The ULTIMATE Mandolin Triangle Pick COMPARISON
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- Well, that's a whole mess of picks! Let me know in the comments below which pick you like best! Links to all these below.
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Nice try, but David Grisman started using the rounded pick so when he polymorphed into an eagle to play mandolin in the sky he would have less wind resistance. Also, try holding a triangular pick with an eagle talon, it's impossible, but the slippery rounded edges of a perfect circle fit comfortably in the grasp of any eagle. Anyway, great video! Any plans for a lesson on Grey Eagle? Like how to get to the Grey Eagle in Asheville? I always get lost.
Very good info, never thought about that. Unfortunately I still squawk like a baby seagull and my webbed feet struggle to hold the rounded picks. So for now I'll go with a triangular style. Perhaps I will make the switch back once I'm a true bird of prey.
I just started learning the mandolin. I have begun with the Clown Barf pick. Looking forward to trying the others. 👍
13:30 Casein (pronounced "Kay-seen" in the plastics industry, and "Kay-see-un" in biology) is an older natural plastic material derived from the same cow's milk protein that's in casein protein supplement powders. It's long been considered a great substitute for tortoise-shell plectra. Still not vegan friendly (for those interested), but probably saved more than a few endangered tortoises. Also, not terribly difficult to make at home.
I never even knew there were mandolin picks. I've been using my old fashioned guitar picks. I'm going to order one each of these and give them a try. Some of these picks cost more than my mandolin! 😂
I could not have "picked" a better pick comparison video more suited to my personal taste. Thank you for this video!
I wish I had your channel when I first started learning my mando some 30 years ago.... But I'm still learning from you everyday!! I recommend your videos to any of my friends who are even REMOTELY interested in learning this little instrument. Thank you SO MUCH DB for all of the helpful tips. I hope you continue to put out all these videos for all them youngins just getting into the mando... LOL
- AMG
Ah, thanks so much! Really means a lot know that folks are enjoying these videos!
This is best pick demonstration I've ever seen!! Great work David as always!!!
Such high quality video production and knowledge!!! Deserves so much more recognition!!
Thank goodness DB didn’t get into the tricky part- emotional attachment to picks.
Those of us who have crawled under porches, turned couches inside out, and felt it necessary to call in the Emergency Response Team to locate a well beloved tiny piece of plastic just couldn’t bear to listen to any part of it.
Pete: You need to call my special pick intervention hot line.
I tried. The computer said the wait time was longer than my shrink’s.
Hi Peter, it is a shame for me but I've lost one of my Blue Chip picks at a scouts meeting. Lots of parents laughed at me going over the grounds many times. Finally one of the dads got seriously into mandolin. He was gifted a pick and he came to me and apologized for his past comments. Now he realizes why and I just laughed , too !
@@paullanier8280 Hi Paul. Next time, horror of horrors, you lose an emotionally laden pick, try the Remington Special Pick Intervention Hot Line.
Bob Remington’s handpicked team of pick loss counsellors are always on standby. The counsellors are also specially trained in advanced pick retrieval techniques. For example, they may ask you helpful questions like ‘when did you last see it’?
I also found that the Red Bear had a distinct sound difference when playing tremolo or melody. Each note seemed to be more distinct with that pick. It may get on a Xmas list for someone looking to get me something I wouldn't buy for myself :)
Awesome Xmas present!
I’ve played with a red bear for years. Also have the blue chip… I bounce back and forth, but probably prefer the red bear
I agree, the red bears have a distinct amount of midrange to the tone that really speaks when playing lines.
The Dunlop has a very similar EQ only with less volume/ density to the sound.
I've always used the Golden Gate x-stiff in tortoise up until about a month ago when I tried the Dunlop primetone 1.4! Great picks
Nice to see you do the droptest. Gives a lot of info about the material. Also I think this whole issue is on the triangle which means in theory there's one best pick for an instrument. But then what sound do you want. For bluegrass you like bright, for classical more mellow (I heard CT on his Loar with a Bluechip playing Chaconne, way to bright sound in IMHO)
I used the blue Martin Henze for a while (with 3 holes drilled in it of course) but I'm back to my own 1,5 red Delrin for most instruments. But not all...
Thank you SO much for this video! I have a vintage bowlback which is my first stringed instrument. I have borrowed a few picks from guitar players I know. But none felt right. I appreciate the help in selection and I believe you have a video on how to hold it correctly. Very helpful for those of us new to mandolin--esp those new to strings in general!
Very cool idea. Thank you for doing this, David. Hat doffed on perfect match comparisons back to back. You make it look easy!
