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Fez reminds me too much of Mac miller it's weird
Okay, but how did the actor, Angus Cloud not get more hype from looking like Mac Miller especially with what happened in 2019?
I feel like they did that on purpose
...he wasn't Mac Miller ?....
&it's mad ironic. Cause mac miller died from an overdose😐
Onkgopotse Pule omg omg I forgot about that it’s definitely weird
Euphoria has problems as a show but the way Nate is portrayed and showing people what can happen when a privileged man raises and abuses a privileged boy and the utter destruction that boy can bring to the lives of the people outside his home....fantastic
Right? I just lovee that idea for a character it's just so unique and necessary 🙏🏾👌🏿
I’m with you and that’s defo the way it’s meant to be portrayed however the way Nate is developed makes no ounce of sense to me.
SPOILERS
Cos you can understand why he beat up Tyler because he thought he r worded Maddie. But then he blackmails Jules after flirting with her for a while and tried to exert power over her with no back story or indication that he’s got a screw loose. It just seemed to me the writer (Sam Levinson) wrote it this way to bring about a certain outcome but not one that made sense with the writing of the character.
There are too many holes with a lot of the things characters did which seemed to me like the plot drove the characters rather than characters driving the plot.
ally He did not believe that man r*ped Maddie. He saw the numerous videos that were recorded of them having sex in that pool and she very clearly was enjoying herself. He also knew she was lying when she said what she said to him but in some psychotic coping/denial mechanism to keep their relationship alive and as way to provoke fear in her (in an indirect threat of harm to her through harming another person) he beats the bloody hell out of that college dude and makes sure to let her know what he’s done _and_ that it was because of/“for” her. After the guy is hospitalized he says something to her along the lines of, ‘I did this for you’, thereby simultaneously invoking guilt and fear in her. Sick and fucked up shit. Highly psychopathic if you ask me.
@@soulsearcher7077 I didn't interpret it in that way thanks for the clarification. That aside, I still find a lot of plot holes with his character.
ally he grew up with an abusive power hungry dad that exerts complete control over his family. So when Nate sees Jules he see someone that is small and feminine that he can exert control over with his size and with blackmail, control that he doesn’t have in his everyday life. “His loose screws” were meant to be conveyed in his episode by showing his twisted relationship with both parents, him finding that video of his dad at such a young age, how he acts within his household or when his parents are around vs. how he acts at school with his friends and peers. When he’s with his friends and peers he doesn’t need a reason from them to try to get control or gain the upper hand because he’s just going to do it anyway cause that’s the only time he feels he can be fully in control.
Jacob Elordi ate his role as Nate , I have never hated a character so much in my life.
AND the scene where he was fighting with Eric Dane was *chefs kiss ... truly amazing
What about Bryce walker from 13 reasons why
Yessss he’s such good actor and the scene where he had that meltdown was just UGHHHH
exactly i think he needs bigger roles like that. he’s a phenomenal actor
same
Ever notice how in shows, black men are usually dark skinned/full black and the women are always light skinned/biracial? It's a trend.
They hate us
Bc being light skinned is supposed to be feminine and being dark skinned is supposed to be masculine 😕
@@Kittenheelxoxo okay but brown women and darker skin tones are gorgeous and don't bake and redden in the sun and peel like other types of ppl.
RED EYEZ WH1TE R4BB1T how tf does light skin = femininity and dark skin = masculinity. So you’re saying dark skin women are masculine?
I dont understand. There are dark skin men in sooo many shows and movies and no one has a problem casting them but why not dark skin women?? It makes no sense
Lexi needs more screen time! Fez needs more screen time!
Ashtray needs more screen time
i think the creators were talking about either lexi or rue's sister (can't remember sorry) definitely having their own episodes???
MY GOD YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL I-
Can we talk about how Zendaya is like remember her on kc undercover now to basically a druggie 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Destiny Jadee nah remember her on Shake it up she sure is shaking them drugs up now 😭😭😭
Side note: if labrinth isn’t doing the music for season 2 I’ll riot cause the music made everything 10x better
PERIODT!!!
Facts!
Exactly! This soundtrack was so beautiful and creative. Ugh that made me love the show even more
facts
OMG YES
Can we discuss how the actor that plays Nate went from “The Kissing Booth" to “Euphoria"...can we talk about major upgrade in acting opportunities? Cuz whew the kissing booth was HOT TRASH
omg yasss !!!
It really shows the power of a good script and good writing has
The funny part though is he has to go back to the kissing booth because they made a second movie so he has bad, good and then back to bad😂
Bhaswi Singh honestly it’s irritating to see people say he should be grateful and happy to be doing KB2. Like um no, the series is trash. The writing is terrible. His character has no development whatsoever. Like if I were in his position, I’d be miserable too (not saying he’s miserable but his lack of enthusiasm in promoting the movie is making people think he’s miserable). But unfortunately for him KB2 and KB3 were filmed back to back.
Rachael Mends yea it’s really messed up I feel like he was finally being taken seriously after Euphoria came out and now he has to go back to KB2 and 3. And it’s just practical acting. I fully agree with u
Kats storyline isn’t as liberating as ppl make it out to be
peachiida ! Right this evil world we live in makes every sexual or promiscuous act as liberation
@@domination6585 which in theory, isnt a problem. the problem is when sexuality is used as a mean to cope for things that need to be addressed. like kat: shes insecure with her body???? (i believe), so she uses sex to hold whatever power that she thinks she has. sure she may feel sexually liberated for small moments, but the root problem of insecurity isnt getting fixed.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Her being a cam girl is also extremely dangerous considering she’s a minor
Exactly! We literally see her breaking down and crying because the way she’s changed herself isn’t making her as happy as she’d thought it would. And i think it’s fine that camming and dressing more provocatively isn’t as fulfilling for her as she’d hoped; i think it’s okay that the show is portraying that way. But people shouldn’t paint it to be something that it’s not. And it especially shouldn’t be glamorized and encouraged considering she is a minor !!!
@@DoodleDoo2 I worry for her.
I👏🏾 WANT👏🏾 A👏🏾NONSTEREOTYPICAL👏🏾 DARK SKIN👏🏾 BLACK👏🏾 GIRL👏🏾 IN👏🏾 THE👏🏾 SECOND 👏🏾 SEASON👏🏾
PERIOD. We sick of sassy black friends.
McKay is a black guy in college with a white high schooler girlfriend whose only personality trait is linked to sports (AKA his football, which also is rarely developed) with an absent black parent, anger issues, and he also forces himself on his said girlfriend then forces her to get an abortion. Rue is the only girl close to black and she has a lying problem and is a teenage drug addict who starts the series off in rehab then overdosed AGAIN in the last episode. Imagine thinking you’ll get anything other than stereotypical.
Deadass! We need black girls who are more than just the sassy best friend.
Yes🙌🏾
imagine if she was alternative and goth omggg i'd die
The show is so good because the high school villain is actually smart. It's not just brute force or bullying, its pure evil genius. I hate Nate but he had everybodys card by the end of the season, his only liability is his dad
yeah. he is a GREAT villain. he makes you mad and nothing will be greater then to see his downfall. i can’t wait to see everything come crashing down for him. 🥰😂
I feel like they gonna show his downfall in s3. Hopefully there’s gonna be a s3
Maria McAnumel me too!!! bc i don’t think it would do any good to resolve everything so early like the second season. bc i also think we haven’t seen the worst of the WORST of Nate yet. that makes me scared, but excited lowkey 😂
The hate for Nate gets ever worse with the fact that he plays football and his dad is the coach or assistant coach
Yep agreed
euphoria is set in California in ur telling me there isn’t any darkskin ppl, asian ppl, darker skin indigenous ppl like- MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
right like something is up with these casting agents
Johanna Casimir it matters so there is diversity in the show and that other actors of a different race and/or ethnicity can show off their acting skills , sometimes POC and people who are not of colour get tired of shows not getting the diversity in shows and seeing the same demographic every time
Wouldn't it be a little forced? I would like it if they include them in a natural way
"Wouldn't it feel forced?" Not necessarily? Depending on what part of California it feels more forced not to have Asian people, Latinos, dark skinned black people, etc
Not sure what people mean by "I wish they would include them more naturally rather than forced " what's forced? What's naturally? Wym?
