These ships are very specialised, and got to know a guy who was a part of a civil defence unit, who were supposed to be deployed in strategical places. These used fast 40 foot personnel boats. Worked very well together since both could be deployed quickly into shallow water behind islands or into small fjords. Live on an island consisting of 100s of small islands, and it was quite cool watching these vessels 20 years back maneuver in tight and shallow spaces.
I was stationed onboard KV Svalbard, the Norwegian coastguard icebreaker during the international excercise "Cold Response" and one of the Skjold class passed us at high speed in a fjord and let me tell you, those things make waves, rocked us like a bathtub and just as fast it was gone. just amazing boats all in all. Also while in the US, KNM Skjold got a speeding ticket on the Mississippi, they have the ticket framed on the ship
Didn’t know you could get a speeding ticket on the Mississippi. At least In Wisconsin their is no speed limit on lakes or rivers, including the Mississippi nor speed limits on snowmobiles either. That’s funny though
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 This is many times bigger than a van. Besides, going viking is also an attitude and a statement. A statement of not driving a van when you can steer a ship worthy of the valkyries praise ✊️
@@GlacierCodfish No one you know has had the interior of their apartment speed away while inside a missile corvette. Someone you know has with 97% probability had their valuables loaded into a non descript van that sped away. Valkyries loves a practical Viking. Not getting caught or specifically identified is like 99% of a successful crime. No Viking wants to be met on an English beach with: "Did you pillage my wife and rape my cow last year? I thought I recognized the massively conspicuous almost unique ship".
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 ..But viking ships WERE completely different than the ships of saxon villages.. For an anglo saxon you can bet there is nothing "anonymous" about a viking ship.
It also holds the spirit of being the fastest ship of its time, and barely penetrating the edge of the water, like viking ships. Just wish we had many more of these, I want to see atleast a hundred of these! Only 6 vessels to cover the worlds second longest coast is.. low..
The Stealth capabilities of the Skjold Class is undercommunicated in this Video. Norway asked their closest friend, the US for assistance constructing a Stealth capable Wessel, and got a cold «No» in return. Norwegian radar experts started from scratch, and made a exeptional capable Stealth boat. When the US got to hear about the Norwegian sucsess, they asked to research it. Personaly I really think that Norway should have given the Americans the same answer that they gave them - NO!
I worked on a proposal to have squadrons of an upgraded variant of the SKJOLD acquired by USN to meet the LCS requirements. We lost to two classes of poor LCS ships. What a joke.
weird to see a video about something made in my town. I remember always looking at these boats at the location they are made, there is even still one there today.
Update. I was wrong. I am sorry, that I didn't factcheck before jumping to conclusion. The blue and yellow is truely norwegian. The yellow ancher on a blue background is .... (Drumrole) Swedish. Norway's colors are red, blue and white. 🇳🇴 But great boats. We should consider them in Denmark.
Every Baltic nation should consider them. They would be a strong defensive deterrent against Russia although the previously vaunted Russian juggernaut military is looking more like a Paper Bear.
The coat of arms displayed in the video is indeed the correct coat of arms for the Royal Norwegian Navy (in Norwegian: heraldisk våpen med Kongeriket Norges rikskrone, blått et gull anker og korrekt våpenskjoldform for Sjøforsvaret, Norge). You will also see that quite a few other symbols in the Norwegian naval heraldry also have sky blue and gold (e.g. kvadrert blått og gult for Kystvakten, the blue and gold quadrants of the Royal Norwegian Coast Guard), and even some other bright colours (e.g. green), as formal colours of the tinctures of the Armed Forces of Norway are defined and limited to be: red, blue, black, green, and as "bright and clear". The tinctures also includes furs (brown) and metals, and that's where the gold (yellow on print) and silver (white on print) comes in. You are welcome to research and verify (search/ref.: Bestemmelse for Forsvarets visuelle profil, publikasjon Innføring i Militær heraldikk for Norge, Forsvarsstaben, siste versjon 2020).
@@KentAJDK You're welcome. Internet saves the day. “I don’t need to know everything, I just need to know where to find it, when I need it.” - Albert Einstein
It depends of course on how far out the Carrier is staying. The main purpose of the ships are to stop major vessels from getting close to the coast. If they do they are toast. 150 km is not bad
Corvette's should be the warship of the future, fast, dangerous, inexpensive, easy to maintain and smaller radar cross section. Big, cumbersome, expensive and high-maintenance ships like Tico, Arleigh Burke, Pytor Vilikey and Moskva need to be fazed out.
Ships need a minimum size to be viable for long-distance missions, which is a capability expected of most navies. A corvette class is simply to small to bring everything it would need to be self-sufficient in all aspects.
@@tobiasrietveld3819 I do agree with that to an extent, I didn't put enough emphasis on 'future' by 2050 more efficient propulsion systems that don't consume gallons of fuel.
do they have the money for the fuel? There is after all 4 gas turbine (jet engine) producing more than 16000 hp. + diesel engine, powering fans, blowing air in under the hull.