I like the BC and the clown barf. I use a TPR60, with a Pro Plek back-up, but I'd give that GG clown barf a go, too. I'm not surprised to hear that you've adopted it!
Really well put together video, thanks. For me The casein has replaced my BC which had replaced my wegen. Have prime tones and proplecs for backups. I’m Unfamiliar with clownbarf. Never thought I’d type that last sentence in my life. lol
This was fun! I've gone through a couple over the years and mostly settled on the Blue Chip on my f-hole mandolin and the Primetone on my flat top (Big Muddy) mandolin. I'm really curious about the Golden Gates, though, and I LOVE the look of them, they're just sold out every time I look for them.
I used for many years in the past Saga Golden Gate picks...after I tried all these picks, at the end today (and froma lot of years) I use D'Andrea Pro Plecs one and I love it !
Awesome! The hero's journey complete!
Thanks, best test I've ever seen so far 😀
Ditto on Primetones. I use them to try new shapes. If I like the shape, I'll get a Blue Chip in that shape, and keep the Primetones as backup. I'm not sure if it's mentioned, but I have 3 Blue Chips that I've played for over 2 years and they just have light surface scratches. No real wear at all. If you can keep up with them, they're a winning investment.
I liked that Casein pick! I need to source one of those to try.
Nice! Yeah, all these picks I think are great options!
Fantastic video David! I love this geeky stuff. 😀
Great video, especially appreciate all the comparisons together at the end. I recently switched from round picks to triangle. Initially got the Prime Tone, and then splashed out on the Thile casein pick which I love, though I’m glad to have spare cheaper picks (my upcoming gigs are on a canal boat so I’m a little scared of dropping it overboard!)
Glad it was helpful!
I've settled on the Dunlop Prime Tone 1.3s. Great video, Thanks.
This really was the ultimate mandolin pick picking session!
I have a feeling my little bag of mandolin pics are gonna be worth more than my second mandolin. Lol definitely more than my first.
I use a dunlop jazztone 207 round tip. It is about a 2.3mm. I lose a little in volume, but for tremolo and smooth tone.And its fast. I find it unbeatable.
Nice! Gotta try one of those
David, I honestly could tell a nucleus worth of difference in any of them. I listened with skull candy buds. For the price, I'll go with the Dunlop Prime tone in 1.4 mm. I use a 1.3 of some brand. I'm not a pro, so they are satisfactory to me for decent enough sound.
me too. dawg picks are tone killers and too big
Red Bear sounds great.
Dunlop is the best value.
Thanks for the vid!
Well done David on a thoroughly interesting subject. It's all subjective of course, but it's Wegen for me. 😉
Good choice!
It's Wegen & Primetone for me, with a lil bit of clown barf now & then. FWIW, I've had the most good tone compliments with the Wegen. Great comparison video, thank you! And had to laugh cuz I wore that same shirt today 😁🤣👍
Good shirt, right? Thanks for watching!
My same two faves.
I love my Dawg. Plus I've always been a David Grisman fan. I have a Golden Gate that's a bit smaller that I like, too.
So many triangle picks to choose from! At the moment, I'm mostly playing a Gravity Gold Series 1.5 mm Striker and a Hawk 1.4 mm Tonebird 10. Following your recommendation, I'll try to find the Clown Barf pick.
Join the the club!!!
Great review, David; thanks! Any thoughts about the D'Addario Acrylux Nitra Mandolin Picks?
Thank you ☮️
Have you considered making a plectrum video about your favorites that Chirp the least? 😎
I used a pick I invented at a gig and the other (better) guitarist wanted to know what effect I used on that set. I hid it in my pocket. Later I found that patents are rare for picks and my new design can't be patented either. I like your comparison and hope to find a way to market my pick. I think D'addiario has market potential. Excellent video presentation. Thanks.
excellent resource, well done
I like Dunlop 1.3 with the textured center and rounded edges.I sand e bevel using 400 grit sandpaper.
Two years later still super useful! Regarding the red bear big picker H, they sell a bunch of different configurations of this pick. Maybe clarify which one you used in the test?
Nice job with that...Helpful. I am a pretty loyal ProPlec player and I was surprised that there were no other ProPlec advocates in the comments. For me, it gets the mellowest sound of the group and, as mandolins are bright by nature, I think a soft, mellow pick is the best option. The side by side comparison bore that out, at least to my ears.
Glad it helped! So many good pick options out there!
Pro Plec's had a very nice tone for me too, definitely mellow and smooth, but the feel of it in the hand and off the strings for me was a deal breaker. They are my least favorite of all the picks I have tried. Not bad picks, just not for me.
