J.Haydn : 10 complete Keyboard Sonatas : Wim Winters, Clavichord

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  • @HaritheRenaissanceMan
    @HaritheRenaissanceMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dear Wim, I've never been a big fan of Haydn's keyboard sonatas - until NOW. Hearing his sonatas on a clavichord are a revelation to my ears, a EUREKA moment. As another commentator so eloquently stated, most of Haydn's sonatas sound rather thin on a modern piano. They'd sound better on a fortepiano, and are passable on a harpsichord (although a lot of the expressiveness and nuances are lost). But on a well-regulated clavichord, played sensitively, these sonatas come to life in a way that I've never appreciated until now. As an Early Music buff, I've always known that much of C.P.E. Bach's music is expressly written for the clavichord, but hearing other composers' music from the era on the instrument makes me appreciate just how influential and important the clavichord really was.
    During this time of the pandemic, when there is so much anger, sadness and fear in the air (literally and figuratively), these sonatas are giving me such peace of mind, calming my sympathetic nervous system and regulating my mood (I'm a naturally introspective person, and gravitate more to solo instrumental works in general).
    Thank you Wim, and warm greetings from across the globe in Honolulu, Hawaii.
    Aloha!
    Hari Bayani

  • @mariusvanhandel2876
    @mariusvanhandel2876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I do not understand how anyone has had time to hear all 10 sonatas. I found so much in the first sonata that I had to play it over many times to absorb how it is done. The rhetorical, emotional, and touching interpretation is so moving that I have not yet been able to let go long enough to go on to the second sonata.

  • @irodama
    @irodama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how delightful to be able to hear the sound of haydn on clavichord ... i never knew his sonatas could sound so wonderful. the ornaments sound especially delicious on it. i wish i could own this instrument, but i think i never will. maybe in my dream.

  • @Granoxe
    @Granoxe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Listening to this quiets my inner voice. I am a constant thinker and anxious during the majority of the day. Thank you for sharing and bringing me peace (:

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great to know this music was helpful to you!

  • @handavid6421
    @handavid6421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Those thick bass notes, so well supported and suited with the instrument. Haydn sonatas are so mouth-watering ...

    • @PabloMelendez1969
      @PabloMelendez1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has a couple in this channel on clavichord and in whole beat. Super rare treat!

  • @scottrowe1000
    @scottrowe1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a jazz pianist I totally appreciate your more "looser" and improvisatory approach to this music, especially the Clementi Sonantinas. Pianists in the 18th and early 19th centuries seem to have more in common with Oscar Peterson or Chick Corea than with Horowitz or Lang Lang. The musicality and expressiveness of your interpretations bring new life to this music which due to the over "academisation" and over emphasis on speed and virtuosity, seems to be fading as a common coin to be held by the music loving public. In the early 80s, while studying under the concert pianist Mario Feninger I had the good fortune to attend a couple of lectures/master classes conducted by Sol Babitz, a musicologist who specialized in 18th century performance practices. It was a relevation to say the least-and I find your performances and ideas to be no less enlightening and exciting. Please keep up the good work. With out the work of people like you, classical music will be lost forever.

  • @jurgenkarmeinsky1834
    @jurgenkarmeinsky1834 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a famous picture showing Haydn sitting at the piano, composing. The piano shown is not a Steinway, it is not a fortepiano, it is indeed a clavichord !

  • @martinmoller5591
    @martinmoller5591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is a very precious gift!! This music is truly "klassisch" and may be the most balanced musi ever composed.

  • @michaelkorthaus4970
    @michaelkorthaus4970 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wonderful music and played wonderfully on that wonderful clavichord! Haydn is often so much understimated that it almost hurts...

  • @gustavodelagnolo7062
    @gustavodelagnolo7062 ปีที่แล้ว

    My musical experience is divided as before and after this wonderful Channel. All of the principal pieces of keyboard claim for a reanalyze. For me is such the discovery of Pompeii.

