Amiga - Computer Chronicles (Amiga 2500)
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- Topics in this Episode (3/7/1989) of "Computer Chronicles" :
1) Researchers adding Amiga's
2) Games on the Amiga 2000 (Menace, Battle Chess)
3) Multitasking
4) Composing
5) Amiga 2500
6) Demonstration (Deluxe Paint III, Video Effects 3D, Broadcast Titler)
7) News
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I'm impressed by the quality, intelligence, and precision of the show. You learned useful infos on products, delivered in a form that respected the spectator.
It's like watching something from a long sunken continent...
I love those Random Access reports at the end.
Software Artists for Information Dissemination are bringing you down from the inside, Apple!
The thing that stood out for me when I had my first Amiga (a 500) is that you had had a multitasking GUI operating system (Workbench 1.3) that booted from a single 1.44M floppy disk.
880KB, not 1.44MB floppy. Amiga 500 used double density, not high density drives. So Workbench 1.3 fitted on a single 880KB disk with almost half the capacity of a 1.44MB high density floppy...
The Amiga was very underrated it's nearest competitor in capabilities back then was not an IBM or Mac but the early work stations like Sun 3s.
Had Deluxe Paint, Menace and Battle Chess, god the memories are strong in this video... Used to love animating on dp3
Sadly, the Amiga was way ahead of its time.
Actually the Amiga generally was much cheaper then an equivalent PC or Mac from the same era.
The problem was Commodore's marketing department did not fully appreciate what they had and how far ahead of it's time it was.
The Amiga got marketed mostly as a game machine when in fact it was the first multimedia computer.
The OS even had preemptive multitasking when the Macs only had cooperative multitasking and most PCs were still running DOS.
I learned how to play chess with Battle Chess back in the 80s.
FM synth is the cruddy one. A sample based sound chip was a modern design and the one still used.
Menace by DMA Design, those are the guys who would later become Rockstar North and make the GTA series of games.
Amigas were amazing, they really messed up in the 90s. If they had run Win 3.1 and then Win 95 they would still be with us
If they had been compatible they wouldn't really have been Amigas would they though? And they are still with us, just about
cosmicwatchmaker
The Amiga OS was far superior to win3.1 why would they cripple themselves? I use to have an Amiga 500 and could run any mac software as well on it. Amigas biggest problem is it was ahead of its time.
well, you could have a bridgeboard and run win 3.1 I had the 386 bridgeboard and it ended up running so well that I eventually just got a dedicated 486 winbox since I discovered the amiga software was just too limited and unrefined compared to windows offerings. the Amiga just became distasteful to use. Software mattered a heck of a whole lot. esp during the early 90s when the Internet became mainstream, the Amiga really lacked quality apps. PC hardware then became so cheap and powerful while Amiga prices rose with dated technology. Once the first generation 3D cards came out on the PC, the Amiga became a relic.
I was so convinced at the time that the Amiga was the future.
It was. No one wanted to see it and Apple along with Microsoft made it that way by locking up the education and business markets so they had no chance of succeeding.
We are only getting caught up in the last decade to what the Commodore Amiga was doing in the late 1980's and early 1990's. The Amiga was doing video editing, music creation, photo editing all the way back starting in 1985. That stuff never became popular until very recently in the early to mid 2000's with things like youtube, my space, twitch, photoshop. If the Amiga came out now it would blow away the competition no question about it.
It's a shame.
Jack Tramiel's unsustainable, unscrupulous methods and ultimate poor judgment caused the death and the remains to be burned of both Atari and Commodore. If someone like Jobs or Yahauchi had purchased those companies they would have had a fighting chance.
jugglingembalmer
Yep that too.
Stupidity cost them everything.
Jack had left Commodore well prior to Amiga. It was Irving Gould who destroyed Commodore and there was nothing anyone, including Jack, who could have done anything about it as he was the majority shareholder with an iron fisted grip on the company.
It was on PBS in the USA.
Awesome thanks for sharing!
i can't wait. i am so getting an amiga when they come out.
This is from 1989 lol Amiga's had been out years at this point.
Oh yes. Deluxe paint 3. That's where it all started for me. Amazing to see a video from it's release. Really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting it.
can't ... stop ... staring ... at supermullet!