When I bought the Wigan TF140 it was such an upgrade over the other cheap similar-thickness picks. Almost no pick noise, good grip, great string glide. I’m inexperienced in the pick dept. but the Wigan opened a new door for me. I’ll never go back to a thick guitar pick! This is a great video…
I agree on the Clown Barf. I have one of the originals and recently started using it again.
Interesting to see so much consensus on the clown-barf. Think it sounds any different that the other colors offered? (only half joking, since I've played with the mock tortoise version of that pick for years).
The color definitely makes all the difference 😆
I don't know if you can find them in the US but my current favorite is the HAWK Tonebird 5 ... worthy of comparison with any of these.
I am a guitar player going mandolin. For feel, I just stick to the thick dunlop Jazz III gator grip picks I have been using for guitar for years, but after this video I started experimenting with 2.0mm bass stubbys i have lying around for my bass. Cool vid.
Nice! Glad this video was helpful!
Great video, very informative. I have bought so many different picks of different thicknesses over the years, I have a 2mm thick bone pick that sounds very bright and is great for tremolo, but no matter which one I use, I have a problem stopping the pick from spinning round until I almost drop it, it’s difficult repositioning it whilst playing, any tips or advice extremely welcome, thanks in advance - Happy New Year 2024
i use the Dunlop 1.3 triangle pick on Guitar, Bass and Mandolin, it's my ultimate weapon. Greatings from Italy!
I think it's worth mentioning that one of the selling points for Blue Chips is that they basically last forever - whereas other picks on this list will need to be replaced. I'm sure some other picks also last for a long time - I can only speak from my experience with Blue Chip!
Agreed. I've worn out more than a couple of Golden Gates. Also lost a few over the years, which hurts a lot less when they only cost about 2 bucks a pick, instead of $40.
@@MiceNine9 True but you could buy many Golden Gates for the price of a single Blue Chip. Not really an advantage?
@Gryff Longdong I've actually worn my way through a couple of Primetones, believe it or not! They are definitely excellent picks, though.
I guess it all depends on the player and how much/hard you're playing each day, but I used to go through Bluechip picks in about every 3 months. I've found similar lifespans on other picks like Wegens and the Golden Gates too. I think picks are much like strings where you have to replace them at regular intervals no matter what material they're made of.
@@DavidBenedictMandolin fair enough - I guess this thread just goes to show that pick mileage will vary from player to player and pick to pick. Thanks for the great video!
Can you do a video comparing teardrop picks? Roland White talks about playing them on the side. What are your thoughts? LOVE your channel & became a Patreon member yesterday.
I just ordered a thirty dollar Chris Thile signature D’Addario pick. We shall see. I have the Prime Tone semi-round 1.3 grip Mando picks and so far I love em. Blue Chip? They’re not even blue! lol I probably will try some of those out next.
Just in case youre interested if you translate "Kunststoff" kinda literally ... with its origin in "künstlich" = artificial and "Stoff" = material "Kunststoff" basically means "artificial material" and yeah usually means some kind of plastic (although germans also use the word "Plastik" ) :D
And Casein material is actually made from Milk proteine thats kinda "bioplastic" like... you can use it as paint medium or as glue (often used to glue labels on bottles) and apperently also to make picks out of it... its a fascinating but actually quiet old material.
Awesome! Thanks for watching, and thanks for the info here! Happy picking!
I loved the tremolo sound of the wegen. Wonder if that comes in a soft touch texture?
you need to check out a Mike Marshall signature Apollo pick now to compare to these, love it!
Yeah! Apollo has a few picks that I'd like to try out!
I have used many of these picks over the years...I'm lucky, i work in a music store, so I can try all those that are available on the market rather easily. That being said,, the Wegen and BC are my go to picks, but I use a BC TAD60...1.5 MM, with a rounded edge, which gives a little darker tone, which is something I go for. One that I tried for a while was the Taylor Thermex rounded Triangle. Good feel, but REALLY dark sounding.
Awesome! Will have to try those Taylor picks!
I'm just using Dunlop big stub 2.0mm (also on guitar) and a sometime special Bone or Wood one.
I’ve been a using only Prime Tones for the last 3 years but now I want to try a Wegen pick
Yeah! One of my faves!
Wegens have such a smooth, round, scooped tone and for my money the pick with the least amount of "Pick Noise" when playing. They are my number 1 unless I need to get some more bark from a chop; then that more abrasive sound from other picks comes in handy.
@@TRONOFTHEDEAD exactly.....!
My favorite pick is the Clayton gold 80 triangle. I am going to try the blue chip.