  • @antoniavignera2339
    @antoniavignera2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Formidabile esecuzione,per puro caso mi sono imbattuta in questa preziosissima registrazione è un prezioso gioiello.I miei sentiti complimenti .🙏🌷🌷🍀🍀

  • @lockjiang
    @lockjiang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gosh, this is a world first, right?no youtubers have tried this before. all sonatas by Haydn!!!

  • @michaelnancyamsden7410
    @michaelnancyamsden7410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Revisit. It helps get me going and take away knee pain.

  • @ytzhou7376
    @ytzhou7376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Das Klavichord klingt sehr elegant! Es eignet sich für Musik zur Zeit Haydns.

  • @miguelangelgarciacanamero2225
    @miguelangelgarciacanamero2225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Awesome! Fantastic! beauty in its purest form ... a rare gift in this our present world. This is the best interpretation of Haydn I've heard in years: simply congratulations! Grateful Tempi, a beautiful sense for phrasing and singing, a master lesson on the use of expression and aesthetics of the eighteenth century. Those adagio, andante, slow movements so reflective, so dreamy ... also sometimes full of the painful resignation and despair of the Stürm und Drang, are revealed to us in this recording as pure gold.
    Again, I can only say sincerely: thanks and congratulations

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for the nice words, Miguel...!

  • @TerrierBram
    @TerrierBram 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I discovered this channel recently. It came about because I discovered something about the CIA project MK Ultra. Listen to classical and Baroque music for decades now, and also popmusic. But since I learned that many of those pop artists are connected to the pitch black side of life, I ditched it all, at all. It is now only music that feeds the soul with joy, like this.
    J.S. Bach is what I mainly listen. BWV 292, conducted by Gardiner for example is quite out of this world, very good.
    And I like it when people play the music on the instrument that was meant by the composer. Bach on modern piano sounds weird to me. That's why I like conductors like Gardiner. He tries hard to make it sound as supposed to be. And that's what I like about this channel too, original sound. Very nice.

  • @BaarnVictor
    @BaarnVictor ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat eerste stuk is zó onbeschrijfelijk mooi… Diepe buiging. Dat werk opgezocht in de Haydn editie die ik heb (Ursula Dutcschler). Beluisterd maar minder mooi want het wordt daar op een fortepiano een stuk sneller gespeeld. Wat een wereld van verschil maakt dat. Deze TH-cam opname is zo veel spannender en dieper!

  • @achaley4186
    @achaley4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful playing. 🙏🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😊❤️

  • @horationelson57
    @horationelson57 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Wim, once again, in my short subscription time here on your channel, you have provided another gem of a recording. Thank you and i wish you well here on TH-cam. Cheers!

  • @Garrett_Rowland
    @Garrett_Rowland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    At your tempos, the melody actually feels like it's singing, or speaking. The modern, bombastic tempos people play on the piano just sound like a flurry of notes. Like a whole sentence being smushed into a single unit. So much is lost.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Garret

    • @pietrolandri6081
      @pietrolandri6081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree. His interpretation is outstanding and stands out because of all the little and great effects he carves out from the slow tempos as well as his absolute crystalline way to distill all notes in the fast tempos and not the least because of perfect balance between the two hands

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the same issue with overly rushed renditions on piano of Bach, the BWV800 series in particular.
      I think it's instrument related... that the piano sound, attack and long sustain makes it inviting to play rushed (sorry for the lack of terms; I'm not a musician myself).

  • @RogueNinjaCreative
    @RogueNinjaCreative 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very beautifully played

  • @jcasablancaj
    @jcasablancaj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s fascinating to me how I keep coming back to watch some of your videos and thoughts on music when I mostly just listen to Scriabin and Roslavets as of late. The playing here works particularly well with Haydn, as it really accentuates the sense of balance and structure in the music. Thank you for putting out such great content!

  • @patrickl.2303
    @patrickl.2303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I applaud you for all of the time and effort you took to play these sonatas. I enjoyed them. Thank you as always.

  • @jeremyrosen6492
    @jeremyrosen6492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marvellous, Mr. winters, and abundantly appreciated as always!!! I have a request in future recordings... more Haydn, of course, and more J. S. Bach too, but, please: CLEMENTI SONATAS ------- IN ABUNDANCE!!!!!!! and: SCARLATTI SONATAS ------- IN ABUNDANCE!!!!!!!!! Thank you.