60 knots is the official number, but unofficially, small talk between people... close to 68 knots. And oh, he did say they didn't have torpedo, in the video. But it would be weird to have torpedo on that class, for example Mark 48 have a top speed of 55 knots, Skjold class is a bit faster then that.
@@UltimaSRi thanks for you response. Of course importing this would be very expressive, and not practical to purchase in any significant number, just like the Gripen I was thinking more of the concept of a very fast platform, fast enough to be evasive and dangerous to any invasion force. A similar design and concept I believe could produce something useful domestically. I don't see why this option wouldn't be far cheaper and more practical than other options. It seems like they have some domestic infrastructure, in shipbuilding and are not as helplessly dependent on foreign sources as is the case with fighter aircraft. JMHO and happy New year
And the US navy picked the Freedom and Independence class LCS. And Lockheed martin refuses to fix the drive problems on their Freedom class. Can you imagine buying a car without a warranty?
The funny thing, when US Navy tested the Skjold class (a larger version of it was a contender for the LCS program), it had a combined Diesel and gas turbine propulsion, connected trough a gearbox. This was back in 1999. During testing they discovered that due to the massive rpm difference between a diesel engine and the turbine, the gearbox kept getting destroyed. The Norwegian Navy solution was to just replace the diesel engine with a turbine, some operate at similar rpm as the other turbine. Thus skjold have 4 Turbines geared trough 2 gear boxes, propelling two water-jets. The Turbine config is: - 2 small turbine for low and cruise speed - 2 larger turbine for cruise and high speed - all 4 for max speed 60+ knots (unofficial close 68 knots) The Freedom class drive problem, is the same problem Norway had with skjold class back in 1999. Where Norway solved the problem with go turbine only on the drive.. The problem Freedom class have as Skjold class had in 1999, is trying ot match a 2000-4000rpm diesel engine, with a jet turbine at 20000+ rpm, trough a gearbox. due to the massive rpm difference and power difference, the cogs in the gearbox will have to take all the pressure and heat, guess what will happen.
Not really. It's too under-equipped to fight blue water naval vessels, it's not seaworthy enough to venture far beyond littoral zones for patrols and it's too big and expensive for asymmetric warfare around Phillipines islands. It's a vessel designed for the unique environment of the Baltic Sea but not (cost)effective outside it.
If they are going to build new ones today, diesel electric motors will probably be the same as in submarines the technology has come so far that it is possible and they will perform just as well if not better.
@@Dan-fo9dk Many officers in the Navy warned about it, but it went for def ear. The report from the accident showed that Helge Ingstad could have survived that accident. There was reported that all hatches between compartments was open. If they was closed, she wouldn't have sunk. As @Mats Norway, proclaim a pile of junk. I wouldn't go so far, yes there was some problems, but the ship is as good as it's crew, and the crew is as good as the training the receive. Norway sends their men to the Royal Navy for a sort of "exams", where they Royal navy have on occasion warned about some problems, mainly coming from the Norwegian Navy training. I would never give the crew full responsibility, some of it yes but not all, there is people above them, in offices that should have listened to warnings. The pile of junk... The class was designed from ground up as an ASW ship not an AAW ships (some people dram about), the idea of calling them "multi role" was more politicians wanted to make it look nice, when they was paying the bill, in an project the government damaged. The government gave the Navy an economy limit and requirement limit and basically forced the hand. I know that as far back as in the early 90's the navy was talking with the Germans about frigates, long before the project started. These frigates was build to survive a torpedo exploding under the hull... so long they keep all hatches closed.
yea at least they were proven the LCS will be huge over price patrol ships. yes they can bring a lot more firepower but bigger version of this would of sufficed.
They are quite obviously admirable military tools, fulfilling all military targets. Shame they couldnt do anything about the sound. You can hear the "stealth " boat many kilometers distant - a constant roar which gets louder as they come nearer. Hmm i guess noise was left off the drawing board.
These things should be around a carrier group deploying passive sonobuoys all over the place. Fully equipped for short/med range AA warfare, rushing to where they need to be. A naval iron dome that can move much faster than what they currently have. Supplies and fuel can be transferred quickly and easily from a tanker, off you go to your patrol area. Cheap, small crew, not a juicy/priority target for anyone.
I disagree. Their range is far from good enough to travel along side carriers, not to mention they are not very good in high sea states. They have poor anti air capabilities, and helicopters are far better suited to be dropping buoys. They should stay near the shore and only come out to fire anti ship missiles on data-link targets provided by whatever finds it.
@@wackysparrow1768 ....range...??? One of those, as said in the video, had taken the trip across the Atlantic to USA. So where is the range problem when such a ship can cross the ocean under its own power...??? ....and who told you about poor sea capabilities. If there is a coast in the world that knows what weather is than it is Norway.... So the ships are actually constructed to cope with those conditions....
