I would love to see a ranking like this where an example of each builder is played live. Or if not live, show an excerpt of a video of one of that builder's mandolins being played.
Thank you for your list. You have been fair and informative. Helped me get some increased awareness of the names that are so expensive that I rarely have seen one for resale. I learned a lot.
There’s nobody I’d kick off your list, but some more adds (besides a bunch of other good’uns already mentioned): Rolfe Gerhardt - Phoenix (I’ve loved mine for 25 years.) Skip Peyre- Grey Eagle (Beautifully made-fit & finish and very responsive.) John Hutto - Never played one, but I fell in love with the sound of one or two I heard, and should have gotten on the waiting list.) - Paul
It depends on how you view the list. If it's a list of current builders, Monteleone doesn't really build mandolins any more. If it's a list of the 10 best all time builders, then yep, I'd put him on there.
I have just got to put in a plug for a local guy now retired from instrument making. LLoyd Laplant lives here in northers Minnesota. He built guitars based of the Martin Dreadnought and also Mandolins. Back in the day, I remember seeing a lot of his stuff being played by musicians performing in Nashville on TNN. Although I will never be able to afford one, I am proud to have had the pleasure of picking with him on many occasions. A true gentleman and one of the most humble peopl on the planet. I am always envious when I see someone with one of his guitars or mandolins. I know the guy who has the first mandolin LLoyd made (LLoyd cringes every time he sees it) and I have got to play LLoyd's personal Laplant Mandolin. What a Delight that is.
With Red Diamond’s and Gilchrist’s being veritable unicorns, Gibson moves to the top of the list because you can actually own one today. As a 30 year player owning several Weber, Northfield, Collings and Flatiron, I agree that Gibson’s are consistently the best. That dry Gibson tone just does it for me. Dave Harvey and crew are building future classics today.
I had a long chat with David Harvey at a workshop in Canada. I came away thinking "wow, there simply couldn't be anyone who knows more about Gibson mandolins". This was well before his tenure at Gibson. I knew only good things could come after I heard he'd become the head of the Gibson mandolin dept.
I have to say Nugget is one of the most knowledgeable builders out there. Easily on my Mount Rushmore of builders. He’s a treasure trove of the mandolin goods.
Where do Collings, Girouard, Summit, Nugget, Kimble rank? Waybe Henderson? Apitius? How about Skip Kelley? (I didn't get Weber ranked above Dudenbostel.) Cheers!
Agreed. Difficult list or impossible to do really. So many inredible luthiers dedicated to the mandolin. I asked the Santa Cruz people why they were not building mandolins, with it being so close to Richard Hoover's heart. Just don't have the time or resouces. Dang guitars.
Northfield blows so many of these brands out the water. They are consistent great examples out there and their price point isn't insane. I'll take my 4th Gen Northfield pretty over anything.
There’s a translucent green Paganoni on Reverb that I’ve been drooling over for a while. For some reason those green burst mandolins really do it for me.
I haven't play as many mandolins as these guys ... but the best one I ever got a hold of was a Gilchrist that Dave Wilson of the undergrass boys had . I remember that thin neck and that loud crisp even tone . Funny thing was , He liked my Fish because of the wider neck .. I liked thinner necks at the time.
Another note . Dave also had an original Gibson F5 he was selling. For a couple K .... (this was in the mid 80s, lot of money back then.) Man I wished I'd of bought it.. . Hindsight 20/20.. 😊
Here’s one you have probably never heard of: Billy Davis out of a dot of a town Douglass Ks. Hard to find but excellent workmanship and tone you have to hear to believe. We have #7
You guys have to check out Ratliff mandolins. Audie builds them in Churchhill, Tennessee in batches of 10 and they’re affordable by the average, hard-working broke Americans
With all the brands in the world, it can be hard for us to get our hands on all of them, especially if they haven’t made their way through our store. One day we hope to check them out!
As a acoustic guitar player mandolins look like so much fun. Perhaps I'm due for a new skill set. The wife over my shoulder like was the Martin not enough.
I started on the guitar first but tried the mandolin in my late 40's. It is such an amazing instrument. The layout of the scale is much more logical for my brain. I got further faster on the mandolin than I ever did on the guitar. It is in a different sonic space though so not a substitute for guitar at all.