  • @johnhaines6768
    @johnhaines6768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just splendid: Elegant and soul touching! Thank you so very much!!

  • @wilsonbecker1881
    @wilsonbecker1881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you wim!!

  • @michaelnancyamsden7410
    @michaelnancyamsden7410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is peaceful and melodic. The notes are distinct,clear, melodic. Not a hurried flurry of furry or angst We average middling piano affectionados are not so put off by unrealistic goal. The mm marks discourage me so some times. I have thought this court music would needs be calm, pleasant perhaps sleep inducing along with calm. Thank you.

  • @reflechant
    @reflechant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy J.Haydn and J.S.Bach birthday!

  • @hudsonhovil1621
    @hudsonhovil1621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait for the f minor variations! I learnt that recently but have never heard/played it on a clavichord

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Hudson, they are waiting to be recorded in fact!

    • @hudsonhovil1621
      @hudsonhovil1621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AuthenticSound I can't wait!

  • @IrinaNenartovich
    @IrinaNenartovich 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    much better than Glen Guld. You communicate with the soul of composer.

  • @vinyl.croatia
    @vinyl.croatia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen many performances on 4th sonata (F-major) and I think yours is the best.

  • @uldymuldy
    @uldymuldy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. Incredible beauty. short and very touching! Thanks!

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:11:30 Wim I am learning this piece for my grade 9 RCM exam. Finally I have a legitimate performance to replace the only harpsichord one I could find (by Gerard van Reenen). Isn’t that secondary theme just incredible?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      great to read!

    • @EdiDrums
      @EdiDrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope the exam went well for you, and that you enjoyed it. Another harpsichord recording of Hoboken XVI:34 is by Ton Koopman (1981) th-cam.com/video/t1qGOv2q2LM/w-d-xo.html

  • @momoalnajjar
    @momoalnajjar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful! I can't imagine how much work it would take to record all of these wonderful pieces of music!

  • @gglucs1799
    @gglucs1799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great performance! Greetings from Brazil

  • @stephano.816
    @stephano.816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always liked the g minor so much, so "northern" in style, "Berliner Klassik" (term coined by Henzel). Would love to hear some Graun, Schaffrath...

  • @pycnanthemum
    @pycnanthemum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent most of 2017 intensively listening to keyboard music by JS Bach (much of it played by you!) -- then I diverged and began a sub-obsession with WF Bach's works, played by Robert Hill, Claudio Astronio, and Julia Hill. Listening to your renditions of Haydn's sonatas I'm struck with their similarity to WF Bach's sonatas. I think your instrument and playing approach would work well for WF Bach's polonaises and fantasias --(hint, hint)....

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Larry, thank you so much for the nice words, great to read! W.F.Bach... yes! Polonaises...!! I see that more as a project on its own that needs a bit of 'quality'-time, but that is coming, once. Haydn, he told more than once how obliged he was to CPEBach. WFB probably was a little less known, I guess, however that might not be the case for Haydn

    • @pycnanthemum
      @pycnanthemum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should add that your recordings of Haydn's sonatas have pleased me greatly as I've listened to them, off and on, for the past few days. Your usage of dynamics suits the material so well. After a period of immersion in JS Bach's music, Haydn's and Clementi's music is less demanding of total attention, and therefore relaxing. Not to say that their music is "background music", just not so complex and intense as JS Bach's music.

  • @robintranter8260
    @robintranter8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haydn Sonatas deserve to be better known and more often played. Thank you for the upload.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, this just might push me over the edge. I'm an instrumentmaker in Vienna who has always wanted to build a clavichord. I don't really have any excuse any more not to do so.
    Groeten uit Wenen, Scott

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to read! Vienna is high on my to-visit list...!

    • @christopherstube9473
      @christopherstube9473 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott Wallace, there is a facebook discussion group about clavichord making.

  • @jackhousman6637
    @jackhousman6637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The wife just wandered into the room, looked at the screen, and said, "My favorite. Wim."

