When I was in an Airborne Infantry battalion in Panama we were issued one 5 quart water bladder and one 2 quart collapsible canteen. Next was every man was given a case of MREs to stuff our rucksacks along with our other stuff and equipment. It was very heavy for me when we had to do a parachute jump at night with a main and reserve parachute at 800 feet. I was the M-60 gunner and that was not fun. A 75 pound pack plus in front of me and the 23 pound M-60 in a jump case was very heavy. We waddled up to the plane and had to be pulled up from the ramp of a C-130 or C-141 to get into our seats. The fun begins when we jumped into the pitch darkness at night and landing on what ever we landed on into the drop zone from 800 feet. That fucking sucked! My unit would stay out in the jungle for 2 or 3 weeks humping up and down hills and it rained or was really hot during the day for miles on end. If we were lucky the trucks would pick us up or the UH-60 Crashhawks and fly us back to the barracks. Most of the times they would make us hump another 15 or 20 miles to the PZ or pick up point. Airborne Infantry really will make you suffer. Just because we jumped out of airplanes we walked everywhere after we landed.
reddevilparatrooper thank you for sharing. In a few days I will turn 45 and I am thinking I need a 4 wheeler to haul all this stuff around. Your experiences just reinforce that thought. Thank you for your service.
Back when we were younger we thought we were invincible. For my 50th birthday last year I just bought a Chevy Colorado crew cab. My old classmate from school who is a former Recon Marine called it the "Urban Assault Vehicle". I love this thing because its great on gas and room for my large ALICE when I go on road trips.
+reddevilparatrooper About how much ammo did you carry as an 0331? I would imagine it would be at least be around 800-900 rounds for your M-60 ( especially on a "hot" DZ. That's gotta be heavy, carrying that much .308 Winchester ammo). I was also curious about what/how much your assistant gunner carried, since he also has to carry his weapons and mags/ammo, plus extra for you, correct?I'm guessing your assistant gunner/ammo carrier probably carried a rifle, carbine, or SMG with about 7-10 30s for rifles and carbines, and maybe 10-12 mags for SMG's, plus, being paratroopers, I assume you each carried a 1911 or M92FS ( I still have my Series 80 Colt 1911, love it. Had to sell the jam-prone, under-powered M92FS because I hate 9x19mm and that gun would jam if you looked at it cock-eyed and thought of dirt ), plus 2-4 extra pistol mags? I'm from a big, military area in South East Virginia ( the area where all the even numbered S.E.A.L. Teams are, Langley AFB, Navy Atlantic Fleet Headquarters, A Marine Amphibious Base, and on and on, I'm sure you know where ) and I'm from a U.S.M.C. family, so I've always had ( and do have ) lots of family and friends in the military. I'm aware your combat loads are largely mission dependent, but many buddies have said that you have a standard load/kit and if you want more you ask the Quartermaster, your C.O., or whoever, and you get it. A buddy of mine that was in the 82nd Airborne in Grenada was a light weapons specialist, and he said he generally carried substantially more than a typical ammo load of 10 30s ( if carrying the M-16, I don't know what he carried with something like a SOCOM 16 and various other weapons). He did say that he, along with most Airborne troops, carried a sidearm. I think he carried a 1911 with some extra mags. I was just curious as to what you carry into what you already know is going to be a heavy firefight, where your insertion is predicted to be heavily contested. Thanks to you and your fellow G.I.s for doing that stuff, by the way :)
Hi, ARMAS colleagues, (if I can say it), I make a small presentation. I am SPANISH, and my family from the United States, my cousins served in the US NAVY and USMC. I in the SPANISH LEGION and SPECIAL FORCES OF MOUNTAINS, I know what you are talking about since in joint maneuvers with the paratroopers, they did not leave them pulled by the Pyrenees (border with France) and we had to carry with the backpack about 30 to 35 kg more MG3, where after eating our rations we had to store the garbage and take with us. We were up and down the hill for 15 days and about 30km (or more) a day. The paratroopers fell like flies, they could not follow us, since they were used to more km but for flatter terrain. A cordial greeting
Nice stuff Mack, I follow your channel for few months now and I always take your examples and advices when gearin´up for some wilderness action. Keep it up bro!
I get why people mod the straps, but I never found them difficult to un-cinch: just hold onto the bottom strap and pull back on the metal fastener. Easy peasy.
That is a nice backpack and you do have it loaded down and I too hope you don't have to carry it very far due to it's weight. I have a modern backpack which I purchased from the area Army National Guard base exchange. Since they sold the brand used by the military I decided to get one there and it is nice and I tried not to overload it since I didn't want all that weight on my back. I have the items I would need in an emergency, but limited everything else and didn't want to carry my guns with me. I do keep a spare fold up knife in my pack along with a folding saw, and carry one knife on my utility belt. I carry one canteen on my belt and have a spare one in my kit along with the sanitizing pills and a filter with the hose, and pills for it. My first aid kit is medium size for many cuts or injuries, but I limited the clothing.
Great video, Brother ! One tip though...do not keep your sleeping system up on the top, even if you have the waterproof bivy on the outside. It will always seem to collect water, and keep it in (soaking the other bags) due to it being gore-tex. Having spent quite some time in the Infantry, I discovered that...plus, if you go through thorny areas, they will catch hold of the straps of the compression straps or poke holes through the gore-tex. Other than that, it looks like a good packing list.
Thanks for the tip. I have added and subtracted some stuff since this video. Your experience is worth more than all the books ever written on the subject So thank you for sharing. By the way I love your user name.
Thank you, Brother ! My Army Platoon Sergeant couldn't pronounce my last name and game the "FU" nickname (it is said FOO, like egg foo young). But, when people take it as F-U, I don't correct them, cuz I don't care....LOL ! Have a good one.
+Detman 101 I know it's preference, but I'll take MOLLE before ALICE any day ( tho Coleman's Military Surplus has a bunch of new, large ALICE rucks with new frames, pads, everything, for $60, and they're in MARPAT ( Marine Pattern) camo, so I may get one. It's worth $60 to see what all the deal/ ALICE-love is about. I'm an ILBE and 5.11 Rush 72 guy, but for such a highly-touted ruck with brand new everything, I think I may get a large ALICE, especially in MARPAT ( and have to find those pain-in-the-ass-clips, lol ). I would prefer a Savotta Sarma TST 80 with the CP 15 on top as a "pillow pocket" ( my word for top pockets, like on the ILBE ), and a Berghaus Crusader, but those are really expensive compared to my ILBE with assault pack, which I already have :)
To make the pack a lot more comfortable use the Molle II shoulder straps and Waist belt. this pack is great for versatility and is molle compatible with pouches , etc...
I am looking into getting a set in the near future. To many projects to little green backs to go around. Thanks for watching. By the way I have an updated contents video. This one was sort of an embarrassment .
You may want to add to your contents a gallon Ziploc bag of crushed Wild Lettuce as well, for Natural Painkiller. I asked a Shaman how much of the plant to add to one cup of water, I was told one ounce. Might be something of interest... At least you would already have some medicine for when you need a strong painkiller until you can process more and replace...
Being stuck up north, I have to adapt to long-term freezes, so... I've switched, as much as poss., to non-liquid based stuff, like: baking soda instead of tooth paste, etc. -- and, laugh if u like, but in the bug & tick season, I wear womens' panty hose ( XL of course ) both on legs and cut out and secured all up my arms. -- it's breathable & the best bug blocker ever invented shy of calling in an airstrike w/ napalm or using sprays, creams, sheep-dip etc. -- & an old-tymie mosquito net over my boonie hat and inside the collar (has the added benefit of breaking up my punkin' head silhouette!)... just sayin'...
