Honestly tho... If they are friends, or a couple, that really doesn’t matter to me at all. They just seem so comfortable around each other and I strive to find someone I could be myself around with no fear of being judged! Whatever their relationship is, romantic, platonic or anything really... it just looks so warm and nice. Edit: I think that as a person you should be able to show your affection for someone else! Wether you’re a boy, a girl, a person... as humans we want connections and the fact that someone might be judged for wanting to show how they feel is really sad. I hope that as a society we keep changing for the better! We should accept all kinds of love!
@@Psynergic I swear skz are the biggest shippers 😂 but also your comments about Chan are spot on I think about this stuff a lot actually, I think there are a lot of really clever things like that they’ve done since the beginning.
skz have always been great supporters and ally’s of the community. like when a fan told bangchan that she met her girlfriend bc of them and it made him so happy and he got all excited. and obviously skz being at a pride parade and buying pride merchandise. and another great one is at a concert felix saw a sign in the crowd that said “bisexuals love felix” and he made a gesture like he was clutching his heart and he seemed really grateful! and hyunjin reading a book about a lesbian couple as well!
@@Kersoe That one means a lot to me. He's such a deliberate person about certain things, so it's very clear that he knows what it means and wears it on purpose.
@@apollinaria3860 the name of the book is “harmless person to you”. he showed the book when he was doing i think a v live or something and he had a bunch of his stuff laid out on a table and the book was there
the thing i love so much about their friendship is that minho is generally not very open or vocal about his affections, especially on camera, and tends to take care of the members in a silent way. but with jisung he seems to completely forget that they're being filmed; the members have said themselves that minsung are always "in their own world" and i think you can see how much more receptive minho is to jisungs affection when his guard is down and how he seems almost shy around him at times, instead of just laughing it off like he usually does with other people. i adore seeing them together and im just so happy they've both found someone to be this comfortable around
the part where jisung called minho baby over the phone was pretty much one of the first times we heard jisung call him that. ik at this point they call each other that all the time but at this point they didnt really until that vlive where ig jisung thought he wasn't on speaker so he said "jagi (baby/honey) when will you be home" and then they just kinda covered it up and now they call each other baby all the time lol
Me too actually :) Like before that jisung used to joke around calling everybody baby but then after this incident and someone asking him on his vlive why he called Lee know "jagi" (which I'm still mad about because it's non of our business) he answered that him hyunjin and lee know call each other that but thinking about it they never actually called each other "jagi" up until that point (that is on camera) and even so it's always jisung calling Lee know jagi now and then but hyunjin never refers to the both of them as jagi unless they make it pretty clear they are talking about their skz family role play other than that it's pretty much minsung calling each other jagi and they started after that one accidental time during Lee know's vlive before that they never did. It's something that made me think to be honest and quite honestly one of the few suspicious moments between them. Because sure most of their moments are cute "minsung interactions" I don't really take them seriously it's just cute and entertaining to watch but there are a few of their moments where I'm like "wait a damn minute, this is sus" and those are the times where I actually start questioning what type of relationship they might have (respectfully so of course because again it's non of our business)
Oh- fun fact: if you watch the music video for 'Mixtape: Oh' carefully you will see Changbin is looking on his phone at the picture Hyunjin took, the one where he asked Han and Lee Know to stand like a couple, and smiling fondly. It's very sweet.
At 16:11 han was actually scratching his leg pretty heavily and he was doing it for a while probably out of stress ( i don't want to assume anything) but lee know grabed his hand for him to stop. He takes care of these types of actions alot when Han does it and I think there is a video that shows that. I really love how supportive he is towards han and I think that probably why Han feels the most comfortable with him ♥️
Maybe he has like stress introduced atopic eczeme or sth? Like I have that and it can even occur if you have "happy stress" like that's really kind of annoying but you kinda learn to live it....and you can have that the whole body long (which is after hearsay literally hell and especially for babies) or just lil spots, which I lucky got but they do be changing over time. I used to have them in the back of my knees and ellbows and on legs and arms but these days I also already had them around in the ear and on the eyelid (that's kinda shit lol)....
Ngl one of my favourite moments of theirs is during one of Han's vlogs when Lee Know comes to just hang out in Han's room and asks if he wants to go to the river but Han was having a bit of an inside day and said no and Lee Know was just cool with it, didn't try to convince him or anything, just hung out a little longer. It's like the infamous first handholding clip during the survival show- Han was super nervous and shaking and so Lee Know took his hand and swung it a bit and then just held it and made Han smile and relax, and then Han did the same when Lee Know was nervous about the rap. They're both so good at spotting when the other is a bit quiet or maybe a bit down and able to make each other smile or relax with just a touch or a word. They seem to understand each other super well and have their own special dynamic going on. It's super beautiful.
I've watched your reaction to this a couple of times now, plus your other Minsung videos. Hope you will do more in the future. These two boys put a smile on my face from the beginning to the end of the video.
Something I love about their dynamic is how they often go on walks and meal dates together, even tho Jisung usually prefers to spend his free time in his room by himself. It makes me so happy when they update us about it!
