Definitelly Asus has more power than HP but RTX 2050 itself is very weak, i recomend to get at least 4050 laptop or 4060 in the end of 2023 (the sweet spot for gaming and price is 4060)@@Master_trac
Jarrod can you make this kinda video about Creators' Laptops too, about those XPS, Vivobook, Zenbook, Studiobook, Acer Swift and laptops like that please ?
Just build a gaming PC for much less price. The US will always have the best prices. It's just a fact for electronics there and it's unfortunate. Iam just tired of paying a $300 premium for everything in my country which I could've easily afforded in the US.
Aye. This video is a nice get away from the constant news on Israel vs Palestinian and it genocide 😅 I'm thinking about upgrading my 7 years old laptop with GTX 1050-Ti to the 40 series. On the other hand, I'm happy the 1050-Ti able to run most triple-A games on 1080p... My video is up if anyone is interested.
4060 laptops were a pretty epic deal. I remember the last time I shopped for a laptop it was about the cdrom drive and the external battery brick. lol.
@@reus_xe mostly just the most expensive have the great color screens. Although all of the legion pros have great displays. I dropped down to the RTX 4070 for around 1300$. The next step up was huge I couldn't justify the expense for a minor performance gain.
@@JOutterbridge should i opt for 4080 or will 4070 fill my boot??i gotta use a laptop for 4-5 years easily. I'll do some 4k video editing and play Games in 1440p.
@@reus_xe 4080 for video editing just in case. Games will run great in high definition on a 4070 for the most part. Just beware the strix screen resolution and fan noise. Also battery life:/ But great performance for the price
ROG Ally has done remarkably well in terms of sales. Makes me wonder how much this will change as more handhelds become more common on the market. I expect to see a bunch announced and shown off at CES next year in January
Got a lenovo ideapad gaming 16” in Norway for about $700 on sale RTX 3050ti i5-12500H 165hz 1920x1200 display Very satisfied with it as a travel laptop considering i have a 4070 Desktop at home.
I got a great deal on the ASUS TUF F15 thanks to your website, and decided on it thanks to your review. Upgraded from a 1660Ti to a 4070, thanks a lot for your hard work man.
I find it interesting how informed shoppers of gaming computers (including laptops of course) are as compared to other segments of the market. For example, if you're waiting in line at an Apple store, you'll often hear people saying they will buy the 'new bigger phone' or the 'smaller laptop.' I would say maybe 25 percent of them actually understand differences other than size, which is just crazy considering how much people are spending. My point is, I feel like someone buying a gaming laptop understands all the components, upgradeability, power limits, battery life, refresh rate, color gamut, color accuracy --- and they often shop around for the best deal, particularly considering they are usually a younger market segment. And of course, the real, real smart ones, we all watch JT :)
No joke, it's actually crazy how uncommon it is for people to simply look up review videos of products they're interested in. They don't realize that someone with a TH-cam channel has already bought one, and aggregated more information on it than they could ever hope to learn with their own independent research. Idk how many times someone has asked me for help looking for "the best _ " for their price range, only for me to find a 10 minute long TH-cam video, and just recommend the thing that video said was the best (because it usually is!).
@@ronchum5178 I always check multiple reviews on youtube before I chose an electronic product or gadget. I want to know everything about it, pros, cons and price deals. That enables you to make a better decision for buying gadgets. I always loved Dell products and I wanted to upgrade from my Lattitude 7490. I would have loved to buy the XPS 15 series but they cost a lot in the UK. I then checked out the G-series laptops as they had more budget value but they were very bulky, had massive charges and poor battery life so I ended up choosing the Legion 5 series because of budget value for money, design (The Legion design is sleek and not too flashy), durability, upgradability(even though I may never unscrew my laptop 😂) and battery life. The Legion series are so much better than a lot gaming laptops for similar prices.
bought Lenovo Legion Pro 5i with Intel i7-13700HX 32GB RAM RTX 4060(140W) 16 inch 240Hz display. compared with last year Legion with RTX 3080 (140W) the 4060 gave little more FPS and the Battery last long than last year legion and 2023 model is one of the best for video editing and 3D modeling, as of i am satisfied with the latest machine.
quick qn would you suggest going for a 2021 model in 2024? I'm looking at a Legion 5 Pro with ryzen 7 5800H and a 3070. But I feel like it's old for today's standards.
I was looking at laptops for college and spent months looking through videos for comparisons and trying to find out which one would be best. I was about to pull the trigger on a maxed out Legion 7 3080ti but then decided to look at more videos on it. Thanks to Jarrod, I picked up the maxed out AMD version instead, as I'm getting 7-8 hours of battery life and around 100 fps at 1440p for most games at high settings. I don't need 4k or super high frame rates, just a battery long enough for school days and enough gpu juice to make games look good and play decently well, not just now but till after school too. Just want to say thanks Jarrod for your comparisons and informational videos, they have been a great help, and thanks to your partner too, what would we do without the graphs :)
Don’t let this guy fool you. The most popular brand in the EU and US is HP. Lenovo is a Chinese brand that has to answer to the Chinese government. In the west we have to stay United and support western brands. Apple and HP >
TUF A16 owner here, lovely laptop. I love the keyboard and the screen. I have the higher spec model with the 7700S instead of the 7600S It's honestly a great laptop and I strongly recommend it.
Hey Jarrod Just wanted to express my gratitude! I recently snagged the Lenovo Legion 5i Pro, rocking the specs (4060 and i7-13700H) after tuning into your Lenovo reviews. Budget didn't quite stretch for the 4070 or 4080, but I'm thrilled with my pick, all thanks to your guidance! Been a follower of your channel for a good while. Your consistent reviews on mobile devices are spot-on and incredibly helpful. Your channel stands out with its active and knowledgeable vibe. Thanks once more for you & your team for your fantastic content! Keep it coming! Cheers!
@@ro_c_ky_106 It's pretty great in all aspects. 1 month isn't enough time for a full review but best all around laptop purchased in the last 10 years. Quiet, powerful, great keyboard, great display. Battery life is poor while gaming when not in eco mode (Fn+Q to change) Slightly heavy but made very well. Feels durable. 2k and 4k gaming with 50% gpu usage so far. CPU throttles down to 1.8ghz and is still smooth. Rarely goes over 2.9ghz.
