Garen VS Darius - Demacia Or Noxus? | League of Legends
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- Here's the second episode of the VS series where we compare two big burly beefy boys representing one of the oldest rivalries of all time: Garen VS Darius! Time to find out which juggernaut is officially the better one!
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Shurima.
Noxus
@@wendigopain7600 SHURIMA
The order is given
Your emperor..... is a pigeon
@@aeroscantsee1665 and yours is a crow
Sylas' lore actually allowed us to figure out that petricite doesn't block magic it absorbs it allowing sylas to absorb magic and push it out. If it just inhibited it galio wouldn't exist
for short, it's a battery
@@smontherun1430 more of a sponge
@@cloroxholic or a solar 🔋
Until it’s not *cough* ruined king event *cough* . I hate that viego can just stroll around in demacia without being reduced to a dried corpse
@@TheReZisTLust Bruh, that's a battery but downgraded. Petricite can react to almost all types of magic, solar batteries can only take in certain type of energy and it's heat. The marks don't work that way (as far as we know)
Garen’s Lore: “I hate magic”
**Invokes big magic sword from the sky.
his ult is not canon. in lore he cant use magic , he's just a really strong solider with really big armor.
The ability is called Demacian Justice, and the description says he calls on the Might of Demacia. Also, all his abilties are like that, Percerverence, Desicive Strike, Courage, and Jugment. They're all virtues (or action virtues), of Demacia.
"Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle. How Demacian."
@@stormdragon2529 its kayle sword btw necrit explention
It's kayle's sword
Garen is the best champion to be playing when you start to wonder: "Is this game winnable?" :)
We turn it back!
I personally just love how their kits mirror each other almost perfectly :
Garen passives: Bonus regen and bonus resistances
Darius Passives: A bleed and bonus AD
Garen actives: An AA reset that speeds him up, a spin over time that reduces enemy durability, a shield, a single target execute
Darius actives: An AA reset that slows enemies, an instantaneous spin that increases his own survivablity, armor penetration, a single target execute.
it's a finisher though
It's a finisher though.
It's a finisher though
it's a finisher though
It's a finisher though
Garen 1000 true dmg nuke has a easier requirement than darius 1000 true dmg nuke
True, but I think Darius R has a higher HP threshold for the execute than Garen R. At least, that's what it's seemed like.
But Darius ult can reset
The reset is not to be taken lightly with in a team fight
Darius ult can help him get his passive stacks instantly or something for a team fight right? I am new so I don't know since I don't him play much but doesn't it become a major damage powerup?
@@maddog_majima9553 Basically, yes- it's because it resets that makes it powerful over a long drawn out fight- but Garen has more upfront damage so it depends on who is playing the champion and how it is being played.
Honestly, it might be other way around. Noxus was built around Darius design-wise, and so was to certain extent Demacia. This is why are they so great in representation of their kingdoms, for they are founding stones for their culture.
Modern Noxus, yeah. But originally Noxus was way more evil and while they talked about strength their champions tended to be more of cunning, assassin sorts (Katarina and Talon came out before Darius). Even Darius was originally more of a ambitious soldier rising through the ranks through murdering his higher-ups.
Garen, on the other hand, was perfect representation of Demacia from day 1. Demacia was originally more good, it didn't have the whole hate for mages thing.
@@nebeskisrb7765 I honestly like the fact that Riot made Demacia and Noxus more nuanced, in a sense I think it is because of the different way our society views good and evil in entertainment nowadays compared to the past.
@@DeadDystroyer Nuanced? They turned Demacia into a hatesink, and Noxus fans think their country is perfect. Nevermind all the atrocities, that was under Boram Darkwill, they don't count apparently.
@@DeadDystroyer I don't. Ruination event showed that the corporate greed will take precedent over any lore consistency, so I'd rather have a wacky setting filled with tropes and character archetypes so I don't mind when Rito does something silly for the sake of money because it wasn't a serious setting to begin with.
Darius wants to extend the fight, he revels in it, while Garen wants to end it or take out a high priority target
This sounds like lore too
@@God-KingDarius yeah
As our boi would say : " War. Beautiful unending war"
@@javaniverse9252 "War is coming; beautiful, unending war..."
Something else you neglected to mention when talking about endurance: Darius's ability usage is limited by mana. Garen's isn't.
Garen can theoretically stay in lane indefinitely as long as he can dodge a few skillshots.
@@koibiscuitspog336 even if a few shots hit him (nobody can perfectly dodge), he can just camp under the tower to heal.
Also, garen is considered a full tank in wild rift. One of three in the game.