Wondered about Collings also. Are they still building them , though? They also seemed to have dropped the Waterloo guitar line as well. COVID was a killer of business for sure.
I don’t think Waterloo has been discontinued since their website is still current. I have heard that they were just putting more focus on the Collings brand.
I am a little biased as Bruce Weber is a friend and I have two of his builds. I agree there are many great builders out there. Too many great mandolins and way too little money. George in Montana
Curious to hear your thoughts on vintage (prewar) vs. high end modern mandolins. To contextualize my question, I'm a guitar player and occasionally dabble with other stringed instruments. Stumbled onto a good deal about 10 years ago and purchased a 1925 Maurer (Larson Bros) flatback. I enjoy playing it, but unlike vintage guitars, I don't have enough background to comparatively judge the quality of this instrument (note: it's in really good condition).
Honestly that would be really hard to compare to a hand-carved mandolin from any era. We say that if you're enjoying playing it, that's really all that matters!
I'd have to say Andrew Mowry out of Bend Or is one of the best. But a great list nonetheless. The ne plus ultra of the mandolin is certainly Red Diamond.
When it comes to boutique mandolins, it can be hard to find a place that has more than just a few. We have many on order from companies featured in this video so we're definitely on the way to being a store that folks can sample a wide variety from: www.theacousticshoppe.com/shop/Instruments/Mandolins.htm That said, you can try to sample mandolins at bluegrass festivals or jams in your area. That honestly can be a great way to try all kinds of brands and varieties, that is where we've tried most of the brands mentioned in this video 😅 Hope this helps!
A lot of us agree that outside of a Loar, a Gil is the Holy Grail of F5 mandolins. Also, "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's hard to read". - Groucho Marx
@@f5mando funny story i went to Rosine ky to the barn for the first time and i was standing outside listening ,and i kept hearing a mandolin chopping and it sounded out of time ,finally turning to notice someone clear across the parking lot behind the store playing by himself i introduced my self and he did i ask what are you playing and it was a Gil one of the best ithink i ever heard 3 years later i was in nashville at afrinds playing and Aubrey Hauney pulled out a mandolin and started playing it i was blown away i i told him i have only heard 1 other mandolin that sounds that good and told him this tory of the other guy and he said i just bought this from him! true story
The reason is that "the guy on the left", although he's playing a mandolin here, is actually a guitar player, which means that he's naturally inclined to "talk over" *real* musicians... 🙂
Check our one of the most promising new to the scene builders, The Thomas McGiil 3-point f 45 style mandolins They have an unbelievable depth, tone and sustain This is a very precision professional instrument ! His Prior history of high quality furnisher building prepared him for his expert building of the mandolin , that in my opinion surpasses the sound of many of the so named high end instruments
More Canadian input. Apitius Mandolin Co, Mulmur, Ontario. Sohn Stringed Instruments, British Columbia, Ian Pattison Instruments, Wellington County Ontario.
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Not sure why you both decided to hold two Pac Rim mandolins that probably wouldn’t be seen on anyone’s Top 20 mandolin list while discussing top-tier world class mandolins. It was like watching two guys holding a Bud and a Miller while discussing top-tier craft beers. That said, it’s a given that a list like this is going to be subjective, and I think that you succeeded in showing what a golden age of mandolin building we’re in, given all the other builders (e.g., Heiden, Apitius, Duff, Smart, Austin Clark, Kremnitzer (Nugget), Sobell, Ruhland) in addition to your ten who also could be named to a Top 10 list.
We consider Eastman probably the best option in its price range, but they wouldn't fit my definition of a top 10 builder. In fact we only carry two out of this Top 10 list, as they are mostly building in such small quantities that they are selling direct, or not opening new dealers. I still love what they are doing. That said, Eastman averages $1200 - $1800, whereas most of these mandolins in this list are in the $9,000-$25,000 range.
