11:10 The idea that wolves would follow humans and eat their scraps comes from the mind of a single man who has never been camping where wolves live. I say single, because no sane woman would let a wolf or wolves come within 200 yards of her children and never been camping, because a person who has camped out in the wild knows how vulnerable they are to wolves and that they would not allow them to be around the campground.
Curious too. I have 1 client; husky/lab mix, lived semi wild with inuit sled dogs. Nice, friendly, usually good with large dogs, thinks small ones are prey. Goes from zero to 11 on a scale of 10 over found resources. I can give food to her in a room with 5 other dogs without a problem. She understands that each dog will get a fair treat portion. (They do recognise "fairness" in rewards). Her owner can not do this. If I have access to the mother and pups early enough that's when I can shape behaviour. After the 14 weekish break, you're swimming upstream in behaviour modification.
Also, one of the body differncea btwn dogs and wolves is the placement of the forelegs... in wolves the forelegs are close together and the chest is narrow. In dogs the chest is more open with the forelegs more out to the side. Does anyone know why? Is this a doggie benefit or detriment?
Indeed, jackals, coyotes, coywolves (apparently an emerging "species"), wolves, and dogs are so close at the genetic level that they could be regarded as a single species rather than a genus (Canis), much as the races of sapiens are classified as a single species. Foxes, however, are in a different genus (Vulpes) which is sufficiently distant that it is unable to breed with members of Canis.
So, is it possible that as dogs became domesticated helping us hunt and guarding our homes, making our lives easier, our morphology changed along the same lines. I like to think so. They changed us as much as we changed them.
Neoteny and lung control aswell as sensory adjustment for visual which takes place before smell.. this order: hearing leads to touch leading to vision leading to smell leading to taste
The red wolf on this? Actually ur missing the missing link.. Canis Rufus.. I happen to have a canis Rufus somehow mixed with a Bernese mountain dog.. which normally is impossible
Not impossible. Dogs, wolves, jackals and coyotes can easily interbreed, and often will when given the opportunity. Red, yellow, and gray wolves are just minor racial distinctions, even more genetically minor than racial differences in man. Indeed, wolves, dogs and jackals were found in one study to be less genetically distinct than those human races we are often told these days do not really exist, so imagine how small the differences must be between different "species" of wolf.
Great stuff, as usual. However, scientists need to stop describing domestic wolves (dogs) as simply having great diversity. Dogs are certainly variable, but much of the "diversity" we see in dogs today is really pathology, i.e. snouts and legs that are too short (brachycephaly and dwarfism), as well as other anomalies like droopy ears, deeply creased skin, being tailless (bobtail), etc. Breeders select for these traits because they consider them "desirable," but they are really birth defects, and should be regarded as such. Dogs should still look somewhat wolf-like, with normal body proportions, because if they don't, they suffer for it. And like all animals, they should not be inbred in small populations (pure breeds), either. Wolves and other animals appear to have domesticated themselves, and the long-standing symbiotic relationship between modern humans and domestic wolves is wonderful. However, dog abuse remains widespread, and it comes in the forms of physical and emotional misconduct, the use of dogs for meat, and qualzucht (torture-breeding) for extreme traits in small, inbred populations.
It doesn't really work that way - we ourselves have some bad "programming" and often traits that were advantages in the past just cause disease now. Sickle cell and Tay Sachs being two examples. So while breeding is cruel and unnatural it still gets the animals fed and they continue their genes. There is no "morality" in natural selection which is a sort of algorithm of genes and environment and they are using the term in that context. That's not a way to say it's appropriate to make these animals suffer for our vanity but within the context it is the best term
@@belliotrungy9107 a confused reply that's so confused that it would take too much energy and time to set you straight. Invest in a real academic education on the subject. Your commentary is riddled with bogus ignorance
@@christopheclugston condescending useless vanity post you did there. Are you alt right? My tedious reply to poor plains pup angry at dog breeders gains nothing from you just another pompous layer however you don't even try 😆
@@belliotrungy9107 I agree with your reply to Chris, but I think you mean alt-left. Or rather, left in general. Though they're aren't much different than alt right 🤷
15k years!? That's RIDICULOUS!!! At least 50k years ago when Humans spread all around the globe. At LEAST! I wouldn't be surprised if it went back further. Humans definitely had domesticated dogs at least 25k years ago when we know they were in the Americas... again, probably much earlier than that. At least another 10k years.
I was thinking (a year ago) about the increase in hypothyroidism as a correlate to the soft, slow, "easy" behavior of more domesticated, easy to handle breeds or types. Also the increased angle of the "stop" of the skull as an accommodation to the larger inhibitory areas of the brain.