The US usually has cheaper prices on laptops when comparing to other countries specially developing countries. So on average the us market does not go for lower end models like the 2050s 3050s or 4050s. But there is a huge demand for them in other countries as everything is more expensive so higher end models are very difficult to obtain. Which is why there is a huge variation in what the comments are asking and what the statistics imply.
Gaming laptops have gotten so good over the years. Not only can I get a 17.3 inch screen on a laptop that can fit in my backpack, but the screen is high frame rate and ips, with a graphics card that's capable of pushing those frame rates.
Yes, these videos are very insightful. Seeing this beautiful human being gently handling these laptops and showering them with heavenly words of affirmation pleases my soul.
I think it would be very difficult because there isnt a good way to measure how good a laptop is "for its time" and then measure how better that laptop did back then than compared to how a modern laptop does today 😂
I think Acer Nitro 5 would be up there, I see one of those in my uni library regularly (with different people) Also the Asus Tuf Laptops. Then the Rog Strix (non scar) and Older Legions. (The rest of them use normal thin and lights)
Your review was what convinced me to buy my Blade 18 a few months ago, with the 4080. Let me just say, it's easily the most powerful and luxurious piece of tech I've ever owned... even if it cost me an arm and a leg, I'd say it was well worth it. Absolutely nothing I've thrown at this laptop causes any kind of issues. Thank you for reviewing it.
@@DouEditzAre you just now figuring out laptops and powerful computer components get hot? Maybe don't be a dick and let the guy enjoy his laptop geez...
@@hybridtron6241 this bubbly ignorance contributes to everything you hate about the industry! Labeling logic as “haters” when I don’t even know the person. Go figure. Why are you paying exorbitant prices for products that continue to price gouge? Absolutely INSANE. You are not getting your money’s worth..
The main reddit for gaming laptops and the discussions people have there are quite consistent with the data shown here. I feel like word of mouth (or rather online opinions) seem to be a huge factor leading to these figures.
I'm curious about what number of units those graphs are about, but this proves like in other areas of life, people ask for budget all the time, but when the time comes, they will buy visibly more expensive or high end.
Just bought a Legion Slim 5 14" on sale for black week and I'm really excited to get it! (An RTX 4060, 1tb of ssd, 32GB of ram and Ryzen 7840HS) Partially because of your stellar review on it. Thanks! :)
I have bought brand new Lenovo Legion 5(2021) 11400H + rtx 3050ti for learning Data Science and playing some games in free time, so it’s the best choice i have ever made
I bought my gaming laptop back in 2021, and back then I bought the Legion 5 from the 2020 model, due to several reasons, but mainly regarding budget. Living in third world country where most of the general users still consider it fine using a 200-300 USD laptops with the most bare specs, the Legion 5 with Ryzen 5 5600H and GTX 1650 Ti at equivalent of ~1000 USD seems like a luxury, even for me, even when the primary reasoning is for working with engineering simulation software I use in my college. However I could provide some of the reasonings behind my choice, and the benefit I only realize later on. First, I bought the laptop just as the Nvidia craze of the 30 series, and they were priced at ~1500 USD minimum in my country, without significant bump in performance, would just better of with perhaps 1200-1300 USD prized ryzen 7 lineup of legion rather than 1500 USD for a measly 3050. Next, is the layout of the laptop gut. The reason I prefer Legion in the end is they're one of the few in the same price range to provide space for internal HDD, while most only provide space for m.2 NVME storage expansion, again budget options. While acer nitro and Asus Tuf provide nearly the same for my needs, at nearly same price point, in the end I choose Legion, and after two year using it, finnally end up with my most hotrod solution: fitting 3 internal storage solution inside the laptop (which officially only allows for 2). Other than the initial 512Gb of M.2 NVME given, I ended up providing another decased SATA ssd, and topped of with another M.2 in the other slot, giving me 3 SSD slot for the internal. And lastly, why I choose lenovo, well, let's just say that, their customer service is the best I've ever feel. My laptop only had two year warranty, and it ended back at June. However, the GPU had problems in March earlier this year which ultimately ended up with the laptop unable to even go into BIOS. I called the service center for Lenovo, and only need to tell about my laptop model and the product number, confirming that my laptop is still under warranty, and start to do the troubleshooting on the phone. After the technicians finnally deemed that it's the motherboard that is the problem, I was told to wait for several days as they ordered a new motherboard to replace the faulty ones in my laptop, completely free of charge, and even have the option to send their own technicians into my own home to replace it directly. Sadly since the technicians needs another week after the part arrive to have an empty time to go to my place, I ended up just going into the service center, and voila it just took 1-2 hour for them to replace it, and I was never happier than that
3050ti is a juggernaut of a laptop GPU and will play any game at 1080p even The Last of Us Remake which recommend 8gigs VRAM but the 5600H & RTX 3050ti played it at 45-60 FPS like a champ without DLSS and high settings. With DLSS even better.
Thanks bro, and glad to know that some can be shipped here in the Philippines. I can also easily browse some gaming laptops and their prizes by checking the site, tnx a lot... keep up the good work :).
Should I buy a legion 5 with 1440p display but 7735hs or a loq 15 with 1080p display but 7840hs. The rest of the specs are mostly the same. Same price.
Lol because everyone in America is rich? Because everyone in 3rd world countries is poor? Stupid Americans . There are new carss coming out next year - America market gets PLAYED. But Americans think they are getting good deals 😂. They are so full of themselves they are offended by budget and think its a war torn country asking for it.
No. There are a lot of RICH ASF People here who crash the economy every decade or so with overspending and greed as well as buying out politicians to do bad things that lead to bad results
It makes sense that the majority are buying last year's models in order to save some money, perhaps even buying them during sale events. In March 2022, I bought my Razer Blade Pro 17 (2020 model) for AU$1729 (~US$1100 at the current exchange rate), which was a ~60% discount. It's an incredible laptop with a ridiculous 300Hz screen! Build quality is excellent and the laptop is thin and light for a 17in laptop. Love it. 😄
Thanks to your videos, I went with the Asus M16. It's a great laptop for students, and it has one of the lightest power-to-performance ratios in its class.