I just published an update to this video. I've added a few items and consolidated many of the existing items. I hope both videos are helpful. Than you for watching. Mack
+Michael Eversberg II that I don't know. The large pouches will hold an complete M.R.E. in it's protective pouch and the small ones will hold a loaded rifle magazine. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. If time allows I will try and find the manual online and see if it gives those Specs. Thanks for watching.
mackdaddy1911a1 How snug's the fit on each? I happen to have an MRE pouch that can give me the idea of size; so far this is the best comparison I've heard! I did find a couple of manuals on the ALICE system, but never any measurements. Even the repair guide lacks some. That's a little strange for me, in the context of military literature.
+Michael Eversberg II You have to force them into the pouch bit not do hard that you could damage the contents. Unless you go through the training the nomenclature and acronyms are a pain. That's why I'm not an expert, didn't finish high school and even after 9/11 they wouldn't let me in. Good luck finding the information you need.
Pflugerville Bushcraft I updated this video using many of the great suggestions I received after posting this one. I hope you'll check it out also. Thank you.
@SavageSurvival Is that the one that s apple cinnamon flavored and comes in 6 400 calorie portions in a resealable bag? If so, they are delicious and I normally pack 2 or more (depending on how long I'll be in the wild). You'll love them and they go really good with trail mix, granola, Cliff Bars, various good energy bars, dried fruit, dried roasted and salted mixed nuts, and my own special mixture that has every food group represented, some jerky, pemmican, MREs, and various goodies that pack nicely and give you plenty
To help with long term sustainability you should have a decent fishing kit. I have a 75 liter backpack that is set up as an INCH bag and it is filled to the brim. I should have a video breakdown of it within a week. It should be an interesting video with some good ideas. COMING SOON.
I'm going to have to figure out something once I get my rifle (Kel-Tec Sub-2000). I'm going to need to store about 7-8 Glock magazines somewhere on my medium Alice. I probably need to carry more food than I do. I only carry about 3 days worth. I think if I can get my wife and son to carry their own med kits I can shrink the size of the huge med kit I carry.
mackdaddy1911a1 Hehe, I hope you're right. About right now the only hope I have of them taking their rucks seriously is for them to get into some kind of trouble and need the items inside. Until then, they're going to continue considering me the nutcase paramilitary crackpot of the family...
Detman101 don't feel lonely. Kimo used to participate, even went camping with us...once. "It's to hot". or " Take me to a REAL bathroom". But she was a good sport at the time. I did't wake up with an ice pick in my eye.
+Marion Robinson IV good deal. I have already got a lot of great suggestions and helpful advice since uploading this video.I know my kit needs some work and the suggestions I got were all helpful. I will check your load out and learn even more. Thanks for watching.
Get rid of the Texsport Chinese shovel, use a real Gi issue shovel. I didn't see a poncho and poncho liner, i also pack a small hand saw. I have that same tomahawk, the steel chiped on the edge when I used it on some pine limbs. Pine is a soft wood so, i was surprised. I now use a Eswing tomahawk, it's heavy but is better steel. I may use a camp axe for extended hunting into late fall, if I think i may have to do some heavier axe work. I have several different US and foreign military and commercial packs but non are perfect. One of my fovorites is the large alice pack. And web gear. I am drawn back to it because of the simple top load design, the dry bag to keep my spare clothes in. And it's ergonomics with the web belt and harness with the butt pack and canteens. I also use it on my mule deer hunts in the mountains.
I destroyed that texsport from normal use. One time. It failed. Old video. I have upgraded much of the stuff but the pack I will hang on to. Alice is hard to beat.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video. I seem to have a combination betweenLC1one backpack LC2 to shoulder straps and kidney belt On what I believe to be an LC one frame can you help me out with that at all?
Joseph Malone I gave the pamphlet I had on the different gear to a buddy of mine several years ago and he "misplaced it". I know there is a Large pack with the 3 small pouches and 3 large pouches. The medium with only the 3 large pouches but I am not sure about different straps or frame. Sorry I couldn't't be of more help. Thanks for watching. I will try to find out and post a video this weekend. Good luck.
+Joseph Malone Perhaps it's a ruck that someone "Frankensteined" together. I've heard of military guys doing that, mixing and matching kit to suit their personal preference. I seem to remember hearing of a guy put a large MOLLE 2 frame on a large ALICE, or something like that ( it's been a while since I heard or read that, so details are hazy ). Perhaps you have a similar ruck, just a guess
Lastly, I'm developing a combat clothing line that allows the warrior to 'wear' a lot of the more pliable items all around the body. You can carry a ton without added fatigue & added padding ( across the shoulders ) if it's properly dispersed, and why not use gloves, knit caps, etc. as knee & elbow pads in reinforced pockets, just for starters... enuff sayin' for now... except, keep up with the great vids!!
+oldfmfcorpman thank you very much. I will have a new video up shortly with some new items. Several that you covered. I am open to new things and better ways. I hope to continue to learn for the rest of my life. So again thank you and I appreciate your hard won Wisdom.
Man this video is OLD. Got a lot of good tips and have changed some stuff I had in it. Here is the link to the newer video. th-cam.com/video/yL7uuGrHg88/w-d-xo.html&list=PLLsNifs4wsD9scOvIWOjAKY57q3r_cLtM . Still a work in progress, now all I need is a mule to haul it around.
I didn't see any Q-Tips for smearing that grease around, you need to get another canteen cup, never fails when you need it you forgot it, love at the end you admit that it's a heavy bag an you don't really want to tote it far, my hats off to you Bro for your honesty, now if others would heed your advice, cut those MRE'S down, remember the mantra, ounces = pounds= pain, it's a journey of learning.
My next video series will be on how the N Vietnamese hauled all that gear down to the south and what we can take away from it. How we can copy them. I have shed some weight but not enough. So I am going to explore Old School ways of doing it. Thank you for the comment and for watching.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Yeah Bro, I grew up in that era, a bike was a wonderful pack mule back then, necessity is the mother of invention, an you gotta hand it to them, they were innovative back then, looking forward to your series, thx for the vid.
How about a small folding saw , a bore snake and chunk the rods , you can use the 550 cord for boot laces , water filter [sawyers are cheap at wally world ] did not see a flashlight , mash the ramen noodles up and put in a zip lock bag or plastic jar , you can carry more and will make less noise , a small fishing kit could come in handy ... Hope this helps , good job take care and God bless ...
For the video I should have included the stuff from the assault pack. The contents of which are from the large pack. Thanks for the suggestions. I have been considering an Otis kit to cover the rifle. As far as a folding saw I have a Coglan's Sierra 180 folding saw, hands down the best hand saw I have ever used. Fishing kit, I'll have to get a kit together. thanks.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Thanks, man. I pack med and ammo heavy and a bag like that on each side of my rucks would give me plenty of extra both ( AK 30 round mags in 1 and meds in the other ). They seem to be the very thing for the job of adding to what's on my plate carrier and MOLLE pouches on my rucks Do they MOLLE on? If not, I can always use Gear Snake, Gear Cobra, Slick Sticks, Para Cord, Titan Cord, rope, or wire, many ways to attach to MOLLE loops. It's easy to get creative ;)
I don’t go in the Maine woods without my Alice, last season hunting bear, I was grateful I had my ;40 glock in my Alice, as I needed it to finish off my bear, long story, very grateful
+hcchang99 A .40 caliber on a bear? Did you have to empty he mag into it? My normal CCW gun is a Glock 23 .40 caliber ( sometimes a Sig Saur P229 chambered in .40 caliber and sometimes a Glock 30 .45ACP ). When it comes to pistols, I'm a .45ACP guy, but the .40 cals in a belly band holster [especially the Glock 23] with a couple extra, high capacity mags loaded with 180 grain Hydra Shoks gives me 40 rounds of "around town" protection, or 31 rounds of bigger, harder hitting rounds with the Glock 30 loaded with 230 grain Hydra Shoks and they're so light you almost don't notice that you're carrying enough power to deal with any realistic encounters. I don't really hunt these days, but when I do hunt ( or go traipsing around the woods ) I normally carry a Magnum caliber revolver, usually a .44 Magnum, and something like a .30-06 Springfield 1903, 8mm German Mauser K-98 ( I like my WW2 bolt actions for hunting or a walk in the dense woods around my house, we have some big critters up here in the mountains of the South ) SKS, AKM, H&K G3, etc....... What rifle do you prefer for hunting bear?