I think (and I might be completely out of my line here) that we are used to seeing and expecting people who are close and comfortable with each other as a sign of romantic attraction when that's really not the most important thing. We do that all the time and sometimes we take it too far, but romantic love isn't the only type of love that matters. They call each other soulmates, they love and cherish each other and I think that that in itself is a gift, they found each other in a sea full of people and they haven't let go, so even if it isn't romantic they love each other, that's a fact and I'm soo happy for them
FYI, actually for EVERYONE'S information, everything about JYP being homophobic is total bs. Being Christian doesn't make you homophobic so let's not be promote prejudice. (I'm black and female, I understand the fear, but I will never condone prejudice in any form.) QED, Felix, Hyunjin and I.N are Confirmed Catholics. Chan and Changbin are also Christian, but we don't know what denomination. Homophobia is sick, but false accusations are almost as bad because they create fear and hatred for no reason. The entire JYP homophobia drama is all from one accusation from a guy who was specifically told (like all JYP Idols) that dating was prohibited and ignored that and got a boyfriend. Nobody's debut is guaranteed, so there's no way to know if he would have made it even without the relationship.(One of Chan's debuts was cancelled because his partner was headhunted by another company during the lead up.) The accuser wasn't allowed to debut because he broken one of only 3 rules he was given. Not because he was dating another man. I know nothing about the veracity of his other accusations about other companies. Also JYP was sat a few feet away, closely watching SKZ when Minsung were holding hands and he saw the message Minho recorded and not only said nothing, he brought Lee Know and Felix back because the love the members have for each other was more important than debuting a "perfect" group and that was a big risk for him to take. 10 mins in and I'm already on a soapbox 😉 Ps. Han didn't take time off from the family, he just couldn't do fan meets. JYP's statement said he was getting treatment and being supported by the other members.
17:53 there was a moment on one of interviews when Han was feeling nervous(?) or bad, he started scratching himself really hard and he didn't even realise that, so Lino just touched his knee to calm him down. Lino didn't even look at Han. the author of the video even said the phrase "He doesn't have to look" I can find the video and give you a link, if you want :)
I love what you said about them being accepting of shipping could make a safer space for potentially queer members in the group, I hadn’t thought about it before but it would be a really smart thing to do. As a lesbian myself I know how it feels to avoid being touchy with female friends because I’m scared that they’ll get the wrong idea (Thhinking that I’m into them romantically that is) so I can only assume a queer person in a kpop boygroup would feel something similar unless there was a foundation of love, acceptance and trust amongst them that let them be themselves freely 🥺
Same, as someone who is also part of the community, I always internally struggle with how to interact with other men. Like Felix, I always like to show others love and gratitude through special actions and vocalize my admirations... I also used to get frustrated with shipping (because of how objectifying and fetishizing it can be...) but I'm *incredibly grateful* for the reframing that this serves the members positively and protects them ❤❤❤ Even though I was never big on kpop, the second I discovered SKZ I fell in love, not only because of their sound but their authenticity, their sincerity and drive. And more than anything, how empathetic, open, affectionate and loving they are - and these qualities coexisting seamlessly with their "dark" and "edgy" personas. How open they are helps normalize affection between friends (and male friends at that!), at least for me.
i know this was nine months ago but i would love to see you react to more recent moments that they’ve had especially during the Maniac tour and the youtube lives they’ve been doing during it😁
The portion about Chan.....yessss 1 million times yessss!! Honestly I wish more people truly understood just how amazing of a Leader he is for Stray!! 💚
In my opinion: Minsung are soulmates. A soulmate doesn’t have to be labelled. It could be your parent or your best friend or your partner or anyone. And they are soulmates. Their relationship is so beautiful and I am really happy for them that they were able to find each other in this cruel industry. They really are one of a kind
Sometimes they do give off romantic vibes, especially the way they act like an old married couple. The lingering looks are certainly there often enough. But a lot of the time I get the impression that Lino is very empathetic towards Han's anxieties. I feel like Han sees Lino as a safe space and I feel like Lino is quite protective over Han which is why they're so close. I'm not saying Han can't protect himself or that he needs to be protected but I feel like Lino automatically takes on that role as any of would for someone we care about. Especially as he's older. Whether it's platonic or romantic, and it's not really our business either way, I'm glad they have each other.
2:48 YES I've been talking about this for a while know. it's vERY weird how there are people who consider themselves fans of particular group/idols that are very queer-supportive but themselves are homophobic/transphobic ect. it doesn't make sense 🤡
They remember me of Woosan from ATEEZ , this is like just beautiful to watch, genuine etc. Whatever it is… this is just beautiful to see people, especially mens just being confortable with affection. Romantic or not.
I was just watching this for the ship but at 13:20 I just started crying and I don't even know why, when you started talking about all the bang Chan thing it just felt emotional hahaha. Absolutely loved this reaction. ❤️
omg the changlix analysis by this channel is SO good, they really analyse the subtle moments which seems more genuine because it isn't for show and their minsung analyses are sooooooooo fricking amazing as well
Oh there’s a video called something roughly like “the ACTual lgbtq+ moments in K-pop” and you get to see a bunch of idols who some you might know and others you might not express support as well as discussing their own sexuality and it’s great to see that they are comfortable to share and discuss these things with fans without a huge fear of receiving lots of negativity.
