Interesting stuff here. Probably have to watch this again. Leaning into the chaos makes sense. For a while now I have wanted to escape society as much as possible and I realize that’s because I am looking for stability. Life is one big sloppy joe.
I got to say thank you for this video. I found it just in time. I've just been stuck in a hole of staying inside researching everything about reality and people pretty much just what you say and after watching one of the videos from personality hacker usually they're content is really vague but this video really hit home that I watched. But going from that video to this video really makes me serious about getting that reality side of my mind to beat the abstract this time and actually make it out the other side instead of being so close and sucked back in like usual.
Lean into chaos- you can't do this and plan at the same time. it's not that you need to rely on the plan, but for intjs planning is like a mode of thinking- strategy is part of our understanding of our identity in a situation. Leaning into chaos is like asking for ego death- it can be done but without drugs? It's a lot to ask to very little reward most of the time-- and you know that's how INTJs think. It just feels like mindless gambling. Here's my advice: instead of trying to fight your nature by being the total opposite: HOST. Host the parties- have a job and a roll and some built in status. Then, from there, push yourself to the guest more often and slowly relinquish your sense of and need for control. I think this will give you more fun times and make it feel less like work. You're probably never going to be super social long term anyways.
I partially agree. That's the essence of what I was trying to communicate. Small doses of real risk to let go of the illusion of control, obviously with reasonable risk. It's mindless gambling in the same sense that snowboarding or skating are mindless forms of locomotion. While they are riskier than walking, they can strengthen the real-time improvisational intelligence (Se)
I didn't quite grasp your ending comment on Developing Valuation that: INTJs should not try to act/pretend to be agreeable or like they have Fe, and be accommodating (12:48). As an INTJ woman, I have found that in general people are easier to handle when I meet their stereotypes of women and pretend to have Fe when I don't. 🕹Therefore I've perceived that trying to practice Fe behavior as trying to 'develop' in so much as I'm metaphorically adding more control mechanisms to my disposal to have a better capacity to convey the color of emotions they see in me, no? (As INTJs often are incline to low affect). Could you perhaps explain where my understanding of this concept fell off?
Social gender expectations associate femininity with Fe: being/appearing agreeable and adapting to social demands so what you say sounds familiar. That's not what I was getting at. The process I describe is about refining the personal like/dislike reactions by acknowledging and integrating them. I've found IxTJs struggle to acknowledge and articulate the subjective influences in their decisions, so they may rely too much on logic, confabulations (making up explanations and rationalizations) post-hoc. Valuation typically manifests in moral ideals (virtues, values, principles...), aesthetic sensitivity (music, art, beauty, quality) and sometimes relationship preference (the specific qualities that you are attracted to). In many ways, they can be reduced to "because I like it so and that's that" core values. If left undeveloped, it may hijack the reasoning function and could blind side you when subjective factors unconsciously "bleed" into rational (Te) decision making. Typically, an XXFP can nurture and grow this side of the INTJ. The function I'm getting at is probably closer to Fi , which according to cognitive function theory is in the INTJ stack.
Are those points still what you would recommend today? Or was this just another step of your growth journey and today you would give other advice? I feel like whatever insights I gain, there is always more to learn. Sometimes it also feels like it's kind of a Sisyphus-work cause there is no end to this journey. Also is there a kind of unconscious learning curve for all people due to modern global telecommunication technology or is it really an individual path and insight that you gained here and many people before you had reached this clarity too? I'm always looking to get ahead of knowledge but constantly learning that there is always more to learn. It also sounds like you already found the "formula for health", but there are obstacles for you too, right? Or do you feel like you reached a state of not needing to grow any more and can now enjoy life? Probably not, right? Loved the video btw. I will follow your advice about learning Fi from other Fi users. This was really a great advice. And I agree that by consciously deciding on giving up to follow the inner rabbit hole in some parts (That parts that seem to not improve by analyzing so deeply) and enganging chaos more frequently, the self conscious improves. Am currently developing this concept further to see what areas it is applicable too. :D Here's a nice definition of Ni that correlates with your explanation in the beginning. Ni = My subjective attachment to patterns my unconsciousness provides me with Great videos mate!