You guys have great "ears" and you think through your opinions. You rightly included Gibson and placed it toward the top in terms of sound production. On those grounds Gilchrist definitely tops the list. But I know of one professional player who dumped his Gilchrist claiming that the sound production had degraded rather than improved with time and playing. Steve Hinde confirmed that sound production does NOT automatically improve with time and playing but can degrade. As you guys know not all Loars have equally impressive sound production and some are dead in the water. Time and playing have not and cannot improve the sound production of a wooden box. Red Diamond is another absolutely outstanding copy of Gibson. BUT I cannot fathom including Weber anywhere on this list. Maybe I'm missing something but I've never heard much depth of tone in a Weber compared to other boutique or independent builders. I was surprised that Kimble didn't make the cut - I've played / heard several Fs but even an A that had a remarkably rich tone with volume to match. Did you factor into your list CONSISTENCY of sound production? I played a Dudenbostel at Carters and was shocked by the underwhelming tone quality. No, strings wouldn't make any difference. I'd like to hear another rating of the rest of the independent / boutique mandolins not included in this first list. Steve Hinde has taken the bold move of making the bodies of his mandolins 1/8" deeper than the original Gibson which everyone else copies. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks for the feedback, it's nice to read through your thoughts! We definitely agree that we left out a couple names that couldn't quite fit, but hey we may have to make a top 15 or top 20 video to fit them all 😅. We did try to factor in consistency but we were mostly going off of our experience with each model. I can say we have been huge fans recently of Weber, their quality has really stepped up. Thanks again for the reply, it's great to hear what community members have to say!
I have an old Rigel G110 that is pretty unique. (OK, by unique, I mean funny looking) Also, a Ratliff F style, Which doesn't look unique. Although maybe the name is.
When I was first looking and limited with a budget like that, I got a Rover RM-75; had the saddle upgraded to a deer antler by Rosa String Works. It's a very satisfactory instrument. Take a look. Even came with a very nice hardshell case. Disregard any talk of it being 'good for beginners'... it's not a toy.
@@pmscalisi You're welcome - you can even find them used: watch for the shape of the headstock, not all have the classic Gibson-like "Florentine" F-style cut. Good luck, hope you end up with something you really like.
Yep. I did an thorough A-B comparison between a well-played Gilchrist and a brand new Collings MF-5 and I preferred the Collings, no question. Every Collings I've played has stood out. Three other builders I think they missed are Stiver, Old Wave (Bill Bussman) and Apitius.
No Heiden? No Nugget? So many other great luthiers missing, too numerous to mention t,t easily could be considered "top ten" builders. But Heiden and Nugget most egregious omissions.
Putting current new Gibson above Ellis is laughable! I guess you need to sell those, lol… Shills… If #1,2,3 is not in no particular order Gilchrist, Dude, Ellis get back in the wood shed! ASAP! What a joke…
My man done spelled it Gilchirst. 😂 you guys are awesome! Great video as always!
I would love to see a ranking like this where an example of each builder is played live. Or if not live, show an excerpt of a video of one of that builder's mandolins being played.
just go to a mandolin store and play them all
record it and upload it in youtube app
Thanks for including my Dudenbostel #2 and Loar headstocks at the 5:00 mark. I miss the Loar but the Dude gets it done.
Dudes are good mandolins and way overpriced. No way is a Dude worth more than a Gil.
Awesome video guys! Love the attention to detail
Thank you for your list. You have been fair and informative. Helped me get some increased awareness of the names that are so expensive that I rarely have seen one for resale. I learned a lot.
I waited and wait and still didn’t know what are the top 10.
There’s nobody I’d kick off your list, but some more adds (besides a bunch of other good’uns already mentioned):
Rolfe Gerhardt - Phoenix (I’ve loved mine for 25 years.)
Skip Peyre- Grey Eagle (Beautifully made-fit & finish and very responsive.)
John Hutto - Never played one, but I fell in love with the sound of one or two I heard, and should have gotten on the waiting list.)
- Paul
I always loved the tone of Dempsy Young's Hutto mandolin. -Jeremy
Jeremy, with your experience and talent with mandolins, who the hell can argue with you. Keep on smiling.
Surprised McClanahan and Monteleone didn't make the list. Thanks for the video and discussion.
I think McClanahan is more smoke than fire. He is a great self promoter but there are some amateurish shortcomings in his building process.
Very surprised about Monteleone.
It depends on how you view the list. If it's a list of current builders, Monteleone doesn't really build mandolins any more. If it's a list of the 10 best all time builders, then yep, I'd put him on there.