@@Dan-fo9dk If you think it had an easy time getting to the States you’d be wrong. They also didn’t go the direct route. These ships have to time the weather right just to get to England. The Norwegian coast can see some shit weather for sure, but these boats can drive most of the coast in littoral waters where they won’t see waves bigger than a meter or two and even so they regularly get stuck die to weather. Yes they CAN go into higher sea states at significantly reduced speeds, but that doesn’t mean they should. They also can’t recieve fuel at sea as easily as proper sea going vessels. If you use them like Robert proposed; around a carrier group at high speeds they’d have to refuel several times a day. And that is in the very unlikely event that the weather would allow such driving.
@@Dan-fo9dk Well they had to coordinate with the British navy and the US Navy, to have tankers waiting for her, out in the Atlantic, they had to refill underway.
@@wackysparrow1768 Skjold class was designed to be able to operate at 45 knots in 4 meters waves. (it was one of the minimum requirement). The effect of the Surface effect hull on these ship, make them handle bad weather quite well. It is first when you come over a certain wave height, they are forced to droop speed, mainly due to they can't hold the air between the hull. If I am not remembering wrong from back then: - at sea state 4: 60 knots (1.25-2.5 meters) (it's an surface effect hull, it love waves) - at sea state 5: 45 knots (2.5 to 5 meters) - at sea state 6 at reduced speed: 20+ knots, (mainly due to the problem with holding air, between the hull, in some wave direction (4-6 meters) - at sea state 7: speed bellow 15 knots that would say 10 knots, crew comfort For fueling at sea, it have to been done a lower speed, where they tanker they are fulling from, is the fuel line, I have seen it been done at 10+ knots, some are a bit fun. When Skjold class move from west coast of Norway to the Northern part of Norway, they go out in open water, due to speed restrictions in areas. "Breakfast in Bergen, dinner in Tromsø" (some have been done on some occasion)
With Japan current strategy and the problems Japan have with North Korea (missile testing), and China. What Japan need is ships like Frigates and destroyer. Specially frigates, specialized in submarine warfare. The Mogami class frigate is good, but they are not so good at hunting submarines. Ships like the Skjold class in the video, is only effective, if you have a coast like Norway, where it can use fjords and islands to it's advantage
It is horrible in high seas. Slamming the waves like a rubber dinghy. Fun fact: The beds have seatbelts because of the bad characteristics in waves so you don't fall out when you sleep.
@@heuhen De oppfører seg som en gummibåt i nesten enhver bølgehøyde. Jeg var på en minerydder med samme designet, og heldigvis ble ikke jeg lett sjøsyk, men veldig mange flere enn på en vanlig båt ble sjøsyke hver gang vi gikk over stadt eller hadde litt sjø. Båtene er også et stort vindfang, med veldig lite som stikker nedi vannet slik at de påvirkes veldig av vinden. Og når de da heller ikke har baugpropeller men noen luftutblåsnings porter for å fungere som det så er de ekstremt vanskelig å legge til kai når det blåser mye. Vi røyk en pullert rett av ved to anledninger i mye vind mens jeg var i førstegangstjenesten (ja pullertene ryker før trossa på de båtene). Det at de slår så mye i bølgene har faktisk ført til delamineringer i skroget som har måtte bli reparert på flere av de.
They are being upgraded and will be in service until at least 2030-2035, when replacement for them and the Frigates is coming. They will by then be old and worn out. They will also not work in the environment around Ukraine water.
@@詹中銓 they would have to wait until after 2035, at the earliest. But these boats would work in/around Taiwan water, these boats are build to hide, between islands and in fjords. The only advantage they could give Taiwan, is it's speed, that it can move fast from Taiwan to Penghu or Kinmen. But in open water, sitting ducks (targets)
Can i say as Norwegian, In all cindness and civilaced way . We dont shot to impress our self whit the bang of our wepons. we have respect for the pray. One shot. Vikings loonge gone. But the sword is 2023.
The coat of arms displayed in the video is indeed the correct coat of arms for the Royal Norwegian Navy (in Norwegian: heraldisk våpen med Kongeriket Norges rikskrone, blått et gull anker og korrekt våpenskjoldform for Sjøforsvaret, Norge). You will also see that quite a few other symbols in the Norwegian naval heraldry also have sky blue and gold (e.g. kvadrert blått og gult for Kystvakten, the blue and gold quadrants of the Royal Norwegian Coast Guard), and even some other bright colours (e.g. green), as formal colours of the tinctures of the Armed Forces of Norway are defined and limited to be: red, blue, black, green, and as "bright and clear". The tinctures also includes furs (brown) and metals, and that's where the gold (yellow on print) and silver (white on print) comes in. You are welcome to research and verify (search/ref.: Bestemmelse for Forsvarets visuelle profil, publikasjon Innføring i Militær heraldikk for Norge, Forsvarsstaben, siste versjon 2020).