Unpopular Opinion: The writers should’ve done way more with Mckay. His character is a perfect example of toxic masculinity and parents holding their kids up to such high expectations to the point where it becomes damaging to their mental health. I hope we see more from him in season 2. Also I’m so glad they didn’t go with the whole “hood struggle black dad leaves” trope🤗
I was thinking about the whole show like his character needs more development
that was the POINT
his backstory in the beginning of the episode is shorter then everyone else’s
The actor quit no?
He was a rape victim too he needs to attention and storyline and show his struggles with ut
Fez was a KING. POINT BLANK AND THEE PERIOD.
Edit: Though he's the one who sold Rue the drugs in the first place.....So....There's that............................
The first episode of season 2 better be dedicated to him and his little homie bc we need to know what happened in that last episode!!
I love him
My favorite character by far.
still mad we got an episode on mckay and not him
he is the homie and is always there for you which i luv
I think the portrayal of Rue's addiction was scarily accurate. It might feel like it was "all for nothing" to see her "end up in the same place" in the end, but that's usually how it goes. Recovery from drug addiction is not linear, and I think the frustrated reaction you had to her relapse was exactly what Sam Levinson wanted you to feel.
Omg that's what I just said! Because it's not that easy.
THIS!!!! super hyper realistic
True. People think that once someone is sober they just stop being an addict. There's no such thing, they're a RECOVERING addict bc they will have to fight their cravings for the rest of their lifes.
yes!! thank you for actually looking more into the show and why its written the way it is.
The director was actually an addict at some point so he made this film from experience
Something that always bothered me was in Maddy's episode, they said she lost her virginity to a 40 year old man when she was like 14 but "she had the power". What the fuck???!! A minor can NEVER have the power in a situation like that smh
In my opinion that was the point. Rue is definitely an unreliable narrator, but communicates the perspectives of the characters. Maddie is an emotionally immature teenager who relies on her sexuality as a source of influence and power, without realizing how that opens her up to danger. I know many people with similar stories who lost their virginities to older people and thought they had the power in the moment, only to realize how much that experience messed them up later in life. I imagine Maddie later in life will realize how badly this has fucked her up. Honestly though I don't give the writers that much credit to have made that intentional, that was just my read of the line.
i was literally watching euphoria when that scene showed up I was so confused and disgusted. do the writers not understand that if an adult had s3x with a minor its automatically rape cause MINORS CAN'T CONSENT.
😂She did NOT have the power
“Fez (snaps) KING”
I felt that, especially when you find out that he didn’t even audition they randomly picked him, he wasn’t even an actor before that. No choice but to STAN
euphoria is honestly an amazing show, i just wish dark skin girls could be represented in the show :(
I feel that as well, it would have been awesome to see dark skin girls, Afro-Latinos, darker skinned Latinas. I love Kat & Maddy, but not all Latinas look like them, with pale skin & Straight hair, id love to see some deep caramel-darker skin Latinas with thick wavy or curly hair portrayed as well. Girls from Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Honduras, El Salvador & not just the whitest looking ones!!
5,ooo LightYears Away If it’s completely fiction then why not? Not all of the characters are friends there could at least be a few darkskin girls in the town.
5,ooo LightYears Away just like how not every friend group has a pale skin latina with straight hair, so somebody can be replaced
@@ramoniquesmall3470 lmaooo exactly
Ramonique Small Girl, thank you
If rue’s sister DOESNT GET A PROPER STORY LINE I’m simply suing
Also: DID YALL NOT SEE VICTORIA MONET ON THE BACK OF CASSIE’S ROOM DOOR?!
We love taste 😌. And ROYL By Chloe and Halle in the SHOW........I NEED IT NOW
I saw Victoria monet as well. Loved that
I was waiting for her sister and lexi to have their own episodes the whole season!!!
yes ROYL for the final scene of season 2 yup
Off topic but ur profile photo is the same as my Twitter one and I deadass thought you were me 💀💀
vic was in euphoria ??! omg i have to go back and see her i love her sm
There are also no Asians, dark skinned black women, and Indigenous people on the show, like what's up with that?
Light as a feather watch it and trust me
I find it interesting
Obviously it would be SUPER GREAT if the cast was really that diverse but most shows don’t have that much racial diversity (which is unfortunate, of course). But Why hold euphoria to a different standard? I’m seeing a lot of comments like this, it kind of confuses me
sabrina w I get that but Euphoria prides itself for its so called “diversity” and honesty it’s not that diverse. Don’t pride yourself in something that is not true. I think that is why people are complaining.
Ish Malhotra that’s bc euphoria is diverse compared to other shows. diversity isn’t just about race and ethnicity, it also includes, gender, weight, sexuality, height etc.
I mean of the 7 characters that got their own episodes 4 are people of color and 3 are women of color. I think that’s pretty good representation.
“Cassie’s my favorite character” aged like milk😭😭😭😭
it’s just so funny how fezco’s brother is 11 years old and is a literal drug dealer and no one cares 😭😭😭
maddie t he’s supposed to be 14
From the way he acts I forget his kid sometimes which is sad but yeah
It's a sad reality for a lot of kids though ngl
Tbh I feel like he acts as more of a comical relief character
Girl I seen a 12 drug users a dealer is nothing
You can’t lie and say zendaya didn’t play the hell out of rue that open the door scene gave me chills and made me cry
Mariah&WhitneyLamb the hallway scene in episode 8 I believe the flashback with rue and her mom CHILLS
Yo that was so realistic I could really feel for Fez there bc she wasn't just a regular consumer to him he actually gave a shit about her. Even tolerated her shit when she wouldn't leave his place til that scary ass drug lord came in 😭.
Umm I feeel like the whole cast played the fuck outta there characters
@@kkandsims4612 HONESTLY it’d be so weird now if someone else played each of them I’ve gotten attached
@@janellcharm the was improv
Euphoria hints at how people glamorize issues like sex drugs and abuse. Lexi for example is considered boring compared to her sister cassie and shes sad that she doesnt have as many love interests as her, yet cassie ended up having to get an abortion. And that one scene where nate and maddy walk into the party together. Its that thrill of having all eyes on you but nate abuses maddy and maddy would sacrifice someones whole life for nate. This is not okay at all.
euphoria is one of the least diverse racially diverse shows😭 no asian men or women, no darkskin women, no visibly latinx people, like-
right and the fact that people say it’s diverse is shocking to me. Like having one mixed girl, a darkskin guy and a white passing Latina is not diverse.
As a Latinx Madi was definitely not white passing she may be a bit light but that's most Latinx celebs but she's still clearly Hispanic
@@jennawoods13 yea I've seen her in a vogue get ready with me TH-cam video and she mentioned her mom being latina
Glenda Reitze Yeah, I remember Maddy’s parents speaking Spanish. Maybe Kat Latinx was too, though I’m just guessing from her surname
umm maddy and cat are latinas
I liked Jules. Butttt, I really hate how Jules acted toward Rue - she just strings her along for the ride knowing she’ll follow. She’s a very complex character, but I wish rue had more of an answer as to Jules feelings towards her other than a friend. Like during the Halloween party.
THANK U omg
exactly
Rue realizes what their relationship meant on the last episode thats why she didnt get on the bus
I like that they didn't make Jules perfect, because before Rue was only clean because of Jules and not for herself
Basing off your recovery off of a person esp. a love interest is pretty risky, and kind of toxic
I like the message, since it caused Rue to relapse cause she's shouldn't be a reason to be clean
@@kerri6011 i dont think the relationship was toxic, ru was definitely co dependent on Jules but its because Jules never judged her or tried to hurt her or made her feel bad about herself because she was a drug addict, Jules wasnt just fun she was freedom and she relaxed Rue and those are all the reasons why Rue didnt love her but she loved the affection and ambigous guidance she gave her all the things she cant get at home that's why they always compared jules to a drug that will have painful impact but something she get over in time, thats what those inside the mouth tattoos signify.