I liked the wegen pick the best in this demo. I love triangular picks. I wish the TUSQ picks came in a triangle shape, for me those win for tone, grip and speed, wish they were triangular but those are the ones I tend to use. If I use a traingular I have the primetones also a very good pick
I use a Dunlap 1.3mm Vintage T- shell. They cost about a buck each. I have drilled a .375" hole in the center for a better grip. I don't know if the sound is changed from a straight pick, but it seems to sound fine to my ears.
That was cool! The new d’addario stole me away from a decade or so of wegen use, but as you say the journey never ends.
@@RustyMadd And casein is one of the oldest plastics in the world made of phospho-proteins from milk. There is a reason why it seems more like natural shell.
So true!
Been using some grip dunlops. Ordered some clown barfs to try. Not found a pick that I love how feels yet.
I currently use the Wegen M150. Was using blue chip tp150 but found is slipped around too much while playing. Have used the Wegen with the holes also but like the M150 better, in my hands the tremolo is smoother and it does not move around, rotate, in my hand while playing. Great video
Nice! Thanks for the recommendation here! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Can you make a more in depth video about these picks - and for example, in which situations - e.g., cross-picking, chopping, etc. when a mandolinist would prefer one over another? Thanks.
The good old celluloid is hard to beat when it comes to tone and feel. What's your opinion on metal picks?
I dropped the $$$ and didn't like it at first but once I got used to the different feeling compared to my favorite Dunlop, I don't want anything else. Go Red Bear!!!!
AWESOME!
I played a CT55 for a long time, moved over to the Wegen for a long time. But as of the past good while, I’ve been enthralled and intrigued by the more Monroe / Dawg / Compton esque angle of attack. Flattened my neck out and thus flattened the angle of attack. Playing a lot more double stops. SO, I’ve moved to more rounded picks. Went with the Wegen mandolin picks for a while, but have really settled into the John Reischman Red Bear pick. I believe it’s the Red Bear “E” style.
Nice! Yeah, Red Bear has a lot of great rounded pick options.
@@DavidBenedictMandolin yes! Love em!
Black Delrin and white Delrin are technically the same material but black has a colorant in it which is carbon and indeed should make it a bit more slippery because carbon is basically a lubricant (graphite) and probably changes the sound slightly
That tremolo montage was intense
I'm a Irish 10 String Cittern player
My 3.fav picks are First TAD100 Blue Chip Pick , 2.Dawg picks 3. Golden Gate.
Elderly Instruments still sell Dawg picks & Golden Gate.
Nice! Yeah, Elderly is a great spot for picks!
After watching the video I got the clown barfs which I do like for most playing. However, if I'm trying to play harmonics on the fifth fret (sounds two octaves above the open string) I feel like I get the best result with Dunlop Purple Tortex Sharps (1.14 mm).
Nice! Thanks for watching!
I've tried a lot of picks. A word of Caution if you ever pony up for that first BlueChip you will not go back and forever know there is no comparison. I just lost mine at my house and wince at the price of having to buy another. Hopefully I buy one and find one and have 2 again. They literally last me years until one fluke day I lose them.
I favor the Primetone. I own and really want to love the CT55 because I paid so much for it, but my CT55 is larger than the Primetone and doesn’t work for me. Blue Chip does make a smaller triangle that I might try it some day?
I didn't know any better and was using a regular guitar pick, but it sounded so muffled on the mandolin. I got a Casein pick to replace it and am really surprised by how improved the tone is with it!
Hi David, could you please state what is the largest external dimension of one of the specifications you showed in the video?
Or can you recommend a specification with an outer dimension significantly larger than 1.25 inches?
I use Prime Tones. Switch between the triangle and the rounded.
expertly put together pick comparison! Very well made and informative. Thanks
Much appreciated!
Is there any difference between the Golden Gate clown barf and the Golden Gate tortoise X-stiff?
Here’s a tip for anyone thinking of getting the Redbear pick. They give you a little tube of oil to apply to the pick occasionally. Make sure you do this. I left mine in a guitar case for a year without oiling it. When I pulled it out to use it after that it was dried out and warped. It’s pretty much useless now
Red Bear sounds the best for me in this comparison. I love Bluechip and Wegen, they are my favorite picks but now I have to figure out how to get a Red Bear in Europe. :-)
Good choice! You should contact Red Bear on their website to see if they'll ship to Europe!
@@DavidBenedictMandolin Thanks, I did exactly this, and yes they do ship to Europe. :-) Thanks again for the great comparison video.
Blue Chip makes a very nice pick. Worth the money.
A classic for sure!
What strings did you use?
What strings are you using in this demo?