Kinda hard to do... Also these were built for the Norwegian coast, and are spesifficly designed for Norway's waters, the camo is totaly useless and alot of other parts of it would probably just not work as well as it does up here in norway. Another thing to think about is that Ukraine, while they do have a coastline, and there has been conflicts on the water, it is nowhere near as much as on land. So they wouldnt realy do that much other than make russia angry (not that it realy matters anyway, bc they already are). I personaly think we are better off sending other equipment that is usable on either land, or both land and water, ive heard about some of the equipment getting removed from the Skjold's to get sent down to Ukraine. This is all even just ignoring that you even get them down there in the first place, which is a whole nother thing
Most likely the boat that carried the American an Norwegian Ops to sabotage the Nord Stream😏 (Im from Norway and not particularly proud of my country’s action on that matter)
These ships are very specialised, and got to know a guy who was a part of a civil defence unit, who were supposed to be deployed in strategical places.
These used fast 40 foot personnel boats. Worked very well together since both could be deployed quickly into shallow water behind islands or into small fjords.
Live on an island consisting of 100s of small islands, and it was quite cool watching these vessels 20 years back maneuver in tight and shallow spaces.
Sadly, "Sjøheimevernet" isn't around anymore.
I was stationed onboard KV Svalbard, the Norwegian coastguard icebreaker during the international excercise "Cold Response" and one of the Skjold class passed us at high speed in a fjord and let me tell you, those things make waves, rocked us like a bathtub and just as fast it was gone. just amazing boats all in all.
Also while in the US, KNM Skjold got a speeding ticket on the Mississippi, they have the ticket framed on the ship
Didn’t know you could get a speeding ticket on the Mississippi. At least In Wisconsin their is no speed limit on lakes or rivers, including the Mississippi nor speed limits on snowmobiles either. That’s funny though
@@MeanLaQueefa if i didnt see it myself i would have been skeptical too
These are modern day Viking ships, basically innovation in the same principles! Stealthy, litoral and fast..!
Not enough loot storage. A Ford Transit van or a VW Transporter van is closer to a modern day Viking ship.
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 This is many times bigger than a van. Besides, going viking is also an attitude and a statement. A statement of not driving a van when you can steer a ship worthy of the valkyries praise ✊️
@@GlacierCodfish No one you know has had the interior of their apartment speed away while inside a missile corvette. Someone you know has with 97% probability had their valuables loaded into a non descript van that sped away. Valkyries loves a practical Viking. Not getting caught or specifically identified is like 99% of a successful crime. No Viking wants to be met on an English beach with: "Did you pillage my wife and rape my cow last year? I thought I recognized the massively conspicuous almost unique ship".
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 ..But viking ships WERE completely different than the ships of saxon villages.. For an anglo saxon you can bet there is nothing "anonymous" about a viking ship.
It also holds the spirit of being the fastest ship of its time, and barely penetrating the edge of the water, like viking ships. Just wish we had many more of these, I want to see atleast a hundred of these! Only 6 vessels to cover the worlds second longest coast is.. low..
Norway is one of the few countries in mainland Europe which is actually stepping up.
look at sweden, already leading navy in nordic, still gonna get new and way better equipments
@@simonhultgren7778 Jupp Swe, Dk , Nor and Finland are Now NATO . We work togter
There is a huge difference in "Fjords" and "Fords"...
True
The Stealth capabilities of the Skjold Class is undercommunicated in this Video. Norway asked their closest friend, the US for assistance constructing a Stealth capable Wessel, and got a cold «No» in return.
Norwegian radar experts started from scratch, and made a exeptional capable Stealth boat. When the US got to hear about the Norwegian sucsess, they asked to research it.
Personaly I really think that Norway should have given the Americans the same answer that they gave them - NO!
The cannon can be operated by a wireless or wired hand-held pistol with a laser sight so that one can operate the cannon anywhere in the boats.
Seriously? That sounds usefull, but way too fun :D
it's okay toy to have, but they operate it from the C&C
The Skjold class was made using the topography in mind moving in places others can't and in water too shallow for most ships
The top speed is a secret. It reached far higher speeds than shown in this video during tests. It's faster than most speed boats.
I worked on a proposal to have squadrons of an upgraded variant of the SKJOLD acquired by USN to meet the LCS requirements. We lost to two classes of poor LCS ships. What a joke.
Yup.
For anti small craft duty something like this would make more sense.
Probably with added SEARAM and a box of VL-Hellfire.
If you are at liberty to tell more please do. The world needs to know the travesty known as LCS could have been avoided.
Yes and Lockheed Martin refuses to pay for the Freedom class vessels that have drive problems.
Can you imagine buying a new car without a warranty?
LCS and SKJOLD are wildly different. LCS is almost (3450 tons) the size of a Norwegian frigate (5290).