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Right litterally FEEDING us
Princess Manasse I love how you’re probably still watching whilst reading this comment💀
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Can I... can we talk about how this is the third show in a row I've seen in the 2019-2020 circuit where a white girl gets pregnant via her black boyfriend and has an abortion? And two of these were secret abortions? I'm not saying I'm connecting dots, but there are indeed dots. From Sex Education, to Euphoria, and in Little Fires Everywhere. And each of these boys is a sports star at their school...
wow. i honestly didn’t notice that when i was watching any of the shows. and the fact that all of these scenes were influenced or thought upon by white writers...
Blackbyrd yeah it’s weird
damn I never thought about that....weird
Woah that's weirf
There’s also a movie called Waves that’s problematic for it’s own reasons but it too has, well sort of, an abortion and it’s between a white teen girl and a black wrestler teen boy, it came out in 2019 as well.
Oh this a whole movie , let me grab my snacks 🤪👏🏾👏🏾
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Oh. My. God.
WHAT THE HECKKKKJHKHJHK
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Queens supporting queens🙌🏾🙌🏾 we love to see it
I definitely want Fez and Lexi's episode next season. And the writers better not touch Ethan cause I don't want to be disappointed. Let us have this one pls. 😔
duamoon I feel like Lexi has feelings for Rue
@@bog4543 Totally agree and I really want to see their relationship develop. Idk I just want Lexi to be happy.
Etho The Frog I agree that’s why Lexi needs more screen time 🥺
i knooow. i love ethan he’s one of the few genuinely good guys this show has (prob just him & fez r good guys) but throughout the season i felt as if they were prepping us/ setting him up for doing something bad and i don’t want that 🥺
Jennilier Needs to fart and i felt like lexi was the only one who genuinely had rue’s back! all of rues other friends cared more about themselves than her (understandable because theyre young), but lexi was always actually looking out for rue.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A DARK SKIN GIRL WHO’s RUES FRIEND...
how about a dark skin girl lead in general
Or gf/bf???
bro i volunteer LOOOL
@@taiahguess3342 ohhh
@@taiahguess3342 THISS
i really wish they had fleshed out mckay’s character. his story seems like the story a lot of black boys experience. he can’t express himself or his anger unless it’s in a way that white people find “acceptable” (sports). people hate on him but ion think they really think about it. he’s a product of his environment. the product of toxic masculinity. and i love cassie and her character is so interesting but she’s literally a cheater and that’s so...
*kenzie* exactlyyyyyy his story is realistic but it could’ve been deeper.
Ok but did Cassie REALLY cheat? McKay literally said they weren't in a relationship.
Well considering McKay Slvtshamed her and said they weren’t dating i wouldn’t say Cassie cheated and if she did it was 100% justified.
@@FellDownTheCornHole i love cassie but cheating is never justified
I don't think Cassie cheated. He never officially established a relationship with her because of her reputation
About the "Larry" thing, I 100% agree with him being frustrated about this. He's shown many times he was uncomfortable with being shipped with his bandmates, and dismissing him because he hasn't made a song in a while feels direspectful. The writers could've used something else for that part. I'm sorry, it just rubs me the wrong way that he expressed that he's uncomfortable about it and no one cares because he's 'irrelevant'.
Like it could have been another popular gay ship if they were set on the idea for example - Drarry, which is a fictional ship. And if they couldn't do that due to copyright issues, they could have made something up. I've seen so many people affected by people shipping people In real life. Like these two preformers in China can't be seen together anymore because of censorship due to shipping.
Exactly, this girl was corny for telling him to be ok with it. Sexual predator behavior.
I love the development of jules because she was very complex, like we see that she lives in the fantasy of a woman, that’s why Nate likes her, from the clothes she wears, always wearing a skirt, and the way she likes older men normally whites, and being submissive, and it is quite evident that she has a complexion about being trans and unfortunately is afraid to fight that women can be more than they make it seem, I really hope that next season she becames more confident about her self
the scene where she imagines nate in the danceclub in my opinion is the most powerful scene but ik most people would disagree
Period, also jules slandering is so obviously rooted in transphobia but yall aint ready to talk ab that✌️😕
The makeup artist for the show said that Jules’s makeup looks and outfits change throughout the course of the season to demonstrate how much more comfortable she becomes with her gender expression!!
Valentine2000 no I agree with you there. There’s something about them choosing to put him in make up too that’s so powerful to me and I’m not even really sure as to why
julieta !!! People are slandering Jules because she’s trans? Where? I have not seen this?
Rue & Fez’s relationship made me so emotional the whole season. 🥺🥺🥺
Taylor Williams Lol. Heeeey 👋🏾 Thanks for watching!!!
Am I the only one that genuinely doesn’t want a dark skinned black girl in this show.. I mean, of course I want to see a dark skinned girl on television, but this show would not be the show to do it. People are begging for this show to have a darker female character but it literally would not work out. From what I’ve seen from the casting calls and stuff, the only role that they have that people are asking for is a girl who is a stripper and the basic ghetto stereotype.. She would be the black character that we have been complaining about seeing on television, and I am tired.
So true omg
I got tired eons ago .
I hope I get to produce movies so that all colours could be represented . I'm not shading the show tho , I think the plot was awesome
this series was not really about race. Just in case you didn't know Euphoria is actually a true life story of Sam who made the show (which is somewhat obviously exaggerated) but he could have quickly chosen a Caucasian male to play the role of Rue but he didn't and yes I do understand your frustration but come on now we can't always complain about everything and if you actually even think about it no one else would have given the role of Rue more justice as much as Zendaya has so please let's spread more love and let's not bring down other black people just because they are Biracial so they don't fit on a certain category of either black or white. I'm sorry this is long but I really love Zendaya and as much as people are entitled to their opinions she really did well on the show.
@@RealRamRamInThecut How come whenever we ask for a little representation in television, it’s shot down as a petty complaint? The show is amazing, I’m just disappointed that I don’t see characters of my complexion on the screen.
@@tiffanytheclinician you want see people like you go to BET or Oprah Winfrey Network you see a lot people like you or just watch shows with a lot of black people
Ooh girl!! You nailed it with "Queen" Misogyny! They love women (or queens)....only if they fit whatever box of attractiveness and/or respectability they determine is good and worthy of being caped. Drake is a great example of this. These may be the worst misogynists because they think they are good guys/nice guys.
Am I the only one that thought they didn’t have more black ppl on the show purposely. The way McKay was forced to work harder by his dad was because he was the only black guy in a team full of white kids. And the fact that Gia gets into a relationship with McKay’s brother just shows that there wasn’t really any other black kids to be in a relationship with. And rue’s mother only being in relationships with white men. Like maybe rue isn’t aware of the struggles of being a black girl cuz she’s always blended in with all the other white kids at the school which contributed to her issues
Rue isn’t a black girl. She’s mixed.
Literally Figuratively nope don’t even start with that stuff rue is a black woman. Zendaya is a black woman. Just looking at her she looks like a light skin black woman
@@patriece2215 Zendaya refers to herself as a mixed woman. Us saying she is mixed does not discount the fact that she is black it just means we're acknowledging both sides of her. She has also stated that she is "societies ideal version of a black woman" because she is racially ambiguous and light skin. You keep calling mixed women black and watch us get replaced in all forms of media because "WeRe AlL bLaCk".
**Aurora** yeah I know that it’s the way that person said it, like they were intentionally tryna discredit her blackness. That person was under a bunch of different threads saying that she wasn’t a black woman
**Aurora** We have to keep saying that zendaya is also a black women because people continue to downplay that she’s a black women
I hate shows that say they have representation but they only ever cast light skinned poc
I didn't mean rue should of been played by a darker skinned actress and zedanya should be replaced. I just mean someone of darker skin tone should also be included.
