actually what I think he means is directly translated from chinese, “用心去做题” which actually means you're very focused, concentrated, and you put a lot of effort into studying and doing problems. He does not mean he does problems with his heart literally, it's just that's what it sounds like in chinese
I love these kinds of docs. As someone who is mathematically challenged, the way their brains work fascinates me. Thank you to all the mathematicians out there!
Can empathise my friend one of the reasons I am watching the video is to In a way assume myself being one of the imo participants. It's a fantasy but as long as you can acknowledge it being one I belive it can help you accept yourself and all your shortcomings. Or perhaps I am just trying to justify myself.
6:35 "how does this crap work?" As someone who studies Maths, I hypothesise all students have said this at some point during their education (I probably do it every day or every other day lol).
I wish that similar program could be run in my country. I remember that my math teacher in high school told us about math competition with finals in Paris. You had to solve few problems and send solution by mail in some preselection zero round. I've tried it by myself and it was early-Internet era. I've spend many hours in libraries and tried to find as many books as I can to get some knowledge (and I had problems with geometry). I haven't solved all problems but I send those which I had ... and never get any answer. It was fun anyway and I've learned a lot, but I think young people need some guidance.
I have a bachelors in math and there's a lot of math I love, but I don't love it near as much as these young people. At some point I like to put it down and watch Rifftrax or wrestling or something. I'll NEVER have the talent or drive to get a PHD in math, but if there was a PHD in bad movie watching I might be able to get that.
@Abie Egharevba it's statistically true that the representatives of the US for math olympiads are mostly asian or of asian decent, though are american thru citizenship
Why does this picture the guys as though they were born with different brains? Come on guys! They are great, but lets focus on their effort, that is what counts the most
Somehow these boys avoided the trappings of adolescent immaturity amidst the decadent youth culture that permeates American High Schools. Their accomplishment on the world stage was real and their finish was quite impressive. Seemingly happy-go-lucky Zeb earned a gold medal! A product of good parenting? Kudos, Zeb’s Mom.
@@xdotnx982 Do you care to explain what you are addressing and how you reached the conclusion that I am a martinet? Otherwise your utterance comes across as psychotic spam signifying nothing. and I will assume that was your intent.
after taking the USAMO and failing to make it to the national team i understand how genius these guys are like holly f*cking shit they're smart i have no chance competing with them atleast i'm glad i qualified for USAMO
It's not you, the problems are getting harder since they can't use old ones and secondly, the number of participants grow evey year. In 2021 there were 640 students who took the test
In Thailand, the national level is Thailand MO… there are 5 problems in 4.5 hours but the difficulty is much easier than that of IMO. For example, the hardest problem on the test P5 is usually just on the easier end of IMO P1 difficulty. I’m glad I’m not from USA because the difficulty of USAMO is like IMO lol. I guess that’s why USA always do well on the IMO…
these kids are going to invent somethings our lazy kids in the future are gonna sit and complain about their creation lol like we're complaining about old scientists inventions 😂
So I'm watching this, thinking, what would be the ultimate all around competition. When you see these guys playing the piano or chess or basketball, it got me thinking. This is a snippet of human evolution. What would the ultimate competition entail? Math, sports, strategic games, fine arts, music? What else? What would encompass the full gamut of the human potential? What would the life experience be of people who would excel at all those things?
In india, it's such a shitty system that even if someone gets to know about IMO in 10th grade, it's considered late. I had a friend who was good at math, most intelligent in her class, and with the toppers. We never fking knew wth IMO was until we got in 10th grade. She has an extraordinary passion for math and is ready to do any kind of hardwork to reach and become one of the indian team members. When she called a private institution who got it's students to win at IMO, they told her "you are too late now, please, students start since they are in 8th grade, we won't accept you." She told me that she had to hold her tears back, and that she won't rely upon these people. I believe in her. I know she will reach there someday. Will give you an update ;)
@@student-.. yeah its just limited in pune. there are litrally hubs for these olympiad coachings. we know nothing and no one tells us anything. my friend is preparing for it she'll start giving exams of the prior stages from this year. i wish you good luck if your trying too!!❤🙏
@@ei6442 wait... who did you contact? I'd suggest contact Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana...And... most of the imo guys are literally self trained...it isnt too late... look at rohan goyal... he started in 10th.... now he is a IMO bronze.... you just gotta have the zest...