I think the videos of "shipname moments" or "shipname making us feel single" are usually the videos that are just about look how cute and wholesome they are instead of are they dating or not. This is from what I have seen
Yes to all that you said at the beginning about the dislikes. Some K-Pop fans like to pronounce themselves "allies" when really they just like to project their fantasies onto the idols, especially women or girls who like to fetishize gay relationships. Being homophobic and Stay doesn't seem right to me, something's not clicking. Thanks for pointing that out. As a gay fanboy, I always wanted to express what you said xx.
yep this is a larger problem than a lot of people realize. you hear about the fetishizing BS that lesbians get from straight men all the time, but you seldom see people discuss or bring up how straight women are with gay men in such a blunt manner. Or even some queer women who don't quite realize what they're doing. Listen, I couldn't care less what gets your rocks off, but that dosen't need to involve other real people. Especially when this sentiment is strongly paralleled in the korean industry and society where male idols will do "fan service" with each other and everyone loves it, but gay marriage is still opposed by majority of the public. BL genre of drama has blown up yet, its still very frowned upon for the men doing the acting to actually be gay! people like to say its not as harmful because women aren't necessarily often as creepy about it as men are but, that dosen't hold much validity when its obviously harmful in other ways.
No one can say with 100% confidence that those 2 are NOT close. Regardless of their relationship, they love each other weather it's just as brothers or more. You can't deny they are extremely close.
Ok something I want to comment on is at 10:42 when they’re holding hands is super sweet because this was during their survival show when jyp asked Minho to rap a part in hellevator that he had never done before. Jisung grabbed his hand and helped him keep the rhythm and help him get it right.
You are ON POINT with everything you've said, I love it! Also, I really wish these 'analysis' videos wouldn't slow the footage down or point out when they're slowing footage down. It always makes it seem more 'romantic' when it's slowed down and I actually think that does a disservice to videos like this. These two do enough, they don't need their interactions to be enhanced XD
I get you... I like totally get you don't get me wrong I know that slow motions and music adds more tension to their interactions that is without a doubt. All I'm saying is that no matter how much you slow a clip down it doesn't change the facial expressions nor the body language of the individuals in those clips. And most times in normal speed we tend to miss those and thus the analysis video slow them down in order for us to catch that because that is the intention of the video. And I've watched many analysis videos not just about ships and in many cases that's what they do.
@@rethabileseaja5516 Yeah I get it and I don't think it's the biggest deal it's just a pet peeve of mine XD But hey, I'm not out here editing videos so what do I know lol
27:58 that was Hyunjin asking them to pose like a couple :> I'm glad you're watching these moments. I can't help but swoon over the general comfort SKZ provide STAYS with their own stable (at least from our pov) relationships. Whether romantic or platonic (or beyond that spectrum) they are absolutely adorable and, for example, minsung, as a pairing is simply a beautiful part of that balance. I am soft for them, I will admit that with no shame. I was also a hard, purely "oh they're so into each other" shipper, but I also feel like with time, I just grew to understand how breathtaking their bond is and allowed myself to enjoy seeing what they were comfortable sharing, instead of pushing my own fantasies on them :/ I gotta say, you have definitely become one of my favorite reactors, or as I'd prefer to call you, watch-buddies ( -im sorry- ). You are an educated, well-spoken, and queer (in the best of ways) individual who pays attention to important things, such as basic consent and privacy. You also openly discuss these topics and bring light to them. It gets my mind going, too. I am overall very thankful for your content and hope to see more minsung, and SKZ content overall. Big happy me today
I love what you said about them and about Bang Chan so much :( and I relate to that slight smile you had on your face the whole time - I'm the same whenever I see their interactions! :D
I love them! I’m a big fan of normalizing male intimacy and even if they’re only super close friends it makes me so happy! I fully agree seeing them so happy and comfortable with each other is genuinely beautiful!
Hi!! First of all I love your reactions! So about your question on how Lee Know behaves when Han's anxiety spikes there are some clips about that scattered through the compilations, in fact if I'm not mistaken that channel has a specific compilation about that. One of those clips was included in this video: Han got nervous during an interview and kept constantly scratching his leg, Minho noticed and put his hand over Han's knee to signal him to stop. He's always very protective of Han, puts himself in between Han and the press or the fans whenever they are outside and always holds him one way or another when he notices that Han's nervous. There's one video where a fan yelled Han's name in a very loud and aggressive voice and Han was a bit shocked, you can clearly see Minho react by changing his facial expression to a more serious one, holding Han's sleeve and Changing positions in a protective way. On another video, they were eating at a table while talking and Han kept bouncing his leg so Minho gestured towards his leg to make Han stop even though he was sitting a few seats away. He pats his butt and makes faces in the concerts because he knows it will help calm Jisung down, always makes sure to compliment Han during the fan meetings, even going as far as to ask the fans to tell Han he's handsome. If they are in line formation and Han stays in the corner you can bet Minho will take the spot at his side to never leave Han in the corner unprotected. I know it sounds like I'm reading too much into it but the videos are there for everyone to see, there's no denying that both Minho and Chan are very protective of the others, specially Minho when Jisung is envolved
Mr P, I haven’t even clicked yet but after another long tiring day day at work, I know I’m about to enjoy the soft “I hate it, I must keep watching, I can’t stand them, they’re so adorable”ness that you always deliver on 😂 And besides, it’s two of my favourite Kids in this big cold world you’re getting to “know”… from the comments here (why did I prolong the wait by reading first?!) I can tell you’ve again nailed a crucial teachable aspect of their dynamic. I’ve long pondered the protective circle-the-wagons type environment they’ve (every member of Skz) created together, spear-headed largely by their beautiful leader Bang Chan, I daresay, and it is so pleasing to watch the increasingly blurred lines as this group has grown (in age and popularity) so that nobody is exposed or, some days, everyone is🤣 Love love love these boys, and most of all Minsung’s unapologetic and natural adoration for each other. “I like normal” said Minho to Han in their most recent 2Kids Room and it was just so spontaneously sweet (too many similar moments captured on camera to mention!). Now to sit back and love more of your highly watchable content! Tysm for being you and sharing it here.