I build him ad
And it's fun
I can just nuke em
Bro that was hard nerfed like 4-5 patches ago.
Still does a lot of damage even by building full tank lmao
@@hello-gx6oi i build him with full speed items, its so fun seeing your enemies unable to escape and kill you when low
Garden going full tank is one of the best counter for ranged tops on WF in my opinion. He still does a lot of damage going full tank and he survives so much
In wild rift, garen and darius are similar except: darius is annoying in low rank but useless in high rank, whereas garen shreds even in challenger.
Not having potions makes Garen passive way more valueble. Its so funny to trade with rivens, lose the trade but than just wait for some seconds so your passive do the job and Riven has less and less HP
Couldn't agree with you more, I Maines Darius and have soo many games on him, but as I got into better lobbies and as he got nerfed, just switched to garen and having a good time, sure this boring, but winning I guess
Garen will demolish Darius most of the time in wild rift.
Yeah, garen crushes darius in lane. And garen is also too damn tanky and has hardly any bad match up. While almost anyone could bear darius in lane nowadays
yeah let's just forget that Darius literally carried Team Queso
Hi im rank 39 Garen na and I just wanna let you know that you did an amazing job with this video. Darius is my second main, sett is my third, I am mostly a juggernaut player, I think most of what u said is entirely correct I could tell you knew your stuff but theres only one thing I want to correct/cover. Regarding the mobility part, thanks to I am Sunlight (a garen main that recently hit challenger in NA), higher elo garen mains started taking ghost over ignite as this is what sunlight has been doing, and obv it provides better scaling. Because of this, Garen beats darius in terms of speed even harder but about the black cleaver thing, unfortunately black cleaver's movement speed got nerfed when stride got hit aswell, and we don't allways build cleaver (its probs more common in lower elos tbh i wouldnt be surprised), in fact I would say I find myself building cleaver only 1/5 of my games so it's very situational (im sure you know this). Other than that, very educated video thanks had a great time enjoying my food :D
What is your high rank garden, Darius & set builds. Which boot which mythic which 2nd/3rd item? (Any tank items?)
Suggestion for a next vid: rengar vs kha zix the battle of the assasin junglers
Rengar is a little forgotten these times, unlike Kha'Zix
@@indrickboreale7381 I’m a Kha’zix player but it’s still sad to see your rival so down low. Also we don’t get to do any nemesis duels.
@@dasaniwater1618 ranger kinda been fuckled since his rework
Great video, so who's next:
Rengar and Kha'zik
Nasus and Renekton
Zed and Shen (idk if I should put them as rivals in game though since they don't share the same lane)
Can be Zed vs Akali.
Other vs can be, Fiora vs Jax
Lilia vs Hecarim
Rhaast vs Aatrox
@@d.ml.g9902 pantheon vs Aatrox
@@xi9ro903 TRYND VS AATROX
@@jader8799 lore wise its pantheon vs aatrox aatrox is litrally in pathen splash art bg
senna vs lux (not rivals but they're the same champ basically)
Virgin imprison and torture people because they are a mage VS Chad equality and fairness for everyone
Except for that if ur born weak , you straight up dont deserve too live (im a darius 1 trick)
@@wendigopain7600 Noxus doesn't care if ur born weak lol
@@wendigopain7600 Everyone's born weak. Noxians don't care about how you're born, only how you grow.
Don’t forget imperialism
@@nintendope2976 An empire can in some respects be closer to fairness than a kingdom.
I'd say it's one of your best videos, Vars - both in montage quality and narrative department. Keep up the good work!
Wow this series improved so much in just one episode. Keep up the good work.
A racist towards those who wield magic
VS
A axe wielding freedom loving uniting people
you mean a psychopath for the second.
how tf can you be RACIST against magic LMAO
ah yes, noxus, definitely the most freedom loving nation. they definitely don't torture and kill those who do not submit to them, totally.
@@thebudking5354 if magic is real
People that don't have magic will feel a disadvantage
And if you read the lore kn the game
Magic had ruined a lot of peoples lives
@@thebudking5354 Magicist
I think that the format of this video was superior to the other one. Looking forward to the next one in this series!
I really liked this version. Much more fun to watch! Good job!
The one extra factor I've noticed in why Darius is more popular too, is because Darius's all in ability makes snowballing easier. A fed Darius is a lot scarier than a fed Garen, but on the flip side of things; a Darius that falls behind is useless, but a Garen that falls behind is still good at chonkiness and ult prio blow ups.
I like how even their passives are opposites. Garen heals over time while Darius deals damage over time.
