and fretted to cover alot of stuff too. So it all depends on the music I'm playing and that dictates what instrument fits best. My Fodera does to go many gigs since I designed it to be super versatile.
@@zechariahfrink3707 Fender will be fender period! I still have my vintage P for when I’m looking for that authentic vintage vibe - nothing will replace that. I agree the Fodera is very versatile and modern and IMO why the Fender will always be here to stay because it has that classic sound no bass can match exactly. It can be very gritty and greasy when need be. The modern basses are more Hi- Fi/ warm but the Fender can be a bit more edgy IMO.
Both nice basses but the tone of that Ken Smith is on tha next level.
Agreed.
I think the Smith tone was more organic despite both sounding incredible!
Ken Smith. That tone is super tight, articulate and solid, the high register sounds very clear yet it still has this sweet warmth to it.
You’re exactly right!
Brother I'm really digging your playing. Keep up the great work!
Beautyyyy Ken Smith. The definition and meaning of 6 string bass. Utter Perfection.
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I love them both.both bass are a dream bass.best of the best
This is SICK !!!!! Thanks. Peavey Cirrus / Alembic player here, Ken Smith admirer !!! Talkbasser.
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Ken Smith basses have such a sweet tone!
Many people may pick Fodera because they’re popular nowadays, but no bass can match the Smith sound.
-KS for me!
I agree. Ken Smith are underrated - just because not too many people are playing them, but from my experience nothing can touch a Smith. Thanks for your feedback. Please feel free to subscribe for more to come!
“Invest in your passion...” Well said! 💯
Nice video and great playing! Man that Smith sounds killer, articulate and has great punch and clarity. Fodera sounds nice don’t get me wrong, but that Smith tone is just next level IMHO.
Thanks for your feedback! It’s quite interesting what you all taste/preferences are. I agree, and I have to say myself the Smith tone did it for me on this song. I have to agree the punch and clarity stood out more on the Smith. Please subscribe to my channel. I will be uploading an interactive discussion with a bassist who uses MTD basses later on today!
Great video content......👍👍👍👍. Where did you purchase your Ken Smith bass?
@@ronaldroquemore665 thanks 🙏 I purchased it from an authorized Dealer (Guitar Rez) here in Austin, Tx
Interesting, I preferred the Fodera’s slightly more blurred articulation on this video. To me, it seemed to fill in bottom end with warmer, rounder tone
I realize Im kind of off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch newly released movies online?
Did you know that the first 32 Smith Basses have been built by Vinny ? :) I used to own a Smith Black Tiger in the early 2000's but switched to Fodera in 2006 ... to me the Smith has a more "Character" that you can hear straight (especially the Slapsound) and I think there's a good reason Gospel & R&B Players have played them for ages.... the Fodera is more on the Fender tone side which suits my style better.
That’s so cool! Thanks for sharing that piece of history! I agree the Smith has a lot character whereas the Fodera stays neutral in a sense - really related to a Fender J bass.
they made more than 32 together, almost 250 , Scott Devine owns number 151 and I own number 116
Coming back from a party and listening to this, I'm grooving like never :D
Thanks for sharing !
Lol!! Groove on!
Thanks 🙏🏿
@@jcherrymusicworld Thank you for the advice by the way.
I am looking into buying a Sadowsky modern bass and 2500€ is a big spending, especially when I need to upgrade other gear too haha !
@@farouche8670 yes, indeed it is a hefty cost lol but it will be worth the investment. These basses has help me grow and develop my playing. It’s also very inspiring to create music.
Got the same Ken Smith 6 string bass bass with bubinga wood. It's the flagship of my collection. Love it!
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Thank you for the side by side comparison. And thank the community for the comments that confirmed what my ears heard that Smith was warmer.
Absolutely! I thank the community as well for chiming in. This is really helpful. Thanks 🙏🏿
I love my Ken Smith! Thank U for the video!
Absolutely!
Thanks for the video, it;s the Ken SMITH FOR ME.
