That's so cool. I would be out there with a metal detector any time I could. They used to just throw stuff they didn't need anymore from the train. Not to mention all the parts that fell off
@@1978garfield Be very careful about picking up railroad leavings. Even things like railroad spikes are a problem because they cannot be legally sold or possessed. It is actually a federal crime.
I really enjoyed your video. I'm from Pellston. My grandfather was an engineer on a logging train for Jackson & Tindel Lumber Co., here in Pellston. Have several pictures of him and his train and of the mills. Colonel Bogardus ran the mill and his son-in-law was William Pells. The town is named after him. Thanks for making the video.
Aha! The hook is for wooden ties, I had one that I found, it had that flattened tongue before the point, I had always thought it hay hook, I guess I had always thought wrong. I've spent thousands of hours hiking, hunting, and exploring the Northwoods of the U.P. and Northern Wi, I've learned that no matter how many miles away from the nearest town or road you are, you will find remnants of the logging days. I found countless 2 men buck saws (none with handles), remains of kerosene cans, axe bits, railroad spikes, wedges, the remains of logging camps and their dumps, etc. I was also an avid scuba diver in the 70s and 80s, many of the lakes hold a bonanza of stuff too, I've found pike poles and cant hooks, one, a peavey, had a complete handle in good condition (was in the silt). I once found a chain with huge links, I started pulling it out of the silt, it was getting too heavy to get back to shore so I left it.
May I ask where about do you explore to find that stuff just find a forest by a river with known logging history and start looking? I would like to start actually finding the tools rather than buying them off people I live close by the Rum River platte lake and river areas all of which were heavily logged and used for drives do I find state forest land or where do I start
I always loved to listen to the old folks when I was a bairn in the 70's and 80's. I learned several of the names of the tools Jim showed. I even decorate with o!d tools, tack and tree parts. Yes, I'm a single man.
My Family is from the UP. Calumet and Laurium. Miners mostly, I feel connected to the area and these videos are very interesting. These people worked hard and did what had to be done. Not like today.
Grandfather owned a logging company in the 1940 AMASA Mi. first to have chainsaws, he would sell to his more than 100 loggers on payments. My father was sometimes allowed in the camp as a cooks helper. He employed the whole town at times im told.
Nice presentation. I don't know how many saw filers remain in Michigan but I've been at it for 25 years and my saw shop in Charlevoix uses all those filing tools and more to keep those old crosscuts singing.
The beautiful grain of the steel of the felling saw is just gorgeous. I come from a long line of blacksmiths , loggers and coal/ore miners. I’m not from Michigan but Alabama and seeing these tools brings back old memories seeing this stuff as a kid and having my grandfather explain to me the very same processes . Wow so many parallels I love it! Can’t hooks pliers and all.
And I thought I knew all there was to know about Michigan's logging history. You showed me tools I never saw before. I like collecting old logging eqpt, so I'll keep my eye out for some of those rarer items. Enjoy your presentations.
Yeah,Nobody would go down steep hills with that load. In fact, loads this size are often show loads done for the camera and show what is possible for the crew and horses and oxen. However, there were large loads that could get out of control even on low grades with iced roads.
sure msta kept the Blacksmith(s). AY busy..... man oh....man !! hella learned a LOT about this magnificent American Heritage...!! great job. give U 5 STAR presentation. !!
Nothing but the BEST video ever on the Logging History of Michigan!! I must visit this Museum next visit to MI.. I currently live in SW Missouri and have since moving from Northville MI in 1978! Again I have enjoyed this video and love the lore & history of such a great State!
By contrast today we still cut "railroad "Tie Logs", typically from hardwoods, such as Oak Maple, Hickory, Ash etc. They R usually cut from lower grade logs, that R 11" and up. As there R some 6X8" by 8' 6" long most R 7"x9" by 8' 6" long. We deliver the round tie logs to local sawmills with log trucks. There R about 80 to 100 tie logs on 1 truck and pup trailer load.