That is originally an American Large ALICE pack. it was originally olive drab. I used fabric markers and fabric paint and created my own pattern. Thanks for noticing.
Great video Buddy. Get a small diameter inner tube, cut a piece and roll that over your Zippo. You can now immerse the Zippo in water and it will light. Yeah, Good ole wooden matches in 35 mm film canisters and a Zippo are my first go to's before a Ferro Rod. I pack more than I should, but go by the Bush Code. 2 is one, and one is none. I have a med Alice, need to upgrade to the large at some point. I have heard people put down Military Surplus. That's BS. Military is some of the best gear you can get. FK this Titanium shite. I'm old school even if adds a couple of extra lbs to my pack. I also need to get some decent load bearing web gear. Ya know, a guy has to carry ammo and such. I like the thought you put into your extra terminal gear. In a SHTF total Survival Situation, there will be folks like us, and those that will running around looking for their next Star Bucks Latte's.
+mackdaddy1911a1 I've been considering a large ALICE ruck since Coleman's Military Surplus has brand new, large ALICE rucks with the frame, in MARPAT (Marine Pattern ) camo for $60. Even the large ALICE has always seemed like a pretty small ruck for long term B.O.B./I.N.C.H. packs, should the need arise. But, since I blew my knee about 22 years ago (life-long chronic pain patient that hurts more and more as I get older ), and I'll be 46 in a couple of months, humping around with my ILBE with the assault pack and all kinds of MOLLE pouches attached would be killing my knee if my truck became immobile and I had to carry everything, I've loaded my LAPG Atlas 72 ( wanted a 5.11 Rush 72 or Savotta Sarma TST 80 but way too expensive ) with adjusted load and making full, good use of the MOLLE. While browsing You Tube for large ALICE rucks I saw your video and the 1911A1 in the channel name, I figured we probably think a lot alike. We do, so I watched your video first. I'm a .45ACP ( for pistols ) and AK and .308 guy for rifles ( screw a 9mm pistol, 5.56 rifle and the other "maybe" rounds. .40 caliber is the minimum for pistols in my book, 7.62/30 cal for rifles. Sure, the weapons, rounds, and mags are heavier, but you don't need to expend as much ammo on a threat ), so we think alike on a lot of stuff. Like you, I believe in redundancy of everything and you're among the few people that mentions carrying a cleaning kit for your guns, or even mentions bringing lots of firepower in case you need it I have 2 vests/chest rigs, a Spetznaz vest which is set up for AK 47/AKM, and a surplus LBV/FLC which I have set up for .308. Both are equipped with a bunch of extra, high capacity mags, med bags ( being a chronic pain patient with panic disorder, I don't screw around when it comes to my meds, and my trauma kits aren't the "boo boo" kits you see in many videos) and stored with corresponding rifles. I keep a pistol belt with a Glock 21 and plenty of high capacity mags at the ready, along with a belly-band holster with a compact .40 cal and couple of extra mags for CCW so all I have to do is put on a vest, pistol belt, sling a rifle and ruck on, grab the other vest and rifle and I can be on my way in minutes. Seeing all the stuff you fit into that large ALICE has led me to consider picking up a $60 large ALICE. My main questions are 1). Would my MOLLE gear attach to ALICE ruck attachment points? And 2). How much gear/weight can it's lid pocket carry ( I've heard they can be loaded with a lot of stuff )? Also, what kind of med pouch is that big one on the side of your ALICE? Thanks for the tip about using oil for the cotton balls in your fire bag, I hadn't thought of that. I do include a pen can of WD 40 in my fire bag, as well as some German gun cleaning wicks (Coleman's has 1000 wick cases for cheap ) in both my fire bag and my Swiss gun cleaning kit that's good for 30-50 calibers. I like to pack enough extra ammo to reload every mag for everything I carry at least twice ( I use a kitchen vacuum sealer and the rolls of Mylar for it, make the size bags I want, and use masking tape and a Sharpie to label them according to caliber, number of rounds per bag, grain weight, bullet type, etc....... Thought I'd offer some tips I find useful in case it's something you didn't think of, most people don't realize how much ammo you can use even breaking contact with a superior force and, if a societal collapse is the case, who can say when you can find more ammo. The book I carry is the field sized S.A.S. Survival Guide). Anyway, good video and thanks if you answer. Stay cool :)
Any tips that are delivered with respect vs condemnation is always welcome. I continue to learn, though not every good piece of advice works for my set up or in every situation. BUT it all adds to the wealth of knowledge and is very much appreciated. In every war of the 20th century the planners were ALWAYS wrong about how much ammunition would be required. Especially in the American army since World War 1. Semi automatic weapons made the situation worse/ better depending on your point of view. More volume less accuracy. As I have stated in many of my videos a minuteman will not have the luxury of a resupply chopper or truck. Caches will be essential. Have you ever thought of a cart you could pull or a bike? Remember the Vietnamese used bikes to haul HUGE amounts of gear down the Ho Chi Min trail into S. Vietnam. The Japanese and yes even The American army and MARINES used carts to move gear over the Stilwell/Burma Rd and New Guinea, etc. NutNFancy did a Bugout video pulling a game cart. He was moving 90 pounds of gear and supplies. I am going to do some experiments this spring with a bike and cart as a proof of concept. To see if I can get it to work well enough to warrant the effort.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Oh yeah, I have a wheeled cart with multiple large shelves. I think I could get 90 pounds or more onto it and it would fit, along with my gear, weapons, meds, several big Jerry Cans of gas etc....... in the back of my truck/SUV if a "bug out" was necessary ( the back seats of the SUV would be in the garage, but I would keep the seat padding. Lots more comfy than a military, 5/16" sleep pad, and I'd sleep in the SUV, only lashing y sleep gear in the compression bags if I had to abandon the vehicle for some reason ) Given where I currently live, way up in the mountains of NC ( Great Smokies, near the Great Smokies National Park/Forest and Pisgah National Forest ) on a large tract of heavily wooded and rugged private land, in a house that's hard to even find, 1 way in [steep hill and dirt and gravel road], abundant hunting and fishing, 2 wells, arable land for food and my pain meds boosting opium poppies [shhhhhh ;) ], I think I'd be more likely to fortify and bunker in. I have plenty of guns, ammo/mags ( I grew up shooting and collecting guns for the better part of almost 46 years, buy surplus ammo by the cases, reloading bench with turret press, you get the idea ), meds, gear, and so on, plus a knowledge of wood/bush craft, etc....... I think my chances would be a lot better to get a close group of the several people I trust ( and they are few ) together, even the ones who think I'm weird for prepping and having so much in the way of weapons, ammo, supplies, and so-on, and protect the homestead. We have the room and resources, so we'd probably do better fishing, hunting, farming, defending and looting if a Mad Max societal collapse happened (and we all will eventually become looters, robbers, and even killers when necessary if we want to live). Oh, curious as to what you'd grab if you had to bug out. I figure the large Alice would be your main ruck, basically packed as in the video with some extra goodies, but what about if you had to grab your ruck, the cart, 6 or 9 or so guns, however many knives, bayonets and various weapons tac-vest/plate carrier/chest rig ( your choice ), mags, ammo, meds ( we'll assume you have serious meds and trauma kits, plus general survival gear ), but, with stuff you own, what and how much in terms of vests, guns, mags, ammo? It's fun to think about ( I think so, anyway ), and what would you be driving ( we'll assume tools, Jerry Cans of gas, Fix-A-Flat, that kind of stuff )? Curious to see how you'd arm and kit up if you had to load a vehicle's worth of tac gear, weapons, ammo, mags, etc....... , what the mackdaddy would take on the societal collapse with. Think about it, take stock of the stuff you've got ( and stuff you're fixin' to get ) and reply. Anxious to read your tac gear