I have just got to put in a plug for a local guy now retired from instrument making. LLoyd Laplant lives here in northers Minnesota. He built guitars based of the Martin Dreadnought and also Mandolins. Back in the day, I remember seeing a lot of his stuff being played by musicians performing in Nashville on TNN. Although I will never be able to afford one, I am proud to have had the pleasure of picking with him on many occasions. A true gentleman and one of the most humble peopl on the planet. I am always envious when I see someone with one of his guitars or mandolins. I know the guy who has the first mandolin LLoyd made (LLoyd cringes every time he sees it) and I have got to play LLoyd's personal Laplant Mandolin. What a Delight that is.
With Red Diamond’s and Gilchrist’s being veritable unicorns, Gibson moves to the top of the list because you can actually own one today. As a 30 year player owning several Weber, Northfield, Collings and Flatiron, I agree that Gibson’s are consistently the best. That dry Gibson tone just does it for me. Dave Harvey and crew are building future classics today.
I had a long chat with David Harvey at a workshop in Canada. I came away thinking "wow, there simply couldn't be anyone who knows more about Gibson mandolins". This was well before his tenure at Gibson. I knew only good things could come after I heard he'd become the head of the Gibson mandolin dept.
I have to say Nugget is one of the most knowledgeable builders out there. Easily on my Mount Rushmore of builders. He’s a treasure trove of the mandolin goods.
Absolutely agree. My Nugget A style is my lifetime mandolin
Where do Collings, Girouard, Summit, Nugget, Kimble rank? Waybe Henderson? Apitius? How about Skip Kelley? (I didn't get Weber ranked above Dudenbostel.) Cheers!
Collings deserves a spot amongst the "best"... especially considering Gibson is on there.
Agreed. Difficult list or impossible to do really. So many inredible luthiers dedicated to the mandolin. I asked the Santa Cruz people why they were not building mandolins, with it being so close to Richard Hoover's heart. Just don't have the time or resouces. Dang guitars.
@@quigley4440 (f style) Mandolins are like 3x the work for 1/20 (at most) the market, truly is a work of passion for the luthiers who do them...
Collings is my fave
Northfield blows so many of these brands out the water. They are consistent great examples out there and their price point isn't insane. I'll take my 4th Gen Northfield pretty over anything.
I came here to write this. Love my big mon
There’s a translucent green Paganoni on Reverb that I’ve been drooling over for a while. For some reason those green burst mandolins really do it for me.
Great list. McClanahan should probably be in there somewhere.
I haven't play as many mandolins as these guys ... but the best one I ever got a hold of was a Gilchrist that Dave Wilson of the undergrass boys had . I remember that thin neck and that loud crisp even tone . Funny thing was , He liked my Fish because of the wider neck .. I liked thinner necks at the time.
Another note . Dave also had an original Gibson F5 he was selling. For a couple K .... (this was in the mid 80s, lot of money back then.) Man I wished I'd of bought it.. .
Hindsight 20/20.. 😊
Jerry Rosa. He doesn't built them anymore but they have a sound like no other.
He's stopped making guitars, but I don't think he's completely ruled out building more mandos.
There's dozens of mandolin builders' there's no 2 instruments that sounds the same.
I thought Nugget and Monteleone would surely be on the list.
The Canadian maritimes have two top notch luthiers that makes an awesome mandoline. Leblanc and Josee. Thought I would just give them a holler!
How do you find any of there work or mandos for sale?? Thanks
And its dad that Elmo is gone
Sad
Steve Sorensen in So. Cal. Builds some dream instruments.
Thanks for the props, boys!
Love my Pava....very good and affordable.......a deeper dive into her story might be interesting ;^ )
Affordable? Her satin F5 is $8K
@@andyorr1597 I got mine a few years ago, before the pandemic, and it is a simple A style, no bells or whistles.......
Collings, Nugget, Daley :)
My top 5:
1. Heiden
2. Gilchrist
3. Dudenbostel
4. Monteleone
5. Red Diamond (or Ellis! hard to pick!)
Nice list!
Here’s one you have probably never heard of: Billy Davis out of a dot of a town Douglass Ks. Hard to find but excellent workmanship and tone you have to hear to believe. We have #7
Way to go, Gilchrist! (we put prawns on the Barbie here !)