Ok ok.. addendum after watching: omgwdym you haven’t watched the Drive mv yet?! The one with Chan singing about driving all night “in the course” 🤨 and then he later explained in a Vlive that the lyrics weren’t written by him but by Lee Know BUT they were also mysteriously about when Chan used to drive the golf buggy around the golf course with his dad back in Australia. Uh huh…… 😂🤣🤣 he so cheeky that boi Also, yes that music! It’s better muted. I also prefer catching snippets of Minsung “in the wild” instead if compilations bc I really like to get the complete context as shown (sometimes the moments are too fleeting to be valid but other times there’s actually MORE to it than these sorts of videos give credit to’. Either way, it’s all love being created to me 🥰
Like just for passion 👍 Loving the completely rational rant, I will be looking for more after this. (After a few more Stray Kids videos, just because all their relationships are beautiful.)
Yes you did it ....u did ...the waiting period is over finally Welcome to MINSUNG land MINSUNG old two other 2kids room are gold please do react to them
Kqrhfhsn the one who asked them to stand like a couple for the picture at the end was Hyunjin. He kept trying to take pictures of all the members but Lee Know wasn't cooperating 😭
I din;t even care if its just friends being close or they are together, but you can't deny if this is all really fanservice.. then they are absolute pros at it, just the fact half the fandom really question whether its real or not proves that they are genuinely close with each other as well. But boy if it's all fanservice they need a big round of applause because they have the whole fandom convinced otherwise
You know, I was showing my mum Minsung, and she said if they know Korea isn’t the place the be lgbt+ then why do they have so many moments. I said they’re almost encouraged as a group to have these ships. But you can see what’s real and what’s an act. Idc what these two have. Whatever it is is beautiful and everyone deserves this. I’ll just say, they’ve had a lot of their scenes cut. Moments together cut short or camera moves away. It’s comments they say to fans that link minsung together for example LK was asked what you should do if you love someone and LK being LK said buy them meat, which is exactly what LK said he did for Han. These boys make me believe in love. That’s it
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Changbin is the president of the Minsung club.
At 27:59, that was Hyunjin telling them that because he was trying to take a photo of everyone
Psynergic let's be honest here. Didn't we feel we all are 3rd wheeling them... >🦋🏃
Honestly tho... If they are friends, or a couple, that really doesn’t matter to me at all. They just seem so comfortable around each other and I strive to find someone I could be myself around with no fear of being judged! Whatever their relationship is, romantic, platonic or anything really... it just looks so warm and nice.
Edit: I think that as a person you should be able to show your affection for someone else! Wether you’re a boy, a girl, a person... as humans we want connections and the fact that someone might be judged for wanting to show how they feel is really sad. I hope that as a society we keep changing for the better! We should accept all kinds of love!
Agreed!
true
100% yesssirrr
PREACH
YES AGREED 👍🏻
LOVE IS LOVE ❤❤❤🌈🌈🌈🤟🤟🤟
"did somebody actually ask them that? don't force stuff"
Hyunjin: 👁👄👁
😂😂
@@Psynergic I swear skz are the biggest shippers 😂 but also your comments about Chan are spot on I think about this stuff a lot actually, I think there are a lot of really clever things like that they’ve done since the beginning.
skz have always been great supporters and ally’s of the community. like when a fan told bangchan that she met her girlfriend bc of them and it made him so happy and he got all excited. and obviously skz being at a pride parade and buying pride merchandise. and another great one is at a concert felix saw a sign in the crowd that said “bisexuals love felix” and he made a gesture like he was clutching his heart and he seemed really grateful! and hyunjin reading a book about a lesbian couple as well!
do you know which concert felix did that?
@@aliciapark6241 i don’t remember which concert, i’m sorry!
May i add Lee Know wearing the safety pin?
@@Kersoe That one means a lot to me. He's such a deliberate person about certain things, so it's very clear that he knows what it means and wears it on purpose.
@@apollinaria3860 the name of the book is “harmless person to you”. he showed the book when he was doing i think a v live or something and he had a bunch of his stuff laid out on a table and the book was there
Everyone who just focused on the dog in the backgrpung the whole time:
i agree with everything you said, you have such a good perspective on all of this!
the thing i love so much about their friendship is that minho is generally not very open or vocal about his affections, especially on camera, and tends to take care of the members in a silent way. but with jisung he seems to completely forget that they're being filmed; the members have said themselves that minsung are always "in their own world" and i think you can see how much more receptive minho is to jisungs affection when his guard is down and how he seems almost shy around him at times, instead of just laughing it off like he usually does with other people. i adore seeing them together and im just so happy they've both found someone to be this comfortable around
26:39 😂my type of humor haha only that free around my sister, she knows me the best and I feel most at ease being myself around her. Lol.