When did they say that?
If anything it represents drug abuse and has trans rep. Where did they say anything otherwise?
ok ... tf?
zendaya played tf outta the role so nobody cares....
When did they say they have representation...I’m confused
What bothers me about the lack of dark skin representation is simply that there’s no reason why we can’t be represented.
It wouldn’t make any difference to the story or plot if any one of the characters was dark skinned. The problem is that screenwriters can’t have a dark skin girl cast without having her whole storyline be focused only around her race and skin as if dark skin women don’t face any issues besides racial/colorist ones.
Also, someone pointed this out in the comments, Asian representation is needed in this show👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I absolutely loved Euphoria though, it was an amazing show and like Amanda said, we’re demanding Fez and Lexi’s episodes next season otherwise we riot.
@Unknown gacha Its not a bad thing to talk about race at all but it becomes a problem when a character has no goals or personality and is defined solely by the racial issues they face. We have so many other parts of our lives separate from those issues and while they may be some parts of our lives influenced by said issues, there are so many nuances to us as people that its tiring to see us reduced simply to the color of our skin and the racism we face.
this series was not really about race. Just in case you didn't know Euphoria is actually a true life story of Sam who made the show (which is somewhat obviously exaggerated) but he could have quickly chosen a Caucasian male to play the role of Rue but he didn't and yes I do understand your frustration but come on now we can't always complain about everything and if you actually even think about it no one else would have given the role of Rue more justice as much as Zendaya has so please let's spread more love and let's not bring down other black people just because they are Biracial so they don't fit on a certain category of either black or white. I'm sorry this is long but I really love Zendaya and as much as people are entitled to their opinions she really did well on the show.
@RealRamRamInTheCut I absolutely love Zendaya. This wasn’t intended to bash her or her performance. She 100% deserved that Emmy cause she played the hell out of Rue. I was just talking about the lack of dark skin representation as a whole. It wasn’t meant specifically to target Euphoria or Zendaya at all.
stupidcow I think you should go on bet or own they have show with a lot of dark skin people
@@ninainezaca159 blacks people always think is about them 😭
Fezco and Lexi need their own episode. We need to see why Fezco started selling drugs and how Lexi feels being overshadowed by her older sister.
Characters who need their own episodes in season 2 are:
Fez, Lexi, Gia and I’ll go ahead and throw in Ethan, BB, Nate’s potentially not as shitty brother and... let’s go ahead and make no named dark-skinned cheerleader a character too.
Things that might as well happen while we’re at it:
let’s go ahead and make Fez, McKay, and Nates potentially not as shitty brother the same age so we can firstly give them all more age appropriate friends and secondly explain why McKay is friends with Nate to begin with.
Can we also figure out how the aging scale in this show works too? Because Kat was in class with Jules at the beginning of the show and said she was 16 in the carnival episode but she should be 17 going on 18 since I’m assuming Lexi is in junior year with Rue (as they went to pre school together) and Jules which would mean Cassie is a senior so that should also make Kat, Maddie, and Bebe seniors as well. If they’re all Juniors and Cassie and Lexi are just Irish Twins then that makes her and McKay’s dynamic even weirder and just further highlights the need for him to have age appropriate friends.
Lexi does have a personality!!!! she's just quiet and reserved 🥺 and there's a lot we don't know about her
Honestly I personally find her the most relatable. Like she’s an introverted, calm, quiet teenager which is the relatable for a large group of teenagers. Just cause she ain’t out there doing crazy ass stuff like the rest of them it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a personality...
she reminds me of sable from animal crossing 😌
I hope there's more of her in season 2. I'd love her to have her own storyline
Shailyn L. She’s also relatable in the way that I feel that shes dealing with a lot of things on her own ( her daddy issues that haven’t been shown, her mom being an alcoholic, her friend being a drug addict, her sister getting all the attention etc)and she’s always there for people but no one if there for her, so she deals with it on her own and has this front of being “ normal “ and not having problems
Yesss. She’s my favorite character tbh.
It’s not that I hate Jules, it just IRKS my being just how BLIND she is to how much she affects Rue’s life
i agree but i feel like she knows exactly how dependent rue is to her BUT she doesn't want to break rue's heart (and cause her to relapse and probably die, and rue eventually does relapse) AND jules just isn't for the whole co-dependent relationship. yes, jules is rue's friend but she isn't responsible for rue's decisions. how is jules supposed to help rue with anything if rue jumps from addiction to addiction? rue and jules have different views of friendship and neither can communicate that!! so both are quite literally walking on eggshells with each other. i lowkey just want jules to tell rue that she can feel rue getting super attached to her and that she does not want to be her next 'drug' BUT she wants rue to know that she wants to help in any way she can but that her effort should not be misread as her reciprocating her feelings. i remember in the halloween ep, rue saying that she wanted to ask jules what was wrong but she was afraid of the answer, and I WISH SHE JUST ASKED (altho i doubt jules wouldve told her about nate) but i'm not the writers so...
I hated Jules in the show 😂😂😂
Mymy Searcy Jules got on my nerves to she kept leading Rue on which got on my neeves
@boulderarms yeah i agree
Same. I don't even know if I like Jules or just have a crush on Hunter Schafer
even tho she was quite the manipulator & toxic when it came to nate, i especially liked maddys character because she wasnt a typical mean girl u see in every show/movie, she was quite sweet, didn’t constantly put other girls down which is much more realistic than the cliche mean girl trope every show/movie likes to go for
Yes, I was discussing this with my friend. Maddie isn't even a 'mean girl', she's just popular and aggressive LOL. She talks to everyone equally even as noted in the scene where Jules told her she deserves better than Nate 🤔
IS IT A CONSTANT TREND of teachers being useless and spineless in tv shows..ughh
Aldrine Were that's how it be tho irl 🤷🏽♀️
@@xxgigixx6001 exactly but it shouldn't... Aren't there jobs to teach and take care of students
@@RM-mg7oz yooo teachers like this just be messy
Wheres the lie lmao
Life imitates art
I dont really think rue died at the end of the season because at the whole montage of all for us we see rue starting to drift away like she was dying, BUT almost at the end her dad pushes her back to the direction of her mother. Also I think one of the producers confirmed that rue overdosed but I dont think she died
Personally I think she overdosed and that it’s going to be the final wake up call for her where she’s going to really start getting sober for herself and her family, since she realized the importance of her family and how she couldn’t leave them behind when she was at the station with Jules.
It’s been confirmed she’s not dead lol
of course she can’t die then euphoria would be over
I know I’m a year late but listen to All of us by Labrinith and Zendaya she “hey I might live to 25 tonight if it makes me a king a star in your eyes “
Nate and Maddie’s relationship made me realize how hard it is to leave a toxic relationship .It’s like ,at some point you assimilate the condition and get used to it but it will never be fine
i think that the monologue talking about nate's type was all just about how he hated features that represented a man's features bc of his closeted sexuality.