I really loved what you had to say about these basses. I'm a Fodera owner and I got mine after 20 to 25 years of really wanting one. Spot on with everything you had to say about these basses, and you're right- there's kind of no going back now. The price is high, but it's an investment in the future of a serious musician. Granted, I've seen a lot done with a lot less, but if the opportunity strikes to have an instrument built for you, you should absolutely do it - at least when you know what you want out of an instrument, and you're fairly developed in your playing style. Huge props for using a great track with a great bass part (on every version of that recording, including the Live in DC thing!), and great playing on your part. That song gave people enough space to actually listen to the instrument and form an opinion.
Thanks for your feedback! I’m glad you caught my drift and I’m hoping it was helpful for others too. It’s a different ball game going into boutique basses - and I agree you have to know what you want out of them or else you can waste huge amounts of cash. My intent here was just to state facts and provide clarity. I was once a guy who was closed minded about these instruments but I then began to understand the importance of having a good sound and what great instruments can do to help with that. It changed my perspective forever.
Can’t go wrong with either! Proud Fodera owner but totally love the Ken Smith too!
I like the way you talk, what you say, and, I agree with your point of view. ❤️🙏😊
GREAT VIDEO AND PROUD OF YOU AND WHAT YOU DO BROTHER AND YOU SOUND GREAT THANKS.
Great video! I need a boutique bass! I’ve been playing since I was 13 I’m 38 now , I want a smith a fodera and a Carl Thompson also a alembic!!
Excellent work ....Bless Up from Atlanta.
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This video reminds me of that scene from 'The Five Heartbeats' when Big Red presented the group with a fleet of Cadillacs and asked them, 'What color you want?'. Choosing between a Ken Smith and a Fodera is a lot like that. Very nice presentation and playing, thanks for posting.
Grettings from Costa Rica . I had 3 basses and I sold two of them, a Fender American Standard jazz bass 5 strings and a Yamaha TRB 6 strings, to get the enough money , but it wasn’t enough, I had to use my credit card, to buy a Fodera Emperor Standard, because after to used that first time the Fodera in the store, I thought “ I need this bass in my life “ . This kind of “boutique “ basses don’t make us better bass players, but The sound and the feeling are amazing . Is like drive a HYUNDAI vs an AUDI , both cars can take you at the same place , but someone drive a Hyundai and Someone else drive in an AUDI. I love both basses the Fodera and Ken Smith
Wow what a wonderful story Alex! I’m glad you see the value in the boutique instruments. They’re made us players that real want something next level. I agree, they don’t make us better players but it does allow to get the most music out of ourselves. The car analogy is spot on. Please subscribe to my channel if you can. Cheer bro!
Good comparison video. For me, the Ken Smith just has that unique growl and punch that sits better in the mix. Both are awesome basses, though.
Yes sir! The Ken Smith is a super unique bass. Nothing really does what it does, and it does what it do best. Thanks for your feedback!
Couldn't have said it better.
Beautifull!!
Such a beautiful playing man, plus, both basses sound amazing....congrats!
Great video! Wonderful tones!
Fodera owner here.
Both sound great.
KS has an unmistakable warm and throaty tone.
In the end, we’re splitting hairs.
Any comments on feel and playability with the two?
Great video.
IMO the Fodera’s that I own have slightly a better feel than the Smith. The Smith has a flat neck profile, whereas the Fodera is more curved. The flat neck takes a while to get comfortable with.
Best bass video on TH-cam! Very well said and excellent points.
Thanks! That’s a high compliment, appreciate it!
Love the comparison between cars....ford and a Ferrari. Yep love my ken smith
Great to hear them both against each other, to be honest - they are both incredible and at that cost it comes down to personal choice.
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I’m up in Ft worth, I’d love to come down and woodshed some bass with you! Can bring my KS and my Fodera!
Your feel is soooo sweet! So many youtube bass players have the notes down but dont quite fit in that pocket like they should. Good luck in your career!
Thanks for the kind words 🙏🏿
Awesome basses and playing. I think I just became the 1000th subscriber!
Holy shit man we just made history together 🙏🏿 thanks!
@@jcherrymusicworld happy to be a part of it!!
Love them both...but for me it’s the Ken. Great playin man
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They definitely both sound great (kudos to your playing most of all). the Ken Smith especially in the beginning sounds out of this world. however you had the mids dialed in fit perfectly with the song! solid sounds, my friend
Thanks man for your feedback!!