I really loved you reaction, I wanna live here forever hahaha
the part where jisung called minho baby over the phone was pretty much one of the first times we heard jisung call him that. ik at this point they call each other that all the time but at this point they didnt really until that vlive where ig jisung thought he wasn't on speaker so he said "jagi (baby/honey) when will you be home" and then they just kinda covered it up and now they call each other baby all the time lol
Me too actually :)
Like before that jisung used to joke around calling everybody baby but then after this incident and someone asking him on his vlive why he called Lee know "jagi" (which I'm still mad about because it's non of our business) he answered that him hyunjin and lee know call each other that but thinking about it they never actually called each other "jagi" up until that point (that is on camera) and even so it's always jisung calling Lee know jagi now and then but hyunjin never refers to the both of them as jagi unless they make it pretty clear they are talking about their skz family role play other than that it's pretty much minsung calling each other jagi and they started after that one accidental time during Lee know's vlive before that they never did.
It's something that made me think to be honest and quite honestly one of the few suspicious moments between them. Because sure most of their moments are cute "minsung interactions" I don't really take them seriously it's just cute and entertaining to watch but there are a few of their moments where I'm like "wait a damn minute, this is sus" and those are the times where I actually start questioning what type of relationship they might have (respectfully so of course because again it's non of our business)
I'm watching you at first time, but I already love you and your channel. too comfortable here🙏🏻🙏🏻
Oh- fun fact: if you watch the music video for 'Mixtape: Oh' carefully you will see Changbin is looking on his phone at the picture Hyunjin took, the one where he asked Han and Lee Know to stand like a couple, and smiling fondly. It's very sweet.
At 16:11 han was actually scratching his leg pretty heavily and he was doing it for a while probably out of stress ( i don't want to assume anything) but lee know grabed his hand for him to stop. He takes care of these types of actions alot when Han does it and I think there is a video that shows that.
I really love how supportive he is towards han and I think that probably why Han feels the most comfortable with him ♥️
That's actually very interesting that Han does that🤔
And super sweet of Lee Know💙
Maybe he has like stress introduced atopic eczeme or sth? Like I have that and it can even occur if you have "happy stress" like that's really kind of annoying but you kinda learn to live it....and you can have that the whole body long (which is after hearsay literally hell and especially for babies) or just lil spots, which I lucky got but they do be changing over time.
I used to have them in the back of my knees and ellbows and on legs and arms but these days I also already had them around in the ear and on the eyelid (that's kinda shit lol)....
Ngl one of my favourite moments of theirs is during one of Han's vlogs when Lee Know comes to just hang out in Han's room and asks if he wants to go to the river but Han was having a bit of an inside day and said no and Lee Know was just cool with it, didn't try to convince him or anything, just hung out a little longer. It's like the infamous first handholding clip during the survival show- Han was super nervous and shaking and so Lee Know took his hand and swung it a bit and then just held it and made Han smile and relax, and then Han did the same when Lee Know was nervous about the rap. They're both so good at spotting when the other is a bit quiet or maybe a bit down and able to make each other smile or relax with just a touch or a word. They seem to understand each other super well and have their own special dynamic going on. It's super beautiful.
he does it with jisung's leg shaking too which i think is just so considerate because most ppl don't even realize they're doing it!
@@Psynergic han has social anxiety
omggg you reacted to Yonbokis Saussage, is the best youtube channel for minsung content and analysis, keep streaming her videos, are the best!!1
THIS IS THE THING WE WERE WAITING FOR
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u shouls react to some more minsung
HE WHOO YOU AREEEEEEEE YASSSSSS SLAYGGGGYYYYYYY
"Checkout skz exposing minsung especially changbin" it's hilarious
Okay but can I point out at 10:26 your eyebrow raises matched perfectly with piano???
oh you'll love Xdinary Heroes' dynamic
I've watched your reaction to this a couple of times now, plus your other Minsung videos. Hope you will do more in the future. These two boys put a smile on my face from the beginning to the end of the video.
You put it perfectly.
22:29 yes, that was a two kid's room. Han responded "how am I supposed to like you?" and Leeknow just said "I dont know"
Something I love about their dynamic is how they often go on walks and meal dates together, even tho Jisung usually prefers to spend his free time in his room by himself. It makes me so happy when they update us about it!
"They're too adorable and i hate it. I wanna watch more. I'm gonna watch more 😏" YEAH THAT'S HOW IT STARTED 😂
🤣😂🙈🙋🏼♀️
Me watching it with you and still feels like I'm thirdwheeling, in fact: WE WERE THIRDWHEELING MINSUNG. 😂
yes they're beautiful 😭🌹
thank u for you cute reaction and the gentle music❤
I would love for you tonlisten to and watch the live performance of taste
Eyes speaks more than words 💜
Whatever they have, it's a beautiful bond. It's none of our business, it's for them and them alone ❤️
If this is platonic I wish I had this kind of security. 🥹
I’m writing on bubble with lee know and he mentions jisung so many times it’s so cute🥺
I'm happy these baby stays are educated right :D
This is probably the fastest I’ve clicked in a video!
Same lmfaooo 😭😭
@@raiyap.2150 saw the notification and was “GOTTA GOOO”
Hahaha 💙
@@Psynergic OMG HIIII
@@BeatrizViana13 lol heeeey 👋🏼😊
I think (and I might be completely out of my line here) that we are used to seeing and expecting people who are close and comfortable with each other as a sign of romantic attraction when that's really not the most important thing. We do that all the time and sometimes we take it too far, but romantic love isn't the only type of love that matters. They call each other soulmates, they love and cherish each other and I think that that in itself is a gift, they found each other in a sea full of people and they haven't let go, so even if it isn't romantic they love each other, that's a fact and I'm soo happy for them
This! Perfectly said
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I just like how they have the most whipped faces ever. Like "I would die for you in an instant"
just left a like for that
FYI, actually for EVERYONE'S information, everything about JYP being homophobic is total bs. Being Christian doesn't make you homophobic so let's not be promote prejudice. (I'm black and female, I understand the fear, but I will never condone prejudice in any form.) QED, Felix, Hyunjin and I.N are Confirmed Catholics. Chan and Changbin are also Christian, but we don't know what denomination.