Have you guys ever tried Crosby mandolins ? he’s a builder here in Nova Scotia he also builds guitars I see Josh Williams playing a Crosby guitar
Any thoughts on the Anton Krutz mandolin?
I dig your attention to the mandolin details - but you spelled Gilchrist incorrectly when the slide for #1 surfaced.....
Guess I'll wait for Jeremy's mandolin book before I decide. Thank
You guys have to check out Ratliff mandolins. Audie builds them in Churchhill, Tennessee in batches of 10 and they’re affordable by the average, hard-working broke Americans
We'll have to check him out!
@@AcousticShoppe
YOU HAVE MADE THAT STATMENT BEFORE **BUT NO ACTION***DR KEL
With all the brands in the world, it can be hard for us to get our hands on all of them, especially if they haven’t made their way through our store. One day we hope to check them out!
As a acoustic guitar player mandolins look like so much fun. Perhaps I'm due for a new skill set. The wife over my shoulder like was the Martin not enough.
I started on the guitar first but tried the mandolin in my late 40's. It is such an amazing instrument. The layout of the scale is much more logical for my brain. I got further faster on the mandolin than I ever did on the guitar. It is in a different sonic space though so not a substitute for guitar at all.
I’d say Nugget, Anton Krutz, and Triggs as well.
I love my Collings so much!
Anticipation ❤
Wondered about Collings also. Are they still building them , though? They also seemed to have dropped the Waterloo guitar line as well. COVID was a killer of business for sure.
I don’t think Waterloo has been discontinued since their website is still current. I have heard that they were just putting more focus on the Collings brand.
I live half a mile from Collings. They do still make incredible mandolins
@@bkpeary I would be so wantonly miserable living so close to such masterful instruments and can't afford anything inside!! LOL!!!but I hope you can!
The best? - the luthier who hand-carved and built my mandolin (copy of Gibson A1) has got to be up there - Mark Hickman, on the Isle of Wight 👍👍👍👍👍
Love the vid; interesting typo
You nailed # 1 and 2 The best of the best......................joe
Nugget
Ratcliff
Collings
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I am a little biased as Bruce Weber is a friend and I have two of his builds. I agree there are many great builders out there. Too many great mandolins and way too little money. George in Montana
10. Krishot 9. Paganoni 8. Dudenbostel 7. Randy Wood 6. Aleyas 5. Weber 4. Ellis 3. Gibson 2. Red Diamond 1. Gilchrist
Curious to hear your thoughts on vintage (prewar) vs. high end modern mandolins. To contextualize my question, I'm a guitar player and occasionally dabble with other stringed instruments. Stumbled onto a good deal about 10 years ago and purchased a 1925 Maurer (Larson Bros) flatback. I enjoy playing it, but unlike vintage guitars, I don't have enough background to comparatively judge the quality of this instrument (note: it's in really good condition).
Honestly that would be really hard to compare to a hand-carved mandolin from any era. We say that if you're enjoying playing it, that's really all that matters!
I'd have to say Andrew Mowry out of Bend Or is one of the best. But a great list nonetheless. The ne plus ultra of the mandolin is certainly Red Diamond.
You've got to have a look at Capek mandolins out of the Czech Republic.
Clark Mandolins. Boise ID. I know he made an octave for Sierra Hull and his French varnish finish is outstanding.
What stores can you go to to sample mandolins?
When it comes to boutique mandolins, it can be hard to find a place that has more than just a few. We have many on order from companies featured in this video so we're definitely on the way to being a store that folks can sample a wide variety from: www.theacousticshoppe.com/shop/Instruments/Mandolins.htm
That said, you can try to sample mandolins at bluegrass festivals or jams in your area. That honestly can be a great way to try all kinds of brands and varieties, that is where we've tried most of the brands mentioned in this video 😅 Hope this helps!