Wow, this blows my mind! Indeed I bought 2022 model of Lenovo Legion 5 in 2023. Really I consider the 2023 model a downgrade due to less USB ports and marginal performance upgrade. I do get the weak speaker but it ain't my concern as I have my own desktop speaker more powerful than any laptop speakers.
I've been eyeballing that for a while. Have you pushed it at all for thermals/fan noise? I dont care about these things physically but I do care about damaging something I've spent thousands on. People act like they can't touch the keyboard because it's so hot playing cyberpunk and cant hear themselves think over the fans.
@@YangBalanceYin I am far from having an exhaustive reply to give you on these specific topics. As for now, I can tell you that I always switched the machine in Asus' Turbo mode while testing Cyberpunk in OD mode (all maxed out) and RDR2 (again all maxed out). "Turbo mode" meaning the 3 fans rise up to 6800 RPM, and they are extremely noisy. At least compared to my old Razer 18 Advanced (2 fans, for a maximum of 4900 rpm). This being said, the machine stays fresh as it should. Also, I do gaming with over-hear headphones, so I am not disturbed by the fan noise (cannot say the same about my girlfriend tho). Therefore: I can confirm you the noise but NOT the extreme keyboard heat.
It's interesting to see US market go for the M16. It looks great, but other reviews I saw said the thermals were abysmal under gaming, bordering on unplayable with the laptop keyboard
@@miscwork-qb7pd This happened to me many times with my "old" Razer. It ment that a cleanup of the fans from dust was needed. I also found myself removing the old thermal paste from the CPU to put more performing one and avoid thermal throttling. Again, it's too soon to tell if I'll experience similar issues with the Zephyrus or not, but I do have the impression its cooling system works much better (which ain't even vapor chamber, but has an additional third fan) compared to Razer's one
@@miscwork-qb7pd However, I must specify this might not be the case in the newest Razer 16, which have considerably thicker unibodies compared to five years ago models
@jarrod’stech just want to say I have been loving your videos and you / your team have been instrumental in helping me find the right laptop for me to replace my 8 year old machine. Massive thank you! Keep up the great work
Hey Jarrod, so far in 2023, what's the best laptop you've reviewed? I'm looking for a laptop, and I just want the best possible laptop released this year.
I just got a 2022 Asus G14 with 6800hs/RX 6800s. With the right tweaks it's a joy to use, and I don't regret. I wanted an RTX 4060 Asus Zephyrus G16, but could only find FHD options with a measly 350 nits brightness. Next option was the 2023 G14 with a 4050 or 4060 but I couldn't find the white version, only grey. And it cost almost 50% more than the 2022 model which wasn't worth it to me.
I opted for a different option. I got the Corsair laptop. It has some windows issues, but its performance is off the charts for the sale price I bought it at.
Hi Jarrod, Really need your view here!! I have Legion 5 slim currently, but am planning to exchange with predator neo 16. same specs: 16GB, 4060, i7. but predator neo is coming with 1TB ssd and is a bit cheaper at the moment. Should I go for it? thanks a lot! Awesome videos btw
My Lenovo Legion Pro 7i is crushing anything I need it to. It's kind of on the heavier side I suppose, but I'm very happy with it either way. It's a 4080 model with 32GB of ram. Edit: I bought this laptop for mobile video editing with some gaming on the side. I'd have bought a lighter 4060 model for just gaming.
Just recently bought a gigabyte aorus 17. Its priced cheaper compared to asus and lenovo for similar spec hardware, so i was surprised that gigabytes units sold was that much lower.
I've been watching your reviews for quite a while now, and try not to buy a laptop until i've seen one of your reviews. I'd really love a review of the msi katana 15/17, if it's not too inconvenient. I'm getting it at a great deal, and am torn between that and the nitro 5. Cheers!
That is a very good deal. Don't get me wrong I wish that the 4070 laptop had 12 gigs of VRAM like the desktop version does but since all of the mobile chips are one down from their desktop counterparts it only has eight but still for $1,000 you can't complain That's a great value.
Hello everyone, if you can please give me your opinion which one is better to buy between these 2 laptops: ASUS TUF Gaming A17 (2023) Gaming Laptop, 17.3" FHD 144Hz Display, GeForce RTX 4070, AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS, 16GB DDR5, 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11, FA707XI-NS94 vs Lenovo Legion Pro 5i (2023) Intel Core i7-13700HX - NVIDIA RTX 4070 - 16GB DDR5-4800 RAM - 16" 2560 x 1600 165hz display - 512GB SSD price now Asus 1399$ Lenovo 1315$ thank you so much for your opinion
This is the video I waited all year for, let's go!!! Love me some bar and pie graphs!! I already knew the two manufacturers for the biggest piece of that pie. Ok now I can't wait for some pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving . 😂
Hi Jarrod, loving the reviews. I'm surprised Alienware m18 didn't feature on the best Alienware/Dell laptop sales this year. I've been doing a lot of research this year given I need a new laptop and the m18 is often in and around the top 3 gaming laptops of 2023 on most review channel/sites. Is there any particular reason why it isn't a top seller and why you haven't featured it in a review on your channel? As a fellow Aussie, its been very challenging trying to figure out the best way to purchase it given it's only available online (it appears JB HiFi will not sell it).
Might just be because we haven't covered it, so we don't link to it anywhere. Dell/Alienware don't seem interested in sending it, I gave up after asking to borrow it 5 times.
Hi Jarrod. I have an Asus TUF i5 11400 with 32GB RAM, and 3060 GPU. Is it worth upgrading to a 13th gen 4070/4080 laptop? Using it for basic documents but more on gaming.
Hi Jarrod, I need your advice on a laptop with a budget of around $2600~$3000. My usage includes occasional gaming, heavy Photoshop design work, and intensive multitasking while browsing. My current laptop is the Asus VivoBook Pro 16X OLED with an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti and 32 GB RAM. I'm looking for something a bit better, with a good display, an i9 processor, and 32 GB RAM. Any recommendations?