The first time o watched I try to follow those things 😭 so embarrassed of past me 😭
@@secre.e6870 girl me too, I was such a pick me holy f 🤡🤡🤡
Kat maybe was wrong. But I think people are forgetting that Maddy and Nate have this constant thing where they break up and get back together again. I’ve been Maddy before and my friends made it very clear after a certain point that they didn’t want to hear about the abusive guy I was dating. I also think people see Kat as the “fat friend” Maddy included. The fat friend is supposed to be available for emotional support, the voice of reason, she’s supposed to make the skinny friends feel better about themselves and I think Kat was done with that. Kat answered the phone, she heard what Maddy had to say but decided that what she wanted at the moment was more important thank Maddys second breakup of the month. Kat didn’t play into the fat friend trope and I love that about that scene. Like if we really pay attention to Kat, not once did we see her being her true self with her friends until she got into that argument with Maddy I don’t think she was comfortable with them, look who she was venting to about being a fat girl, one of her clients. I think their relationship Maddy, Cassie, and Kat was all very one sided. Everything was about the “pretty girls”.
okay and the fact that daniel was a brown clearly latino boy in kats episode and then when he’s a teenager they decide to cast him as a white boy???? like not even white latino just plain white he dead looked like Ted bundy in the halloween episode
not ted 😩😩😩
I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THAT
funny you say he “dead looked liked ted bundy” because i think he dressed up. . .as ted bundy. . .in the halloween episode
Honestly he turned white
anya emmanuelle that’s why she said it lol as in actually looked like him
I haven't finished the video yet, but the scene where the teacher asks Rue to talk about her summer in front of her class really hit me. Without exposing myself too much, when I was in 11th grade, I spent two weeks in the hospital due my depression, and obviously my mum called my teachers just to letting them know I wouldn't be going to school for a while. Days later, my friends came to visit me at the hospital which surprised me (since apart from the teachers, no one else was supposed to know I was there) and that's when they reluctantly told me that one of our teachers (the only male one) revealed the whole class my situation. According to my friends, one of my two female teachers had lost someone during that time, so she broke into tears and left her room. It was such a d!ck move! I became so anxious that I asked my doctor to delay my return to school for a couple for more days, just so I could prepare myself for the possible questions I'd get. Fortunately, my classmates were very respectful, didn't ask me sh!t and agreed that teacher was an idiot.
I’m so sorry that happened to you and I hope that you’re doing better now! That’s awful
that teacher is a dick! hope you're doing well now
Ur teacher is totally our guidance and counselor . Ugh !
I'm so so sorry . Hope ur better now .
I need a teen dark skinned black female character, a teen hispanic male, and a teen asian girl. I need more Lexi PLEASE.
Nooo why tf yall want black women to represented in that light!?? As IF WE ALREADY DONT HAVE ENOUGH NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES! Nooo as a dark skinned black woman i was happy to finally NOT see a dark woman on here!
go watch grand army 😌
i hope it means your definition of asian includes indians and middle easterners bc god knows how underrepresented they are wrongfully so
you dont need it like you need oxygen and water, calm down
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Not everything has to be taken so seriously in the youtube comment sections. Your frequent capitalization and punctuation errors prove that, love. I'll continue expressing my excitement the way I want to, and you can continue commenting like an elementary school student.
Why aren’t we talking about how much of a king Ali is? The most underrated character by far. The most morally just character too.
I low-key want an Ali episode because he's such a mysterious character. I feel like we got a little glimpse into his life in the special episode when he called his daughters, but I need to know more about his back story!😩🙏🏽
Btw, are people really still getting upset at dark-skinned black women (especially young girls) for wanting representation in the media that we consume?
*"Oh, but at least there's one [light-skinned] black girl..."* ok why do you think we should continue to settle for less Janet?? 😑
Imagine how tired we are
Im black, not light skin, and agree with waning more diversity. but i hat when has all they say abt the show, like it doesnt make it bad.
@@17Jahseh17 Oh, don't get me wrong. The show is really good, I love it and can't wait for season 2!
But *it's tiring to constantly being ignored by a media that's aimed at your demographic, but fail to represent someone who looks like you on it. Especially by a show that's being praised for being diverse and groundbreaking. Not to mention how non-poc - who clearly can't realte with your situation - always try to invalidate your feelings and opinions. Coming as far as accusing us of hating a show just because we made one valid criticism about it.*
The U.S (just like the whole world) is so diverse but, in this case, when it comes to american teen shows it seems like they always go for the same types of teen characters - at least physically:
- one light-skinned black (or, more often, biracial) girl who don't even have any other black interactions (like friends, lovers...) outside her own family;
- one latinx/hispanic boy or girl;
- one dark-skinned black male;
- IF lucky, one asian character in a secondary role;
- and the rest of the cast tends to be white.
*Young american black girls shouldn't have to settle for biracial/light-skinned girls as their only "representation" since they don't have the same experiences at all. And their experiences deserve to be on the screen too.* They shouldn't have to resort to, for eg, South-African shows like "Blood & Water" either to finally see people who look like them on the screen, because an american teen experience is also different from a south-african teen experience.
Honestly, the only dark-skinned black girls I can remember are: *Josie* who was removed from Riverdale as soon as her character didn't serve Archie's anymore; and *Annie* from 13 Reasons Why, but we know nothing about her life. She's just there as to narrate S3 events; support the main characters and being romantically involved with a rapist. So.... yeah.
@Annie right? we're tired
@@carriesnaps3508 well said 💯👏🏾👏🏾
Of course they don’t see a reason to be upset, because they have their representation.
Honestly I know Maddie's fashion is everyone's favorite in the show and the most popular, but Jules outfits ate all the girls up and no one talks about it. Like HEAR ME OUT: her fashion is representative of the trope of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Compared to other characters, her bubbly personality and fashion is played off like its fairy/ethereal-like and it makes the most sense when you understand the role of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl and fully explains the toxic (YES I SAID TOXIC!!!!) relationship dynamics with Rue. They are served to make the person who is falling in love with them the sole reason for their happiness and is seen as otherworldly/not like other girls type vibe. I love LOOOVVEEEEEEEE how Jules became self aware of it(roller rink with lexi/convo with dad) and decided to distance herself from that role she is being perceived as, subverting the role. That was such a smart move on the shows end and no one talks about it. But aside from that small tangent, Jules ate the girls up and I'm not debating that point😌
Edit: ok WOAH didn't know this got that man like I actually forgot about this comment lmao but THANK YOU SMMMM
Period
ahh yes exactly!!
I still fricking hate her bruh
Totally agree
yesss
for season 2 of euphoria. i want the writers to go more in depth with rue’s sister, gia. because no one ever talks about living in the shadow of an older sibling that’s been to rehab and in and out the hospital. i wanna know how she’s dealing with all of that at such a young age. seeing her sister on her death bed,, u don’t forget that. and ik she has emotional trauma that the writers need to discuss. because i relate.
as somebody who struggled with addiction at Rue's age (I'm 20 now), I was so hesitant to watch the show when it came out because I was worried that they were going to portray that situation unrealistically, or even worse, glamorize it. but I was blown away with how accurate and honest those scenes were, especially since it was a young girl in high school. the details felt so real and hit so incredibly close to home. obviously, I'm only speaking from MY personal experience, and I'm sure Rue's story wasn't accurate or similar to everyone's, but it struck such a deep chord in me. in movies/shows, most stories that tackle the brutality of addiction fail to recognize that many people with addiction DO function, they CAN still go to school and live a semi-normal life. that's why so many don't get help until they can't manage anymore. that's also why it can go so unnoticed to the people around you. you can feel like you're drowning yet nobody seems to notice until its too late. that's the truth for many people who slowly get sucked into things like opioids or stimulants.