As a Garen and Darius main, I absolutely loved this video. I'm really exited for the next champion VS!
I would kill for a god king Mordekaiser skin
I just want to point out that darius ult imo is one of the best designed ults in the game. And yes while it is just a ton of dmg with resets the his kit fits perfectly with it. Your chasing the enemy irelia eventually she gets hit 5 times and then you split her in 2 while your moving at 500 ms hunting for your next victim. Its so good that his ult even has its own lore and some champions don't.
Also not only your enemies but your own minions become terrified as they watch someone being brutally ripped apart.
True.
One of the best parts in his gameplay
What is the lore
Darius is objectively the best designed champion in the game. No, i won't argue why.
@@andrej7840 I agree
I really liked the edit and it's style in this video. Especially the lightning effect on the words. Pretty cool.
I just found your channel since your yordel video came on my recommended page, i really like the music and how you are chill when you talk. I really needed this in a league youtuber, i think you are different compared to most other LOL youtubers, and I love it already. Keep up the good work
This seemed minor & I didn't see anyone talking about this, but THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING YOUR VIDEO CAPTIONS!!! (or subtitles or whatever those are)
I truly love you & thank you for that, please keep adding them in the future, because it helps SOOOO MUCH in trying to understand your interesting materials in each video!!!!
This was a great video! Been trying to explain this to my friends for a while
Hey Vars, loved the video!
I just wanted to mention, you completely neglected to address the differences between the way both champs apply their armor shredding, with Garen's judgement shredding the targets armor directly after enough spins, potentially allowing his team to more effectively deal with a heavily armored frontline and Darius's penetration being purely a boost to his own damage through his apprehend passive, I know that this is indeed a small detail but I think covering all the little, lesser known factors/mechanics is also what makes these kinds of videos fun and interesting and is what always brings me back to your vids ^^
Keep up the great work, I'd personally love to see a comparison between two of my favorite characters, Aatrox and Rhaast!
Great video as always !
Oh nice, full subtitles! Thanks for that
I like these analysis videos that don't really focus on an argument. Your content fits it well
Wow this is actually a very good content! good job!!!
this one was much cleaner than the last. good job.
This video is way better hope you make more!
LOVE this series!!
Great video. Love the series and hoping for a mage comparison soon.
This one was much better. Good job!
Love the long form educational content
Just an appreciation comment for the Fire Emblem music Vars uses in the background of pretty much every video
I really like that you include the lore!
I loved it!!! Keep going
.............comment section is a battle field already😂😂🍻
very good comparison. loving the format of this series. keep them coming. i wonder who will be next duo. Nasus and Renekton? Brand and Zyra? Janna and Nami? or other enchanters?
thanks for such good quality content. wish you well.
i feel like garen's w, if timed properly can ALMOST be considered mobility. i know its just cc mitigation, but yeah
this makes like zero sense
@@scrapzz2696 ur mom makes zero cents
@@scrapzz2696 ur mom makes zero cents
@@scrapzz2696 ur mom makes zero cents
@@phonyk7212 ur mom makes zero cents
Honestly a great comparison here and I think it was pretty fair. The only thing I think worth mentioning in the teamfighting section on Garen is that if he can get 6 spins on a target (which is almost guaranteed because of how his spins scale) he reduces that target's armor by 25% for 6 seconds. It isn't going to sway the topic in his favor, but it's certainly a small amount of utility he brings to the table worth covering. Darius has a similar armor penetration on his E, but that only works for himself.
I agree
Alongside Black Cleaver, he can shred about 45% of the enemy armor, which helps a LOT when you have a heavy AD focused team, or when the enemy has several tanks.
Darius reliably builds cleaver which has comparable armor shred while Garen builds more tank
if its not too much of a pain i would recommend making different trophies for each category just so its easier to see what round they won. But this was way better put together than the last one. cant wait for the next one
PLS do more of this
Hey Vars i really like this series for the next episode can you do Morgana VS Kayle?
Petricite is actually petrified wood with magical channeling properties it is mostly used to stop magic flow but it can be used to channel magic like Galio(making him awake and be "alive") and Sylas(making him able to steal others magic and use as it's own)
Something that was not mentioned is thet Garen doesn´t use mana! considering the lore, that´s cool. Continue doing this kind of videos, I really enjoy them!
This was pretty nice. I felt like this was done better than the last one.