This doesn't seem to be an ALICE pack. And never have I.seen that camo pattern on U.S. equipment maybe WW2 or Korea era but not after Vietnam which the ALICE pack was after Vietnam And afaik they dont have 6 pockets just 3, and I think they aren't in the same location. I was hoping to see other comments like this. I could be wrong but I think this isn't ALICE. I recently saw a few ads for ALICE packs they aren't really ALICE but were advertised as such Ok update...I see in another video you painted it
From a reconnaissance corpsman to you, a maxi pad is not near as effective as it’s been told to be my friend. Find something better before it costs you or someone else’s life
Please... How far do you think your going to get with that 75 lb pack of BS on your 5’ 140lb self.? Dial that thing down to a medium and throw half that shit away. A ton of stuff makes no difference if you can carry it more than a 1/4 mile. I expected you to pull a Volkswagen out of that thing next
I will give you a historical reference. The North Vietnamese army. At my age with my job, hauling 30 pounds will probably kill my butt. Here is another one, Horsepower.... literally. I have been riding all my life and that includes mules. Why would I walk? Dude I drive a truck. Tuck drivers were originally known as teamsters. In other words, they drove wagons being pulled by Teams of horses, mules, oxen, etc. Damn all that walking.
mackdaddy1911a1 Then why set up a pack that is Clearly over 60lbs that straps on your back? You’ve got an entirely unrealistic, overweight setup with the intention of not using it, you seem to be saying. To give you some historical reference, during the 80’s in the 10th mountain infantry we were still periodically training using mules. And we didn’t strap framed backpacks to them. Since a mule can typically haul a few hundreds pounds, even with two large ALICE packs overstuffed the way you have them, you’d still be under loading the animal. I’m not saying it’s not possible,... but if you’re Planning for a long term type deployment, then why Plan on under loading the animal? I’m just wondering. If you have a backpack setup, then you should have it setup in a fashion that you can actually utilize. And the rule for a mule is basically the same as for a person. Only load about 20% of your (well conditioned) body weight on your back if you intend to hump it all day, and expect to do it the next day (and the next day) too.. Not just my opinion.
@@DmakAttack I have a small pack for patrols, over night , etc. The large pack is intended for long term sustainment. If I need to leave my home. Nothing I can carry will sustain us for long with out the tools or skills to hunt or gather natural foods. The North Vietnamese moved mountains of supplies on bicycles. The Japanese did the same and the British and Americans used carts. The pack contains it, a bike will transport it and if my idea works will allow me to relay the pack and it's contents over obstacles then come back for the bike. A work in progress. Not perfected yet but a viable way to move way more than I can simply carry in a ruck. Depending on the situation there is always automobiles, 4 wheelers, Lawn tractors, and adult tricycles. The most important thing I think is to not restrict ourselves to only one way to escape or evacuate or resupply ourselves. Ideas evolve as experience teaches. The situation will dictate not only the method of transport but the type of route. An emp will eliminate most but a single horse or mule or cow can pull a wagon or cart or trailer a hell of a lot heavier than it can carry. So can a man or men. But again the situation will dictate whether it is feasible. I guess what I am saying is I am not simply thinking of a tactical situation but of an evacuation brought on by natural or man made disasters. Maybe I am over thinking it . Trying to carry to much. For to many situations. Thank you for the stats and advice. I am not ignoring it just thinking of multiple scenarios and multiple modes of transport other than carrying in on my back.
mackdaddy1911a1 I’m guess I should apologize.. I didn’t realize you’re simply engaging in a fantasy game you seem to call survival. You clearly have no plans, just a big pack of stuff you picked up at Walmart..and now live in some fantasy that when “The shit hits the fan” you are somehow going to do something other than be a victim of it and, instead, are going to “escape and live off the land”. I would encourage you to see the reality of your age and general physical condition. I would encourage you to stay at Home. Seriously. This silly fantasy of you “somehow” “bugging out” to this place you clearly don’t have would most likely end in a worse situation for you. Instead of this childish foolishness, maybe get more involved with your community and do what you can do to make sure one of these terrible scenarios you fantasize about Never happen. That’s probably a better and more realistic survival plan.
@@DmakAttack never said that the plan was to escape. I said the situation will dictate the how and the what. I will stay put if possible. Or move out if needed. By the best method available . All plans must also take into account the other people that I do not want to leave behind. For instance , kids, wife , etc. So I may not be as realistic in my thoughts on the subject but by the same token, are you? Are you going to leave them behind or find a way to either take them with you or sit tight and create a community of family ,friends, and neighbors to work together to survive?
When I was in an Airborne Infantry battalion in Panama we were issued one 5 quart water bladder and one 2 quart collapsible canteen. Next was every man was given a case of MREs to stuff our rucksacks along with our other stuff and equipment. It was very heavy for me when we had to do a parachute jump at night with a main and reserve parachute at 800 feet. I was the M-60 gunner and that was not fun. A 75 pound pack plus in front of me and the 23 pound M-60 in a jump case was very heavy. We waddled up to the plane and had to be pulled up from the ramp of a C-130 or C-141 to get into our seats. The fun begins when we jumped into the pitch darkness at night and landing on what ever we landed on into the drop zone from 800 feet. That fucking sucked! My unit would stay out in the jungle for 2 or 3 weeks humping up and down hills and it rained or was really hot during the day for miles on end. If we were lucky the trucks would pick us up or the UH-60 Crashhawks and fly us back to the barracks. Most of the times they would make us hump another 15 or 20 miles to the PZ or pick up point. Airborne Infantry really will make you suffer. Just because we jumped out of airplanes we walked everywhere after we landed.
reddevilparatrooper thank you for sharing. In a few days I will turn 45 and I am thinking I need a 4 wheeler to haul all this stuff around. Your experiences just reinforce that thought.
Thank you for your service.
Back when we were younger we thought we were invincible. For my 50th birthday last year I just bought a Chevy Colorado crew cab. My old classmate from school who is a former Recon Marine called it the "Urban Assault Vehicle". I love this thing because its great on gas and room for my large ALICE when I go on road trips.
Real men jump out of perfectly good aircraft! The bad part is always the trip home.