Homophobia is sick, but false accusations are almost as bad because they create fear and hatred for no reason.
The entire JYP homophobia drama is all from one accusation from a guy who was specifically told (like all JYP Idols) that dating was prohibited and ignored that and got a boyfriend. Nobody's debut is guaranteed, so there's no way to know if he would have made it even without the relationship.(One of Chan's debuts was cancelled because his partner was headhunted by another company during the lead up.) The accuser wasn't allowed to debut because he broken one of only 3 rules he was given. Not because he was dating another man. I know nothing about the veracity of his other accusations about other companies.
Also JYP was sat a few feet away, closely watching SKZ when Minsung were holding hands and he saw the message Minho recorded and not only said nothing, he brought Lee Know and Felix back because the love the members have for each other was more important than debuting a "perfect" group and that was a big risk for him to take.
10 mins in and I'm already on a soapbox 😉
Ps. Han didn't take time off from the family, he just couldn't do fan meets. JYP's statement said he was getting treatment and being supported by the other members.
the "stand like a couple" thing was hyunjin trying to take pictures of them lol
OMG FINALLY MINSUNG! i don't care about whatever they have going on i just want what they have 😭
we all do 😍😍
17:53 there was a moment on one of interviews when Han was feeling nervous(?) or bad, he started scratching himself really hard and he didn't even realise that, so Lino just touched his knee to calm him down. Lino didn't even look at Han. the author of the video even said the phrase "He doesn't have to look"
I can find the video and give you a link, if you want :)
I love what you said about them being accepting of shipping could make a safer space for potentially queer members in the group, I hadn’t thought about it before but it would be a really smart thing to do. As a lesbian myself I know how it feels to avoid being touchy with female friends because I’m scared that they’ll get the wrong idea (Thhinking that I’m into them romantically that is) so I can only assume a queer person in a kpop boygroup would feel something similar unless there was a foundation of love, acceptance and trust amongst them that let them be themselves freely 🥺
Same, as someone who is also part of the community, I always internally struggle with how to interact with other men. Like Felix, I always like to show others love and gratitude through special actions and vocalize my admirations... I also used to get frustrated with shipping (because of how objectifying and fetishizing it can be...) but I'm *incredibly grateful* for the reframing that this serves the members positively and protects them ❤❤❤
Even though I was never big on kpop, the second I discovered SKZ I fell in love, not only because of their sound but their authenticity, their sincerity and drive. And more than anything, how empathetic, open, affectionate and loving they are - and these qualities coexisting seamlessly with their "dark" and "edgy" personas.
How open they are helps normalize affection between friends (and male friends at that!), at least for me.
I haven't even finish the video yet, but watch me crying over what you said about Bang Chan around 13:25 :((( You are so right.
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Oh Lord I've been dragging juts to watch this I.LOVE.IT
i know this was nine months ago but i would love to see you react to more recent moments that they’ve had especially during the Maniac tour and the youtube lives they’ve been doing during it😁
The portion about Chan.....yessss 1 million times yessss!! Honestly I wish more people truly understood just how amazing of a Leader he is for Stray!! 💚
Coincidentally, I've just finished all the videos from Yongbokis Sausage channel yesterday XDD
In my opinion: Minsung are soulmates. A soulmate doesn’t have to be labelled. It could be your parent or your best friend or your partner or anyone. And they are soulmates. Their relationship is so beautiful and I am really happy for them that they were able to find each other in this cruel industry. They really are one of a kind
I am not LGBTQ but I totally support you guys!
Sometimes they do give off romantic vibes, especially the way they act like an old married couple. The lingering looks are certainly there often enough. But a lot of the time I get the impression that Lino is very empathetic towards Han's anxieties. I feel like Han sees Lino as a safe space and I feel like Lino is quite protective over Han which is why they're so close. I'm not saying Han can't protect himself or that he needs to be protected but I feel like Lino automatically takes on that role as any of would for someone we care about. Especially as he's older. Whether it's platonic or romantic, and it's not really our business either way, I'm glad they have each other.
2:48 YES I've been talking about this for a while know. it's vERY weird how there are people who consider themselves fans of particular group/idols that are very queer-supportive but themselves are homophobic/transphobic ect. it doesn't make sense 🤡
They remember me of Woosan from ATEEZ , this is like just beautiful to watch, genuine etc. Whatever it is… this is just beautiful to see people, especially mens just being confortable with affection. Romantic or not.
You throughout the vid is just like that “i know what you are” dog meme 😂😂😂
I was just watching this for the ship but at 13:20 I just started crying and I don't even know why, when you started talking about all the bang Chan thing it just felt emotional hahaha.