I think it was extremely ballsy to actually admit that drugs can be fun, but that's one of the reasons why I loved the way it dealt with the storyline. it's honest. it shows WHY she got hooked and didn't shy away from the truth. and then to show the pitfalls of it and consequences and the way it can quickly ruin your life...yeah, I just appreciated it a lot. a huge reason why people get hooked is because they try drugs and realize it makes them feel better than they ever have, and that's not something any adult or educational program would (usually) dare to admit. I don't view it as glamorization at all. I view it as honesty. it was saying, "hey, yeah, this stuff can make you feel on top of the world. but you will hit the lowest lows you've ever experienced afterwards, so those few moments are never, ever worth it." I genuinely believe that's more effective than saying, "drugs are bad! they will make you crazy and you'll die or go to jail!!1!1!!!" scare tactics can only go so far.
but I respect those who disagree with me and still say it glamorizes drug use. though I would argue against that for a multitude of reasons, I'll just leave it at that. I'll admit, I can definitely see the concern for really young viewers (like under 17 or 18 y/o) who are seeing drug use in a show for the first time. I could see how kids and young teens may not fully grasp what they show is trying to say. but, it IS rated TV-MA for a reason, you can't blame HBO for young kids watching it behind their parent's backs or something. still, I understand I guess.
honestly, im 14 years old, and i watched this show, and i wouldn’t ever think twice about doing drugs now that ive watched it. its the kids who are uneducated who end up drug addicts, yknow? they end up not knowing the cruel reality of relying on drugs to live. you can’t just protect your kids from crap like this forever, this is the real world, and stuff like this happens. i agree w you, i don’t think this is glamorizing drug abuse, and also ur so strong and brave and ilysm 🎀💓💗✨💘💕💞💖 🎀
@@latifahm.2499 “it’s the kids who are uneducated who end up drug addicts” uh no, not all the time. I was 15 and was very educated on addiction/drug use. Most the addicts I know were not the “uneducated” ones. I’m 23 and still struggling with addiction, not for lack of education
@@jaebby9695 oh im so sorry u went thru that i was just talking abt like the kids who dont know how bad drugs are for u but u are totally valid and i understand now and also you are so strong for making it this far and im really proud of u
As a 28 yr old recovering addict, I could not agree more with everything you said.
All of the relationships on this show are toxic and MESSY. There needs to be more representation of black girls instead of a biracial girl and her crew of white/ambiguous but you’ll know they’re Latinx because their last name is Martinez friends
Edit: About my original comment, I wasn’t specifically targeting Maddy’s character or her actress. I was referring to how in media as a whole, too often they find the lightest possible Hispanic/Latinx person they can (or even a white person) and say “We’re diverse, this character isn’t white! Their name is Maria Martinez so they’re obviously not white!” While neglecting to give them an actual personality besides the diversity card. It wasn’t meant to specifically target anyone except for the writer who continue to do this.
Hispanic folks has black people just letting you know. The only difference is that we speak other language
Latinxs is the correct term for "Hispanics" which is a term used to identify people from spain. Latinxs is a term that is gender inclusive in the community and racial inclusive because Latinxs are both Black and White and all shades in between. Please educate yourself on the term Hispanics because it is incorrect. Also Martinez ? Really? Maddys last name was Perez. This just seems like someone who wants to stand up for Latinxs but doesnt know how to research and word your paragraph correctly.
@@magic8records hispanic refers to all spanish speaking countries love....
Danielle Dominguez um I was told that Latinx is a term for people from Latin America, and Hispanics are Latinx people who speak Spanish. I have a friend from Brazil who’s Latina but not Hispanic, and she was the one who explained this to me. I hope it makes sense 😅 Not trying to re-explain anything to you (especially if you yourself are Latinx/Hispanic), just saying what I was taught because I was confused at some point and this explanation made the most sense to me. Have a nice day! ♥︎
Danielle Dominguez I’m sorry for using the wrong term, I’ll change my comment. The statement about the last name was used to highlight how they’ll pick white passing latinx actors and the only way you can tell that they’re not white is because they’re given a clearly latinx name. Maybe instead of assuming my beliefs because of one misused word you could just correct me and move on but go off ❤️
my favourite part of the show is the representation of mental illness. when rue describes her entering a depressive episode ITS SO ACCURATE i literally quote the show now as a way to describe it to people. it was always hard for me to put it into words and they did it so well!!!
honestly i was so glad seeing her describe that depressive state she went into because that is EXACTLY how it feels. ive never seen it represented on screen as anything other than "girl cries in her room but still looks beautiful somehow" when in reality a depressive episode will have u looking awful, dark circles and everything
beanie /ᐠ-ꞈ-ᐟ\ yes omg and the way the anxiety is described I loved this show so much
The way it was depicted was so raw and so relatable to how I feel when I undergo depressive episodes. I had to pause the show to compose myself because it hit too deep.
I AGREE
We can all agree that on the last episode when Rue relapsed we screamed at the screen “NO WE WERE ROOTING FOR YOU 😭”
Fr I was so sad
asian representation was lacking as well :(
Lacking??? It was non existent.
i hope it means your definition of asian includes indians and middle easterners bc god knows how underrepresented they are wrongfully so
I read that Jacob elordi improvised the scene where he bangs his head on the ground and he ended up getting a concussion so yes give him the Emmy lmaooooo
That's not how Emmy works lmao
are you ok no , he confirmed it in an interview.
@@h922js he lied
eliza lmaoooooo because you were there???
@@rachaelmends3582 No,
she is correct. The director of euphoria (sam levinson) said in an interview that he was also shocked when he heard about his concussion. And even if elordi had it, he didnt tell it to anyone in the crew. Sam said that the floor was covered in soft foam and body doubles were used whereever neccassary.
Ps: eng is not my 1st lang.. i hope u understood what i meant☺
Amanda said “ y’all are in a crisis , I’m on my way” when posting this vid 🥺💘
Euphoria was over sexualised and no one can change my mind. People saying that’s ‘real’ and ‘how high school is’ are very much in the minority sorry (EDIT: I’m not saying teens don’t have sex and there isn’t drama. A show that depicts this perfectly is SKINS gen1 and maybe gen2 do a WAY better job and for nudity Normal people (it’s on bbc or Hulu))
I agree
yeah.. not saying that stuff doesnt happen.. but it is definitely not a highschool norm
your experience isn’t universal tho like when i was in school literally everyone was having sex by the age of 15/16, those who weren’t were the minority where i’m from
Absolutely. A lot of unnecessary nudity that doesn’t add much to the actual storyline or aesthetic.
just cuz u didn’t have that high school experience showed in Euphoria doesn’t mean other people didn’t have it
I would like to watch a virgin character, Like not sexualized virgin (I mean put a virgin just to a shocking point when he/she loses) just a virgin because them want and portrait it as a positive thing. And showing their struggling about not having sex in a sexualized word.
I think that's Lexi
That’s what Lexi is
Just a suggestion, instead of using he/she, a better way would be using ‘they’ but that’s just a suggestion tho!
@@Orchidlettux thanks
Literally Lexi’s character
Did anyone realize in that picture of Nate Jacob’s family there was 3 sons but we only see Nate and his older brother? Like what happened to the 3rd brother???????
THANK YOUUUUU
YAS!!! I want to know who it is!
It might be addressed in season 2. Watch us find out that Nate killed him or something dark bc Nate truly is a hot mess
Rachael Mends ooo good point!
@@rachaelmends3582 or it could be his crazy af father
These comments would make a better diverse story line then anybody in Hollywood
CHILE You aint wrong. If only hollywood ever took these concerns on board
I'm already on to it lol
Jessica Azubuike they think there too good. That’s why I I like short films wayyyyy better because they are made by people without alot of money n connections
Windyii yesirr
I had a lot of issues with some of the color blind casting especially in McKay’s case. I feel like his storylines were the least realistic and his role seemed like the typecast white jock. Also, I love that Euphoria is portraying the “hot guy” (Nate) as the main villain because that’s usually how it is in real life. I have met guys who are just as evil as Nate, so they were spot on with that.
Mckays story about having to suppress his emotions fits him as a black male. It makes sense that his father is the one that tells him to do that, especially considering the fact that, they’re literally in a white dominated neighborhood where kids don’t have any problem w throwing racial slurs around. His dad telling him that if he lets his emotions lose then he “loses” is also realistic, because we know that a black boy fighting a white boy, even if the white boy is in the wrong would probably end with the black boy being portrayed as violent
the way u were right about nate’s gun red flag and it coming back in s2
Euphoria for the gen z’s is what Skins was to millennials
I am a gen z but I prefer skins.
Love both but yeah, true
I’m a gen z but I like degrassi I liked skins too euphoria is great too I like all 3😭
Sharna Grayson those are my 3 favourite shows. Amanda BETTER review Skins. I want to see her vent about it for an hour.
@@matthewalexanderfabian9931 Are you talking about UK skins or that failed MTV US version because I feel some type of way about an American dissecting a show based around British teen culture in the mid to late noughties.
i’m not asian, but where is the representation?? we need more Asian cast in more films than just ones dedicated to their race.