Again the Ken Smith is taking it wow thanks for making this comparison great idea and great playing bro
Absolutely man!
Jason I really enjoyed How you gave a Detailed explanation on Basses of the Highest quality its Refreshing to Have a Clear reason to investigate 1 They Both Sounded Amazing Hard to Choose Between a Mercedes and a Ferrari. Amen
Love them both, have them both. I think they both work great for anything! Fodera can get a more "vintage" tone. Ken smith is like a super "stingray" Fodera is like a super "Jazz Bass" great duo for anything!
Yep, I agree the Fodera can emulate that 70s J bass vibe while maintaining its clean sound. The peavey cirrus IMO is the one of the only type basses that got kind of close to Smith lol.
@@jcherrymusicworld Having played both the Peavey and the Ken Smith, I completely agree. The Peavey's are ridiculously good.
Shame they don’t make the Cirrus anymore.
Great bass playing here. I thought for sure I'd like the Fodera better, but I have to say, I really liked the Smith! The sound was focussed and in tune in every register, it's got that accuracy to it that I love. Thanks for the video.
I agree with you I also has the Yamaha trb made in Japan .is a great bass but after I trade it for Jody and a ken smith and was a big difference and the feeling on hand and for the moment I have the fodera emperor and that will be my retire bass because I love it but also mtd bass and sadowsky those are my 4 favorite basses
Kevin Brubaker has been building some Ken Smith necks also,Kevin Brubaker is also a World Class Luthier and Innovator!
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Nothing like smith sound! I have been playing it for more than 20 years
Woah! Sweet man. It’s hard to go back once you play a Smith!
I would love to have both Ken Smith & Fodera basses. 😁
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Hey thanks for this video, because I wrestle still with this subject! I’m leaning towards the Fodera. I always been in love with Fender Jazz (seems everybody plays jazz) but looking for my sound. So I came across the Yamaha Nathan East BBNE2. I think I’m on to something. Be blessed!!!
Yo! I wrestle as well. It’s kind of hard to pick between the two. Funny enough the Fodera basically have the same tone woods (maple and alder) that of a Fender J bass, so sonically it’s basically a modern J bass. J bass basses are the most versatile instruments IMO. Oh and you can’t never go wrong with a Yamaha!! The quality of those are amazing, enjoy!!
#1 Ken Smith. Just has the edge over the Fodera in this video. Nice video man.
Thanks man!!
Just subbed you bro, you’re an amazing Bass player, and love you videos, I actually live in New Braunfels I’d love to visit the Muslc Store you saw all these Custom Basses, which Music Store is it? Thinking I’m gonna be taking me a dangerous little trip Down there. Haha, thank you 🙏🏼
Both basses sound great. It helps that your playing is so good too.
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I'm going with the Smith and this is just one of those investment I'm just going have to make then I'm finish buying basses after that lol
Bro this was refreshing
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I was focusing less on which sounded better and more on that groove!!! Man, I still wish I could write stuff like that.
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Excelente estoy siguiendo siguen también bendiciones
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If you want a one of a kind boutique bass, get Gerry Dorsch graphite, “graphite to graphite” neck through.......he made the alembic with the big lights graphite neck back in the 70’s I believe ....of course was the man at modulus. All those forms are old, though. If you like a piano sound, graphite is the way.
Smith for sure. The upper-mids when you "dig in" are just wonderful. Definitely has better pickups with a recognizable tone.
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Great song choice, great playing, and great basses. In my opinion, the Smith tone is killer; it just sits so nicely in a mix. I own both a Smith Black Tiger and a Fodera Emperor. The Smith is always my go-to but the Fodera has a wider palette. Both are awesome basses !
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Great playing man. Amazing
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I found a Fodera Emporer 5 from Sweetwater music for $4800.00 brand new. I jumped on it because I’ve never seen one brand new at that price before. I am thankful.
Good buy!! I agree they’re normally well over 5K. Enjoy your bass.
The Smith wood blend can't be beat. It gives such a tight compression tone. However that maple tone when eq'd correct is best for old-school funk and Jazz Funk in my experience.