I thought the Wegen made less "pick click" on the tremolo test, but the Dunlop was almost the same. They all sounded good on the chop and melody tests. The "drop test" sounded like a high-speed poker game. And who can live without something named "clown barf," whether you like the sound or not?
Awesome! Thanks for watching, John!
I have a quick question for you. Because of this video, I purchased the Golden gate pics. I've never used a pic while playing instruments, and I am completely blind, so unfortunately I can't see people's demonstrations. Do I want to pick with the sharpest point of the pic, or do I want the sharpest point between my thumb and index finger?
Lol guess I'm just lucky the Golden Gate X stiff was the first mandolin pick I bought. My local music store has them for $1.50 apiece, think I'm going to go buy a handful tomorrow.
Starting off with a good one!
Are you familiar with Zeb Snyder by any chance ? He’s amazing also 😊
I've been on a continuous quest for the "perfect" pick for years
At the moment I alternate between the Wegan triangular 1.4 and the rounded Wegan of the same thickness
Have to say, I was impressed by the D'Addario one
The problem with Blue Chip is it brings up the old mathematical formula-
The cost of the pick is directly related to your chances of losing it...
I use rounded triangle picks for bass.
No matter the pick used that is one sweet sounding mandolin.
I really like the Blue chip and the clown barf pick!
Definitely stand outs!
Of the group, I liked the Wegen more than the others...liked the tone slightly more, but definitely because it was the least "clicky" of the bunch.
For me Primetone 1.4 with grip surface can’t be beat. I trade off to Wegen 1.4 for a change but have so many picks sometimes I just grab what’s closest on the table. I also have a Golden Gate which is ok, a Fender Extra Heavy like Sam uses (too smooth, hard to grip) and a Dawg (which I don’t like at all, way too dark). As a guitarist as well, I sometimes use a Dunlop.73mm teardrop but on the round side, speedy with bright tone and works well when playing plugged in.
Last comment re pick preference? How’s it sound? Feel? Look? Lastly the cost? $20-$35 US a pop for the minor differences isn’t worth it to me.
Totally! I'd recommend the smooth version of the Primetone if you're looking for another affordable option that delivers!
@@DavidBenedictMandolin Thx David. I will check it out. 🎼😎👍🏼
@@DavidBenedictMandolin I agree with David. In my experience: the smooth sounds better, feels better in hand, and feels better off the strings.
Relatively new to mandolin here, how do you pick a good pick stiffness/ thickness? .75mm vs 1.0mm vs 1.3mm! Ahh!! So overwhelming!! Help!!
A thicker pick produces a more mellow or “dark” sound while a thinner one might sound brighter. I tend to go with the 1.3 mm clownbarf pick or the 1.4 prime tone.
< I'm a long time devotee of Wegen. Nothing feels quite the same in my hand.
Wondering if you've tried Frank Sollivan Jr's Tone Slab pick?
It's crazy costly....
I hate losing expensive plectrums.....
"Blue Chip" you'l be happy one you play one and sad if you lose it
One inescapable fact. The Apitius Vanguard will make any pick sound great.
Yeah, the mando is a big factor!
How to pronounce "Wegen?" Two websites pronounce it (as best I can hear the recordings) VAY zhun. Don't suppose many Americans would bother with remembering that, or finding an actual Dutch speaker who would help, yet it may be a nod to The Netherlands to pronounce the "W" as a "V." '
Really appreciate this video. Still, finding the perfect pick is about as easy as finding your perfect soulmate, eh? ;-)
Thanks Jimmy! Yeah, no slight to folks in the Netherlands, I’ve just heard musicians here in the States and abroad say it both ways, and wanted to cover the bases. Really great picks! Thanks so much for watching!
Wegen is pronounced way but almost emitting the y, like the se in per se. And the gen part is almost like gun only the g is in the back of the throat instead of a guh sound. Hard to explain haha. But I guess it doesn't matter that much!
Has any tried the picked called the mandolin pick?
How about using worn out guitar picks with a dull point?
Dunlop primetone. They're just as good as I need & not extortionately over priced
In my head, the cheaper picks sound a bit dead. Might this be down to the pick material on expensive picks, "releasing" the string more quickly. In my head, it's logical that if the pick material is a bit "sticky" it will dampen the string vibration a little.
Ive been attached to the CT55. Takes a lot to get me to change anything.
That's a good'un!
I bought the grip version of the dunlop primetone and I use it at least as often as the CT55. The blue chip is a little slippery and it makes more noise I think.
The smooth version looks like the CT55 but it seems to wear a lot faster. I've used my CT55 for 10 years and haven't noticed wear.
Wegen 1.4 and Dunlop 1.4 for me. I did drill the Wegen hole pattern in all of my Dunlops, though.