Grandfather and his brothers worked the timber and at the mill between WI and MN in around the 1900's...Mill was at Taylor Falls MN...Wherhauser (sp) mill only hired Swedes or Norske guys....As the story goes, a Pole who spoke Swede became a hiring foreman and all the Polish names were changed to "Johnson" to provide workers !!!!
My Great uncles were Tie Buckers in in the 30s 40s and such. paid by the piece, we have a picture of Uncle Joe with 3 ties on his shoulder! Dad said they never hurt for money, were not even aware of the depression as they were making 300-500 dollars a week bucking ties! said they ate a 5 pound steak and 6 beers for lunch.
cool history. i suspect it also came from all over. trees grow all over. one sided axes and then the double sided one. the soke was that one sife was for the left facing trees and the other for the right facing trees . in my day the were lumber jaxks and today he have lumbee jills and lumber jacks and lumber jills. history channel was behind witness men because. there are ax women to. cool knowledge .
I have some very old Michigan logging tools for sale on SW Mich Craig's List. This video helped me to identify what some of the tools were used for.
Very interesting. Thank You
Great stuff. Thank you.
THANK YOU THIS IS GREAT
On my property there is a narrow gage rail road bed ,they used to haul logs out with.
That's so cool. I would be out there with a metal detector any time I could. They used to just throw stuff they didn't need anymore from the train. Not to mention all the parts that fell off
@@1978garfield Be very careful about picking up railroad leavings. Even things like railroad spikes are a problem because they cannot be legally sold or possessed. It is actually a federal crime.
Fantastic Presentation my friend 👍 thanks for keeping this History alive🇺🇸
I really enjoyed your video. I'm from Pellston. My grandfather was an engineer on a logging train for Jackson & Tindel Lumber Co., here in Pellston. Have several pictures of him and his train and of the mills. Colonel Bogardus ran the mill and his son-in-law was William Pells. The town is named after him. Thanks for making the video.
Really enjoy watching my grandpa worked floating logs in n Georgia in early 19 hundreds
Aha! The hook is for wooden ties, I had one that I found, it had that flattened tongue before the point, I had always thought it hay hook, I guess I had always thought wrong.
I've spent thousands of hours hiking, hunting, and exploring the Northwoods of the U.P. and Northern Wi, I've learned that no matter how many miles away from the nearest town or road you are, you will find remnants of the logging days. I found countless 2 men buck saws (none with handles), remains of kerosene cans, axe bits, railroad spikes, wedges, the remains of logging camps and their dumps, etc. I was also an avid scuba diver in the 70s and 80s, many of the lakes hold a bonanza of stuff too, I've found pike poles and cant hooks, one, a peavey, had a complete handle in good condition (was in the silt). I once found a chain with huge links, I started pulling it out of the silt, it was getting too heavy to get back to shore so I left it.
May I ask where about do you explore to find that stuff just find a forest by a river with known logging history and start looking? I would like to start actually finding the tools rather than buying them off people I live close by the Rum River platte lake and river areas all of which were heavily logged and used for drives do I find state forest land or where do I start
I always loved to listen to the old folks when I was a bairn in the 70's and 80's. I learned several of the names of the tools Jim showed. I even decorate with o!d tools, tack and tree parts. Yes, I'm a single man.
My Family is from the UP. Calumet and Laurium. Miners mostly, I feel connected to the area and these videos are very interesting. These people worked hard and did what had to be done. Not like today.
Grandfather owned a logging company in the 1940 AMASA Mi. first to have chainsaws, he would sell to his more than 100 loggers on payments. My father was sometimes allowed in the camp as a cooks helper. He employed the whole town at times im told.
Nice presentation. I don't know how many saw filers remain in Michigan but I've been at it for 25 years and my saw shop in Charlevoix uses all those filing tools and more to keep those old crosscuts singing.
Logging is a useful skill for many uses.TY Mr Cassell.
The beautiful grain of the steel of the felling saw is just gorgeous. I come from a long line of blacksmiths , loggers and coal/ore miners. I’m not from Michigan but Alabama and seeing these tools brings back old memories seeing this stuff as a kid and having my grandfather explain to me the very same processes . Wow so many parallels I love it! Can’t hooks pliers and all.