@@jimmiller5600 there was an enlarged version, making LCS looks like a toy
currently deployed aboard one of the frigates and i get to see these corvettes daily. havent seen one go full spedd yet
weird to see a video about something made in my town.
I remember always looking at these boats at the location they are made, there is even still one there today.
En mandal man, har masse familie der, og er der ofte på besøk.
Brilliant upgrades on the old MTB , quite capable of hit and run , seek and destroy
Send them to Ukraine! Send them via rivers and canals to Ukraine. The Russian Black Sea fleet must be destroyed.
Ya..som pipeline’n 😒
We need more small coastal patrol crafts for the uk
The UK wouldn't need these toys.
Update. I was wrong. I am sorry, that I didn't factcheck before jumping to conclusion. The blue and yellow is truely norwegian.
The yellow ancher on a blue background is .... (Drumrole) Swedish. Norway's colors are red, blue and white. 🇳🇴 But great boats. We should consider them in Denmark.
Every Baltic nation should consider them. They would be a strong defensive deterrent against Russia although the previously vaunted Russian juggernaut military is looking more like a Paper Bear.
The coat of arms displayed in the video is indeed the correct coat of arms for the Royal Norwegian Navy (in Norwegian: heraldisk våpen med Kongeriket Norges rikskrone, blått et gull anker og korrekt våpenskjoldform for Sjøforsvaret, Norge). You will also see that quite a few other symbols in the Norwegian naval heraldry also have sky blue and gold (e.g. kvadrert blått og gult for Kystvakten, the blue and gold quadrants of the Royal Norwegian Coast Guard), and even some other bright colours (e.g. green), as formal colours of the tinctures of the Armed Forces of Norway are defined and limited to be: red, blue, black, green, and as "bright and clear". The tinctures also includes furs (brown) and metals, and that's where the gold (yellow on print) and silver (white on print) comes in. You are welcome to research and verify (search/ref.: Bestemmelse for Forsvarets visuelle profil, publikasjon Innføring i Militær heraldikk for Norge, Forsvarsstaben, siste versjon 2020).
@@norsenomad I gotta say, I would never have thought that. I truely am sorry for my wrong justment. I should have check it out first. My bad.
@@KentAJDK
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U can drive a mlrs veh or a patriotic missile veh or any defense veh to park on the ship?
To think that little boat could knock out a aircraft carrier...
It would only get close enough if Norway had air superiority, otherwise its just a fast moving target.
To think that a little hypersonic missile could knock out an aircraft carrier launch from one of these 'little boats' in the near future.
@@Frog13799 It likely would, as our doctrine is to hold off til NATO cavalry arrives.
It depends of course on how far out the Carrier is staying. The main purpose of the ships are to stop major vessels from getting close to the coast. If they do they are toast. 150 km is not bad
No point of sailing a aicraft carrier i the Norwegian costal areas
How can lastly come before furthermore ?
Once carried out exercises with this ship, they are so so hard to spot as well in a fjord or rocky background!
Canada need some of these, instead of canoes with slingshots ahah
Canoes with slingshots are formidable weapons. No rada signature to speak of, stelthy as you get. Sneeky bastards
Looks like a tank in the rear and a Norwegian ferry in the front
The front reminds me of WW2 Higgins Boat
I can see the tank part, the ferry is kinda hard to see tho
Why doesnt the gun have camo, looks kind of odd given the rest of the ship does.
does a rock have multiple colors. The camo do work, have seen it parked next to an island, you barely see it (and I knew it was there)
Corvette's should be the warship of the future, fast, dangerous, inexpensive, easy to maintain and smaller radar cross section. Big, cumbersome, expensive and high-maintenance ships like Tico, Arleigh Burke, Pytor Vilikey and Moskva need to be fazed out.
Until it starts blowing 50 knots
dont know what rock uve been under. The moskva has already been "fazed out"
Nerd
Ships need a minimum size to be viable for long-distance missions, which is a capability expected of most navies. A corvette class is simply to small to bring everything it would need to be self-sufficient in all aspects.
@@tobiasrietveld3819 I do agree with that to an extent, I didn't put enough emphasis on 'future' by 2050 more efficient propulsion systems that don't consume gallons of fuel.
Montenegrin Navy needs a couple of these 🇲🇪🇲🇪🇲🇪
do they have the money for the fuel? There is after all 4 gas turbine (jet engine) producing more than 16000 hp. + diesel engine, powering fans, blowing air in under the hull.
Maximum 60 knots, and they dont have torpedoes as mentioned in the description
60 knots is the official number, but unofficially, small talk between people... close to 68 knots. And oh, he did say they didn't have torpedo, in the video. But it would be weird to have torpedo on that class, for example Mark 48 have a top speed of 55 knots, Skjold class is a bit faster then that.
@@heuhen"Finn håvard, we have to lower the speed to launch these torpedos." "Forget that, we as a torpedo is faster"
Perfect for the Philippine Navy. They've probably never heard of it, but it seems perfect for low cost and high manueverable defense.