Can't take credit for these ideas, read them somewhere decades ago. Could look up the sources if pushed, I guess. Personal experience mainly with Malamutes - different bloodlines known for different behavioral tendencies, an X-Inuit dog, and now a Dutch Shepherd (very domesticated in comparison).
A Singh Domestic cats and wild cats have the same differences in behaviour as the two foxes in the video. Many domestic cats are social, curious to human activity, addicted to being cuddled. Some come when called by their name and can learn easy tricks and works. There are also breeds like ragdoll cat that are very dependant of their owners, completely submissive to manipulation and have lost their drive for hunt and self defense. It all depends on the lineage and experiences. Street and rural cats are mostly feral. sometimes very social to humans and sometimes not. They hunt, but also dogs hunt. Many hunting traditional dog breeds are more primitive than other breeds. In both species it's halfway between feral capability and total domestication.
Well the wolf type creature maybe the last creature the dog went ,but remember there was the weasel type,bear type, large cat type first ,meaning this is where dogs get other genes and traits from,look up the beardog creature, also we have the bushdog very weasel like and the raccoon dog
I dont know if I'm taking it too far, but the idea I get at the end of the video is that our evolution has a drive towards less agressive behaviour and less physical strentgh, in order to gain more intelligence and social skills, and also a preference for a less stressful life. And this is confirmed in other species like the domesticated ones they talk about. So this contradicts again the traditional popular idea of evolution as the competition where the stronger and the agressive are the best fit, largely defended by a masculine (sexist) mentality that cant see the natural and neccessary feminization of intelligent social development. No SJW speech intended, but a sociological twist to the biological explanations in the video.
it doesnt contradict natural selection or evolution in a natural environment. However since we have created a, more or less, artificial environment, yes the traits that would normally be selected in a natural setting are no longer as important/can even be a problem (eg: aggressiveness in humans/domesticated animals).
The selection is still there, it's just that cooperative social behavior is more productive and less risky than openly competitive ones. One could say that cooperation has out-competed competition.
Rob M Nothing in my coment suggests I defend personally the idea that evolution is about more strength of agressiveness, but is what people tend to understand. I been aware for a long time that survival of the fittest does not mean survival of the baddest. And I been reading biology as a hobby for more than 30 years. What is clear is that you dont get the idea that discussing about science has nothing to do with expressing yourself as a douche. Have a good day you moron.
These guys need revisit the studies done on orphans raised in isolation an cages...dogs..as.well.as.other mammals are extreekly social.creatures ..an animal that has 24/7 contact with a farmer is.completely different than a dog who sees their owner after work and before bed...much less one that is raised inna cage...the smarter animals are the ones that are not so trusting...then stupid ones would of.never been selected...except.as.a.bed warmer...which is why men eantrd these.creatures.around
He opens his lecture by saying a man sequenced the genome of his dog and, (drumroll, please....), .'a bucket of seawater....from his yacht'?' Wth? Why didn't he simply say, a bucket of seawater? The ONLY reason he mentioned yacht, is to make people believe this guy must know what he's doing because he's a multimillionaire. Next, please explain, How does one sequence the DNA of SALT WATER?, ffs.
I've been breeding dogs for years. For food. I feed them other dogs from the shelter or from the pound, or just strays. It's a twofer. They're delicious, and there is an endless supply, that are just going to waste with lethal injections. As a joke, I call them "hotdogs", but in reality, you can even eat them cold, like sandwich meat. The best thing of all is, they're free! Thank you suburbia.
Finally a video of Robert Wayne that has good sound quality. Thanks so much to the OP for sharing this!
The music at the beginning of the CARTA videos sounds like it's from "The Exorcist"
THE POWER OF SCIENCE COMPELS YOU!
Lol
11:10 The idea that wolves would follow humans and eat their scraps comes from the mind of a single man who has never been camping where wolves live. I say single, because no sane woman would let a wolf or wolves come within 200 yards of her children and never been camping, because a person who has camped out in the wild knows how vulnerable they are to wolves and that they would not allow them to be around the campground.
As a dog owner, I can verify they live to scavenge scraps.
Professor Wayne has such interesting data regarding the domestication of dogs. I really enjoyed his lecture. Thank you
Thank you for sharing this
Came looking for fun animal videos, and wasn't disappointed.
I’d love to know your opinion of resource guarding and the domestication.
Curious too. I have 1 client; husky/lab mix, lived semi wild with inuit sled dogs. Nice, friendly, usually good with large dogs, thinks small ones are prey. Goes from zero to 11 on a scale of 10 over found resources. I can give food to her in a room with 5 other dogs without a problem. She understands that each dog will get a fair treat portion. (They do recognise "fairness" in rewards). Her owner can not do this. If I have access to the mother and pups early enough that's when I can shape behaviour. After the 14 weekish break, you're swimming upstream in behaviour modification.