The Amiga. The best computer I've ever owned.
I dunno, my computer runs pretty damn fine.
Intel i5 running at 3.2 GHz
16 GB of Corsair Vengence RAM clocked at 1333MHz
GigaByte Radeon 7770 HD GHz edition Superclocked
All running on an Asus P8H67-MLX MotherBoard.
Haven't had a problem with it since I built it. Computers are still getting better, the companies are just becoming more greedy with what they put in their own systems. That's why you build your own computer. Make it as good as you want. Then you can upgrade later. Worth every penny
One thing that they are letting aside nowadays is the heat production and power drain. Sure those Atoms run cool, and phone CPUs too, with lots of more processing power.
But: go back in time, and tell a i386 user to use a CPU cooler, he'll ask you why. Those didn't even use a heatsink, and nowadays CPUs that drain 65w are normal, 35w on a laptop is not uncommon.
OMG I want to play Battle chess again.
No game today has ever surpass it
DAMN IT! I wished they had this show in my area back in the day.
I watched it a lot back then.
It was a sunday afternoon ritual for many of us.
I taught myself to use D-Paint 3 when I was about 6 or 7! I loooved my Amiga, it was my first experience in making digital art (and music!).
They should have shown some demos from the demoscene.
This is ART! With only 8Mhz, the 68000, along a very well-done kernel, runs multi-tasking! Nowadays, you can buy a $2 micro-controller, the ATMEGA8, for example, with RISC instruction set, runs at 16Mhz!
But the awesome software by Amiga outdoes the crappy stuff we have nowadays, e.g., Microsoft!!!!! Things run like crap with GBs of RAM and GigaHertz CPUs!
The ART of computing has been lost!
Battle Chess was awesome...going to play this game again
Too slow for my taste.. I much preferred Chessmaster 2100..
+Stephanie Cline Ah, Battle Chess. Oh, the memories.
@marquis0r `ne Empfehlung aus Facebook. Muss mal schauen, ob es noch weitere Episoden gibt, die`s noch nicht nach TH-cam geschafft haben.
Better than Iphone 1 ! : p
It all seems a long long time ago. I enjoyed the vieeo tho :)
8:52 greatest chess game ever.
I have had the privilege to own the A1000, A500, A2000HD and A1200. I keep the A2000HD and A1200 alive and from time to time I will turn them on to bring on some fond memories but of late I have been using mostly WinUAE because both my units I know will have to have their capacitors changed out. I keep them because they are old friends and my only hope is that when I pass my children will have the same appreciation for them particularly my son who use to beat the hell out of the A500 back in the day.
thanks for the upload!
Lol,I remember this show,but could not afford an Amiga only saw them in Malls. :>(
sehr geil! woher haste das denn??
LOL! two sentences that were rarely heard in 1989 "...in print, and online." "...a gigabyte of storage"
Love love love the news segment at the end. What's that? A new program that can display text up to 3 times it's normal size!? Holy shit!
Desktop publishing? Home productivity? MS-DOs/Intel compatible? Business machine? Creativity device? Game system? The Amiga was capable of all of these things, but confused with its versatility. It was so good, Commodore wasn't quite sure to how to market it. They sort of hoped it would sell itself. Also, they expected the Commodore 64 to have more sales longevity.
true. apple faced the same predicament with their // series outselling and having far fatter profit margins than the Mac during this era. Yet they seemed to have pulled it off quite well.
Great products that could have been greater, but it WAS a shitty company.
Fantastic watch - subbed!
allright I'm getting an Amiga, bro
What's with the jazz band in the background?
Like if you think that Deluxe Paint is better than Photoshop!
software nowdays are a "bit" more complex... also you should not forget that OS-es of today have to handle wide variery of hardware... not just a specific machine. that makes coding software that requires less hardware a bit hard.
also if you qq about your windows 7 running slow, you should update that 10 years old hardware...
"Things run like crap with GBs of RAM and GigaHertz CPUs!"
Yeah,sometimes. what a shame.