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well, that's a hell of a compliment! Give her a kiss from me for that :)

  • @luuktorn
    @luuktorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so beautiful! Thank you a lot!

  • @kostasaxillios3003
    @kostasaxillios3003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I listen to this, my mind has the chance to see different details, different textures, different aspects. And I feel this enriches the musical experience. Go slow, so as to keep discovering hidden beauties...!

  • @davidroseman3287
    @davidroseman3287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @michaelnancyamsden7410
    @michaelnancyamsden7410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back again for focus and peace. I am packing to fly to Amsterdam on Fri.4/15 for trip on a River life ship. I am going to the every 10years flower exhibit. Will I be near you? I'd like to take you to dinner if possible. Or visit an organ to listen and be taught a little. I am only 4/5 grade pianist. There is a piano on the river boat. I hope I may practice. There is a recital on May 7 I think. Working on an invention and a prelude. We are allowed to use the score. It is a little music school with mostly children for students. Last year I played the C major prelude from WTC. Teacher said there were positive comments yet I am fearful.

  • @harrisnaturist
    @harrisnaturist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm listening to these again after several months and enjoying then even more than the first time. I don't care for Haydn played on the modern piano at the insane show of today, but played with your sensitivity on the clavichord they truly sing.

  • @fredhoupt4078
    @fredhoupt4078 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very beautiful recordings and performances. My love of Pappa Haydn's piano works keeps on deepening. So much to love. One can also trace the influence he had on the young Beethoven.

  • @VladVlad-ul1io
    @VladVlad-ul1io 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I very much enjoy the background with the cadles. Looks quite nice :)

  • @renaldtremblay8333
    @renaldtremblay8333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnifiquement réussi! Comme Haydn paraît plus vrai joué sur cet instrument. Bravo.

  • @ewhyte8059
    @ewhyte8059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t help myself but are there more than passing similarities in the exuberance of Domineco Scarlatti and Josef Haydn ?

  • @grantheron4595
    @grantheron4595 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since established so bella

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta listen to these later

  • @saulpiano4158
    @saulpiano4158 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video

  • @CaseyVan
    @CaseyVan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow those bass notes!

  • @YANAGITAtokinori
    @YANAGITAtokinori 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I noticed that I should study Haydn's works.

  • @bcpa1980
    @bcpa1980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wim, thanks for such a wonderful treat for fans of both Hadyn and the clavichord! Is it known if any of Haydn’s keyboard sonatas were either composed for the clavichord, or on the clavichord? I’ve read that it is either known or highly suspected that some of the early ones were composed for, or on, the harpsichord. I feel like some of the Haydn sonatas feel somewhat “thin” on modern piano, but I really like the sound on clavichord. I have the complete Haydn piano sonatas from Naxos (played by Jeno Jando), but I’ve only been able to find one recording of Haydn on clavichord, by Derek Adlam. This upload of yours, though, really is a treasure-with nearly three hours of Haydn on clavichord!

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff Berrier Yes, actually the only instrument we know for sure that Haydn owned is a clavichord now in the Royal college of music (Bohak 1794). And the clavichord was certainly very present in those times, certainly much more than the harpsichord, which was uses for ensemble work but was quickly being replaced by the fortepiano.

  • @bryanpayne3793
    @bryanpayne3793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid

  • @Juno1849
    @Juno1849 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Will you do Haydn on the fortepiano in the future?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      O, that is a hard one... the latest sonatas maybe, since they feel very pianoforte-ish. But if it works on a clavichord... it feels so direct, so dynamic... on a pf, one does lose that close contact with the instrument, no matter how it sounds, the hammer leaves the finger before hitting the string, on a clavichord the finger decides everything, it is an addictive feeling!

  • @jurgenkarmeinsky1834
    @jurgenkarmeinsky1834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear friends of authentic sound, i want to tell you my experience: if you want to become a good fortepiano player, first study clavichord.

  • @jackhousman6637
    @jackhousman6637 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful, Maestro. Haydn and Telemann are my favorite composers for raising my spirits. They never fail. BTW, any chance of hearing the Erard piano? Stay well. (Jack and Carol.)