@@Arch009 we contacted them, they're the ones who let her down. She literally cried after that phone call, i love her soo much and would never want to see her cry. I encouraged her but she was too disappointed. Why would she listen to me if an adult told her she can't make it? I absolutely hate them for this. Thankyou for showing your support though, since it's her passion she solves problems anyways. I don't know how much she knows compared to what is needed, but i won't let her give up ❤️
If anyone knows, could you please help me out with the name of the song at 1:13:45 (the same song continues at 1:14:30 in the background). It's really beautiful and gives me chills!
why are they playing ominous music and and dehumanising the chineese kids?! those are kids too , young individuals who are VERY SMART and also happen to be Chinese
The size of the population has little to do with how well the best perform. For example consider that the United States has won the world championships this year in track and field yet the population United States is outnumbered heavily by the population of China
It has to do with how popular this competition is in each country. Like sports- it can be a tiny country, but they can still be amongs the bests if it's a popular sport in their country.
@@jasonshaye3567 Disagree. Yes, the hard work and high standards play a part. But simply better people will be in a country with more people. For track and field I believe that @A s. 's argument works
actually what I think he means is directly translated from chinese, “用心去做题” which actually means you're very focused, concentrated, and you put a lot of effort into studying and doing problems. He does not mean he does problems with his heart literally, it's just that's what it sounds like in chinese
Roshan Singh yeah of course I know that but some people watching this video and another clip actually thought he did and memed him for it so it's good to clear it up for non Chinese speakers
Top smart ones always live in isolation which is the best possible way to enjoy their lives!! And the brave minds of them don't need understanding from others!!
They are so lucky to be able to work for what they want. They can be brilliant people but you can make an avarage people a genius with those advantages.
"You can't do math with your emotions". Arnav has clearly never seen my yell at a problem set in dismay.
hahahahahah!!!
50:52 That one dude is praying before the test.
Ikr
Where is Arnav ?. Time stamp ?
THAT'S SUCH A WHOLE LOAD OF CRAP!!!
Alex Zhai scored 42 points on IMO 2008. Bravo!!
Unbelievable
What's the highest score ever
@@william_SMMA 42, which is a perfect score
damn thats insane @@iaexo
What's he doing now?
в россии Галия Шарафетдинова в 2022 году тоже набрала 42/42
"if you didn't do well, you can even call me and cry with me. I have lots of tissues." Teacher Zuming Feng's humor is underrated.
''i study mathematics using my heart '' zhiyu liu
actually what I think he means is directly translated from chinese, “用心去做题” which actually means you're very focused, concentrated, and you put a lot of effort into studying and doing problems. He does not mean he does problems with his heart literally, it's just that's what it sounds like in chinese
@@x0cx102👁️
👄👁️
i study maths using Pb pencil
I study mathematics using my nose
He's a monk now.
I'm a Khan Academy dropout, struggling amateur pianist, and middling language instructor, Arnav made me jealous bro.
😂
Not a Khan Academy dropout (yet), and not quite a language instructor, but I’m certainly a struggling amateur pianist haha.
@@mmilrl5768you'll get there chopin
respect to khan Academy
Don't give up bro
1:15:21 Zhiyu Liu, "I'm not surprised that I received the highest score, I deserve it!"
I love these kinds of docs. As someone who is mathematically challenged, the way their brains work fascinates me. Thank you to all the mathematicians out there!
I didn't even know that such competitions existed, unfortunately I had no such figures in my life or any exposure to these opportunities.
Likewise now I’m in my teens pushing to reach the potential I’m told I have
@@spooneytoon7407 u got this :)
Arnav is now a professor at Harvard after getting degrees from Harvard and Stanford. Jheeeez!