+reddevilparatrooper About how much ammo did you carry as an 0331? I would imagine it would be at least be around 800-900 rounds for your M-60 ( especially on a "hot" DZ. That's gotta be heavy, carrying that much .308 Winchester ammo). I was also curious about what/how much your assistant gunner carried, since he also has to carry his weapons and mags/ammo, plus extra for you, correct?I'm guessing your assistant gunner/ammo carrier probably carried a rifle, carbine, or SMG with about 7-10 30s for rifles and carbines, and maybe 10-12 mags for SMG's, plus, being paratroopers, I assume you each carried a 1911 or M92FS ( I still have my Series 80 Colt 1911, love it. Had to sell the jam-prone, under-powered M92FS because I hate 9x19mm and that gun would jam if you looked at it cock-eyed and thought of dirt ), plus 2-4 extra pistol mags?
I'm from a big, military area in South East Virginia ( the area where all the even numbered S.E.A.L. Teams are, Langley AFB, Navy Atlantic Fleet Headquarters, A Marine Amphibious Base, and on and on, I'm sure you know where ) and I'm from a U.S.M.C. family, so I've always had ( and do have ) lots of family and friends in the military. I'm aware your combat loads are largely mission dependent, but many buddies have said that you have a standard load/kit and if you want more you ask the Quartermaster, your C.O., or whoever, and you get it.
A buddy of mine that was in the 82nd Airborne in Grenada was a light weapons specialist, and he said he generally carried substantially more than a typical ammo load of 10 30s ( if carrying the M-16, I don't know what he carried with something like a SOCOM 16 and various other weapons). He did say that he, along with most Airborne troops, carried a sidearm. I think he carried a 1911 with some extra mags. I was just curious as to what you carry into what you already know is going to be a heavy firefight, where your insertion is predicted to be heavily contested. Thanks to you and your fellow G.I.s for doing that stuff, by the way :)
Hi, ARMAS colleagues, (if I can say it), I make a small presentation. I am SPANISH, and my family from the United States, my cousins served in the US NAVY and USMC. I in the SPANISH LEGION and SPECIAL FORCES OF MOUNTAINS, I know what you are talking about since in joint maneuvers with the paratroopers, they did not leave them pulled by the Pyrenees (border with France) and we had to carry with the backpack about 30 to 35 kg more MG3, where after eating our rations we had to store the garbage and take with us. We were up and down the hill for 15 days and about 30km (or more) a day. The paratroopers fell like flies, they could not follow us, since they were used to more km but for flatter terrain. A cordial greeting
Great video, nice kit you have there I love the ALICE packs, I probably wouldn't say that if I had to carry it every day lol.
Nice stuff Mack, I follow your channel for few months now and I always take your examples and advices when gearin´up for some wilderness action. Keep it up bro!
Nice loadout ruck, you got all of your ends covered for your area. Keep your powder dry and keep the DR SEUSS feet dry too! - Gulf Coast Pine Belt
I get why people mod the straps, but I never found them difficult to un-cinch: just hold onto the bottom strap and pull back on the metal fastener. Easy peasy.
That is a nice backpack and you do have it loaded down and I too hope you don't have to carry it very far due to it's weight. I have a modern backpack which I purchased from the area Army National Guard base exchange. Since they sold the brand used by the military I decided to get one there and it is nice and I tried not to overload it since I didn't want all that weight on my back. I have the items I would need in an emergency, but limited everything else and didn't want to carry my guns with me. I do keep a spare fold up knife in my pack along with a folding saw, and carry one knife on my utility belt. I carry one canteen on my belt and have a spare one in my kit along with the sanitizing pills and a filter with the hose, and pills for it. My first aid kit is medium size for many cuts or injuries, but I limited the clothing.
Nice camo job you did on the pack!
Great video, Brother !
One tip though...do not keep your sleeping system up on the top, even if you have the waterproof bivy on the outside. It will always seem to collect water, and keep it in (soaking the other bags) due to it being gore-tex.
Having spent quite some time in the Infantry, I discovered that...plus, if you go through thorny areas, they will catch hold of the straps of the compression straps or poke holes through the gore-tex. Other than that, it looks like a good packing list.
Thanks for the tip. I have added and subtracted some stuff since this video. Your experience is worth more than all the books ever written on the subject So thank you for sharing. By the way I love your user name.
Thank you, Brother !
My Army Platoon Sergeant couldn't pronounce my last name and game the "FU" nickname (it is said FOO, like egg foo young).
But, when people take it as F-U, I don't correct them, cuz I don't care....LOL !
Have a good one.
WOOHOO ALICE!!!
My favorite girl!! (for backpacks that is.)
+Detman 101 I know it's preference, but I'll take MOLLE before ALICE any day ( tho Coleman's Military Surplus has a bunch of new, large ALICE rucks with new frames, pads, everything, for $60, and they're in MARPAT ( Marine Pattern) camo, so I may get one. It's worth $60 to see what all the deal/ ALICE-love is about. I'm an ILBE and 5.11 Rush 72 guy, but for such a highly-touted ruck with brand new everything, I think I may get a large ALICE, especially in MARPAT ( and have to find those pain-in-the-ass-clips, lol ). I would prefer a Savotta Sarma TST 80 with the CP 15 on top as a "pillow pocket" ( my word for top pockets, like on the ILBE ), and a Berghaus Crusader, but those are really expensive compared to my ILBE with assault pack, which I already have :)
My favorite rucksack ever!!!
To make the pack a lot more comfortable use the Molle II shoulder straps and Waist belt. this pack is great for versatility and is molle compatible with pouches , etc...
I am looking into getting a set in the near future. To many projects to little green backs to go around. Thanks for watching. By the way I have an updated contents video. This one was sort of an embarrassment .
I have same issue with those greenbacks myself. good vid
You may want to add to your contents a gallon Ziploc bag of crushed Wild Lettuce as well, for Natural Painkiller. I asked a Shaman how much of the plant to add to one cup of water, I was told one ounce. Might be something of interest... At least you would already have some medicine for when you need a strong painkiller until you can process more and replace...
Being stuck up north, I have to adapt to long-term freezes, so... I've switched, as much as poss., to non-liquid based stuff, like: baking soda instead of tooth paste, etc. -- and, laugh if u like, but in the bug & tick season, I wear womens' panty hose ( XL of course ) both on legs and cut out and secured all up my arms. -- it's breathable & the best bug blocker ever invented shy of calling in an airstrike w/ napalm or using sprays, creams, sheep-dip etc. -- & an old-tymie mosquito net over my boonie hat and inside the collar (has the added benefit of breaking up my punkin' head silhouette!)... just sayin'...
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Emgency creamer out of MRE can be used as a blood clotter can a cardboard for MRE can be made into a makeshift bandage
Thank you for your response I have subscribed to your channel. Little new with the Facebook thing look forward to watching more of your videos. Joe M.
Going to need a pack donkey like them old time miners to carry around all that gear
I definitely would carry them 2 quart canteens instead of them small canteens
Except for the weight of all that water!
great video I will be adding some more stuff to my bob now
I just published an update to this video. I've added a few items and consolidated many of the existing items. I hope both videos are helpful. Than you for watching.
Mack
Does anyone have the actual measurements on those six outside pouches? Like length, width, depth?
+Michael Eversberg II that I don't know. The large pouches will hold an complete M.R.E. in it's protective pouch and the small ones will hold a loaded rifle magazine. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. If time allows I will try and find the manual online and see if it gives those Specs. Thanks for watching.
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How snug's the fit on each? I happen to have an MRE pouch that can give me the idea of size; so far this is the best comparison I've heard! I did find a couple of manuals on the ALICE system, but never any measurements. Even the repair guide lacks some. That's a little strange for me, in the context of military literature.