Facts
Breanna Rose yes! We need Asians on the show
I agree for representation but that doesn’t make a show bad. I went to the comments for discussions about the show and all I’m getting is these comments. (That I agree with) But that’s not all to the show😭
Maybe an Asian who is not the smart one also or has extremely strict parents
SomebodyCallChief i love every aspect of the show aside from that. it’s so raw and the acting is incredible. the hairstylist’s/makeup crew/and people in charge of the outfits need a raise for sure. it’s honestly one of my favorite shows, and i adore zendaya so much. it’s ok to have critiques for shows u like :)
Didn’t agree with the Larry part at all, the fact that euphoria or hbo didn’t contact louis AT ALL about that scene is unprofessional. They aired a smut scene between his former band mate??? That’s not right. He has younger siblings and a kid, that’s not something anyone would want a bunch of people to see, consent is important in situations involving sex/sexual content.
Yeah she missed me with that, and i was never a one direction fan
Exactly, she should’ve done more research before running her mouth. She’s a cornball for that.
honestly, if i was louis, i'd be pissed too. imagine everybody thinking you're in a relationship with an ex-bandmate for a DECADE then a popular tv show makes a whole sex scene of you without ur consent. tbh he had every right to be mad about it
exactly what im saying.. it was really ignorant of amanda to say that i dont understand why she said that to be honest.
@@lanakat That’s not really Euphoria’s responsibility though. Of course, Louis has the right to be upset about it but them making a clear mockery and joke of fanfiction is just that, a joke. It was never portrayed as something realistic or serious. He can’t dictate if ppl reference it or not when it was a big part of 2000’s kids culture growing up.
Agreed. This girl should be humiliated. Like girl are you that dumb?! I’ve been scrolling to make sure I wasn’t alone.
Also doesn’t Nate have a missing sibling? I’m pretty sure it was shown in a family portrait but never talked about.
His brother was at the Chile contest the carnival
Janell Sutton no, like in the portrait there are three children, Nate, the brother who was at the carnival and another child who we never hear about
Viviana 3525 wait a min lemme go rewatch season one 🤦🏽♀️
Viviana 3525 yes i rember
wait the brother at the carnival, is he the older brother or the younger brother? did the show mentioned this, could it be the missing kid is from the photo is eldest one?
i can't be the only who likes listening to amanda rant???
it's mesmerising it's actually insane
She could talk about what shit looks like and I just might keep listening
Why else would we be here
That's why we're here🤷🏾♀️😅 Kween Amanda has the best hot takes
I mean that's why we all here😭😭
The thing is when you force in diversity like adding a black friend they get stereotyped or become a side character
true
True. I wish there was a character like a Maddie who was a dark skin girl. Tbh the only side character in Euphoria was that girl BB
True- id want a darkskinned girl who fleshed out and isn’t the “yass queen sassy hype you up” friend, and i want her to join Maddy and Jules in constantly turning out looks too.
I was Kat back in HS (except the cam girl/pay pig bits), so I was totally OK with her not responding to Maddie's cry for help. Kat was definitely the "fat friend"/mother hen of that group. Maddie could have called Cassie or BB (IDK??...the one that vapes and has no actual story besides being Greek chorus/instigator). Note the pecking order. When they slept over at Maddie's, Kat is always on the floor, not sharing the bed with Maddie. Kat's "empowerment" may still be based heavily on male gaze and tends to ignore her insecurities and self-esteem issues, but I was good with her not being the mule for her friends with "boyfriend" issues on the simple fact she didn't have a boyfriend and was a virgin. And I also get the feeling Maddie can be kinda needy for affirmation and looks to her friends to give it to her, regardless of what they may be going through and in her view, her pretty privilege makes her a higher priority.
I absolutely agree- I just wish they’re relationship had been more fleshed out. I really liked how they didn’t do the yypical “jealousy” trope and pit the two of them against eachother. Instead Kat just kinda stood up for herself. It’s just it kinda came outta nowhere and left almost as quickly, like I feel like, there should’ve been an explanation, like Kat should’ve been like “babes im not ur emotional support dog who u can call all the time I’m my own person” or something like that idk
In this kinda of sleepover someone has to be on the ground 😭 maybe she was there just because the scene would work better since was focused on how she was sending hiding messages
Yes you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for saying this.
I can't blame Rue's mom at all. I feel there's so much she went through on her own and she just had to bottle it up and tough it out for her family. No help from friends, aunts, or anything, just her and herself only. She probably was really lenient and let Rue slide with a lot of stuff, so I can understand her moments of anger and frustration. But there's also really sweet moments of understanding and nurture.
Yea rue is a lot of work so I get the anger and frustration
yea i love Rue’s mom because she may act out of anger or frustration sometimes but she really wants nothing for the best for her kids. but it must be hard being an only parent, getting over the loss of your husband, and trying to figure out how to properly care for a drug addict teenage girl who has mental health problems. AND having another kid you have to split whatever time you have with.
@@4words11letters6 A lot of parents simply give up on their kids, it's sad. I'm happy her and Rue can still maintain a decent relationship.
tbh people always complained about how much drugs and adult themed concepts are in the show, and that it doesn’t happen at regular high schools. but babe, yes, it does. you were just sheltered and lived in an area where these types of issues and real problems didn’t happen on a daily basis. it sure did for my school lmao.
isra mine too LMFAO
SAME
k but they totally romanticize addiction and make it look like an aesthetic... like bitches making edits of that shit
kids in 5/6th grade in my school were already talking about weed and exchanging "flavored" condoms. I was on the sidelines and just saw everything I didn't understand why they needed to be flavored back then until now and I'm shocked 💀 lived in the same area for middle school/hs so you can only imagine how much worse it got
same
I love how they showed reality of social media. When Rue literally was Having a panic attack. They were filming her
lexi deserves an episode..y did mkay get one and lexi didn’t she’s is a saint
The writers for mckay are trash, they just sideline the only black man in that show, pratically giving him nothing to work with. 20% mckay and 80% cassie in HIS OWN episode
“i’m so sad and short” AMANDA PLEASEKSJSJSK these mckay drags are too much 😭😂
did you just have a stroke there
my opinions:
- this is a great show that realistically portrays drug addiction, sex, and toxic relationships in high school.
- i wish rue had been a darker black girl. there’s always that token racially ambiguous black girl that shows have, yet never a dark black girl. it’s like shows want the “representation” without the underrepresented members of that race. they do the bare minimum.
- i want to see some asians on this show. as a pakistani i never see anyone that looks like me portrayed in a positive or even realistic way. tv shows constantly write asians as passive, nerds, and out of touch with pop culture, especially south asians.
- nate is a great character because he is very complex. his unpredictable thinking and actions kept me on the edge of my seat. however the ppl who like him as if he isn’t toxic and abusive... get some help please. also the ones who ship him and maddie.
- mckay is not a good boyfriend to cassie and she deserves better. his initial reaction to her pregnancy was very uncalled for and he didn’t even support her through the abortion.
- jules needs to ground herself. i feel like she’s being very erratic as a way to deal with her issues and it’s not good for her. her relationship with rue comes off as toxic because i don’t really think jules is in love with rue.
- kat and that dude she got with (i forgot his name sorry) are so cute. they’re literally the only two not in an unhealthy relationship on the show lmao.
it’s been so long since i’ve watched this show so i might have mistaken some things, my bad.
no rue doesn't need to be exchanged for a darker skinned girl one of the white characters should be replaced...saying that the only black women should be replaced while not criticizing the white cast isn't as woke as you might think
s o ohh yeah you’re right, it would be better if they replaced one of them. i hadn’t thought about the large amount of white characters on the show.
you should watch the show sex education it has really good representation of 'cool' south asians. i feel the same way as a dark skin black girl we never see good representation. it's a shame that south asians and dark skin girls don't have more representation.
We need more south Asian & middle eastern representation !!!