What subject
Hype Mathematics
What about the others?
lies. he is not a professor...I checked.
mashallah
Its hard for me to accept I'm not a genius. Hell there's a high possibility that I'm even dumb😭😭😭😭
wtf
Can empathise my friend one of the reasons I am watching the video is to In a way assume myself being one of the imo participants. It's a fantasy but as long as you can acknowledge it being one I belive it can help you accept yourself and all your shortcomings. Or perhaps I am just trying to justify myself.
if you can solve for x : 5x = 20, then you are doing better than most men on the planet.
@@Simon-xi8tb that cannot be true lol, I'm sure most people can do the most basic algebra.
@@vighneshkannan7896 lmao, i know lots of people that dont even know the internal angles of a triangle
Proud to say Zach Abel was my professor at MIT
wow that must be amazing!
Me too. After studying math, playing piano is rather relaxing.
6:35 "how does this crap work?"
As someone who studies Maths, I hypothesise all students have said this at some point during their education (I probably do it every day or every other day lol).
Naturally. Lol
Zach Abel totally gives "death note geniuses" vibe with all those intricate "toys" he has made....
I wish that similar program could be run in my country. I remember that my math teacher in high school told us about math competition with finals in Paris. You had to solve few problems and send solution by mail in some preselection zero round. I've tried it by myself and it was early-Internet era. I've spend many hours in libraries and tried to find as many books as I can to get some knowledge (and I had problems with geometry). I haven't solved all problems but I send those which I had ... and never get any answer. It was fun anyway and I've learned a lot, but I think young people need some guidance.
It's hard to miss THE Richard Rusczyk at 14:55, and Professor Po at 33:12
Richard is a super hero according to my 7 year old math obsessed daughter. Because of Aops my daughter is able to find her happy place.
@@edmund6392 Good to hear that!
I love aops bro
Zeb Brady is so smart and cute. I also like arnav and the rest of them. Anyway incredible documentary thank.
You better give him quality head
I study mathematics using my heart. Amazing.
Math is just so satisfying because of its very indirect application to the general world, unlike other subjects
PHYSICS??
@@sumukhshirodker physics has a very direct application
@@abhijeetkumar9483 Exactly
Physics uses math as a tool on solving and proving its principles and is wayyyyy more directly applicable to the world
Also that unlike Physics, we don't just take things for granted in Math
1:41 'What did you have for breakfast?' 'A compass!'
It's crazy that Beautiful Young Minds and Hard Problems documentary were shot in the same year, the same exam where they even met each other.
Yes and there was a movie shot inspired by "Daniel Lightwing" from the UKIMO team 2006, starring Asa Butterfield!
Where can i find it?
@@darkfusca1 th-cam.com/video/N5fmiAsHxxo/w-d-xo.html
It's based on the real life story of Daniel Lightwing, who biopic is the movie called X+Y
It's interesting to google these students' names and see everything they went on to achieve in the last 20 years.
Tell us
I know right. Zhiyu Liu who scored first place here became a Buddhist monk!
@@davidmalka1693 then a psychologist
everyone gangster till someone steals your moose
I have a bachelors in math and there's a lot of math I love, but I don't love it near as much as these young people. At some point I like to put it down and watch Rifftrax or wrestling or something. I'll NEVER have the talent or drive to get a PHD in math, but if there was a PHD in bad movie watching I might be able to get that.
🤣🤣🤣
I think most of us bachelors are in that same boat man. Maybe not bad movies...
2:24 “I hope if they choose me they say, he doesn’t know how to write solutions, but we can teach him that” 💀
i think that was 21:24, the quote your talking about
iconic
"You can't do math emotionally"
Arnav has clearly never had his dad scream at him while trying to teach him maths
39:38 "He just does math all day"
Some of the problems these kids are asked to solve, even maths proffessors can't even solve themselves.
Kudlaliwe ngabantwana apha.