Absolutely loved this reaction. ❤️
omg the changlix analysis by this channel is SO good, they really analyse the subtle moments which seems more genuine because it isn't for show and their minsung analyses are sooooooooo fricking amazing as well
th-cam.com/video/ZUfU2iac1ak/w-d-xo.html like i really recommend this one for changlix if you ever want to check it out
and by for show i mean fan service
OH MY GOD I AM SUMMONED
at the end it was hyunjin asking them to stand like a couple lmfao
Oh there’s a video called something roughly like “the ACTual lgbtq+ moments in K-pop” and you get to see a bunch of idols who some you might know and others you might not express support as well as discussing their own sexuality and it’s great to see that they are comfortable to share and discuss these things with fans without a huge fear of receiving lots of negativity.
I think the videos of "shipname moments" or "shipname making us feel single" are usually the videos that are just about look how cute and wholesome they are instead of are they dating or not. This is from what I have seen
Yes to all that you said at the beginning about the dislikes. Some K-Pop fans like to pronounce themselves "allies" when really they just like to project their fantasies onto the idols, especially women or girls who like to fetishize gay relationships. Being homophobic and Stay doesn't seem right to me, something's not clicking. Thanks for pointing that out. As a gay fanboy, I always wanted to express what you said xx.
yep this is a larger problem than a lot of people realize. you hear about the fetishizing BS that lesbians get from straight men all the time, but you seldom see people discuss or bring up how straight women are with gay men in such a blunt manner. Or even some queer women who don't quite realize what they're doing. Listen, I couldn't care less what gets your rocks off, but that dosen't need to involve other real people. Especially when this sentiment is strongly paralleled in the korean industry and society where male idols will do "fan service" with each other and everyone loves it, but gay marriage is still opposed by majority of the public. BL genre of drama has blown up yet, its still very frowned upon for the men doing the acting to actually be gay! people like to say its not as harmful because women aren't necessarily often as creepy about it as men are but, that dosen't hold much validity when its obviously harmful in other ways.
Almost 30min of Minsung reaction?!! I'M TOTALLY HERE FOR IT 24/7 🛐💖
No one can say with 100% confidence that those 2 are NOT close. Regardless of their relationship, they love each other weather it's just as brothers or more. You can't deny they are extremely close.
8:30 just want to say i kinda know that feeling 😅 that maybe is a one side love on your friend that have the same😅 like girl girl or boy boy love 💕🌈
YOUR GIRL HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THEY’RE ICONIC
Ok something I want to comment on is at 10:42 when they’re holding hands is super sweet because this was during their survival show when jyp asked Minho to rap a part in hellevator that he had never done before. Jisung grabbed his hand and helped him keep the rhythm and help him get it right.
don't worry, the "please stand like you are a couple" was from hyunjin 😂 the members ship each other too haha
Yes) I was waiting for this for sooo long) thanks for the reaction)
Definitely my pleasure! 💙
You are ON POINT with everything you've said, I love it! Also, I really wish these 'analysis' videos wouldn't slow the footage down or point out when they're slowing footage down. It always makes it seem more 'romantic' when it's slowed down and I actually think that does a disservice to videos like this. These two do enough, they don't need their interactions to be enhanced XD
I get you... I like totally get you don't get me wrong I know that slow motions and music adds more tension to their interactions that is without a doubt.
All I'm saying is that no matter how much you slow a clip down it doesn't change the facial expressions nor the body language of the individuals in those clips. And most times in normal speed we tend to miss those and thus the analysis video slow them down in order for us to catch that because that is the intention of the video.
And I've watched many analysis videos not just about ships and in many cases that's what they do.
@@rethabileseaja5516 Yeah I get it and I don't think it's the biggest deal it's just a pet peeve of mine XD But hey, I'm not out here editing videos so what do I know lol
still waiting for the Drive reaction hahah
Been waiting for this reaction for a long time and it's here ❤️❤️❤️❤️ MINSUNG Supremacy.
27:58 that was Hyunjin asking them to pose like a couple :> I'm glad you're watching these moments. I can't help but swoon over the general comfort SKZ provide STAYS with their own stable (at least from our pov) relationships. Whether romantic or platonic (or beyond that spectrum) they are absolutely adorable and, for example, minsung, as a pairing is simply a beautiful part of that balance. I am soft for them, I will admit that with no shame. I was also a hard, purely "oh they're so into each other" shipper, but I also feel like with time, I just grew to understand how breathtaking their bond is and allowed myself to enjoy seeing what they were comfortable sharing, instead of pushing my own fantasies on them :/ I gotta say, you have definitely become one of my favorite reactors, or as I'd prefer to call you, watch-buddies ( -im sorry- ). You are an educated, well-spoken, and queer (in the best of ways) individual who pays attention to important things, such as basic consent and privacy. You also openly discuss these topics and bring light to them. It gets my mind going, too. I am overall very thankful for your content and hope to see more minsung, and SKZ content overall. Big happy me today
Watch-buddies! YES!!! I love that 😍
such a healthy, beautiful relationship!
I love what you said about them and about Bang Chan so much :( and I relate to that slight smile you had on your face the whole time - I'm the same whenever I see their interactions! :D
What's interesting about Minsung is that Leeknow only looks at Han like that. Leeknow is a bit savage to the other members. 🤣🤣😂
Exactly. He allows Felix to touch him but touch for the others is rare and spare. He has a clear preference for Han in every way
Minsung was so "hot" & cute that your coffe got cold...lol =)
^ THIS
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The "no clue" to "gets it" was hilarious. Me sitting here going "aaaah, he doesn't get the reference, naaauuurrrr" and then boom, gets it.
