BROTHER SPEEDIO IMTS 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- I had the chance to stop by the Brother booth at IMTS 2022 and take a look at these awesome compact machining centers. I learned a whole lot. I've got to admit I know very little about the speedio line of machining centers and I should have been better prepared going into talk to them I asked some silly questions, but I learned a whole lot. Brother makes many different versions of the speedio, the most surprising to me were the mill turn series. I was also super impressed with the integrated trunnion and full 5th axis machine they had. 200mm trunnion size and capable of mill turn or full 5 axis simultaneous operations. I could have spent more time and asked a lot more questions but they were generous to answer the questions I did have. Really impressive small fast machines.
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The 5 Axis Brother would be a great machine to think about for a future purchase.
That's a reasonable range of Work Holding with a 200mm Chuck, adding that it has a 63mm bore, great for slightly longer parts.
Definitely a Very Nice machine, I especially like the fairly small footprint of the machine.
Add a Robot Cell.
Amazing what this machine could be capable of.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video 👍
The rapid speeds are insane on these (I own one). I have a job that takes around 4 minutes with everything on maximum. Just dropping the rapids from "5" to "4" and the job takes 1 minute longer....
That's not changing the cutting speed. That's just changing the speed it moves around BETWEEN cutting. Bonkers how much difference this can make!
Haha are you serious? That’s SO wild! A full minute.😂. Dang man rapids and tool changes. Really cool insight thanks for sharing.
If it does save one minute that means you have no cutting time at all@@
Or do you have more than a piece in one operation.
@@youngforever9417 I think I've explained badly. The job usually takes 4 minutes. If I turn the rapids down, then it becomes a 5 minute job. So that's an extra minute just spent moving through the air and not cutting.
That's the power of the Speedio, they don't so much "move" and "warp drive" to the next location! My machine accelerates to 10k mm/min and then stops, whilst repositioning a tool in a 2mm wide slot! Crazy!
@@youngforever9417 With brother machines the rapid knob is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and I dont believe its a linear increase. If I were to guess it would be 5%, 10%, 30%, 60%, 100%. he still doesn't have much cutting time but a program running on a speedio is about 2.5x quicker and that is only because of rapids/tool change (ATC is also influenced by rapid dial)
Can't believe brother makes CNC machines. That tool changer is insanely fast
Some of the most sought after machines on the market. They are remarkable!
i've never seen the mill turn feature on this size of cnc. would be amazing for billet impeller. surely more convenient than an integrex
My only wonder is chip management, although I did see them tip the trunnion all the way upside down so I’m sure they thought of that already. Pretty amazing little machine.
Today I learned that Brother makes CNC machines! ...I thought they only made printers, lol! But it's amazing how fast that tool changer is! I don't recall the brand we had at my last job, but they were soooooo much slower than the Brother. But the machines were easily 20-ish years old
They are pretty neat eh! I thought it was funny too the first time I saw one. The printer company makes some pretty incredible machines. 😂Things have changed so much in the last 5 years since I started in CNC. I have 2 20 year old machines and they are SO much different nowadays. Pretty wild how technology changes things. Thanks for being here, hope you enjoyed the video!
i bet you are surprised that Samsung also makes container ships and not only Smartphones :P
Brother are maybe better known for making Sewing Machines.
Pretty much this is how they start as a company.
Many Industrial Sewing Machines are made by Brother.
Brother, Definitely make better CNC Machines than they make Printers ???
The Printers are just so so ??
@@weldmachine yeah, that makes sense now that you mention it. I remember that my mom and a lot of her sewing buddies have Brother sewing machines
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Yup. Same here.
Robodrill ATC is quite similar, all mechanic, using Z height to clamp, unclamp etc.
It’s very similar, but a robodrill rocks in and out as it picks tools. The speedio is directly vertical without the rocking motion.
@@ericschneiter similar no the same. Spindle movement is only vertical no rocking, as for the umbrella yes it does move just as the speedios with umbrellas. Robo is a bit more rigid on milling, Brother is faster on ATC, tapping, and spindle ramp up and down. Both great machines
The original concept for the turret tool changer is from Pratt & Whitney on production drill presses from the 1940s. The big difference (until recently) is that Brother uses a separate servo motor to drive the turret (or tool chain in some of the machines), Fanuc used a gear on the nose of the spindle until the ADV models. The Brother tool change is still faster (.9 seconds tool to tool on the new D-00 machines, 1.3 seconds chip to chip).