Aurelion Sol vs Zoe would be nice to see. (though I know it's a bit more out there)
Vars really loves the expression former and the latter
9:46 wow that pull hit box lmao
Corny evil empire aesthetic with hidden depth >>>>> lame knights and kings aesthetic with racism in package
Hey man, new subscriber here. Really like your content, really like the pace and the flow of it :) .
As someone who's not good at league as I find a lot of the information out there about it rather confusing and almost gate keeping as the content creates expect you to know every in and out of league before watching the video, I love your content as it is very friendly to people who haven't been playing this game for forever and know every bit of information.
BTW your voice is perfect for TH-cam as its calming, yet you compose yourself as knowledgeable but not pretentious. Good work mate, sincerely , a trash bronze MF :)
I know that they never play against each other but I would love a Kayle vs Morgana video
*Darius is the best.*
He looks cool, his skills are cool and he says cool quotes :D
Also, I'm a Darius main if you haven't guessed yet :p
Garen and Darius are very equal.
They feel almost the same when I play them,only difference is that garen can pull of things a Darius could only dream off in terms of constant bullshit
@@rageixi1422 and what would that be? I don't see garen two-shotting the enemy adc building tank.
@@God-KingDarius neither does darius,because all of his damage comes from his passive,which needs to be procced.
Full tank darius is hilariously slow and gets bursted by adcs,to get up 5 stacks you would need years.
Furthermore your ULT SCALES OF ATTACK DAMAGE,so it does next to no damage if you dont have any bruiser items.
Garen on the other hand builds full tank speed items and literally just shreds armor until he can R.
Darius is simply inferior because of the effort put in,you will int a whole lot more and die than a garen.
They take different levels and kinds of skill,garen is simply logically better than darius due to the lack of high counterplay.
Garen is so boring tho idk how anyone can main him
@@rageixi1422 a good darius will destroy a good garen. and i build only triforce as bruiser item on darius and i 2 shot all adcs with a w r no ulti no 5 stacks. besides, he excels against engage supports, who just feed him the 5 stacks needed to 1v5. give darius ghost and hes a garen with 500 ad at 5 stacks and the hp of a tahm kench and a 45% hp heal on q if u hit multiple targets. garen is just q e w r, no outplay potential. a good darius can and will 1v5
Ornn vs Voli coming?? Great vid btw
"Short Ranged and pretty slow character"
Garen: press Q
That thresh at 2:26 is honestly the best support I have seen
I personally enjoy Garen more since his kit is more reliable (no missable skills no reliance hitting Q or getting stacks) plus the spin feels like a very iconic ability in any video game. On top of that garen has a lot of extra's in his kit like the slow cleanse on Q, the resist stacks on W and the armor shred, isolation dmge on E. His W is also very skill expressive and feels like using a fiora parry correctly to block cc, which is always really satisfying. I guess I like him more because I like tanks in general more but still. Also I like blue more than I do red and peace over war and the whole lore stuff. I just wish he was better in higher elo so I could see more streamers play him.
Here from the subreddit, nice!
Welcome! :D
GLORY TO THE NOXIAN EMPIRE
the people who live there hate it.
@@JPX7NGD Would you rather serve fearful nobles in fancy armors or mighty empire?
@@JPX7NGD not everyone hates it
I think you should redo the Yasuo vs Yone video in the future, when you feel that the way you structure this series is concrete and you're sure how to compare the champions (liking the new way so far, and I'm curious how the wind brothers stack against one another).
Ryze vs brand seems interesting also loving the series
next you can do Miss Fortune vs Gankplank or Twisted fate vs Graves.
I like this pairing series. Please do more.
Kha'zix vs. Rengar, Sona vs. Seraphine, Camille vs. Jarvan 4 (I am pushing here but their ultimate are made closed arena. Or maybe for discussing champs that isolated opponent),, or Zed vs. Akali
Hey can one of the next videos of this kind be Azir vs Xerath?
Now we're asking the real questions.
If you want another lore rivalry of sorts do urgot vs camille
Some other ideas for Champion versus?
Kha'Zix and Rengar?
Nasus and Renekton?
Something that would be useful would be a more explicit analysis as to how their kits influence their playstyles. Garen favours slow, patient and targeted actions. Darius favours all-out attack, pretty much at all times. One style resonates far more with the player base than the other, which is why Darius wins.
Personally, I like playing Garen more than Darius. But I like playing Tanks, and Garen is very close to being a Tank.
I'd prefer the point ranking system because I like to look at numbers.
Something some dude mentioned on a video long time ago (I really don't remeber who) One characteristic Garen has, is that from the beginning, whether you are playing as or against him, you'll know who'll win the trade since the beginning, so you can avoid fighting if you know you'll get the short end of the stick.