Ok I agree on number 1 lol
A lot of us agree that outside of a Loar, a Gil is the Holy Grail of F5 mandolins. Also, "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's hard to read". - Groucho Marx
THE BEST MANDOLIN BUILDER IN THE WORLD IS AUDREY RATTIFF
CHECK HIM OUT*-*HE BUILDS 12 MANDOLINS AT A TIME ****DR KEL
@@f5mando funny story i went to Rosine ky to the barn for the first time and i was standing outside listening ,and i kept hearing a mandolin chopping and it sounded out of time ,finally turning to notice someone clear across the parking lot behind the store playing by himself i introduced my self and he did i ask what are you playing and it was a Gil one of the best ithink i ever heard
3 years later i was in nashville at afrinds playing and Aubrey Hauney pulled out a mandolin and started playing it i was blown away i i told him i have only heard 1 other mandolin that sounds that good and told him this tory of the other guy and he said i just bought this from him! true story
why does the guy on the left with the squeaky voice always talk over the other one. it is uncomfortable to watch.
Ha! You win for the funniest comment, sir!
The reason is that "the guy on the left", although he's playing a mandolin here, is actually a guitar player, which means that he's naturally inclined to "talk over" *real* musicians... 🙂
My guess is that some things in life size matters. Especially with brothers.
That's unkind.
@@bkreed27 Why? My big brother was always pounding on me and I would get caught retaliating. He would just laugh and make me even madder.
Washburn/Lyon & Healy are amazing. Lots of Italian boutique builders as good as these.
Northfield Artist top five at least. I played a Gilchrist for over half an hour. My Northfield very close and 6k not 30k
Let's face it. Given a proper set up they're all pretty close.
Check our one of the most promising new to the scene builders, The Thomas McGiil 3-point f 45 style mandolins They have an unbelievable depth, tone and sustain This is a very precision professional instrument ! His Prior history of high quality furnisher building prepared him for his expert building of the mandolin , that in my opinion surpasses the sound of many of the so named high end instruments
You can get a run of instruments in the same line being built some sound like heavens bells and the next one just wont work 😢😊
How about Northfield Instruments?
More Canadian input. Apitius Mandolin Co, Mulmur, Ontario. Sohn Stringed Instruments, British Columbia, Ian Pattison Instruments, Wellington County Ontario.
Larry Muth in Regina! Muth mandos are excellent and very reasonably priced.
" Gilchirst" is No 1 of course.......classic typo guys. Google set me straight though..phew!
Triggs deserves a mention in my opinion
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I have krishot #201 from 1999, it's awesome, needed some quality setup...but after it's great
Steve Hinde, Pava, Apitius
Hinde is second to none. I’ve played a lot of mandolins, including a Gilchrist.
Not sure why you both decided to hold two Pac Rim mandolins that probably wouldn’t be seen on anyone’s Top 20 mandolin list while discussing top-tier world class mandolins. It was like watching two guys holding a Bud and a Miller while discussing top-tier craft beers.
That said, it’s a given that a list like this is going to be subjective, and I think that you succeeded in showing what a golden age of mandolin building we’re in, given all the other builders (e.g., Heiden, Apitius, Duff, Smart, Austin Clark, Kremnitzer (Nugget), Sobell, Ruhland) in addition to your ten who also could be named to a Top 10 list.
At :23 seconds b "O" tique.
Have you never tried Hinde mandoliins????????
Yes, we have carried a few of them before!
Red Diamond is what I think of as tops
Yeah, where is Kimble?
Is it Gilchrist or Gilchirst?
It is Gilchrist
My guess before I watch is Eastman?
You would think that would be it as much focus as they put on that brand.
We decided to stick with smaller team, specialty mandolin builders as opposed to mass produced ones for this list!
We consider Eastman probably the best option in its price range, but they wouldn't fit my definition of a top 10 builder. In fact we only carry two out of this Top 10 list, as they are mostly building in such small quantities that they are selling direct, or not opening new dealers. I still love what they are doing. That said, Eastman averages $1200 - $1800, whereas most of these mandolins in this list are in the $9,000-$25,000 range.