I’m sure they have heard of it.
Low cost?!
@@UltimaSRi Yes, none of these weapons are low cost.
@@MrMcBrainiac Skjold is not cheap. NSM is very expencive..
@@UltimaSRi thanks for you response. Of course importing this would be very expressive, and not practical to purchase in any significant number, just like the Gripen
I was thinking more of the concept of a very fast platform, fast enough to be evasive and dangerous to any invasion force. A similar design and concept I believe could produce something useful domestically.
I don't see why this option wouldn't be far cheaper and more practical than other options. It seems like they have some domestic infrastructure, in shipbuilding and are not as helplessly dependent on foreign sources as is the case with fighter aircraft. JMHO and happy New year
What is the price of this ship
And the US navy picked the Freedom and Independence class LCS. And Lockheed martin refuses to fix the drive problems on their Freedom class. Can you imagine buying a car without a warranty?
The funny thing, when US Navy tested the Skjold class (a larger version of it was a contender for the LCS program), it had a combined Diesel and gas turbine propulsion, connected trough a gearbox. This was back in 1999. During testing they discovered that due to the massive rpm difference between a diesel engine and the turbine, the gearbox kept getting destroyed. The Norwegian Navy solution was to just replace the diesel engine with a turbine, some operate at similar rpm as the other turbine. Thus skjold have 4 Turbines geared trough 2 gear boxes, propelling two water-jets. The Turbine config is:
- 2 small turbine for low and cruise speed
- 2 larger turbine for cruise and high speed
- all 4 for max speed 60+ knots (unofficial close 68 knots)
The Freedom class drive problem, is the same problem Norway had with skjold class back in 1999. Where Norway solved the problem with go turbine only on the drive..
The problem Freedom class have as Skjold class had in 1999, is trying ot match a 2000-4000rpm diesel engine, with a jet turbine at 20000+ rpm, trough a gearbox. due to the massive rpm difference and power difference, the cogs in the gearbox will have to take all the pressure and heat, guess what will happen.
I've always wondered how much it cost?
A lot. The material itself is a trade secret and can withstand a lot of impact force.
The Philippines needs these kind of ships.. fast and maneuverable.
Not really. It's too under-equipped to fight blue water naval vessels, it's not seaworthy enough to venture far beyond littoral zones for patrols and it's too big and expensive for asymmetric warfare around Phillipines islands. It's a vessel designed for the unique environment of the Baltic Sea but not (cost)effective outside it.
“How they pack a punch?” I’m guessing that it’s because they are fast and have missiles.
Also close to invisible on radar.
Looks a lot like the Swedish HMS Smyge prototype vessel from 1991. Similar design& construction. It ended up in the Swedish Visby Stealth Corvettes.
I, too, talk like a normal human
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If they are going to build new ones today, diesel electric motors will probably be the same as in submarines
the technology has come so far that it is possible and they will perform just as well if not better.
What the range with full tanks? Probably secret i guess..
Well, one liter and one second!
Would be cool to know but yeah i wouldnt be supprised if thats classified
Officially 800 nautical miles at 48 knots speed.
I want lisence to built it.... excellent vessel for coastal defense purposes! Could be fitted with laser as well I guess...
Helge Ingstad was a pile of junk anyway, glad to hear they simply invested more into Skjold class.
.....rather the crew were junk...completely lost of understanding and awareness what they were doing...
@@Dan-fo9dk there has been alot of problems with these frigates. They came at a hefty price tag aswell.
@@EspenShampoo25 High price tag yeah.....but that has nothing to do with that there were an incompetent crew piloting that ship.
@@EspenShampoo25 Those frigates, compared to other nation frigates, was cheap. in fact they was to cheap.
@@Dan-fo9dk Many officers in the Navy warned about it, but it went for def ear. The report from the accident showed that Helge Ingstad could have survived that accident. There was reported that all hatches between compartments was open. If they was closed, she wouldn't have sunk.
As @Mats Norway, proclaim a pile of junk. I wouldn't go so far, yes there was some problems, but the ship is as good as it's crew, and the crew is as good as the training the receive. Norway sends their men to the Royal Navy for a sort of "exams", where they Royal navy have on occasion warned about some problems, mainly coming from the Norwegian Navy training. I would never give the crew full responsibility, some of it yes but not all, there is people above them, in offices that should have listened to warnings.
The pile of junk... The class was designed from ground up as an ASW ship not an AAW ships (some people dram about), the idea of calling them "multi role" was more politicians wanted to make it look nice, when they was paying the bill, in an project the government damaged. The government gave the Navy an economy limit and requirement limit and basically forced the hand. I know that as far back as in the early 90's the navy was talking with the Germans about frigates, long before the project started.
These frigates was build to survive a torpedo exploding under the hull... so long they keep all hatches closed.
Come a long way from the old "E" boats!