I went from a laptop back to a PC. Had an MSI Stealth which was a nice thin metal machine for 5 years, but thin laptop made too much fan noise. Why i went PC and I don't take my work to the coffee shop. I still have laptops now, just lower ends. I might get a lesser graphics card laptop and use an external GPU to my monitor. If I am on a go Iwill just take the laptop. I usually prefer a metal thin body (I know the fan noise) than a nice screen. The brand I like is the HP Omen Transcend. a company I trust, metal body, and a higher screen display. Lenovo and Asus have the most options and are priced very nicely.
This list is based on our affiliate sales and we don't get many Dell/Alienware laptops for review. We have them listed on the Deals site occasionally, and they do get a lot of clicks but they are always more expensive than the competition, so I assume people are buying other brands instead.
I just purchased a 2023 model as it just went on sale from $2800 CAD to $1600 CAD. The lenovo slim 7i. I'm currently using a Acer Predator Triton 300 (2018) model. It's still a pretty good laptop but i figured after 5 year it's time for something new. My acer has upgraded ram and 4 TB WD SSd nvme. I won't have to upgrade my Lenovo, just take those 2 things out of the acer and throw it in and be done with it. That's the one thing i like about laptops that you can still swap some parts into newer ones. Was looking at a Helios 300 but the screens are not that great and been watching all year. Acer rarely has discounts on their laptops and couldn't find them on sale all year for much.
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Can you do one for Australia since this is where you are based haha
do you recommend a hp victus over asus f15 2050 rtx with same specs ?? which one of them has more power ?
Definitelly Asus has more power than HP but RTX 2050 itself is very weak, i recomend to get at least 4050 laptop or 4060 in the end of 2023 (the sweet spot for gaming and price is 4060)@@Master_trac
Jarrod can you make this kinda video about Creators' Laptops too, about those XPS, Vivobook, Zenbook, Studiobook, Acer Swift and laptops like that please ?
Sadly no can do. It doesn't work for Canadians. Poor Australians and Canadians
How come 4090 laptops only cost 2500ish dollars in the US but if you try to buy them in EU they are 5000 euros?
Just build a gaming PC for much less price. The US will always have the best prices. It's just a fact for electronics there and it's unfortunate. Iam just tired of paying a $300 premium for everything in my country which I could've easily afforded in the US.
Murica that's why!
You gotta love taxes
Scam taxes and extra profit
The EU adds 25% tax to electronics last I checked.
Such is life.
Jarrod's reviews are really a level above everyone else, please keep it up
multiple levels
Hey thanks
@@JarrodsTechreview ROG Flow X16 2023
Aye.
This video is a nice get away from the constant news on Israel vs Palestinian and it genocide 😅
I'm thinking about upgrading my 7 years old laptop with GTX 1050-Ti to the 40 series. On the other hand, I'm happy the 1050-Ti able to run most triple-A games on 1080p... My video is up if anyone is interested.
Loving my Lenovo Slim Pro 9i. If only I could have got it in tidal teal color.
This was an amazing video. Thanks for putting it together!
4060 laptops were a pretty epic deal. I remember the last time I shopped for a laptop it was about the cdrom drive and the external battery brick. lol.
I bought one for £990 then upgraded the ram to 32gb ddr5 and wd black 2tb ssd.
Now this machine is just too good!
There are some good deals atm
Agreed it's a brilliant GPU if you take Dlss into account as it elevates to around 3070ti, and 8gb cram is fine if you're up-resing from 1080p.
Would you suggest going for a 2021 Legion 5 Pro with a ryzen 7 5800H and an RTX 3070? I fear it's outdated for 2024 standards. @@JarrodsTech
I went for the Legion 7i pro 4080, and I'm extremely happy. It's an absolute beast! Thanks for you and your partners continued hard work.
is it 100% DciP3 or 100% sRgb.
That's the only reason I'm thinking to go for Asus strix scar
@@reus_xe mostly just the most expensive have the great color screens. Although all of the legion pros have great displays. I dropped down to the RTX 4070 for around 1300$. The next step up was huge I couldn't justify the expense for a minor performance gain.
@@JOutterbridge should i opt for 4080 or will 4070 fill my boot??i gotta use a laptop for 4-5 years easily. I'll do some 4k video editing and play Games in 1440p.
@@reus_xe 4080 for video editing just in case. Games will run great in high definition on a 4070 for the most part. Just beware the strix screen resolution and fan noise. Also battery life:/ But great performance for the price
ROG Ally has done remarkably well in terms of sales. Makes me wonder how much this will change as more handhelds become more common on the market. I expect to see a bunch announced and shown off at CES next year in January
We just got the Legion Go!
Got a lenovo ideapad gaming 16” in Norway for about $700 on sale
RTX 3050ti
i5-12500H
165hz 1920x1200 display
Very satisfied with it as a travel laptop considering i have a 4070 Desktop at home.
I'm a fellow 3050Ti laptop owner, just a shams Nvidia gimped it with 4GB VRAM, then trolled owners by refreshing it with 6GB this year
i have the same config but with 12700H, it's my main rig.
You should have worn a mask while paying because that was a STEAL! 😳
I got a great deal on the ASUS TUF F15 thanks to your website, and decided on it thanks to your review. Upgraded from a 1660Ti to a 4070, thanks a lot for your hard work man.
is it the i7 12700? if yes are you happy with it?
yo man can you let us know if the TUF F15 is worth it? I want to buy it soon
@@potatoguy0593 It is awesome, highly recommend it. I got it for like $950 on sale at Best Buy, so wait for a good sale and snag it!
@@diakokhalandi1115 That's the one! Yes, I'm super happy with it. I use it for BIM modeling with Revit and 1440 gaming without any issues.