I agree, one thing I’ve noticed is there’s a uniqueness in a walnut/maple wood combo. The voice is unmatched even when compared to other Smith basses.
Fodera has become a trend! As simple as that! You can hear some bass videos with your eyes closed, thinking its a jazz bass with different pickups or preamp, and you open your eyes, its a 10.000 dollar Fodera! But you listen to any bass video with your eyes closed, you know 1000% its a Ken Smith!
Fodera sounds like other cheaper basses, but NOTHING sounds like a Ken Smith! 100 knobs on a Fodera, still sounds cheap, 4-5 knobs on a Ken Smith, sounds like a Ken smith! And honestly, Fodera are only a hype mostly by " jazz & fusion" players... Tobias has WAY more tonal unique character than Foderas... And anone who disagrees needs to get their ears checked! :)
The hefty price tags with Fodera really come from the overhead cost. They are amazingly built and quality is top notch. I believe Fodera’s are for the person who has a dream bass in their head that wants executed…the electronics are very neutral - almost an acoustic quality. It definitely doesn’t have the tonal characteristics like some other basses that defines the instrument.
both basses are excellent and sound great ....little advantage for the ken smith i think due to the quality of the old piece of wood.
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@@jcherrymusicworld Great job man.
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The Smith just sits perfectly on this piece.
But I really like the mids that I hear from the Fodera, Im kind of torn, I think the Smith just nails this piece but I think If I could own one of them I prefer the more defined mids of the Fodera.
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I know Ken Smith's are more known for Gospel and R'n'B etc. Which they are great for. But just to let you know, I played a bit of metal with my Smith and it sounds amazing. The low B still cuts through the wall of sound and definitely sounds unique. That's all, a bit of info
That’s pretty interesting using it for that genre! Do you find that you need more low end/grit at times? I take that the Smith leans more towards the clean side.
Smith bass for the win!
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GREAT JOB YOUNG MAN.
Thank you!
After playing an Alembic series 1 for 25 years, switched to a Smith bass 2 years ago and never ever regret, bass easy to play, easy to make it sound ,and like a friend told me once: Smith basses are plug&play basses😎😎😎🎧
Totally! Alembic are great basses as well. The ones I’ve experienced were built to perfection. Ken Smith basses have amazing QC - as soon as you receive the shipment it’s ready to go. Quality is what amazes me!
LOL this video is like the best demos of these basses I’ve ever seen, Especially the Fodera. I always want to hear the bass in a musical context. I still can’t pick which I like between the two, but I feel like if you weren’t such a killer player, the Fodera wouldn’t sound as good as the Smith. You made both sound soo good! You’re lucky you don’t have to choose, you got both! Enjoy your videos! Hope you are doing well and safe in the crazy weather in Texas!
Hey man! Thanks for the positive and honest feedback!! I appreciate the compliments as well! I personally lean more towards the Smith, but nonetheless they’re both great instruments. Thank you, I’m staying safe and warm in these crazy times! Take care.
I liked the analogy you used about Ford and Mercedes for which I honestly agree with you but I personally still prefer my 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback or any good old Classic Ford over any Benz but that's just me...😅
Awesome video and Yes both basses sound so amazing, you can totally hear the difference and their quality is Top notch. Definitely a good investment. Awesome playing bro...
Great vid! I had a similar experience, went into a music store will all kinds of exotic bass’s and was at first shocked at how expensive they were. But, after playing a few I could really hear and feel the difference. I picked up a Roscoe and it just spoke to me, was like putting on an old comfortable pair of shoes, the sound the feel everything was amazing. I went in there thinking I’d just look around or maybe buy some strings but dropped a large chunk of change and left with that Roscoe. Liked that one so much I had them build two more for me. I still play some of my other bass’s but my Roscoe’s are my go-to favorites. I can totally relate where you are coming from. I’ve never had a chance to play a Fodera but have play a few Ken Smith’s (I live in the Philly area not far from Ken’s shop), and they are great bass’s they guy really knows what he’s doing!
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Interesting story! Glad you found the bass that works for you!
Both sound great, but I'm leaning slightly towards the Fodara
Great video man
What is the signal chain used for both basses
At the time I was just going through my amp head and audio interface.