You guys have great "ears" and you think through your opinions. You rightly included Gibson and placed it toward the top in terms of sound production. On those grounds Gilchrist definitely tops the list. But I know of one professional player who dumped his Gilchrist claiming that the sound production had degraded rather than improved with time and playing. Steve Hinde confirmed that sound production does NOT automatically improve with time and playing but can degrade. As you guys know not all Loars have equally impressive sound production and some are dead in the water. Time and playing have not and cannot improve the sound production of a wooden box. Red Diamond is another absolutely outstanding copy of Gibson. BUT I cannot fathom including Weber anywhere on this list. Maybe I'm missing something but I've never heard much depth of tone in a Weber compared to other boutique or independent builders. I was surprised that Kimble didn't make the cut - I've played / heard several Fs but even an A that had a remarkably rich tone with volume to match. Did you factor into your list CONSISTENCY of sound production? I played a Dudenbostel at Carters and was shocked by the underwhelming tone quality. No, strings wouldn't make any difference. I'd like to hear another rating of the rest of the independent / boutique mandolins not included in this first list. Steve Hinde has taken the bold move of making the bodies of his mandolins 1/8" deeper than the original Gibson which everyone else copies. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks for the feedback, it's nice to read through your thoughts! We definitely agree that we left out a couple names that couldn't quite fit, but hey we may have to make a top 15 or top 20 video to fit them all 😅. We did try to factor in consistency but we were mostly going off of our experience with each model. I can say we have been huge fans recently of Weber, their quality has really stepped up. Thanks again for the reply, it's great to hear what community members have to say!
Northfield mandolins should definitely be high on this list.
What about Eastman
Mr. Oliver Apitius. Shelburne, Ontario.
One of the first 15 Gibson made Flatirons that Bruce Weber made was better than the Gilchrist I played.
Robert L Givens.
Haha you spelled "Gilchrist" wrong.
I have an old Rigel G110 that is pretty unique. (OK, by unique, I mean funny looking) Also, a Ratliff F style, Which doesn't look unique. Although maybe the name is.
18:03 Really? I thought you could fit more onto a top 10 list?! :-
Are there any decent mandos under $500? Mandos are so expensive.
Honestly it can be hard to find especially for an F-Style because of all the labor that goes into the carving
When I was first looking and limited with a budget like that, I got a Rover RM-75;
had the saddle upgraded to a deer antler by Rosa String Works. It's a very satisfactory instrument. Take a look. Even came with a very nice hardshell case. Disregard any talk of it being 'good for beginners'... it's not a toy.
@@FunsongsMusicByPeterRahill thanks.
@@pmscalisi You're welcome - you can even find them used: watch for the shape of the headstock, not all have the classic Gibson-like "Florentine" F-style cut.
Good luck, hope you end up with something you really like.
People poo-poo "The Loar" mandos because the name is pretentious. But they make decent mando for about $500.
I would have Dudes in top 3
Paul Duff...the "other" Australian builder. None better.
Agree, he built two for me. One is an F4 copy. Love it so much.
I'll go with whatever Sierra is playing.... that's #1
All of we guitar players need left handed units. Dang chords are upside down and backward guitar chords.
None of this matters is what he said at the end lol…truth at last , Gibson is there , but not Apitius , Collings , Hieden !! 😂
HOW DID YOU MISS THE BEST OF THE BEST BUILDERS***AUDREY RATTIFF***DR KEL
Rick Hayes mandolins.
You guys know better than to not mention Hinde.
Hieden
They all learned from Gibson and Lloyd Loar.
Hmm...Collings and Nugget were big misses.
Yep. I did an thorough A-B comparison between a well-played Gilchrist and a brand new Collings MF-5 and I preferred the Collings, no question. Every Collings I've played has stood out. Three other builders I think they missed are Stiver, Old Wave (Bill Bussman) and Apitius.
Spare us the clickbait title. Everyone will believe #1. Fun video tho.
No Heiden? No Nugget? So many other great luthiers missing, too numerous to mention t,t easily could be considered "top ten" builders. But Heiden and Nugget most egregious omissions.
Who cares about so-called "boutique builders"?! I'm interested (we're interested) in how Collings, compares to Bourgeois, compares to Gibson.
Perhaps you need to tell whoever types your captions to pay MORE ATTENTION TO DETAIL! "botique"? "Gilchirst"? Give us a break!
OK, you can take a break anytime 😊
@@AcousticShoppe Thanks. I needed that! 😎
Weber was too inconsistent.
Two Old hippies destroyed brands
Putting current new Gibson above Ellis is laughable! I guess you need to sell those, lol… Shills…
If #1,2,3 is not in no particular order Gilchrist, Dude, Ellis get back in the wood shed! ASAP!
What a joke…
And as mentioned no Kimble but Weber, lol…. Jokers, please get a clue before spewing your nonsense
And no Collings?!?! Lol, god I hope no one listens to this!