I find it interesting how informed shoppers of gaming computers (including laptops of course) are as compared to other segments of the market. For example, if you're waiting in line at an Apple store, you'll often hear people saying they will buy the 'new bigger phone' or the 'smaller laptop.' I would say maybe 25 percent of them actually understand differences other than size, which is just crazy considering how much people are spending. My point is, I feel like someone buying a gaming laptop understands all the components, upgradeability, power limits, battery life, refresh rate, color gamut, color accuracy --- and they often shop around for the best deal, particularly considering they are usually a younger market segment. And of course, the real, real smart ones, we all watch JT :)
No joke, it's actually crazy how uncommon it is for people to simply look up review videos of products they're interested in. They don't realize that someone with a TH-cam channel has already bought one, and aggregated more information on it than they could ever hope to learn with their own independent research. Idk how many times someone has asked me for help looking for "the best _ " for their price range, only for me to find a 10 minute long TH-cam video, and just recommend the thing that video said was the best (because it usually is!).
@@ronchum5178 I always check multiple reviews on youtube before I chose an electronic product or gadget. I want to know everything about it, pros, cons and price deals. That enables you to make a better decision for buying gadgets. I always loved Dell products and I wanted to upgrade from my Lattitude 7490. I would have loved to buy the XPS 15 series but they cost a lot in the UK. I then checked out the G-series laptops as they had more budget value but they were very bulky, had massive charges and poor battery life so I ended up choosing the Legion 5 series because of budget value for money, design (The Legion design is sleek and not too flashy), durability, upgradability(even though I may never unscrew my laptop 😂) and battery life. The Legion series are so much better than a lot gaming laptops for similar prices.
This is so true 👏🏻
us gamers generally know a lot more tech than the average apple customer.
bought Lenovo Legion Pro 5i with
Intel i7-13700HX
32GB RAM
RTX 4060(140W)
16 inch 240Hz display.
compared with last year Legion with RTX 3080 (140W) the 4060 gave little more FPS and the Battery last long than last year legion and 2023 model is one of the best for video editing and 3D modeling, as of i am satisfied with the latest machine.
Got the same specs too, a great laptop
I don't think I've seen another channel do this! Great information
My 3060 5800h legion still serves me damn well, I actually got it thanks to this channel so thanks my man
quick qn
would you suggest going for a 2021 model in 2024?
I'm looking at a Legion 5 Pro with ryzen 7 5800H and a 3070. But I feel like it's old for today's standards.
I was looking at laptops for college and spent months looking through videos for comparisons and trying to find out which one would be best. I was about to pull the trigger on a maxed out Legion 7 3080ti but then decided to look at more videos on it. Thanks to Jarrod, I picked up the maxed out AMD version instead, as I'm getting 7-8 hours of battery life and around 100 fps at 1440p for most games at high settings. I don't need 4k or super high frame rates, just a battery long enough for school days and enough gpu juice to make games look good and play decently well, not just now but till after school too. Just want to say thanks Jarrod for your comparisons and informational videos, they have been a great help, and thanks to your partner too, what would we do without the graphs :)
if i may ask, which laptop did u buy?
@@noname-we4ri The maxed out Lenovo AMD version
Don’t let this guy fool you. The most popular brand in the EU and US is HP. Lenovo is a Chinese brand that has to answer to the Chinese government. In the west we have to stay United and support western brands. Apple and HP >
@@buzzbuzzard3809 lmao these companies will scam u and build most of their tech in china as well
F China and F USA@@buzzbuzzard3809
TUF A16 owner here, lovely laptop.
I love the keyboard and the screen.
I have the higher spec model with the 7700S instead of the 7600S
It's honestly a great laptop and I strongly recommend it.
How much was your configuration please?
I bought it with 7600s for 800usd
Where did you bought it? The only seller it's available from (at least where I live) is HIDevolution, including their Newegg store.
@@ExXxC4L1BUR nice, it’s an amazing laptop tho I wish it had an SD card reader on the right side along with the other USB port.
@@cisco5338 I got it with 32GB and 2TB let me check the cost
Hey Jarrod
Just wanted to express my gratitude! I recently snagged the Lenovo Legion 5i Pro, rocking the specs (4060 and i7-13700H) after tuning into your Lenovo reviews. Budget didn't quite stretch for the 4070 or 4080, but I'm thrilled with my pick, all thanks to your guidance!
Been a follower of your channel for a good while. Your consistent reviews on mobile devices are spot-on and incredibly helpful. Your channel stands out with its active and knowledgeable vibe.
Thanks once more for you & your team for your fantastic content! Keep it coming!
Cheers!
hey how's the 5i pro?
Can you share the initial review?
Jarods awesome. He (or his friends or employees) have replied to my comments a couple times. Hopefully he sees your comment 👍
I just got my hands on it a couple of days ago, but so far it's been really impressive!
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@@ro_c_ky_106 It's pretty great in all aspects. 1 month isn't enough time for a full review but best all around laptop purchased in the last 10 years. Quiet, powerful, great keyboard, great display. Battery life is poor while gaming when not in eco mode (Fn+Q to change) Slightly heavy but made very well. Feels durable. 2k and 4k gaming with 50% gpu usage so far. CPU throttles down to 1.8ghz and is still smooth. Rarely goes over 2.9ghz.
increadbly detaild. good job on the hard work to both of you! you guys are a great team!
Love factual sale reviews. This is a real laptop "CONSUMER GUIDE".
Thanks Jarrod.
I purchased the Strix G15 Advantage w/6800M off of your recommendation. Very satisfied with my purchase. Thank you very much
would you suggest tuf f15 or Strix G15? I want to buy one but am confused
@@potatoguy0593 I don’t have any experience with the F15, so I can’t say. I can tell you that the G15 is excellent.
Your skill to describe charts and graphs are so good tbh.
The US usually has cheaper prices on laptops when comparing to other countries specially developing countries. So on average the us market does not go for lower end models like the 2050s 3050s or 4050s. But there is a huge demand for them in other countries as everything is more expensive so higher end models are very difficult to obtain. Which is why there is a huge variation in what the comments are asking and what the statistics imply.
As an european 3050 (2021 5600H) laptop buyer, I agree.
Gaming laptops have gotten so good over the years. Not only can I get a 17.3 inch screen on a laptop that can fit in my backpack, but the screen is high frame rate and ips, with a graphics card that's capable of pushing those frame rates.
These are helpful datas for laptop buyers! Thanks Jarrod!
Yes, these videos are very insightful. Seeing this beautiful human being gently handling these laptops and showering them with heavenly words of affirmation pleases my soul.