+Michael Eversberg II You have to force them into the pouch bit not do hard that you could damage the contents. Unless you go through the training the nomenclature and acronyms are a pain. That's why I'm not an expert, didn't finish high school and even after 9/11 they wouldn't let me in. Good luck finding the information you need.
Love the video thanks for sharing
Pflugerville Bushcraft I updated this video using many of the great suggestions I received after posting this one. I hope you'll check it out also. Thank you.
You will like the ust bar. Tastes like apple cinnamon instant oatmeal.
@SavageSurvival Is that the one that s apple cinnamon flavored and comes in 6 400 calorie portions in a resealable bag? If so, they are delicious and I normally pack 2 or more (depending on how long I'll be in the wild). You'll love them and they go really good with trail mix, granola, Cliff Bars, various good energy bars, dried fruit, dried roasted and salted mixed nuts, and my own special mixture that has every food group represented, some jerky, pemmican, MREs, and various goodies that pack nicely and give you plenty
To help with long term sustainability you should have a decent fishing kit. I have a 75 liter backpack that is set up as an INCH bag and it is filled to the brim. I should have a video breakdown of it within a week. It should be an interesting video with some good ideas.
COMING SOON.
I'm going to have to figure out something once I get my rifle (Kel-Tec Sub-2000).
I'm going to need to store about 7-8 Glock magazines somewhere on my medium Alice.
I probably need to carry more food than I do. I only carry about 3 days worth. I think if I can get my wife and son to carry their own med kits I can shrink the size of the huge med kit I carry.
They might complain till they need something out of it. Then you won't hear a peep.
mackdaddy1911a1 Hehe, I hope you're right. About right now the only hope I have of them taking their rucks seriously is for them to get into some kind of trouble and need the items inside. Until then, they're going to continue considering me the nutcase paramilitary crackpot of the family...
Detman101 don't feel lonely. Kimo used to participate, even went camping with us...once. "It's to hot". or " Take me to a REAL bathroom". But she was a good sport at the time. I did't wake up with an ice pick in my eye.
mackdaddy1911a1
Wow, well..she gave it a try. Thats about all one can ask. I'll just keep at it and hope they'll get on board...hehe.
If you have a military canteen always have a canteen cup in it every canteen must have a cup with it
Can't argue with your point.
For me the synthetic material of the three piece sleep system Feels very uncomfortable.
Man! Nice Kit.. I'ma post a loadout of mine.. That's what's up!
+Marion Robinson IV good deal. I have already got a lot of great suggestions and helpful advice since uploading this video.I know my kit needs some work and the suggestions I got were all helpful. I will check your load out and learn even more. Thanks for watching.
Get rid of the Texsport Chinese shovel, use a real Gi issue shovel.
I didn't see a poncho and poncho liner, i also pack a small hand saw.
I have that same tomahawk, the steel chiped on the edge when I used it on some pine limbs.
Pine is a soft wood so, i was surprised. I now use a Eswing tomahawk, it's heavy but is better steel. I may use a camp axe for extended hunting into late fall, if I think i may have to do some heavier axe work.
I have several different US and foreign military and commercial packs but non are perfect.
One of my fovorites is the large alice pack. And web gear.
I am drawn back to it because of the simple top load design, the dry bag to keep my spare clothes in. And it's ergonomics with the web belt and harness with the butt pack and canteens.
I also use it on my mule deer hunts in the mountains.
I destroyed that texsport from normal use. One time. It failed. Old video. I have upgraded much of the stuff but the pack I will hang on to. Alice is hard to beat.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video. I seem to have a combination betweenLC1one backpack LC2 to shoulder straps and kidney belt On what I believe to be an LC one frame can you help me out with that at all?
Joseph Malone I gave the pamphlet I had on the different gear to a buddy of mine several years ago and he "misplaced it". I know there is a Large pack with the 3 small pouches and 3 large pouches. The medium with only the 3 large pouches but I am not sure about different straps or frame. Sorry I couldn't't be of more help. Thanks for watching. I will try to find out and post a video this weekend. Good luck.
+Joseph Malone Perhaps it's a ruck that someone "Frankensteined" together. I've heard of military guys doing that, mixing and matching kit to suit their personal preference. I seem to remember hearing of a guy put a large MOLLE 2 frame on a large ALICE, or something like that ( it's been a while since I heard or read that, so details are hazy ). Perhaps you have a similar ruck, just a guess
Lastly, I'm developing a combat clothing line that allows the warrior to 'wear' a lot of the more pliable items all around the body. You can carry a ton without added fatigue & added padding ( across the shoulders ) if it's properly dispersed, and why not use gloves, knit caps, etc. as knee & elbow pads in reinforced pockets, just for starters... enuff sayin' for now... except, keep up with the great vids!!
+oldfmfcorpman thank you very much. I will have a new video up shortly with some new items. Several that you covered. I am open to new things and better ways. I hope to continue to learn for the rest of my life. So again thank you and I appreciate your hard won Wisdom.
Hey Buddy .... I love it. Ya know I gots to do another vid resp. Love it man
Man this video is OLD. Got a lot of good tips and have changed some stuff I had in it. Here is the link to the newer video. th-cam.com/video/yL7uuGrHg88/w-d-xo.html&list=PLLsNifs4wsD9scOvIWOjAKY57q3r_cLtM . Still a work in progress, now all I need is a mule to haul it around.
I didn't see any Q-Tips for smearing that grease around, you need to get another canteen cup, never fails when you need it you forgot it, love at the end you admit that it's a heavy bag an you don't really want to tote it far, my hats off to you Bro for your honesty, now if others would heed your advice, cut those MRE'S down, remember the mantra, ounces = pounds= pain, it's a journey of learning.
My next video series will be on how the N Vietnamese hauled all that gear down to the south and what we can take away from it. How we can copy them. I have shed some weight but not enough. So I am going to explore Old School ways of doing it. Thank you for the comment and for watching.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Yeah Bro, I grew up in that era, a bike was a wonderful pack mule back then, necessity is the mother of invention, an you gotta hand it to them, they were innovative back then, looking forward to your series, thx for the vid.
How about a small folding saw , a bore snake and chunk the rods , you can use the 550 cord for boot laces , water filter [sawyers are cheap at wally world ] did not see a flashlight , mash the ramen noodles up and put in a zip lock bag or plastic jar , you can carry more and will make less noise , a small fishing kit could come in handy ... Hope this helps , good job take care and God bless ...
For the video I should have included the stuff from the assault pack. The contents of which are from the large pack. Thanks for the suggestions. I have been considering an Otis kit to cover the rifle. As far as a folding saw I have a Coglan's Sierra 180 folding saw, hands down the best hand saw I have ever used. Fishing kit, I'll have to get a kit together. thanks.
15 min in and i count 4 med kits that may be a bit much
+Jordan Hyland guilty. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I'll be motivated to reorganize it and consolidate.
+Jordan Hyland
Better safe than sorry!
but it's a repro Alice pack isn't it?
What is the large med bag (with red cross) on the side of the bag and where do you get them?
standard first aid supplies. I think at walmart. I drew the red cross on it with sharpie markers.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Thanks, man. I pack med and ammo heavy and a bag like that on each side of my rucks would give me plenty of extra both ( AK 30 round mags in 1 and meds in the other ). They seem to be the very thing for the job of adding to what's on my plate carrier and MOLLE pouches on my rucks Do they MOLLE on? If not, I can always use Gear Snake, Gear Cobra, Slick Sticks, Para Cord, Titan Cord, rope, or wire, many ways to attach to MOLLE loops. It's easy to get creative ;)
@@cthulhu6697 no it has the old school ALICE clips. But the pack has wide attachment loops. Any of your ideas would work with these pouches.