I remember that Amiga chess game :D
At last. it was about time. :P
Its difficult to understand how Commodore fucked up the Amiga. The Amiga was loved by people and had the potential of an Apple Macintosh.
i think software was the problem for amiga. and perception. it was perceived as a game machine. and it never had killer applications that became standards in the industry (like cubase on atari/mac). amiga came later than ibm, dos and mac. as atari st it tried to start a new standard (files, app, hw) but the world already went in other direction. and commodore was indeed a small company from engineering point of view. there were none of the original amiga engineers in commodore staff in 1987 as amiga was a project commodore bought from another company. commodore failed to develop to its full potential also
They fucked up the Commodore 64 as well... from "more popular computer ever" to "killed off in its prime" rather than made into a totally household name.
***** "Had the Potential of an Apple Macintosh" ???? The Amiga was a Fully Pre-emptive Multitasking computer in 1985. The Macintosh did not achive that until 2000+ The Amiga had 4096 colors.. The Mac had "Black and White... Both Colors" at that time. The Mac was roughly $3500 at that time. (it included 9 glorious inches of Black and White Monitor). The Amiga was around $1200 with a 13 color monitor. The 4 Channel Stereo Sound Blew all the completion away! I don't understand how you believe the Amiga "Was almost a Wanna Be Mac".I agree that Irving Gould absolutely Screwed Commodore! But the Amiga was vastly superior to the Mac in the Mid to late 80's. Sluggo
sluggotg but hardware is everything. and the hardware of amiga didn't evolve much between 1985 and the demise of commodore. because modifying the hw meant to break compatibility with applications (so competitions slowly reached the amiga). also in 1985 the amigaos really sucked (it was really buggy). The amiga was a neat machine but all the feature it had made it good for a game machine not for a business machine. Mac in 1984 was not successful despite the hype. it costed a lot, no sw, low memory. but apple worked in different way than commodore differentiating markets and applications while commodore had 8 bit still in 1990 and the amiga but without the original creators. It was the company quality and structure that made the difference. Today the mac is an excellent environment. i agree with you, the amiga was really superior in terms of hardware.
+desperation mixtape Not true because Amiga had a multitasking system very much like Windows before anyone ever heard of that.. If only they had made the right business decisions Commodore would have taken over the market completely as the C64 was the most popular and successful computer of the 80's..
what is with that background music?
OMG THAT ROOK !!! :))
what channel did this air on?
Watching this while coding. Multiprocessing while watching a video about Multiprocessing.
well it was as seaquest dsv , Babylon 5 and some star trek next generation used amiga
America is ignoring the Amiga, while Europe is loving it.
"One is always going to be living with a mainframe." No, one is not.
I think you're trolling.
FM synthesis is better than the Amiga's PCM?
Thank freaking god for ctrl+c and ctrl+v
1989.... :)
Time travel just to go with an actual computer, and ask them to create a new game with that. :P
Yeah, mainly games that have been rushed out the door, that run like garbage. But if a game is done right, it runs amazingly well.
Sadly though, 1989 was a long time ago....
Now I'm certain you're trolling.
Don't you realize that PCM can play sound that sounds exactly like FM synthesis? The reverse is not true.
FM can't reproduce speech and musical instruments like PCM can.
@SarahKreuz78 He probably is bit I didn't notice.
yeah
Battle chess. I remember playing it. It is fun as a game but not so much as a chess. i was able to beat it on medium level every time, while i am quite weak chess player; on higher levels it would take hours to calculate the next move and i had no patience to play one game over the week...
I like the hair!! Unconfomed Bald Man
Battlechess never ran so crap on my Amiga
Battle Chess was tediously slow, those animations are fun once but drag the game for hours unnecessarily.
approximately megahz ...:D
What year is this?
that takes forever to capture.
@ash81b4u I guess he`s cheating in "Menace",did you see that? XD
That simulator looks worse than LHX on the megadrive lol
That's the problem with the new modern software. More crap they dump "that you dont need" into the OS the more babysitting needed and its ridiculous. "Cough" thanks Windows.....
haha
search for AROS
.iff
Or indeed in much of Europe. The Amiga was a very successful machine except in its home country. The Americans were busy buying crap PCs and the rather unsophisticated Japanese game consoles.
Try researching your facts properly before regurgitating said facts found on Wikipedia before posting.
You are one step away from trolling.
I'll say it again, be a diligent researcher.
Also use both machines from the same period, and if you did then I know that you are troll.
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