Would be cool to see a "Top 5" budget laptops of all time. Though, the newer ones typically preform better in some way
I think it would be very difficult because there isnt a good way to measure how good a laptop is "for its time" and then measure how better that laptop did back then than compared to how a modern laptop does today 😂
I think Acer Nitro 5 would be up there, I see one of those in my uni library regularly (with different people)
Also the Asus Tuf Laptops.
Then the Rog Strix (non scar) and Older Legions.
(The rest of them use normal thin and lights)
I did top 3 for this year last week, not sure if going back further is very relevant unless it’s just for fun
OH WOW HE REPLIED- *cough*
Yeah gotcha 🤔. Was just an idea
For budget it’s so much about what’s on sale right now.
Your review was what convinced me to buy my Blade 18 a few months ago, with the 4080. Let me just say, it's easily the most powerful and luxurious piece of tech I've ever owned... even if it cost me an arm and a leg, I'd say it was well worth it. Absolutely nothing I've thrown at this laptop causes any kind of issues. Thank you for reviewing it.
And when it breaks due to heat stress cycles you will still be missing an arm and a leg
Ignore the haters, congrats on the purchase!
@@DouEditzAre you just now figuring out laptops and powerful computer components get hot? Maybe don't be a dick and let the guy enjoy his laptop geez...
Asus strix scar 18 is objectivly better
@@hybridtron6241 this bubbly ignorance contributes to everything you hate about the industry! Labeling logic as “haters” when I don’t even know the person. Go figure. Why are you paying exorbitant prices for products that continue to price gouge? Absolutely INSANE. You are not getting your money’s worth..
The main reddit for gaming laptops and the discussions people have there are quite consistent with the data shown here. I feel like word of mouth (or rather online opinions) seem to be a huge factor leading to these figures.
Yeah I always go to reddit for opinions before purchasing
I like seeing you cover budget laptops. Just because most people don't...
Ya'know, i knew you were meticulous but this, this is a step above the rest.
Keep it up Jarrod. It'd be nice to see this again next year
Love these kind of videos! Great great information
I'm curious about what number of units those graphs are about, but this proves like in other areas of life, people ask for budget all the time, but when the time comes, they will buy visibly more expensive or high end.
Just bought a Legion Slim 5 14" on sale for black week and I'm really excited to get it! (An RTX 4060, 1tb of ssd, 32GB of ram and Ryzen 7840HS) Partially because of your stellar review on it. Thanks! :)
This research is so useful thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Love the data analysis. This is very cool, now I want more folks to buy through your site.
I bought a Asus zephyrus g14 2022 and absolutely love it. Its soo portable and great at gaming too
Buying a Legion Slim 7i Gen 8 today!
Amazing vid and great data
I have bought brand new Lenovo Legion 5(2021) 11400H + rtx 3050ti for learning Data Science and playing some games in free time, so it’s the best choice i have ever made
Thk Jarrod, I bought a Asus TUF A15 2023 last mounth with your videos, they are insanely helpful to make the best choise
Guilty, just bought 2021 models this year. In our region, 2022 models are still expensive, even 2nd hand. This video is really good. Metrics!!!
I bought a Legion Pro 7i this year and it's an amazing gaming beast best laptop of 2023 quality/price 👌🏻
Love the channel, thanks for video!
We want a tier list for 2023!
It’s coming just like every year
Can't go wrong with Asus or Lenovo
I bought my gaming laptop back in 2021, and back then I bought the Legion 5 from the 2020 model, due to several reasons, but mainly regarding budget. Living in third world country where most of the general users still consider it fine using a 200-300 USD laptops with the most bare specs, the Legion 5 with Ryzen 5 5600H and GTX 1650 Ti at equivalent of ~1000 USD seems like a luxury, even for me, even when the primary reasoning is for working with engineering simulation software I use in my college. However I could provide some of the reasonings behind my choice, and the benefit I only realize later on. First, I bought the laptop just as the Nvidia craze of the 30 series, and they were priced at ~1500 USD minimum in my country, without significant bump in performance, would just better of with perhaps 1200-1300 USD prized ryzen 7 lineup of legion rather than 1500 USD for a measly 3050. Next, is the layout of the laptop gut. The reason I prefer Legion in the end is they're one of the few in the same price range to provide space for internal HDD, while most only provide space for m.2 NVME storage expansion, again budget options. While acer nitro and Asus Tuf provide nearly the same for my needs, at nearly same price point, in the end I choose Legion, and after two year using it, finnally end up with my most hotrod solution: fitting 3 internal storage solution inside the laptop (which officially only allows for 2). Other than the initial 512Gb of M.2 NVME given, I ended up providing another decased SATA ssd, and topped of with another M.2 in the other slot, giving me 3 SSD slot for the internal. And lastly, why I choose lenovo, well, let's just say that, their customer service is the best I've ever feel. My laptop only had two year warranty, and it ended back at June. However, the GPU had problems in March earlier this year which ultimately ended up with the laptop unable to even go into BIOS. I called the service center for Lenovo, and only need to tell about my laptop model and the product number, confirming that my laptop is still under warranty, and start to do the troubleshooting on the phone. After the technicians finnally deemed that it's the motherboard that is the problem, I was told to wait for several days as they ordered a new motherboard to replace the faulty ones in my laptop, completely free of charge, and even have the option to send their own technicians into my own home to replace it directly. Sadly since the technicians needs another week after the part arrive to have an empty time to go to my place, I ended up just going into the service center, and voila it just took 1-2 hour for them to replace it, and I was never happier than that
3050ti is a juggernaut of a laptop GPU and will play any game at 1080p even The Last of Us Remake which recommend 8gigs VRAM but the 5600H & RTX 3050ti played it at 45-60 FPS like a champ without DLSS and high settings. With DLSS even better.
Bought a legion 5 pro 2022 model in January 2023 and haven’t looked back, every game works like a charm and it’s more than enough for me!
Thanks bro, and glad to know that some can be shipped here in the Philippines. I can also easily browse some gaming laptops and their prizes by checking the site, tnx a lot... keep up the good work :).