Also, one of the body differncea btwn dogs and wolves is the placement of the forelegs... in wolves the forelegs are close together and the chest is narrow. In dogs the chest is more open with the forelegs more out to the side. Does anyone know why? Is this a doggie benefit or detriment?
I’m watching this with my dogs.
Good boy
did you make the same experiment with jackals as well ? jackals are closer to dogs than foxes in genetic terms if I m not mistaken.
Indeed, jackals, coyotes, coywolves (apparently an emerging "species"), wolves, and dogs are so close at the genetic level that they could be regarded as a single species rather than a genus (Canis), much as the races of sapiens are classified as a single species. Foxes, however, are in a different genus (Vulpes) which is sufficiently distant that it is unable to breed with members of Canis.
@@michaels4255 would like to see more on coydogs
So, is it possible that as dogs became domesticated helping us hunt and guarding our homes, making our lives easier, our morphology changed along the same lines. I like to think so. They changed us as much as we changed them.
This is fascinating.
Fascinating
Neoteny and lung control aswell as sensory adjustment for visual which takes place before smell.. this order: hearing leads to touch leading to vision leading to smell leading to taste
Raise your hand If you did not understand this woman. Talk slower accentuate your words. I needed to listen very close to know that it was "english"
The red wolf on this? Actually ur missing the missing link.. Canis Rufus.. I happen to have a canis Rufus somehow mixed with a Bernese mountain dog.. which normally is impossible
Not impossible. Dogs, wolves, jackals and coyotes can easily interbreed, and often will when given the opportunity. Red, yellow, and gray wolves are just minor racial distinctions, even more genetically minor than racial differences in man. Indeed, wolves, dogs and jackals were found in one study to be less genetically distinct than those human races we are often told these days do not really exist, so imagine how small the differences must be between different "species" of wolf.
Great stuff, as usual. However, scientists need to stop describing domestic wolves (dogs) as simply having great diversity. Dogs are certainly variable, but much of the "diversity" we see in dogs today is really pathology, i.e. snouts and legs that are too short (brachycephaly and dwarfism), as well as other anomalies like droopy ears, deeply creased skin, being tailless (bobtail), etc. Breeders select for these traits because they consider them "desirable," but they are really birth defects, and should be regarded as such. Dogs should still look somewhat wolf-like, with normal body proportions, because if they don't, they suffer for it. And like all animals, they should not be inbred in small populations (pure breeds), either. Wolves and other animals appear to have domesticated themselves, and the long-standing symbiotic relationship between modern humans and domestic wolves is wonderful. However, dog abuse remains widespread, and it comes in the forms of physical and emotional misconduct, the use of dogs for meat, and qualzucht (torture-breeding) for extreme traits in small, inbred populations.
It doesn't really work that way - we ourselves have some bad "programming" and often traits that were advantages in the past just cause disease now. Sickle cell and Tay Sachs being two examples. So while breeding is cruel and unnatural it still gets the animals fed and they continue their genes. There is no "morality" in natural selection which is a sort of algorithm of genes and environment and they are using the term in that context. That's not a way to say it's appropriate to make these animals suffer for our vanity but within the context it is the best term
@@belliotrungy9107 a confused reply that's so confused that it would take too much energy and time to set you straight. Invest in a real academic education on the subject. Your commentary is riddled with bogus ignorance
@@christopheclugston condescending useless vanity post you did there. Are you alt right? My tedious reply to poor plains pup angry at dog breeders gains nothing from you just another pompous layer however you don't even try 😆
@@belliotrungy9107 fake name no real photo, troll account cyber coward ultracrepidarian. Pathetic
@@belliotrungy9107 I agree with your reply to Chris, but I think you mean alt-left. Or rather, left in general. Though they're aren't much different than alt right 🤷
15k years!? That's RIDICULOUS!!! At least 50k years ago when Humans spread all around the globe. At LEAST! I wouldn't be surprised if it went back further. Humans definitely had domesticated dogs at least 25k years ago when we know they were in the Americas... again, probably much earlier than that. At least another 10k years.
This guy has GOT to get a class in slideshow making
is there also a correlation between selection for passivity, weakness, less aggressive behavior and immune function?
I don't think so. IMO, dogs are being bred into the 21st century by taking more and more the role of a companion, and less of an aid.
I was thinking (a year ago) about the increase in hypothyroidism as a correlate to the soft, slow, "easy" behavior of more domesticated, easy to handle breeds or types. Also the increased angle of the "stop" of the skull as an accommodation to the larger inhibitory areas of the brain.
Can't take credit for these ideas, read them somewhere decades ago. Could look up the sources if pushed, I guess. Personal experience mainly with Malamutes - different bloodlines known for different behavioral tendencies, an X-Inuit dog, and now a Dutch Shepherd (very domesticated in comparison).