Sounds tough nice work
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I'm really surprised at how many chose the KS over the Fodera. I've emersed myself in the different sounds of basses for the last couple of years. The KS sounds wonderful. Smooth, clean, precise. The problem for me is that if you weren't allowed to see which bass was being played, I'm not sure you could pick out the KS out of a crowd over any other well-made high-end bass.
The reason I like the Fodera, and MTD is because of their unique scooped sound; just like you can pick out a P Bass (mine is a '96 Mexican made), or a Dingwall, or an Alembic without looking at the bass.
That's how a bass should be chosen; because of its unique sound, not just it's quality of sound.
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They both sound great, but it's Ken Smith for me! I've played my KS since I started playing bass... I love the KS sound
Edit: I have a Ken Smith Burner 5 string
Really hard to go to any other bass especially when you started on a KS. Thanks for viewing!
The Ken Smith hands down!!
Great pocket!
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great video
Nothing beats that Smith low end growl
I think they sound similar and I believe the note that we are hearing is from your fingers more than it is about the bass. Both sound amazing. The smith has a bit more sizzle in the highs
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They are in a dead heat, with a slight advantage for Smith, la tigre negra it´s my favourite bass of all times....
Thanks for this video. For me it's the Ken Smith in this comparison. Fodera looks and feels great, but to my ears I never really found it to be very distinctive/unique sounding. It's always amazing to hear and see Smith basses. I traded in my 2001 Smith BSR (among others) to enable me to purchase my boyhood dream, a custom Alembic Series 2. And even though this Alembic truly is the best bass I've ever owned, I miss the Ken Smith more than any other bass I've ever sold. If I ever get the chance, I'll buy one back. Great story about boutique basses, I feel the same way. It is so amazing to not only see and hear, but to actually feel the workmanship as soon as you pick up your instrument and in every note that you play.
Wow a Series 2!! Congrats on that!
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Great video. Very well said 👍🏻
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Ken Smith, Ken Smith, Ken Smith. The tone is amazing. Fodera is uh... Ok, but Ken Smith is inspirational, on another level and how does he get that B string at 34 inches? I'm gonna start saving my money... it's a must have and 6 strings too. I also am playing a Yamaha TRB 1006J... and it's nice, but Kenny Smith is my future! Nice video.
Yep, 34 inch scale! I’ve never experienced a low “B” as tight as a KS on any bass. I believe it’s everything from the brass nut, bridge and woods he specifically uses…anyways thanks for viewing!
@@jcherrymusicworld I think brass nut and bridges are a definite factor. quality!
Yeah man!
Both are killer basses, i think the difference is mostly for the player in terms of comfort and playabillity (neck shape/weight etc...) and it's a very personnal thing. They sounds a little different but not that much because of the active electronics. I think i would buy only one of them (also because of their prices) in addition of a passive P-Bass and J-bass that sounds the opposite way. But man, they're gorgeous instruments.
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Nice video man!I love my Ken Smith 💖
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The best bass that I've ever played is a Smith Black Tiger 5. Smith all the way! I have never heard a Fodera that can touch a Smith! No contest!
Haha I agree! Totally different vibe from many basses out. The best IMO
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The Ken Smith sound for me.
Ken Smith for this song and effects. If I had to play different songs in a concert I'd take with me at least three bass guitars for their distinctive sounds and use each one on the songs which suits them best
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As a Fodera owner I will say the following. For the style and tone required for the song you used to demonstrate both of them, the Smith was way much in tune with what was required for it. I am with you regarding what you had to say about boutique basses, my first one was a Keith Roscoe and all of my defects in my playing were so much more apparent, it became a great tool to fix them to the best of my technic capabilities and to improve of that aspect as well. Nice video...
Goes to show it really just depends on genre and style. Both are amazing basses and for example I prefer the slap tone on the Fodera than Smith for certain things etc. Thanks for your honest feedback!
With this particular example, the Ken Smith gets the roses but both are distinct, aesthetically pleasing basses. Nothing is overrated about these two leading names. I almost bought a Ken Smith 20 years ago but went down the Wal route, another fabulous bass but a very different beast to Smith and Fodera (even if Fodera has made a couple Wal-dera hybrids).