Yes, I would still recommend these things. If I were to add an addendum, I would perhaps emphasize the tension between Fi & Te more, especially as one gets older and is forced to decide between Te objectives and Fi morals. In my development, I am still working on getting comfortable with my subjectivity -- and embracing it as a necessary part of my personality instead of rationalizing it. I will throw in the cliche of "we're all unique individuals" and then say that any individual INTJ probably shares some percentage of life paths (I don't know exactly what the statistics say), struggles, etc... with other INTJs but I highly doubt that they are structured in a similar way for everyone. There is plenty of variation. I know INTJs who have excellent Fi but struggle with Te, and can even mistrust logic at times. I haven't found the formula for ideal health, it is something I working on perpetually. At best, I can compare previous states to what I feel now, and conclude things are easier. The premise of my video was that we all want "ease", and I do feel more at ease as a result of doing some of these things. For example, living with my INFP partner has given me safe space for my silly/artistic/fun side to manifest. I haven't picked up sports but I've started taking on physical household projects without any formal instruction -- things that would have intimidated me a few years ago. I still struggle to implement some of my own advice, especially "leaning into chaos". But the people around me have told me that I'm calmer and more laid back than I was a few years ago -- so it may have helped. "I'm always looking to get ahead of knowledge but constantly learning that there is always more to learn." -- yes, that is Ni and it may short-circuit some learning paths. After all, we don't grow wise by acquiring information about wisdom, we must live through it. Cheers!
17:35 the chart on the right immediately reminds me of the S&P 500 graph YTD lol. Thanks for the tips, I relate to a lot of this. 23:43 is exactly how i'm thinking... that's scary. #5 was scarily accurate too....
As an intj, I often daydream about how different my life would be if I was more forward spoken and outgoing.
So relieving to hear that, I thought I was going to be crazy. It turned out it’s just of my personality type.
Please come back and post some more. Love your content.
What topics would you like me to cover?
Interesting stuff here. Probably have to watch this again.
Leaning into the chaos makes sense. For a while now I have wanted to escape society as much as possible and I realize that’s because I am looking for stability. Life is one big sloppy joe.
I like the fact you go straight to the point - thank you.
u should make a break down of all the cognitive functions and blind spots of the intj
I got to say thank you for this video. I found it just in time. I've just been stuck in a hole of staying inside researching everything about reality and people pretty much just what you say and after watching one of the videos from personality hacker usually they're content is really vague but this video really hit home that I watched. But going from that video to this video really makes me serious about getting that reality side of my mind to beat the abstract this time and actually make it out the other side instead of being so close and sucked back in like usual.
Glad it helped
How’s it been
Lean into chaos- you can't do this and plan at the same time. it's not that you need to rely on the plan, but for intjs planning is like a mode of thinking- strategy is part of our understanding of our identity in a situation. Leaning into chaos is like asking for ego death- it can be done but without drugs? It's a lot to ask to very little reward most of the time-- and you know that's how INTJs think. It just feels like mindless gambling.
Here's my advice: instead of trying to fight your nature by being the total opposite: HOST. Host the parties- have a job and a roll and some built in status. Then, from there, push yourself to the guest more often and slowly relinquish your sense of and need for control. I think this will give you more fun times and make it feel less like work. You're probably never going to be super social long term anyways.
I partially agree. That's the essence of what I was trying to communicate. Small doses of real risk to let go of the illusion of control, obviously with reasonable risk.
It's mindless gambling in the same sense that snowboarding or skating are mindless forms of locomotion. While they are riskier than walking, they can strengthen the real-time improvisational intelligence (Se)
Great video.
Thanks!
Wish there was an entp going this deep about their personality and cognitive functions
It could be you, do your research and create your video for others!
I've added a video on ENTP
This is really cool. Can you make a video about an INTJ working with an ENFJ? In all aspects, and specifically in a romantic relationship.
I will add that to the queue
Thank you for this video.