Peter Giacobbe All cats are wild. They will never truly be domesticated.
A Singh Domestic cats and wild cats have the same differences in behaviour as the two foxes in the video. Many domestic cats are social, curious to human activity, addicted to being cuddled. Some come when called by their name and can learn easy tricks and works. There are also breeds like ragdoll cat that are very dependant of their owners, completely submissive to manipulation and have lost their drive for hunt and self defense.
It all depends on the lineage and experiences. Street and rural cats are mostly feral. sometimes very social to humans and sometimes not. They hunt, but also dogs hunt. Many hunting traditional dog breeds are more primitive than other breeds. In both species it's halfway between feral capability and total domestication.
A Little bit different
He's using a Macbook Pro or Air
CARTA is good stuff.
God Love to the one who wrote the Russian ladys captions, she was difficult to understand 😂
Are less facial projection and delicate skulls a "feminine" canine trait? That's such a strange (seemingly) misogynistic way to put it
The Dingo is a descendant of a domesticated dog brought to Australia by Australasians at LEAST 50k years ago.... 🦧🤔
amazing
Well the wolf type creature maybe the last creature the dog went ,but remember there was the weasel type,bear type, large cat type first ,meaning this is where dogs get other genes and traits from,look up the beardog creature, also we have the bushdog very weasel like and the raccoon dog
This is so good but come on, comic sans? 🤨
I dont know if I'm taking it too far, but the idea I get at the end of the video is that our evolution has a drive towards less agressive behaviour and less physical strentgh, in order to gain more intelligence and social skills, and also a preference for a less stressful life. And this is confirmed in other species like the domesticated ones they talk about. So this contradicts again the traditional popular idea of evolution as the competition where the stronger and the agressive are the best fit, largely defended by a masculine (sexist) mentality that cant see the natural and neccessary feminization of intelligent social development.
No SJW speech intended, but a sociological twist to the biological explanations in the video.
it doesnt contradict natural selection or evolution in a natural environment. However since we have created a, more or less, artificial environment, yes the traits that would normally be selected in a natural setting are no longer as important/can even be a problem (eg: aggressiveness in humans/domesticated animals).
The selection is still there, it's just that cooperative social behavior is more productive and less risky than openly competitive ones. One could say that cooperation has out-competed competition.
Rob M Nothing in my coment suggests I defend personally the idea that evolution is about more strength of agressiveness, but is what people tend to understand. I been aware for a long time that survival of the fittest does not mean survival of the baddest. And I been reading biology as a hobby for more than 30 years. What is clear is that you dont get the idea that discussing about science has nothing to do with expressing yourself as a douche. Have a good day you moron.
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Nice job as coming out as beta because of a video .
"Best fit" means best fit----not "strongest". It varies based on the environment.
9gag comment brought me here
Hisss!
These guys need revisit the studies done on orphans raised in isolation an cages...dogs..as.well.as.other mammals are extreekly social.creatures ..an animal that has 24/7 contact with a farmer is.completely different than a dog who sees their owner after work and before bed...much less one that is raised inna cage...the smarter animals are the ones that are not so trusting...then stupid ones would of.never been selected...except.as.a.bed warmer...which is why men eantrd these.creatures.around
He opens his lecture by saying a man sequenced the genome of his dog and, (drumroll, please....), .'a bucket of seawater....from his yacht'?' Wth? Why didn't he simply say, a bucket of seawater? The ONLY reason he mentioned yacht, is to make people believe this guy must know what he's doing because he's a multimillionaire. Next, please explain, How does one sequence the DNA of SALT WATER?, ffs.
Gat that dawg I’m them
So this is why I have a weak jaw woof
3:34=You Don't have to imagine a weird looking 2 LB human ..they are called dwarfs
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Wait a minute...dingos only been around 4000 yrs but the Australia aborigines have been there for 50 thousand yrs? See ya...time to change channel.
Real wolves can't be black the black comes from mixing with wild dogs
Kazak Thranduil false
20% correct as usual morty
Kazak Thranduil wolves can be black
He made that point in the lecture.
I've been breeding dogs for years. For food. I feed them other dogs from the shelter or from the pound, or just strays. It's a twofer. They're delicious, and there is an endless supply, that are just going to waste with lethal injections. As a joke, I call them "hotdogs", but in reality, you can even eat them cold, like sandwich meat. The best thing of all is, they're free! Thank you suburbia.
zipper pillow cool
You are a POS!
I shot a pack of wolves.
What a guy!
What a tough man you are, thanks for sharing your great achievement.
Pill Box u a asshole
frankos rooni thank u for saying that to him I hate when people kill wolves
No you didn’t. You’re full of shit.