Me giving a like beforehand cause haters gonna hate so love should be stronger 👀💚
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@22.34 yes that’s a two kids room u have to watch!!
i love you :*
As a minsung stan i clicked so fast
I love them! I’m a big fan of normalizing male intimacy and even if they’re only super close friends it makes me so happy! I fully agree seeing them so happy and comfortable with each other is genuinely beautiful!
Hi!! First of all I love your reactions! So about your question on how Lee Know behaves when Han's anxiety spikes there are some clips about that scattered through the compilations, in fact if I'm not mistaken that channel has a specific compilation about that. One of those clips was included in this video: Han got nervous during an interview and kept constantly scratching his leg, Minho noticed and put his hand over Han's knee to signal him to stop. He's always very protective of Han, puts himself in between Han and the press or the fans whenever they are outside and always holds him one way or another when he notices that Han's nervous. There's one video where a fan yelled Han's name in a very loud and aggressive voice and Han was a bit shocked, you can clearly see Minho react by changing his facial expression to a more serious one, holding Han's sleeve and Changing positions in a protective way. On another video, they were eating at a table while talking and Han kept bouncing his leg so Minho gestured towards his leg to make Han stop even though he was sitting a few seats away. He pats his butt and makes faces in the concerts because he knows it will help calm Jisung down, always makes sure to compliment Han during the fan meetings, even going as far as to ask the fans to tell Han he's handsome. If they are in line formation and Han stays in the corner you can bet Minho will take the spot at his side to never leave Han in the corner unprotected. I know it sounds like I'm reading too much into it but the videos are there for everyone to see, there's no denying that both Minho and Chan are very protective of the others, specially Minho when Jisung is envolved
Yongbokis sausage is so classic istg
At the ending, that was Hyunjin telling them to pose like a couple hah. Not staff or anything. He was taking photos of them.
Mr P, I haven’t even clicked yet but after another long tiring day day at work, I know I’m about to enjoy the soft “I hate it, I must keep watching, I can’t stand them, they’re so adorable”ness that you always deliver on 😂 And besides, it’s two of my favourite Kids in this big cold world you’re getting to “know”… from the comments here (why did I prolong the wait by reading first?!) I can tell you’ve again nailed a crucial teachable aspect of their dynamic.
I’ve long pondered the protective circle-the-wagons type environment they’ve (every member of Skz) created together, spear-headed largely by their beautiful leader Bang Chan, I daresay, and it is so pleasing to watch the increasingly blurred lines as this group has grown (in age and popularity) so that nobody is exposed or, some days, everyone is🤣 Love love love these boys, and most of all Minsung’s unapologetic and natural adoration for each other. “I like normal” said Minho to Han in their most recent 2Kids Room and it was just so spontaneously sweet (too many similar moments captured on camera to mention!).
Now to sit back and love more of your highly watchable content! Tysm for being you and sharing it here.
Ok ok.. addendum after watching: omgwdym you haven’t watched the Drive mv yet?! The one with Chan singing about driving all night “in the course” 🤨 and then he later explained in a Vlive that the lyrics weren’t written by him but by Lee Know BUT they were also mysteriously about when Chan used to drive the golf buggy around the golf course with his dad back in Australia. Uh huh…… 😂🤣🤣 he so cheeky that boi
Also, yes that music! It’s better muted. I also prefer catching snippets of Minsung “in the wild” instead if compilations bc I really like to get the complete context as shown (sometimes the moments are too fleeting to be valid but other times there’s actually MORE to it than these sorts of videos give credit to’. Either way, it’s all love being created to me 🥰
Like just for passion 👍
Loving the completely rational rant, I will be looking for more after this. (After a few more Stray Kids videos, just because all their relationships are beautiful.)
Yes you did it ....u did ...the waiting period is over finally
Welcome to MINSUNG land
MINSUNG old two other 2kids room are gold please do react to them
Kqrhfhsn the one who asked them to stand like a couple for the picture at the end was Hyunjin. He kept trying to take pictures of all the members but Lee Know wasn't cooperating 😭
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The one asking Minsung to stand together like a couple/wedding photo was Hyunjin wanting a picture
I din;t even care if its just friends being close or they are together, but you can't deny if this is all really fanservice.. then they are absolute pros at it, just the fact half the fandom really question whether its real or not proves that they are genuinely close with each other as well. But boy if it's all fanservice they need a big round of applause because they have the whole fandom convinced otherwise
14:03 he is not sniffing he is kissing 💀
22:34 yes that’s a two kids room u have to watch!!
Definitely will at some point! 😊
@@Psynergic i cant wait!! its very cute youre gonna love it
A minsung a day, keeps my worries away :'>
Love the first 3 min talk! (the rest also ofc ;) )
idk if you already know but the person who asked minsung to stand like a couple is actually Hyunjin 😂
So cute together ,i Love.
You know, I was showing my mum Minsung, and she said if they know Korea isn’t the place the be lgbt+ then why do they have so many moments. I said they’re almost encouraged as a group to have these ships. But you can see what’s real and what’s an act. Idc what these two have. Whatever it is is beautiful and everyone deserves this. I’ll just say, they’ve had a lot of their scenes cut. Moments together cut short or camera moves away. It’s comments they say to fans that link minsung together for example LK was asked what you should do if you love someone and LK being LK said buy them meat, which is exactly what LK said he did for Han. These boys make me believe in love. That’s it