On the other side, Darius has more skill expression and also a bit more counterplay only by the way his Q works, you can avoid so much damage and avoid him healing just by trying to stick to him as much as you can. I know that right now and since the Ghost-Nimbus Cloak Darius, with Trinity, his current playstyle is quite degenerate, but his overall kit design is pretty decent and I find it more enjoyable to both fight as or against than Garen's one.
Very interesting. But who is better?
The Winner and loser scoring is definatly better when putting two champions up against each other
Would you ne interested in doimg a a video on Morgana vs Lux maybe?
isnt a finisher an execute and the “execute” vars is talking about called a “True execute”
urgot and pyke have the only true executes in the game. the other ults are basically ( if you have lower hp then the ability's dmg, you die and they get an effect)
@@stormdragon2529 and cho'gath
@@linkfan2015 Chogath R damage can be blocked by shields. It's not a true execute.
@@linkfan2015 chogath ult just deals dmg, and if you die it gives you health, but it dosent execute you
Finisher is better as a "use after combo for best effectiveness" were as an execute will literally kill anyone if the execute condition is met no matter what else is going on
They are just two rivals for the ending story of the lore, anime protagonists
Do Riven vs Fiora next!
Excited for nasus vs renekton
I hope the next is one is Sona vs Seraphine who is the better support !
can you do one on Diana - Leona that might be fun
Galeforce is also sneaky good on Garen, especially if you're going attack speed for the bonus E damage after the 6th tick.
Some ideas for the other eps of this series
1.Kha Zix vs Rengar
2.Lux vs Morgana
3.Naut vs Leo
4.Kat vs Yi
5.Irelia vs Akali
you should make a "who is the best infinite stacker" video
Thats the fught between racism and giga chads rule,there is only 1 answer
NOXUS MIGHT!
No.
You don't need to fear magic when you are strong enough
@Arita Akimichi Do you even know what ''rape'' is ? Noxus didn't rape anybody ,they were slaughtering Ionians ,because Boran Darkwill and Black Rose ordered it.
Also there is differemce between old Noxus and current Noxus. It's like comparing WW2 Italy with Modern Italy - Just complete nonsense.
@@walkelftexasranger isn't modern noxus at war against ionia and destroying their land?
Noxus has done a lot of war crimes
And ohh invade ionia
Kill their own soldiers like in Zhao
Use gas to kill master his whole village
Use children for war like kayn
I have an odd suggestion that doesn't exactly fot into the lore department: Zyra x Brand, the two most famous mage supports.
Xerath is watching u
oh yeah the failed midlaners
Swain Zyra botlane makes gods tremble
Brand probably wins
Brand wins he turns in to ashes
Are you going to choose characters for this series because there characters are similar, or there kits are similar? Like would a video be "Nasus vs Renekton" because they're top lane brothers? Or "Nasus vs Kayle" because there top lane scalers?
Champion comparison ideas :))
syndra vs orianna
katarina vs leblanc
irelia vs akali
lux vs zoe
yasuo vs yone
talon vs zed
leona vs naut
kennen vs teemo
quinn vs vayne
Hi Vars co you do a Fiora vs Riven comparison because these two champs are lot of times being compared to each other by the community since Fiora's rework in 2015. Thank you!!!
the only youtuber to correctly pronounce xin zhao
Garen is for under 18, 5'3" beta males. Darius is for 6'4" Xylophone males who do taxes and the laundry and other adult shit that I can't think of right now on the spot.
you have that backwards.
Darius mains are the chads that let their jungle take their farm
@@DronesOverTheMoon you are clearly wrong. Should really see my No Smite Garen jungle, it works like a charm.
You say that but at least Garen can be useful in a team fight even when behind while Darius is literally free gold lol
@@bevvvy1374 this is way too true
In a different universe these two would be best buddies.
You should do Ryze vs Brand
Now the iron revenant vs the darkin blade
Can you do one for Rek'sai?
i was waiting
Playing darius feels like playing an actual heavy juggernaut. You pull the ennemies toward you and slay them with your big axe. Garen is sooo linear; Just running at someone and spining on him. Having literaly no dash or crowd control feels weird.
I don't quite get what's ironic in Sylas using petricite to cast magic.
It's like saying "Buckets are designed to hold water in them. Ironic how gardeners use them to pour it out." Petricite was made to hold the magic within, not to nullify or suck it in forever as a black hole, Sylas knows how to release it.
It's ironic because Demacian's use it to protect/block against magic but Sylas uses it to "cast" magic.