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful buddy
Thanks ✌️
I didn't quite grasp your ending comment on Developing Valuation that: INTJs should not try to act/pretend to be agreeable or like they have Fe, and be accommodating (12:48). As an INTJ woman, I have found that in general people are easier to handle when I meet their stereotypes of women and pretend to have Fe when I don't. 🕹Therefore I've perceived that trying to practice Fe behavior as trying to 'develop' in so much as I'm metaphorically adding more control mechanisms to my disposal to have a better capacity to convey the color of emotions they see in me, no? (As INTJs often are incline to low affect). Could you perhaps explain where my understanding of this concept fell off?
Social gender expectations associate femininity with Fe: being/appearing agreeable and adapting to social demands so what you say sounds familiar. That's not what I was getting at.
The process I describe is about refining the personal like/dislike reactions by acknowledging and integrating them. I've found IxTJs struggle to acknowledge and articulate the subjective influences in their decisions, so they may rely too much on logic, confabulations (making up explanations and rationalizations) post-hoc.
Valuation typically manifests in moral ideals (virtues, values, principles...), aesthetic sensitivity (music, art, beauty, quality) and sometimes relationship preference (the specific qualities that you are attracted to). In many ways, they can be reduced to "because I like it so and that's that" core values.
If left undeveloped, it may hijack the reasoning function and could blind side you when subjective factors unconsciously "bleed" into rational (Te) decision making. Typically, an XXFP can nurture and grow this side of the INTJ.
The function I'm getting at is probably closer to Fi , which according to cognitive function theory is in the INTJ stack.
Are those points still what you would recommend today? Or was this just another step of your growth journey and today you would give other advice? I feel like whatever insights I gain, there is always more to learn. Sometimes it also feels like it's kind of a Sisyphus-work cause there is no end to this journey.
Also is there a kind of unconscious learning curve for all people due to modern global telecommunication technology or is it really an individual path and insight that you gained here and many people before you had reached this clarity too?
I'm always looking to get ahead of knowledge but constantly learning that there is always more to learn.
It also sounds like you already found the "formula for health", but there are obstacles for you too, right? Or do you feel like you reached a state of not needing to grow any more and can now enjoy life? Probably not, right?
Loved the video btw.
I will follow your advice about learning Fi from other Fi users. This was really a great advice.
And I agree that by consciously deciding on giving up to follow the inner rabbit hole in some parts (That parts that seem to not improve by analyzing so deeply) and enganging chaos more frequently, the self conscious improves. Am currently developing this concept further to see what areas it is applicable too. :D
Here's a nice definition of Ni that correlates with your explanation in the beginning.
Ni = My subjective attachment to patterns my unconsciousness provides me with
Great videos mate!
Yes, I would still recommend these things.
If I were to add an addendum, I would perhaps emphasize the tension between Fi & Te more, especially as one gets older and is forced to decide between Te objectives and Fi morals. In my development, I am still working on getting comfortable with my subjectivity -- and embracing it as a necessary part of my personality instead of rationalizing it.
I will throw in the cliche of "we're all unique individuals" and then say that any individual INTJ probably shares some percentage of life paths (I don't know exactly what the statistics say), struggles, etc... with other INTJs but I highly doubt that they are structured in a similar way for everyone. There is plenty of variation. I know INTJs who have excellent Fi but struggle with Te, and can even mistrust logic at times.
I haven't found the formula for ideal health, it is something I working on perpetually. At best, I can compare previous states to what I feel now, and conclude things are easier. The premise of my video was that we all want "ease", and I do feel more at ease as a result of doing some of these things.
For example, living with my INFP partner has given me safe space for my silly/artistic/fun side to manifest. I haven't picked up sports but I've started taking on physical household projects without any formal instruction -- things that would have intimidated me a few years ago.
I still struggle to implement some of my own advice, especially "leaning into chaos". But the people around me have told me that I'm calmer and more laid back than I was a few years ago -- so it may have helped.
"I'm always looking to get ahead of knowledge but constantly learning that there is always more to learn." -- yes, that is Ni and it may short-circuit some learning paths. After all, we don't grow wise by acquiring information about wisdom, we must live through it.
Cheers!
17:35 the chart on the right immediately reminds me of the S&P 500 graph YTD lol. Thanks for the tips, I relate to a lot of this. 23:43 is exactly how i'm thinking... that's scary. #5 was scarily accurate too....