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jack! Here's the Erard: th-cam.com/video/AhlyRrZzkTU/w-d-xo.html

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the clavichord plucking the strings like a harpsichord/spinet or is it percussively hitting the strings like a modern piano does?
    Especially the low notes sound interesting and quite different from a harpsichord IMO.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the latter!

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AuthenticSound Ah nice.
      That makes the clavichord more similar to a piano than a harpsichord; that has never crossed my mind before.

  • @Dosoaftor
    @Dosoaftor ปีที่แล้ว

  • @nicky.hamlyn
    @nicky.hamlyn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What tuning are you using please?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Werckmeister Well-tempered 1707. There is a playlist about tuning on my channel

  • @chrisridenhour
    @chrisridenhour 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t Hayden’s wife use his manuscripts to bake cookies once? 🎹 🍪

  • @jeremyrosen6492
    @jeremyrosen6492 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you going to record the actual "Well--tempered Clavichord"?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      work in progress: th-cam.com/play/PLackZ_5a6IWUol-RL_afcLg4Eyd2G7sV7.html

    • @jeremyrosen6492
      @jeremyrosen6492 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AuthenticSound Bravo!!! :-)

  • @classicgameplay10
    @classicgameplay10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone knows the sonata Beethoven plays here in this scene ? /c2ZlLN_s3t0?t=114

  • @reflechant
    @reflechant 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Maybe it's you, maybe it's your beautiful clavichord but I must say that your interpretations (be it Bach, Haydn or Beethoven) have (amongst many other good things) such a quality that I would call logical consistency. I have listened to many different interpretations of Beethoven sonatas, Haydn sonatas and very often I can't help but notice some weird pauses that has no sense, weird changes of the character of music etc., etc. Here, with you, with your clavichord I don't have such feeling. Now I notice that in some places musicians playing modern piano absolutely ruin the same affect and idea of a piece because modern piano has just wrong volume balance for this music - they have to play left hand super accurately to not to deafen the right hand and it become to sound super gently (and in most cases absolutely inappropriate).
    In some sense clavichord and pianoforte have much more dynamics than modern Steinways which sound equally crystally dull at any speed and any force of attack.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So great to read this on a sunny Wednesday morning... thanks!

    • @pietrolandri6081
      @pietrolandri6081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is only one logical alternative to clavichord as far as Haydn and Mozart (and early and medium era's Beethoven sonatas). Fortepiano. Modern piano is unfit. Perhaps Tangent Piano is also good, as it is as far as CPE Bach but I personally prefer Tangent for concertos and Clavichord for solo music. Fortepiano is good for both solos and accompanied music (chamber music and concertos).
      However clavichord is perfect here.

  • @RalphHancock
    @RalphHancock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful music, truly from the Age of Reason, gloriously performed. It really does sound better on your clavichord than it does on the early pianos and copies of early pianos I have heard, possibly because you have a uniquely fine clavichord and the pianos are a bit so-so, but certainly because of the directness of touch of a clavichord, which you exploit to the full. I'm working my way through this set one sonata at a time, because when you have heard one you need to stop and reflect on what you have heard. My only criticism of the film is that the cameraman was far too busy with odd angles and distracting picture-in-picture. We should have the view of a concertgoer in the best seat in the house, where he can see you, and what your hands are doing, and the pleasingly simple little bits of wood flying up and hitting the strings with the brass tangents, not hidden by the sheet music. And, having set his camera in the best possible place, he should have sat down and left it running throughout.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to read Ralph, really glad this is of inspiration to you! The camera position, yes, I'd love to only have to set it up... of course this is a compilation of videos over 3 years and I learned so much. As that the watchtime increases with the variety of camera angles and vice versa... it's our time I guess. But I'll remember what you've said!

  • @grantheron4595
    @grantheron4595 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I non so Haydn escrive piu bel

  • @achillepicchi2590
    @achillepicchi2590 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just don't like your articulations for lack of imagination, which is all that Haydn had. A lot!

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well... sorry to read that. It's 18th century keyboard style... but no problem if it's not your cup of tea!