Surprised so many are going with Lenovo. I would use them for very cheap productivity machines ten years ago, but for gaming? Surprised.
Should I buy a legion 5 with 1440p display but 7735hs or a loq 15 with 1080p display but 7840hs.
The rest of the specs are mostly the same. Same price.
Are you doing work w/ a lot of text/ professional graphics work?
At 15.6'', 1080p vs 1440p would be hard to discren for most other purposes.
@@Nersius I do a lot of coding, but my main reason for buying one of these is gaming.
I would bet most people asking for more budget laptops review are not from the US so the result, which is mostly US based, doesn't reflect that.
Lol because everyone in America is rich? Because everyone in 3rd world countries is poor? Stupid Americans . There are new carss coming out next year - America market gets PLAYED. But Americans think they are getting good deals 😂. They are so full of themselves they are offended by budget and think its a war torn country asking for it.
I'm actually surprised that RTX 4050 has less than half the sales of RTX 4080. Are laptops that much affordable in USA?
No. There are a lot of RICH ASF People here who crash the economy every decade or so with overspending and greed as well as buying out politicians to do bad things that lead to bad results
great video at a great timing before this month sales
This is an awesome video, thanks for the inside look!
It makes sense that the majority are buying last year's models in order to save some money, perhaps even buying them during sale events.
In March 2022, I bought my Razer Blade Pro 17 (2020 model) for AU$1729 (~US$1100 at the current exchange rate), which was a ~60% discount.
It's an incredible laptop with a ridiculous 300Hz screen! Build quality is excellent and the laptop is thin and light for a 17in laptop. Love it. 😄
Your videos are top notch. Bet atleast one manufacturer will take notice of all this market research
Wow, what an analysis. Those graphs are just insane. Great work.
Much appreciated!
Watching this while stroking my 7i Pro 4080. Even scuffing the metal lid on the day of arrival hasn't stopped me loving it.
lenovo went hard on the adds was a add before this video one in the top right. every time i open a browser or fb it is a bit predatory.
legion 5 pro 2022 3070,... im realy happy on my daily use,.. thx for this channel
Thanks to your videos, I went with the Asus M16. It's a great laptop for students, and it has one of the lightest power-to-performance ratios in its class.
Got myself Legion 7i Pro RTX 4080 month ago and very happy with it.
hey Jarrod just wondering how good are the black friday deals
Wow, this blows my mind! Indeed I bought 2022 model of Lenovo Legion 5 in 2023. Really I consider the 2023 model a downgrade due to less USB ports and marginal performance upgrade. I do get the weak speaker but it ain't my concern as I have my own desktop speaker more powerful than any laptop speakers.
Just got a Zephyrus M16 2023 (4080) for 3k, crazy value for the money. Amazing machine.
I've been eyeballing that for a while. Have you pushed it at all for thermals/fan noise? I dont care about these things physically but I do care about damaging something I've spent thousands on. People act like they can't touch the keyboard because it's so hot playing cyberpunk and cant hear themselves think over the fans.
@@YangBalanceYin I am far from having an exhaustive reply to give you on these specific topics. As for now, I can tell you that I always switched the machine in Asus' Turbo mode while testing Cyberpunk in OD mode (all maxed out) and RDR2 (again all maxed out). "Turbo mode" meaning the 3 fans rise up to 6800 RPM, and they are extremely noisy. At least compared to my old Razer 18 Advanced (2 fans, for a maximum of 4900 rpm). This being said, the machine stays fresh as it should. Also, I do gaming with over-hear headphones, so I am not disturbed by the fan noise (cannot say the same about my girlfriend tho). Therefore: I can confirm you the noise but NOT the extreme keyboard heat.
It's interesting to see US market go for the M16. It looks great, but other reviews I saw said the thermals were abysmal under gaming, bordering on unplayable with the laptop keyboard
@@miscwork-qb7pd This happened to me many times with my "old" Razer. It ment that a cleanup of the fans from dust was needed. I also found myself removing the old thermal paste from the CPU to put more performing one and avoid thermal throttling. Again, it's too soon to tell if I'll experience similar issues with the Zephyrus or not, but I do have the impression its cooling system works much better (which ain't even vapor chamber, but has an additional third fan) compared to Razer's one
@@miscwork-qb7pd However, I must specify this might not be the case in the newest Razer 16, which have considerably thicker unibodies compared to five years ago models
@jarrod’stech just want to say I have been loving your videos and you / your team have been instrumental in helping me find the right laptop for me to replace my 8 year old machine. Massive thank you! Keep up the great work
Hey Jarrod, so far in 2023, what's the best laptop you've reviewed? I'm looking for a laptop, and I just want the best possible laptop released this year.
He made a video on this a few weeks ago. Best of 2023*
I just got a 2022 Asus G14 with 6800hs/RX 6800s. With the right tweaks it's a joy to use, and I don't regret.
I wanted an RTX 4060 Asus Zephyrus G16, but could only find FHD options with a measly 350 nits brightness. Next option was the 2023 G14 with a 4050 or 4060 but I couldn't find the white version, only grey. And it cost almost 50% more than the 2022 model which wasn't worth it to me.
I opted for a different option. I got the Corsair laptop. It has some windows issues, but its performance is off the charts for the sale price I bought it at.
Can u please do a Black Friday deals video
I'm thinking about it. I haven't done a specific deals video in the past, but am considering it for this year.
@@JarrodsTech yh go for it ur the only guy most of us here trust for good laptop deals.
Hey !! Jarrod, please review Alienware m18 with AMD rx7900m dedicated GPU!
I bought the Acer Predator Helios 300 2022 because of you man. A very good deal. Your website help me so much
do you think the helios 300 is worth it? I'm kinda stuck between helios neo 16 and helios 300 so I'd appreciate your opinion
Going for lenovos 14inch option 4060. Its just perfect. And on sale for a decent price
Hi Jarrod, Really need your view here!!
I have Legion 5 slim currently, but am planning to exchange with predator neo 16. same specs: 16GB, 4060, i7. but predator neo is coming with 1TB ssd and is a bit cheaper at the moment. Should I go for it? thanks a lot! Awesome videos btw
Not worth the hassle.