I competently agree omg you read my mind
10:55 girl you called it... Nate + guns was a bad combo from jump
Honestly, Louis’s anger about the fanfic was understandable... a lot of celebrities no matter what dislike shit like that. HOWEVER it’s not like what the show did was new. Girls back then did that a lot on Wattpad and still do. So this wasn’t anything new. That scene was iconic because of how relatable it was to all of us in middle school. But like I said Louis had a right to be pissed. I mean if I was shipped with Harry, hey thank god, but Louis must’ve felt uncomfortable
Imagine if Fez was a black guy: Nate calling the police on him would have a whole different tone
I think Fez is lowkey white passing latino.
Neon Lights latinos can be white, black, mix, etc. maybe fez is a white latino. Im afro latina by the way.
Neon Lights latino isn’t a race, there are white latinos
this hit a little different. I didn’t even think abt that. the whole scene would have changed.
Imagine if fez wasn’t a drug dealer... oh wait
Something I like about Euphoria is the fact that Jule’s being a transgender woman wasn’t something that was greatly focused on (although that is obviously an important part of who she is) and they made her more than just her body you know? I agreed that Jules wasn’t the best person ever but I also thought it was important to realize that Jules had a lotttt of shit going on. Nate blackmailing her, her family issues with her mother, Rue depending on her to stay sober, that’s a lot of stress for a person to be under especially given everything she is going through
Wait, Jules is transgender? 😮
Yes! I love the fact that Jules was a mess. Half the time when they add minorities to shows they make them perfect people because they’re afraid of upsetting viewers, and then their minority is their only personality trait, leading the characters to come across as one-dimensional, and making it feel that the character is part of a minority just to fill a quota.
Exactly
@@squidwardtentacles7144 yes! As well as the actress playing her, Hunter Schaffer. I didnt understand at first that Jules was, as well, until I saw her in her underwear and I backtracked a bit to check if it was really. I love the fact that they didnt make it a big deal, it being subtle and taken to stride by her peers made it even better for me
I genuinely didn't realize she was transgender until her episode 😅
being trans, nate was a very accurate representation of a psychopathic, manipulative character that girls like us need to stay far far away from.
I FLIPPING loved Ali. I think his delivery was so spot on, I can’t even explain it.
His conversation with Rue in the special episode was DEEP. I really hope it affects her in a good way in s2
I was shook! How do you steal a scene from the main character? This man should teach a class!
So is no one gonna talk about how kat just gained a bunch of weight by drinking multiple piña Colodas over the summer I was genuinely confused 😭
For what it’s worth, she likely wasn’t exercising or anything. Drinks like that are just empty, delicious calories. I think Harold on Hey Arnold gained a ton of weight while he was on vacation. In general, it seems easy for children to gain weight. The same thing happened to me when I was little.
She drank ALOT over the vacation, those or full of sugar and calories
Children tend to gain weight faster and she wasn’t doing anything else besides sitting and drinking heavily calorie drinks and probably eating fast food every day too due to it being vacation
i went to mexico when I was 8 and came back chubby with cholesterol 😭😭
Ok but over the years she got bigger
Imagine how tired we are. IMAGINE HOW TIRED WE ARE of not seeing any dark skin people! Ugh. No Asians either. No indigenous! What IS THIS?
@5,ooo LightYears Away
euphoria not REALL. So Yes I 100% expect there to be one cast member of every race yes! It’s a fake world made up world. Therefore they can literally have one cast member of every race and it won’t hurt them at all! Stop defending them! A friend group CAN be diverse! If your world isn’t like that, that’s you. But euphoria can make it happen. They have no excuse
@@maroonhorizon1693 💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I hope we will see more diversity in the next season but I still really love this show:)
Maroon Horizon cone on keep real real you really think a dark skin girl will have friends like what they show in the show 😑
this series was not really about race. Just in case you didn't know Euphoria is actually a true life story of Sam who made the show (which is somewhat obviously exaggerated) but he could have quickly chosen a Caucasian male to play the role of Rue but he didn't and yes I do understand your frustration but come on now we can't always complain about everything and if you actually even think about it no one else would have given the role of Rue more justice as much as Zendaya has so please let's spread more love and let's not bring down other black people just because they are Biracial so they don't fit on a certain category of either black or white. I'm sorry this is long but I really love Zendaya and as much as people are entitled to their opinions she really did well on the show.
What's crazy was that euphoria calls Daniel verbally abusing Cassie a "reality check" on the youtube channel.
*I think they should introduce a dark skinned black woman who is in a relationship with fez and that'll feel like a major sister for rue*
the name... maybe Amaris? idk
I like this
I saw another comment about this and now I want it so muchhh
Amara would sound nice.
Can we address the fact that most lesbian/wlw couples involving a PoC are between Lightskin or mixed black girls and white women.
Ex. The Fosters, San Junipero, Euphoria, etc. Only exception is Glee, Killing Eve, and The Handmaiden(but the PoC in all of those are lighter skinned).
is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Also might add that Hollywood thinks interracial relationships are exclusively black and white like let’s switch it up a bit please
glee is definitely not an exception considering santana married brittany.....
and the white women usually aren’t lesbians?? like they’re bi or not exclusively into women
I would love to see more interracial relationships between PoC
Let's be honest here Rue and Nate carry this show. Nate can be a monster yes, but Jacob's acting is on point. Without them this show would be kinda monotonous.
So true
Someone had to say it
No lies here
as well as Jules
@MymysKarma he did
I really like the scene of 'Detector Rue' it was a relief from the abrasiveness of the whole show trailing all their toxic characters. And for some reason, the new in town character 'Jules' which might have a different perspective or such, happens to be not it..
And yes, Fez is king amd needs to get more screen time, so does Lexi
Unpopular opinion: I'm not mad that Euphoria doesn't give dark skin girls representation. Let's honest here. If a dark skin girl was cast on this show, her character would be written in a negative stereotypical light. I don't need to see a dark skin girl acting like a crackhead.
Right lol. I was thinking there would be a need for one, but after reading a couple of comments... I was like “yeah... um. Maybe they don’t need a dark skin girl on the show after all.....”
also i don’t get why people think california has the highest diversity, it really doesn’t.
euphoria is in suburbs california and it’s predominantly white and hispanic there.
True, and if they were to put a dark-skin girl in WITHOUT her acting like a crackhead, most likely she would have been portrayed as a teenage prostitute or something. Why? Sam Levinson, I guess.
WE NEED DARK SKIN CHARACTERS
Watch Blood & Water. That way you don’t have to beg to be represented and support actual black shows
Literally Figuratively You literally go from comment to comment saying ppl r wrong for asking for more representation you’re really gross
The only thing is I hope they don’t write the dark skin character bad. And we need more backstory on McKays brothers cause those three are the only black boys in the whole show
you dont need it like you need oxygen and water, calm tf down
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE TEACHER WHO MADE RUE TALK ABOUT HER SUMMER. I HATED THAT SCENE SO MUCH LIKE FOR REAL, ARE YOU DUMB? WHY WOULD YOU.... WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT.
ps. I lowkey hated McKay.... I’m so glad you didn’t like him either... “IM so sad and short!!” GOT ME 💀💀
As of right now I don’t know how I feel abt Jules as a character, I started off really liking her and hoping she’d be Rue’s saving grace. Jules just ended up stringing Rue along, ignoring Rues feelings MULTIPLE times, and just straight up left her in the end KNOWING and NOT caring that Rue is unstable and how that could effect her.
That isn’t okay, and it’s toxic friend behavior and a lot of Jules behavior triggered me bc she reminded me so much of toxic friends I’ve had to deal with.
I think a lot of the points you made were the issues that the show wanted to make apparent... I thought the things that you were going to mention that were wrong with the show were going to be how they could’ve improved the show. You talked about the flaws in characters that were kind of the point of many of their storylines. Toward the end of the video you made some great points about representation and what they should add in season 2 and I kind of wish that was discussed more.