I don’t go in the Maine woods without my Alice, last season hunting bear, I was grateful I had my ;40 glock in my Alice, as I needed it to finish off my bear, long story, very grateful
+hcchang99 A .40 caliber on a bear? Did you have to empty he mag into it? My normal CCW gun is a Glock 23 .40 caliber ( sometimes a Sig Saur P229 chambered in .40 caliber and sometimes a Glock 30 .45ACP ). When it comes to pistols, I'm a .45ACP guy, but the .40 cals in a belly band holster [especially the Glock 23] with a couple extra, high capacity mags loaded with 180 grain Hydra Shoks gives me 40 rounds of "around town" protection, or 31 rounds of bigger, harder hitting rounds with the Glock 30 loaded with 230 grain Hydra Shoks and they're so light you almost don't notice that you're carrying enough power to deal with any realistic encounters. I don't really hunt these days, but when I do hunt ( or go traipsing around the woods ) I normally carry a Magnum caliber revolver, usually a .44 Magnum, and something like a .30-06 Springfield 1903, 8mm German Mauser K-98 ( I like my WW2 bolt actions for hunting or a walk in the dense woods around my house, we have some big critters up here in the mountains of the South ) SKS, AKM, H&K G3, etc....... What rifle do you prefer for hunting bear?
Correction I meant TH-cam. Joe M
What camo is that? What nation of origin is that camo and pack?
That is originally an American Large ALICE pack. it was originally olive drab. I used fabric markers and fabric paint and created my own pattern. Thanks for noticing.
mackdaddy1911a1 almost looks like flectarn german camo, you did a good job
BrownBessOwner thank you. The Germans know their camouflage.
Lol Dr. Suess socks haha
Great video Buddy. Get a small diameter inner tube, cut a piece and roll that over your Zippo. You can now immerse the Zippo in water and it will light. Yeah, Good ole wooden matches in 35 mm film canisters and a Zippo are my first go to's before a Ferro Rod. I pack more than I should, but go by the Bush Code. 2 is one, and one is none. I have a med Alice, need to upgrade to the large at some point. I have heard people put down Military Surplus. That's BS. Military is some of the best gear you can get. FK this Titanium shite. I'm old school even if adds a couple of extra lbs to my pack. I also need to get some decent load bearing web gear. Ya know, a guy has to carry ammo and such. I like the thought you put into your extra terminal gear. In a SHTF total Survival Situation, there will be folks like us, and those that will running around looking for their next Star Bucks Latte's.
Terry Ashton After some great suggestions I updated the contents but it still needs work. Thanks for the kind comments. Thanks for watching.
Have one clean canteen made of stainless steel to boil water or at least a bush pot.
ARRRRRGHHH!!! Not the Tex-Sport shovel!!
Hehehe...
this video took over 14 hours to upload so I did the shovel one first. A lot shorter and faster to upload.
mackdaddy1911a1
Ahhhh, okay...I see.
At first I started laughing thinking it made it back into your ruck....hehe.
Detman101 Not even as a boat anchor would I have put it back. LOL it's that sorry.
mackdaddy1911a1
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!
Yeah, they're horrible!
+mackdaddy1911a1 I've been considering a large ALICE ruck since Coleman's Military Surplus has brand new, large ALICE rucks with the frame, in MARPAT (Marine Pattern ) camo for $60. Even the large ALICE has always seemed like a pretty small ruck for long term B.O.B./I.N.C.H. packs, should the need arise. But, since I blew my knee about 22 years ago (life-long chronic pain patient that hurts more and more as I get older ), and I'll be 46 in a couple of months, humping around with my ILBE with the assault pack and all kinds of MOLLE pouches attached would be killing my knee if my truck became immobile and I had to carry everything, I've loaded my LAPG Atlas 72 ( wanted a 5.11 Rush 72 or Savotta Sarma TST 80 but way too expensive ) with adjusted load and making full, good use of the MOLLE. While browsing You Tube for large ALICE rucks I saw your video and the 1911A1 in the channel name, I figured we probably think a lot alike. We do, so I watched your video first.
I'm a .45ACP ( for pistols ) and AK and .308 guy for rifles ( screw a 9mm pistol, 5.56 rifle and the other "maybe" rounds. .40 caliber is the minimum for pistols in my book, 7.62/30 cal for rifles. Sure, the weapons, rounds, and mags are heavier, but you don't need to expend as much ammo on a threat ), so we think alike on a lot of stuff. Like you, I believe in redundancy of everything and you're among the few people that mentions carrying a cleaning kit for your guns, or even mentions bringing lots of firepower in case you need it I have 2 vests/chest rigs, a Spetznaz vest which is set up for AK 47/AKM, and a surplus LBV/FLC which I have set up for .308. Both are equipped with a bunch of extra, high capacity mags, med bags ( being a chronic pain patient with panic disorder, I don't screw around when it comes to my meds, and my trauma kits aren't the "boo boo" kits you see in many videos) and stored with corresponding rifles. I keep a pistol belt with a Glock 21 and plenty of high capacity mags at the ready, along with a belly-band holster with a compact .40 cal and couple of extra mags for CCW so all I have to do is put on a vest, pistol belt, sling a rifle and ruck on, grab the other vest and rifle and I can be on my way in minutes. Seeing all the stuff you fit into that large ALICE has led me to consider picking up a $60 large ALICE. My main questions are 1). Would my MOLLE gear attach to ALICE ruck attachment points? And 2). How much gear/weight can it's lid pocket carry ( I've heard they can be loaded with a lot of stuff )? Also, what kind of med pouch is that big one on the side of your ALICE? Thanks for the tip about using oil for the cotton balls in your fire bag, I hadn't thought of that. I do include a pen can of WD 40 in my fire bag, as well as some German gun cleaning wicks (Coleman's has 1000 wick cases for cheap ) in both my fire bag and my Swiss gun cleaning kit that's good for 30-50 calibers. I like to pack enough extra ammo to reload every mag for everything I carry at least twice ( I use a kitchen vacuum sealer and the rolls of Mylar for it, make the size bags I want, and use masking tape and a Sharpie to label them according to caliber, number of rounds per bag, grain weight, bullet type, etc....... Thought I'd offer some tips I find useful in case it's something you didn't think of, most people don't realize how much ammo you can use even breaking contact with a superior force and, if a societal collapse is the case, who can say when you can find more ammo. The book I carry is the field sized S.A.S. Survival Guide). Anyway, good video and thanks if you answer. Stay cool :)
Any tips that are delivered with respect vs condemnation is always welcome. I continue to learn, though not every good piece of advice works for my set up or in every situation. BUT it all adds to the wealth of knowledge and is very much appreciated.
In every war of the 20th century the planners were ALWAYS wrong about how much ammunition would be required. Especially in the American army since World War 1. Semi automatic weapons made the situation worse/ better depending on your point of view. More volume less accuracy.
As I have stated in many of my videos a minuteman will not have the luxury of a resupply chopper or truck. Caches will be essential.