Impressive data dance. Impressive new video Jarrod. You're a master of data!
Glad you liked it!
I bought Lenovo Legion Slim 5 after watching your review. Thanks man.
How does the 3070 compare to the 3070 ti? You don't seem to mention the 3070 in the comparisons and i just wanted to ask. Thanks!
Interested too
My father bought me an IdeaPad Gaming 3 with an i5 processor and RTX-2050. This is my first laptop and i am really happy ❤
My Lenovo Legion Pro 7i is crushing anything I need it to. It's kind of on the heavier side I suppose, but I'm very happy with it either way. It's a 4080 model with 32GB of ram.
Edit: I bought this laptop for mobile video editing with some gaming on the side. I'd have bought a lighter 4060 model for just gaming.
Mid display
@@rajyavardhansingh4491lenovo has best display among gaming laptops. What are you talking about
9:30 Is Triton good like Helios 300? I see the price difference is not too big, but the sales are very large.
Just recently bought a gigabyte aorus 17. Its priced cheaper compared to asus and lenovo for similar spec hardware, so i was surprised that gigabytes units sold was that much lower.
I've been watching your reviews for quite a while now, and try not to buy a laptop until i've seen one of your reviews. I'd really love a review of the msi katana 15/17, if it's not too inconvenient. I'm getting it at a great deal, and am torn between that and the nitro 5. Cheers!
I couldn't pass on my alienware. 13700h and 4070. Excellent condition open box for $1000.
Wow. Where did you get it from?
@@ant4686 Best Buy.
@@ant4686 New Egg has many open box options
That is a very good deal. Don't get me wrong I wish that the 4070 laptop had 12 gigs of VRAM like the desktop version does but since all of the mobile chips are one down from their desktop counterparts it only has eight but still for $1,000 you can't complain That's a great value.
Hello everyone, if you can please give me your opinion which one is better to buy between these 2 laptops:
ASUS TUF Gaming A17 (2023) Gaming Laptop, 17.3" FHD 144Hz Display,
GeForce RTX 4070, AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS, 16GB DDR5,
1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11, FA707XI-NS94
vs
Lenovo Legion Pro 5i (2023) Intel Core i7-13700HX - NVIDIA RTX 4070 - 16GB DDR5-4800 RAM -
16" 2560 x 1600 165hz display - 512GB SSD
price now
Asus 1399$
Lenovo 1315$
thank you so much for your opinion
Love my Legion Pro 7i with 4090.
This is the video I waited all year for, let's go!!! Love me some bar and pie graphs!! I already knew the two manufacturers for the biggest piece of that pie. Ok now I can't wait for some pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving . 😂
Strix g18 4080 didnt even make the list. Love this beast. no coil wine or screen bleed.
Kudos for the sick T-Shirt & the awesome content!
Thanks!
Hi Jarrod, loving the reviews. I'm surprised Alienware m18 didn't feature on the best Alienware/Dell laptop sales this year. I've been doing a lot of research this year given I need a new laptop and the m18 is often in and around the top 3 gaming laptops of 2023 on most review channel/sites. Is there any particular reason why it isn't a top seller and why you haven't featured it in a review on your channel? As a fellow Aussie, its been very challenging trying to figure out the best way to purchase it given it's only available online (it appears JB HiFi will not sell it).
Might just be because we haven't covered it, so we don't link to it anywhere. Dell/Alienware don't seem interested in sending it, I gave up after asking to borrow it 5 times.
Hi Jarrod. I have an Asus TUF i5 11400 with 32GB RAM, and 3060 GPU. Is it worth upgrading to a 13th gen 4070/4080 laptop? Using it for basic documents but more on gaming.
3060 is pretty good right now, wait for 14/15 gen for a bigger noticeable difference
Bought lenovo legion pro 5i works like a charm
Very comprehensive stat breakdown.
Hi Jarrod, I need your advice on a laptop with a budget of around $2600~$3000. My usage includes occasional gaming, heavy Photoshop design work, and intensive multitasking while browsing.
My current laptop is the Asus VivoBook Pro 16X OLED with an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti and 32 GB RAM. I'm looking for something a bit better, with a good display, an i9 processor, and 32 GB RAM. Any recommendations?
Great idea for a video
I went from a laptop back to a PC. Had an MSI Stealth which was a nice thin metal machine for 5 years, but thin laptop made too much fan noise. Why i went PC and I don't take my work to the coffee shop. I still have laptops now, just lower ends. I might get a lesser graphics card laptop and use an external GPU to my monitor. If I am on a go Iwill just take the laptop. I usually prefer a metal thin body (I know the fan noise) than a nice screen. The brand I like is the HP Omen Transcend. a company I trust, metal body, and a higher screen display. Lenovo and Asus have the most options and are priced very nicely.
Lenovo legion AMD versions are the best.-
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Great statistic work
jarrod dude your videos RULE. wish id found them before i saved up for 2 years for a 3050 laptop :( (4gb variant)
Jarrod we need your take on new M3 chips. Some serious single core top charts.
I’d totally get a 4080 if I lived in the US but here in Norway/EU they cost like 3000$ lmao. 4090s can get upwards of 4500-5000$.
How does Dell and Alienware not sell more gaming laptops? I thought they had better name recognition.
Same, I thought they’re more popular than that.
This list is based on our affiliate sales and we don't get many Dell/Alienware laptops for review. We have them listed on the Deals site occasionally, and they do get a lot of clicks but they are always more expensive than the competition, so I assume people are buying other brands instead.
I just purchased a 2023 model as it just went on sale from $2800 CAD to $1600 CAD. The lenovo slim 7i. I'm currently using a Acer Predator Triton 300 (2018) model. It's still a pretty good laptop but i figured after 5 year it's time for something new. My acer has upgraded ram and 4 TB WD SSd nvme. I won't have to upgrade my Lenovo, just take those 2 things out of the acer and throw it in and be done with it. That's the one thing i like about laptops that you can still swap some parts into newer ones. Was looking at a Helios 300 but the screens are not that great and been watching all year. Acer rarely has discounts on their laptops and couldn't find them on sale all year for much.