I was routing for Zeb the whole time
USA is lucky to have these talented and passionate youth.
talented passionate asians*
@Abie Egharevba it's statistically true that the representatives of the US for math olympiads are mostly asian or of asian decent, though are american thru citizenship
@Abie Egharevba i'm not discriminating :» I am an immigrant myself, and im quite happy that we're making our heritage proud :»
Aisans not usa
To buy*
If you Google most of the names, the have gone on to do quite well in their lives
Well, they were prodigies.
Like who?
Abhiraj Arora
Prodigies, talent, natrual gifts
All Myths, specially in STEM
Work hard and progress
@@alzahrani3673 there is definitely talent involved, or at least a certain natural interest in the topic.
I wouldn't call it successful careers. You can be Professors without being gifted.
Why does this picture the guys as though they were born with different brains? Come on guys! They are great, but lets focus on their effort, that is what counts the most
ehh its both tho
IQ is 100% genetic.
@@ghostferatu6241 yea and IQ is nothing without an iron work ethic. So you need a really high IQ and the ability to work extremely hard!
@@rcmotorsect ok boomer
@@ghostferatu6241 whatever man I'm 23 just trying to be successful haha
Somehow these boys avoided the trappings of adolescent immaturity amidst the decadent youth culture that permeates American High Schools. Their accomplishment on the world stage was real and their finish was quite impressive. Seemingly happy-go-lucky Zeb earned a gold medal! A product of good parenting? Kudos, Zeb’s Mom.
Self-important martinets like you are the reason humanity has vanished from the Earth. Something is not wrong just because you dislike it.
Holy shit we got fucking mr thesaurus over here
@@xdotnx982 Do you care to explain what you are addressing and how you reached the conclusion that I am a martinet? Otherwise your utterance comes across as psychotic spam signifying nothing. and I will assume that was your intent.
@@robbes7rh My guy you just proved my point again lmfao
@@xdotnx982 I had you confused with another discussion I was on. So what’s this Mr. fucking thesaurus about? And what’s that got to do with anything?
Wish there was a doc on chemistry or physics Olympiad, too
after taking the USAMO and failing to make it to the national team
i understand how genius these guys are like holly f*cking shit they're smart
i have no chance competing with them atleast i'm glad i qualified for USAMO
It's not you, the problems are getting harder since they can't use old ones and secondly, the number of participants grow evey year. In 2021 there were 640 students who took the test
@@vikraal6974 I used art of problem simcing maybe if I had studied more recent tests I could've made it to IMO
@@vikraal6974 This year there were 1000 xd
In Thailand, the national level is Thailand MO… there are 5 problems in 4.5 hours but the difficulty is much easier than that of IMO. For example, the hardest problem on the test P5 is usually just on the easier end of IMO P1 difficulty. I’m glad I’m not from USA because the difficulty of USAMO is like IMO lol. I guess that’s why USA always do well on the IMO…
@@aekkawinwisitkiatchai7640 except this year
And presenting me...
I'm the best at a special form of science called 'useless'.
Zeb and his siblings named after Lord of The Rings is so cool. Elessar, Galadriel.
These kids are straight out of an anime cliche
these kids are going to invent somethings our lazy kids in the future are gonna sit and complain about their creation lol like we're complaining about old scientists inventions 😂
18:25 i never noticed that and im 20 ... wanting to go into math.. i probably should give up haha
woah that's true. Never considered it before either
I found this out in 6th grade and was so happy with that finding... I think it was the first time I truly fell in love with math
Wait so are they saying like (x-y)^2=x+y when y=x+1 or something else cause what I’m thinking doesn’t make any sense
@@kamwow9469 (x+1)² - x² = 2x+1 (expand the square) and 2x+1= x+(x+1)
Ben Weaver ohhhh I thought it was the square of their difference (like wouldn’t that just be 1) not the difference of their squares
Thanks
I'd love to know where these kids are now 15 years later
Work in nasa thought
All are doing fine
Inspiring. Thank you for posting.
Why am I here, I already have watched it fully
also, zeb is my man. what a legend
Really inspired!