Have you ever thought of a cart you could pull or a bike? Remember the Vietnamese used bikes to haul HUGE amounts of gear down the Ho Chi Min trail into S. Vietnam. The Japanese and yes even The American army and MARINES used carts to move gear over the Stilwell/Burma Rd and New Guinea, etc. NutNFancy did a Bugout video pulling a game cart. He was moving 90 pounds of gear and supplies. I am going to do some experiments this spring with a bike and cart as a proof of concept. To see if I can get it to work well enough to warrant the effort.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 Oh yeah, I have a wheeled cart with multiple large shelves. I think I could get 90 pounds or more onto it and it would fit, along with my gear, weapons, meds, several big Jerry Cans of gas etc....... in the back of my truck/SUV if a "bug out" was necessary ( the back seats of the SUV would be in the garage, but I would keep the seat padding. Lots more comfy than a military, 5/16" sleep pad, and I'd sleep in the SUV, only lashing y sleep gear in the compression bags if I had to abandon the vehicle for some reason )
Given where I currently live, way up in the mountains of NC ( Great Smokies, near the Great Smokies National Park/Forest and Pisgah National Forest ) on a large tract of heavily wooded and rugged private land, in a house that's hard to even find, 1 way in [steep hill and dirt and gravel road], abundant hunting and fishing, 2 wells, arable land for food and my pain meds boosting opium poppies [shhhhhh ;) ], I think I'd be more likely to fortify and bunker in.
I have plenty of guns, ammo/mags ( I grew up shooting and collecting guns for the better part of almost 46 years, buy surplus ammo by the cases, reloading bench with turret press, you get the idea ), meds, gear, and so on, plus a knowledge of wood/bush craft, etc....... I think my chances would be a lot better to get a close group of the several people I trust ( and they are few ) together, even the ones who think I'm weird for prepping and having so much in the way of weapons, ammo, supplies, and so-on, and protect the homestead. We have the room and resources, so we'd probably do better fishing, hunting, farming, defending and looting if a Mad Max societal collapse happened (and we all will eventually become looters, robbers, and even killers when necessary if we want to live).
Oh, curious as to what you'd grab if you had to bug out. I figure the large Alice would be your main ruck, basically packed as in the video with some extra goodies, but what about if you had to grab your ruck, the cart, 6 or 9 or so guns, however many knives, bayonets and various weapons tac-vest/plate carrier/chest rig ( your choice ), mags, ammo, meds ( we'll assume you have serious meds and trauma kits, plus general survival gear ), but, with stuff you own, what and how much in terms of vests, guns, mags, ammo? It's fun to think about ( I think so, anyway ), and what would you be driving ( we'll assume tools, Jerry Cans of gas, Fix-A-Flat, that kind of stuff )? Curious to see how you'd arm and kit up if you had to load a vehicle's worth of tac gear, weapons, ammo, mags, etc....... , what the mackdaddy would take on the societal collapse with. Think about it, take stock of the stuff you've got ( and stuff you're fixin' to get ) and reply. Anxious to read your tac gear
maybe better organization in the pack
I agree. I don't drag this monster out very often. It sits on the ready rack just encase its needed or to rotate gear/clothing.
No need safety kit just camp out behind the hospital lol..or if really don't feel good camp out behind the morgue lol
This doesn't seem to be an ALICE pack. And never have I.seen that camo pattern on U.S. equipment maybe WW2 or Korea era but not after Vietnam which the ALICE pack was after Vietnam
And afaik they dont have 6 pockets just 3, and I think they aren't in the same location. I was hoping to see other comments like this. I could be wrong but I think this isn't ALICE. I recently saw a few ads for ALICE packs they aren't really ALICE but were advertised as such
Ok update...I see in another video you painted it
The camo pattern is home made. I used sharpie markers and cloth paints. So far it is holding up. It was faded olive drab.
@@mackdaddy1911a1 yeah I just recently saw another video and changed my comment lol
From a reconnaissance corpsman to you, a maxi pad is not near as effective as it’s been told to be my friend. Find something better before it costs you or someone else’s life
Please...
How far do you think your going to get with that 75 lb pack of BS on your 5’ 140lb self.?
Dial that thing down to a medium and throw half that shit away.
A ton of stuff makes no difference if you can carry it more than a 1/4 mile.
I expected you to pull a Volkswagen out of that thing next
I will give you a historical reference. The North Vietnamese army. At my age with my job, hauling 30 pounds will probably kill my butt. Here is another one, Horsepower.... literally. I have been riding all my life and that includes mules. Why would I walk? Dude I drive a truck. Tuck drivers were originally known as teamsters. In other words, they drove wagons being pulled by Teams of horses, mules, oxen, etc. Damn all that walking.
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Then why set up a pack that is Clearly over 60lbs that straps on your back?
You’ve got an entirely unrealistic, overweight setup with the intention of not using it, you seem to be saying.
To give you some historical reference, during the 80’s in the 10th mountain infantry we were still periodically training using mules.
And we didn’t strap framed backpacks to them.
Since a mule can typically haul a few hundreds pounds, even with two large ALICE packs overstuffed the way you have them, you’d still be under loading the animal.
I’m not saying it’s not possible,... but if you’re Planning for a long term type deployment, then why Plan on under loading the animal?
I’m just wondering.
If you have a backpack setup, then you should have it setup in a fashion that you can actually utilize.
And the rule for a mule is basically the same as for a person.
Only load about 20% of your (well conditioned) body weight on your back if you intend to hump it all day, and expect to do it the next day (and the next day) too..
Not just my opinion.
@@DmakAttack I have a small pack for patrols, over night , etc. The large pack is intended for long term sustainment. If I need to leave my home. Nothing I can carry will sustain us for long with out the tools or skills to hunt or gather natural foods. The North Vietnamese moved mountains of supplies on bicycles. The Japanese did the same and the British and Americans used carts.
The pack contains it, a bike will transport it and if my idea works will allow me to relay the pack and it's contents over obstacles then come back for the bike. A work in progress. Not perfected yet but a viable way to move way more than I can simply carry in a ruck.
Depending on the situation there is always automobiles, 4 wheelers, Lawn tractors, and adult tricycles.
The most important thing I think is to not restrict ourselves to only one way to escape or evacuate or resupply ourselves. Ideas evolve as experience teaches.
The situation will dictate not only the method of transport but the type of route. An emp will eliminate most but a single horse or mule or cow can pull a wagon or cart or trailer a hell of a lot heavier than it can carry. So can a man or men. But again the situation will dictate whether it is feasible.
I guess what I am saying is I am not simply thinking of a tactical situation but of an evacuation brought on by natural or man made disasters. Maybe I am over thinking it . Trying to carry to much. For to many situations. Thank you for the stats and advice. I am not ignoring it just thinking of multiple scenarios and multiple modes of transport other than carrying in on my back.
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I’m guess I should apologize..
I didn’t realize you’re simply engaging in a fantasy game you seem to call survival.
You clearly have no plans, just a big pack of stuff you picked up at Walmart..and now live in some fantasy that when “The shit hits the fan” you are somehow going to do something other than be a victim of it and, instead, are going to “escape and live off the land”.
I would encourage you to see the reality of your age and general physical condition.
I would encourage you to stay at Home.
Seriously.
This silly fantasy of you “somehow” “bugging out” to this place you clearly don’t have would most likely end in a worse situation for you.
Instead of this childish foolishness, maybe get more involved with your community and do what you can do to make sure one of these terrible scenarios you fantasize about Never happen.
That’s probably a better and more realistic survival plan.
@@DmakAttack never said that the plan was to escape. I said the situation will dictate the how and the what. I will stay put if possible. Or move out if needed. By the best method available . All plans must also take into account the other people that I do not want to leave behind. For instance , kids, wife , etc. So I may not be as realistic in my thoughts on the subject but by the same token, are you? Are you going to leave them behind or find a way to either take them with you or sit tight and create a community of family ,friends, and neighbors to work together to survive?
Dude wth man that’s way to much shit