Jason they both look great and sound good but I think I would go for the Ken Smith!
Great tone man!
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Ken Smith all-day baby!
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Me gustan los dos, pero me impresiona más el sonido del Ken Smith! Buen vídeo 👌🏻
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Anyone on the fence to buy a boutique bass don't watch this video!! LOL well said bro!
Haha! 😂 sorry everyone. Just don’t get in trouble with your significant other!
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EVEN THOUGH I LOVE THE KEN SMITH,THAT FODERA LOW END IS KILLER MAN
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I went thru the same situation! After I got my KS! I only can play another boutique.. If I play another only fender gives me the sound I look for jazz bass. What are the electronics of fodera?
I agree. Fender is staple for that Jazz bass sound. The Fodera has the Mike Pope Preamp: 3 band eq, passive/active switch, single/dual coil pickup switch and mid range (hi/lo) selector switch. It’s a very versatile preamp even more than the Smith, but the Smith just have a tone that is niche to perfection.
One day i'll put my hands on a smith. No other bass has a sound like that
The regular TRB can’t compare to the boutique basses BUT the TRB5P2/TRB6P2 is EVERY bit as good as any bass out there (if you can find one). I would pick a good Ken Smith first, the Yamaha TRB5P2, then the Fodera. I would pick a lot of basses over a Fodera (MTD, Roscoe, Sadowsky, a banjo 😂)…
TRBs are solid!
Great video! If you are a discerning player, the boutique/custom bass world is for you I think. However if you get your sound and create music in other instruments, that's also just as valid! Jaco played a basic Fender Jazz, took the frets out and changed the world of bass and music with it. Ok so here's my opinion on the two basses. Both luthiers build instruments at the highest level of craftsmanship. And with these two companies, there is a sense of linage because Vinney Fodera worked for Ken Smith and built the first Smith basses. They have different ways of building to achieve their sound. The Smith basses are built to where the wood is a neutral platform and the voice is created by the electronics. To me overall it's a more compressed sound, and very even. But the sound is very much what it is. You know it's Smith from a mile away and they don't deviate from that sound. For the R&B/Gospel thing, smoother Jazz, and music like that with very low action and a light touch.....they're killer. The Foderas (especially with the splittable dual coil pickups) are more versatile overall. They are built with the wood tone showing through the electronics which gives you a very wide tonal, and dynamic range. When you dig in and play harder they respond and get louder without reaching that ceiling where the bass starts self compressing. They can get sounds of other basses depending on what you have them build. That's the other thing about Fodera. When you come to them they don't push any philosophies on you. They ask you what YOU want to sound like. Smith builds what they build. In the end it's up to you to decide what is better and works for you. No right or wrong.
Very great outlook and summary on this man! I think you hit the nail on the head. It really boils down to what you’re looking for sonically. From my experience with these instruments they’re amazing and accentuate your playing (once you got the “touch”). I use to play many mass produced basses and they were great but these boutique’s allowed my “voice” to shine - transparent and articulate from low to high. Thanks for your feedback!
@@jcherrymusicworld For sure man! I can talk/nerd out about this kinda stuff all day lol! I know the feeling you describe of your voice coming through. When I got my custom Fodera it demanded me to stuff to my game, and also make changes to my other parts of my setup to adjust to it. I switched amp and string companies, and practiced and played in a completeley different way. That being said I still have and love playing my other basses. I got my Fender p bass with the heavy/stiff feeling LaBella flat wounds for that old school "Jamerson" type sound. I got my Fender fretless jazz and fretted to cover alot of stuff too. So it all depends on the music I'm playing and that dictates what instrument fits best. My Fodera does to go many gigs since I designed it to be super versatile.
@@zechariahfrink3707 Fender will be fender period! I still have my vintage P for when I’m looking for that authentic vintage vibe - nothing will replace that. I agree the Fodera is very versatile and modern and IMO why the Fender will always be here to stay because it has that classic sound no bass can match exactly. It can be very gritty and greasy when need be. The modern basses are more Hi- Fi/ warm but the Fender can be a bit more edgy IMO.