I scored 100% in math up college level
Damn. Imagine someone is inspired to do mathematics but they are born perfect memory. He/She is too powerful
Terence Tao
If you think there's some "perfect memory" I'm afraid you don't know how the human brain or specifically the human memory works
It isn’t powerful at all perfect memory does almost nothing it might help with geometry but it barely does.
@@nebula3415 You must be kidding.
@@aiuchiha111 I am not aside from remembering thermos perfect memory helps very little for olympiad and maths in general.
Finally Zhiu Liu(Who got 42/42) refused MIT offer to study and eventually became a Buddhist Monk.Wow😶
You are kidding, right? right?
@@tmy3411 True.Just Google search
A Great man indeed
OMG you can see the founder of AOPS at 15:10
COOL SOLUTION RUSCZYK
just spotted him as well.
Lol Richard
Holy shit, is that my boy LUKE?
23:22 hes playing liszt’s mephisto waltz no. 1 if anyone was wondering
do you know the piece at 11:18 ? I would greatly appreciate it.
@@maukachauka8793 it's Beethoven's Appasionata (Sonata No. 23), 3rd movement :)
@@h.n.879 thanks :)
7:28 Kevin Modzelewski one of the co-founders of Dropbox
Great documentary.
21:11 looks like my cousin. No one respond to me I'm just putting this here so I can show him. :D
Sup
ik
Yo how are you
okok
39:30 I need an audiobook with his voice.
while i am crying over simple algebra1
Math Olympiad In Progress; shows people playing football (American).
One day i’ll be like them.
i promise
I'll be perhaps better I promise
Believe it! **cacophonous flute music**
there is no "one day"
those people are gifted.. you are either like them already or never will be..
@@JustinK0 They're definitely gifted but that doesn't mean that one can't get better with these kinds of problems. Practice makes perfect
If you're above the age of 11 and aren't already, it's too late
7:05 im sorry UNCLE ROGER??????????????????????????
So I'm watching this, thinking, what would be the ultimate all around competition. When you see these guys playing the piano or chess or basketball, it got me thinking. This is a snippet of human evolution. What would the ultimate competition entail? Math, sports, strategic games, fine arts, music? What else? What would encompass the full gamut of the human potential? What would the life experience be of people who would excel at all those things?
you watch anime/
@@jermainemunene7434 your name is jermaine 🤓
That experience would be Asian lol
If you search they're names, they are all wildly successful.
28:51 now that's a winning mentality
Yes 😌
In india, it's such a shitty system that even if someone gets to know about IMO in 10th grade, it's considered late.
I had a friend who was good at math, most intelligent in her class, and with the toppers. We never fking knew wth IMO was until we got in 10th grade. She has an extraordinary passion for math and is ready to do any kind of hardwork to reach and become one of the indian team members.
When she called a private institution who got it's students to win at IMO, they told her "you are too late now, please, students start since they are in 8th grade, we won't accept you." She told me that she had to hold her tears back, and that she won't rely upon these people. I believe in her. I know she will reach there someday. Will give you an update ;)
Edited :No teachers or anyone bothered to tell us anything about it lmao. Also Did your friend make it?
@@student-.. yeah its just limited in pune. there are litrally hubs for these olympiad coachings. we know nothing and no one tells us anything. my friend is preparing for it she'll start giving exams of the prior stages from this year. i wish you good luck if your trying too!!❤🙏
@@student-.. lol that imo is just a private organization.... that IMO is literally a scam...
@@ei6442 wait... who did you contact? I'd suggest contact Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana...And... most of the imo guys are literally self trained...it isnt too late... look at rohan goyal... he started in 10th.... now he is a IMO bronze.... you just gotta have the zest...
@@Arch009 we contacted them, they're the ones who let her down. She literally cried after that phone call, i love her soo much and would never want to see her cry. I encouraged her but she was too disappointed. Why would she listen to me if an adult told her she can't make it? I absolutely hate them for this. Thankyou for showing your support though, since it's her passion she solves problems anyways. I don't know how much she knows compared to what is needed, but i won't let her give up ❤️
Been waiting for this to uploaded. Thank you!!
thank you so much for uploading
Man this makes you feel uncomfortable 😣.