America should have bought those instead of LCS.
yea at least they were proven the LCS will be huge over price patrol ships. yes they can bring a lot more firepower but bigger version of this would of sufficed.
couldn't think of any more names starting with an S i suppose
They are quite obviously admirable military tools, fulfilling all military targets. Shame they couldnt do anything about the sound. You can hear the "stealth " boat many kilometers distant - a constant roar which gets louder as they come nearer.
Hmm i guess noise was left off the drawing board.
well .... by the time you hear it, it probably would be too late .... with its 150 km range Naval strike missiles... that btw also is pretty stealthy.
@@arcticblue248 185 km btw.
Stealth means radar detection in this case.
Thats out of the box thinking.
These things should be around a carrier group deploying passive sonobuoys all over the place. Fully equipped for short/med range AA warfare, rushing to where they need to be. A naval iron dome that can move much faster than what they currently have. Supplies and fuel can be transferred quickly and easily from a tanker, off you go to your patrol area. Cheap, small crew, not a juicy/priority target for anyone.
I disagree. Their range is far from good enough to travel along side carriers, not to mention they are not very good in high sea states. They have poor anti air capabilities, and helicopters are far better suited to be dropping buoys. They should stay near the shore and only come out to fire anti ship missiles on data-link targets provided by whatever finds it.
@@wackysparrow1768 ....range...??? One of those, as said in the video, had taken the trip across the Atlantic to USA. So where is the range problem when such a ship can cross the ocean under its own power...???
....and who told you about poor sea capabilities. If there is a coast in the world that knows what weather is than it is Norway.... So the ships are actually constructed to cope with those conditions....
@@Dan-fo9dk If you think it had an easy time getting to the States you’d be wrong. They also didn’t go the direct route. These ships have to time the weather right just to get to England. The Norwegian coast can see some shit weather for sure, but these boats can drive most of the coast in littoral waters where they won’t see waves bigger than a meter or two and even so they regularly get stuck die to weather. Yes they CAN go into higher sea states at significantly reduced speeds, but that doesn’t mean they should. They also can’t recieve fuel at sea as easily as proper sea going vessels. If you use them like Robert proposed; around a carrier group at high speeds they’d have to refuel several times a day. And that is in the very unlikely event that the weather would allow such driving.
@@Dan-fo9dk Well they had to coordinate with the British navy and the US Navy, to have tankers waiting for her, out in the Atlantic, they had to refill underway.
@@wackysparrow1768 Skjold class was designed to be able to operate at 45 knots in 4 meters waves. (it was one of the minimum requirement). The effect of the Surface effect hull on these ship, make them handle bad weather quite well. It is first when you come over a certain wave height, they are forced to droop speed, mainly due to they can't hold the air between the hull. If I am not remembering wrong from back then:
- at sea state 4: 60 knots (1.25-2.5 meters) (it's an surface effect hull, it love waves)
- at sea state 5: 45 knots (2.5 to 5 meters)
- at sea state 6 at reduced speed: 20+ knots, (mainly due to the problem with holding air, between the hull, in some wave direction (4-6 meters)
- at sea state 7: speed bellow 15 knots that would say 10 knots, crew comfort
For fueling at sea, it have to been done a lower speed, where they tanker they are fulling from, is the fuel line, I have seen it been done at 10+ knots, some are a bit fun.
When Skjold class move from west coast of Norway to the Northern part of Norway, they go out in open water, due to speed restrictions in areas. "Breakfast in Bergen, dinner in Tromsø" (some have been done on some occasion)
I wish that when people make these video they would use the 2 minutes it takes to look up how to pronounce the words -.- FRIDGEOFF nansen -.-
It pains me to hear it
Mistral system is being replaced, as it was/is being donated to Ukraine.
is nice have Norway and norway get soon more new ting
USA makes a good video of Norway soon is more is coming😊🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Really?
ひょっとしたら。日本には最速の盾が必要なんだろうか？
With Japan current strategy and the problems Japan have with North Korea (missile testing), and China. What Japan need is ships like Frigates and destroyer. Specially frigates, specialized in submarine warfare.
The Mogami class frigate is good, but they are not so good at hunting submarines.
Ships like the Skjold class in the video, is only effective, if you have a coast like Norway, where it can use fjords and islands to it's advantage
ГДЕ. У НЕГО. РАКЕТЫ? Я не вижу даже намёка на порты, люки или пусковые установки...
I want one
Very cool!
SUPER IDEA ,POMYSŁ NA PATROLOWCE . POZDRAWIAM .
Archi P E LA GO 😂
This is sadly just fake, because we all know, norway does in fact not excist :)
As a Norwegian I know the answer to Norway not excisting...😂🇳🇴
suprisingly you do not exist, either
I knew it!😅
The mistrals are now in ukrain
Excelente… 👏👏👏 Noruega 🇳🇴 👍 💪
Suecia podría seguir su ejemplo 😊 … ✈️
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No, Noruega!