@@LumaLabs this is a super cool insight man, thanks for sharing. The numbers really are astounding when you mention that kind of volume they are doing daily and the time savings in just tool changes. Seeing the Speedio in person was one of the highlights of IMTS for me. Really impressed with them and how they are so purpose built, not a lot of wasted space or motion.
How good is it for 4041 or a500 steels?
I was in the market for just this machine... brother didn't answer emails. Maybe next time.
Huge miss. Can imagine a company just ghosting a prospective buyer willing to drop that much money.
My boss would murder me if I programmed that many tool changes, efficiency comes in many forms not just the ability to do a fast tool change
I think it’s mostly just as a demo, but yeah haha I could see that. 😂
The fast tool change is for mass production outfits who are doing hundreds of thousands of parts a shift. Right now is iPhone season, so Apple is machining about 1 Million iPhone 14s per day. With ~16 tool per, the 0.2 second chip-to-chip advantage on the new Speedio saves 3.2 seconds per phone. At a million a day? That is 888 hours of machining time saved per day. There is a reason Apple (or their suppliers) own about 40,000 Speedios, and Brother builds as many of them per year as Haas builds CNC mills. They only seem niche because they mostly go into high-scale production facilities where they aren't as visible as your local job shop.
(Full disclosure, I own a Speedio and am the Yamazen Speedio sales/tech rep for the pacific northwest).
Do everything you can with every tool every time would make sense
Disclaimer: I own one. I've improved machining times dramatically by using more tools! When it only costs 1 sec to change tools you start doing stuff like an adaptive with a huge tool, medium tool, small tool, then finish. Because I can push the medium tool harder, I more than save the tool change time!!
Also the rapids are so fast that when Fusion does something idiotic like dancing all around the part, instead of using an optimal order. Fixing this takes me time, and having done it I find it shaves like 0.5sec off the runtime....
Is the U500 simultaneous 5 axis?
Not yet. Brother is introducing simultaneous 5 axis with the M200; they are a company known for 100% reliability from release, so they take a cautious, incremental approach (the D-00 control was released on the W1000 over 18 months before the entire lineup was upgraded with it at IMTS). We expect the D-00v to be available as an option across the line in about a year or so (while the controls are identical, export controls mean Brother cannot make full 5 axis a field installed option).
If I come up filthy rich I won't tell anyone but you'll know.
Hahaha you know I’d do the same thing. I’ll take a couple of those.
Respected sir I am also into cnc grinding machine manufacturing industry where v install fanuc oitf plus series system and siemens system. I want to know if there's any platform for fanuc system commissioning knowledge along with glass scale enabling in fanuc and all please help me out sir???
I don’t know about FANUC systems for glass scales. I would imagine it is possible. I can answer questions for Centroid systems but have little knowledge of the Fanuc Controller. Perhaps someone here will see your comment and respond.
@@ericschneiter if u know any one or any platforms that r cheap for fanuc training plzz let me know. I m eagerly looking for help bcoz i m presently indulge in a project of three axis machine manufacturing with fanuc system plzz help sir ji
@@ericschneiter thanks a lot for ur response sir
is that a siemens controller?
no it's their own proprietary controller, loosely based off Fanuc (but much better than Fanuc)
Please reduce background noise in your videos.
I have 3 brother speedio,that better than funuc
They look amazing. Where are you located?
@@ericschneiter Taiwan,I used that to make space x”parts🤣
@@user-pj5ms8cm9c They are very capable. The right contract with a company like Spacex is my dream!
Your video Worth zero If you don't mention price
I’m sorry, there are many variations in the speedios and many times it requires a quote. Perhaps someone here can answer. I’d imagine they run 200K-300K ball park.
@@ericschneiter thanks
@@user-tz6jp7pq7y S300-S700 are all in the range of $150k, R450 and R650 are a little more just because of the pallet changer, I believe they are closer to $170k-$180k. Not sure about the M or U series, but probably $200k and up because of capability.
This is a glorified Robodrill. They are garbage - next to no rigidity.