Me too! I'll never be as good as them
Atleast you are good enough to understand these stuff
They all eventually got PhDs in math
OOHHH SHIIITTT IT'S PAUL CHRISTIANO BOYS
If anyone knows, could you please help me out with the name of the song at 1:13:45 (the same song continues at 1:14:30 in the background). It's really beautiful and gives me chills!
maybe try shazam to find it?
why are they playing ominous music and and dehumanising the chineese kids?! those are kids too , young individuals who are VERY SMART and also happen to be Chinese
Bunch of people with extra large head sizes
6:02 thats such a stupid question to ask
The size of the population has little to do with how well the best perform. For example consider that the United States has won the world championships this year in track and field yet the population United States is outnumbered heavily by the population of China
It has to do with how popular this competition is in each country.
Like sports- it can be a tiny country, but they can still be amongs the bests if it's a popular sport in their country.
@@jasonshaye3567 Disagree. Yes, the hard work and high standards play a part. But simply better people will be in a country with more people. For track and field I believe that @A s. 's argument works
Genes matter. The US has way more blacks than China.
How to solve it by G. Polya
The book that changed my life
Was it good? I am actually looking for a new perspective on math.
@@angelivyquidlat6612 I think a lot of people recommends it
reading it right now =) can vouch for your statement
@@angelivyquidlat6612 Mark my words "It will definitely change your perspective towards problem solving".
Ramanujan is my favorite
So is mine
Ohh I hate when they say its obvious 😂
lmao
1:37 Bruce lee reborn
Where are they now in 2020.
Pretty well settled, well atleast most of them
This looks like my worst nightmare
Haha
28:02 we still love you tedrick
I will go to IMO representing Italy, I promise.
did you
No.. next year is the last, I'll try 🤞
math is good for me when i dont have exams
"I study mathematics using my heart" zhiyu liu
actually what I think he means is directly translated from chinese, “用心去做题” which actually means you're very focused, concentrated, and you put a lot of effort into studying and doing problems. He does not mean he does problems with his heart literally, it's just that's what it sounds like in chinese
@@x0cx102 of course he doesn't mean that...
Roshan Singh yeah of course I know that but some people watching this video and another clip actually thought he did and memed him for it so it's good to clear it up for non Chinese speakers
@@x0cx102 Oh I see. Anyways I think it was the best moment of the documentary. Incredibly inspirational.
He loves mathematics.
Top smart ones always live in isolation which is the best possible way to enjoy their lives!! And the brave minds of them don't need understanding from others!!
16:52 yes it does but if only people could keep on going they too will get that click for math
If you cannot twirl your pen/pencil on your thumb, you cannot participate in the Math Olympiad.
population size does not relate as one might expect to the maximum ability of the population 47:44 (~ logarithmic gains).
Why is it logarithmic?
Zhiyu Liu 1:15:25 became a monk.
@1:09 He look like*Ekart tolle*
They are so lucky to be able to work for what they want. They can be brilliant people but you can make an avarage people a genius with those advantages.
no they cant, none of these kids are average
I study math for the future
great video!!!!
The US team pretty much have all imports. This tells you something about the state of our own education system.
none of them learnt this from our school system this is all done separately outside of school as well
They were all born and raised and educated in the US though
4:26 is this the same Paul who runs the Alignment Research Center?
They should have their own city and lives unmixed with normal people,
I study mathematics using my heart damn
40:45 i had known he was Turkish before his name came up :)
significant Turkish accent
Bro, plz put HD video.
International Physics Olympiad
Yi Sun (2004)- Gold medalists
International Mathematical Olympiad
Yi Sun (2006)-Silver medalists
🤓
why do i like this video so much
I can do that every morning.
omg it's hans kim
Look at all those Ghandis