@@thomasnorb4077 Perdón por el desliz…
Corrijo ☺️
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Where and when is the vessel speed shown in this useless video? Absurd.
It is horrible in high seas. Slamming the waves like a rubber dinghy. Fun fact: The beds have seatbelts because of the bad characteristics in waves so you don't fall out when you sleep.
In hva slags værforhold gjør de det (bølgehøyde). Jeg har sett at de slår spesielt mye, når de ikke kjører luft mellom skroget
@@heuhen De oppfører seg som en gummibåt i nesten enhver bølgehøyde. Jeg var på en minerydder med samme designet, og heldigvis ble ikke jeg lett sjøsyk, men veldig mange flere enn på en vanlig båt ble sjøsyke hver gang vi gikk over stadt eller hadde litt sjø. Båtene er også et stort vindfang, med veldig lite som stikker nedi vannet slik at de påvirkes veldig av vinden. Og når de da heller ikke har baugpropeller men noen luftutblåsnings porter for å fungere som det så er de ekstremt vanskelig å legge til kai når det blåser mye. Vi røyk en pullert rett av ved to anledninger i mye vind mens jeg var i førstegangstjenesten (ja pullertene ryker før trossa på de båtene). Det at de slår så mye i bølgene har faktisk ført til delamineringer i skroget som har måtte bli reparert på flere av de.
These will soon be phased out,and probebly be donated to ukraina !
可以廉價賣給台灣嗎？台灣急需這樣的武器對抗比俄羅斯還強大的獨裁專制共產國家！
They are being upgraded and will be in service until at least 2030-2035, when replacement for them and the Frigates is coming. They will by then be old and worn out. They will also not work in the environment around Ukraine water.
@@詹中銓 they would have to wait until after 2035, at the earliest. But these boats would work in/around Taiwan water, these boats are build to hide, between islands and in fjords. The only advantage they could give Taiwan, is it's speed, that it can move fast from Taiwan to Penghu or Kinmen. But in open water, sitting ducks (targets)
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Pakistan 🇵🇰 Navy must have these P965 Patrol Boats ASAP 🚢
Why? The Chinese have a similar vessel and much cheaper than this.
@@nilanjangupta763 Then again ... its chinese ... Quality is not their best thing, especially on stuff they steal the design on.
Pakistan will never have them! that simple
Can i say as Norwegian, In all cindness and civilaced way . We dont shot to impress our self whit the bang of our wepons. we have respect for the pray. One shot. Vikings loonge gone. But the sword is 2023.
you had the Swedish crest instead of the Norwegian.. Do a bit more research. This is just being lazy.
The coat of arms displayed in the video is indeed the correct coat of arms for the Royal Norwegian Navy (in Norwegian: heraldisk våpen med Kongeriket Norges rikskrone, blått et gull anker og korrekt våpenskjoldform for Sjøforsvaret, Norge). You will also see that quite a few other symbols in the Norwegian naval heraldry also have sky blue and gold (e.g. kvadrert blått og gult for Kystvakten, the blue and gold quadrants of the Royal Norwegian Coast Guard), and even some other bright colours (e.g. green), as formal colours of the tinctures of the Armed Forces of Norway are defined and limited to be: red, blue, black, green, and as "bright and clear". The tinctures also includes furs (brown) and metals, and that's where the gold (yellow on print) and silver (white on print) comes in. You are welcome to research and verify (search/ref.: Bestemmelse for Forsvarets visuelle profil, publikasjon Innføring i Militær heraldikk for Norge, Forsvarsstaben, siste versjon 2020).
Bro didnt fact check before writing this comment💀
"Do a bit more research. This is just being lazy."
says the person randomly claiming that its wrong... without factchecking
Norway should offer these to Ukraine victory to Ukraine
Kinda hard to do...
Also these were built for the Norwegian coast, and are spesifficly designed for Norway's waters, the camo is totaly useless and alot of other parts of it would probably just not work as well as it does up here in norway.
Another thing to think about is that Ukraine, while they do have a coastline, and there has been conflicts on the water, it is nowhere near as much as on land. So they wouldnt realy do that much other than make russia angry (not that it realy matters anyway, bc they already are). I personaly think we are better off sending other equipment that is usable on either land, or both land and water, ive heard about some of the equipment getting removed from the Skjold's to get sent down to Ukraine.
This is all even just ignoring that you even get them down there in the first place, which is a whole nother thing
Most likely the boat that carried the American an Norwegian Ops to sabotage the Nord Stream😏 (Im from Norway and not particularly proud of my country’s action on that matter)
There is not a shred of evidence to support that theory, neither does it makes sence at all.
For en Nordmann er du latterlig hjernevasket... Flaut at du tror på slike konspirasjonsteorier..
vi hadde ingen ting med det å gjøre tomskalle
They need them against Russia
old news?
Yes pretty old.