A friend an I have found a few of these items magnet fishing and metal detecting. Excellent video!
Love this program and history of logging tools
Great info about the logging industry.
Great video!
Thank You Sir,..I Learned a lot about My Home state
And I thought I knew all there was to know about Michigan's logging history. You showed me tools I never saw before.
I like collecting old logging eqpt, so I'll keep my eye out for some of those rarer items.
Enjoy your presentations.
Great job!
@6:29 Am I the only one who sees the puzzling nature of that photo?
Yeah,Nobody would go down steep hills with that load. In fact, loads this size are often show loads done for the camera and show what is possible for the crew and horses and oxen. However, there were large loads that could get out of control even on low grades with iced roads.
sure msta kept the Blacksmith(s). AY busy..... man oh....man !! hella learned a LOT about this magnificent American Heritage...!! great job. give U 5 STAR presentation. !!
This is awesome! Thank you very much!
This was fascinating! I knew forestry had some cool tools in it, but I was unaware of the sheer variety of implements.
Nothing but the BEST video ever on the Logging History of Michigan!!
I must visit this Museum next visit to MI.. I currently live in SW Missouri and have since moving from Northville MI in 1978!
Again I have enjoyed this video and love the lore & history of such a great State!
very very interesting and informitive
By contrast today we still cut "railroad "Tie Logs", typically from hardwoods, such as Oak Maple, Hickory, Ash etc. They R usually cut from lower grade logs, that R 11" and up. As there R some 6X8" by 8' 6" long most R 7"x9" by 8' 6" long. We deliver the round tie logs to local sawmills with log trucks. There R about 80 to 100 tie logs on 1 truck and pup trailer load.
Well done sir!
My grandma's house is one of the original ones to town built in 1890s
Great video thank you. We are currently searching the woods in Michigan for old logging camps
I liked seeing old logging ramps into the AuSable river. I never met Paul Bunyan though. I heard the author was from Oscoda.
Paul Bunyan has a restaurant in Northern WI, I guess he also has one in the the Wis. Dells too, so he must be still doing well.
Another great well put together and highly informative video cannot wait for you to do another one on mining tools thank you
Grandfather and his brothers worked the timber and at the mill between WI and MN in around the 1900's...Mill was at Taylor Falls MN...Wherhauser (sp) mill only hired Swedes or Norske guys....As the story goes, a Pole who spoke Swede became a hiring foreman and all the Polish names were changed to "Johnson" to provide workers !!!!
very well done, thank you
Thank you. It is amazing how America went from sparsely inhabited by natives to an industrial power in so short a time.
Pioneers they truy were.
Great watch! Thank you
My Great uncles were Tie Buckers in in the 30s 40s and such. paid by the piece, we have a picture of Uncle Joe with 3 ties on his shoulder! Dad said they never hurt for money, were not even aware of the depression as they were making 300-500 dollars a week bucking ties! said they ate a 5 pound steak and 6 beers for lunch.
Can you tell us more about that book?
I would love to find one.
Very interesting.i'll watch the mining one too.i saw it yrs ago.cathie from bham p.o.
Anyone know the exact title of the book @ 18:02? I can read out "Timber & Log Book" but I'm not finding anything online with that title.
I talked to Jim and it's "Scribner's Lumber and Log Book"
@@RochesterHillsTV Tell Jim I said thank you! This book is fantastic. I wouldn't have found it without this video.
@@MTHU0080 Will do - and thanks for watching!
are caulks the same thing as hobnail boots
Rafting pins, did anyone use old horse shoes to repurpose in pins. we find a lot of soes sharpended?
cool history. i suspect it also came from all over. trees grow all over.
one sided axes and then the double sided one. the soke was that one sife was for the left facing trees and the other for the right facing trees . in my day the were lumber jaxks and today he have lumbee jills and lumber jacks and lumber jills. history channel was behind witness men because. there are ax women to.
cool knowledge
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I didn't know I wanted to watch this until I did. :) Great tools!