A post release analysis of Navia in Genshin impact 00:00 1st: Frontload 04:17 2nd: Rot Flexibility 07:04 3rd: Team Flexibility Business Mail: gscientist99@gmail.com Affiliated to Yomiholic #genshinimpact
100% true Also i doubt spreadsheet counts all her damage , like i am sure no spreadsheet counts that in AoE she gets more crystalize shards cause each enemy can drop one per application which makes her damage higher
75% means 25% of times you use the skill will not crit. That's normal. And of course people who send videos will only send the ones where they crit... that's pretty common sense my guy.
@@lostrefugee That's just how it is with nukers...... I even saw a Genshin championship today where the competitor geared his Navia to have 98% crit rate and she still missed 2 crits out of the 10-12 she fired, it was very funny
Navia honestly became my favourite character in the game , her playstyle is extremely fun , her damage is extremely high , her design is my favourite in the game and she's actually one of the few characters in the game who actually extremely well written
@@kingdoom5022 blud changed his statement 😭😂 still we are not the same, she's my favourite character when I saw her in Fontaine's teaser not her teaser 🤣
I second this. I was so worried she'd end up like Deyha because she's comparable in terms of looks, story, and likability. At least for me. I'm so happy Navia turned out great overall.
I was in the group of "I don't want her", 3 minutes after the test run i was rolling the gacha, she is extremely fun...i've been playing for 3 years and she is the first character that made me change my mind just with a test run XD
At first, I wasn't planning to pull for her, but after I tested her, I pulled for her immediately. She's a very fun character to play, and I really enjoyed her playstyle
hehe absolutely the same for me. i just decided never to listen to theorycrafters ever again, this time for real. they never know what they're talking about. i lost 50/50 to qiqi but i scrapped my world for all it's worth and now i'll reach pity 80 by the end of the banner. i'd have to be real unlucky not to walk out with navia on my main account. but if i do, i'll pull her on my second account, i don't even care.
@@GenshinYuppe "never to listen to theorycrafters ever again"? then why are you here in a theorycrafter video? to mock them? Just use theorycrafting as a *GUIDE,* it is NOT a be-all and end-all scripture to follow.
YES. It's a relatively short cd already and the 2 stacks make it feel even shorter. Also, it's so good when I manage to line up the enemies and shoot the perfect shot through them all. lul
I feel like at this point some people say she's mid just to justify skipping her, convincing yourself that a character is bad to not get it and trying to do it with other people who actually want it is not gonna change reality bro 😂
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz yeah its only damage per screenshot. nothing special about it. yeah she good but its not god tier unit whatsoever. her overall dps still lower compare to other dps.
Navia is the 2nd character from Fontaine I had planned on skipping and then after using them in their trial I completely changed my mind and pulled them. First was Neuvilette. I swear Fontaine as a whole is just built different.
Fontaine is a curse ,i only planned to get furina and arlechinno at first ,ended up with lyney ,c0r1 Neuvillette,furina and navia - finally after all these years ubforged is claimed and now I'm thinking to go for cloud retainer - just co-op shenanigans are worth it alone .I will never have constellations on my mega meta characters it seems.....not that i ever needed them ,this game is too easy 😅
Neuvillette gameplay is boring af, just biden blast until everything is dead. With Navia she can be played quick swap or extend her field time with a 3rd skill + infused normals, and she doesn't lose the ability to dodge, much more fun and flexible imo
@TGS Great video! Really informative. Got one question tho. Are you planning on making a video about using Navia with C0 or C2 Neuvilette? Because I saw that in your Neuvilette & Navia theorycrafting video you mentioned in the comments that she would be better than fischl in C2 Neuvilette teams on Petra set giving Neuvilette more damage but also making up for the fischl damage by nuking with Skill. Keep up the good work🤙
I planned to save for Cloud Retainer for my Furina team but I just find her so much fun to play from the demos and versatile with many teams so I pulled for her. Can't wait to build her soon
i think people just become too inflexible when it comes to valuating a "dps" characters. You either a hyper carry like xiao or a off field like xingqiu and thats it. So if the character cant extreemly extend their field time or cant extreemly off field, the character automatically evaluated as a bad dps.
Really such a fun character both in characterization and kit design. I was already going to pull her, so I’m happy she turned out as strong as she did. Right now she’s tied at the hip with Furina though because I have an amazing MH set for her and am undecided if to farm the new signature set. I have the resin just don’t know if it’s worth.
I really loved her design and character, so I was planning on picking her up anyway. But man, is she fun to play, and she feels complete and performs at C0 without any real pressure to pull beyond that, which is really refreshing. Her signature weapon is so badass as well. I'm so glad she wasn't another Yae Miko.
Cloud retainer looks neat for exploration, I went for Navia and she hits like a truck. I think her signature weapon is the most beautiful design in game, overall she’s at 60 crit rate and 230 crit damage - the one thing I’ll say is she CAN feel scuffed if her crit rate isn’t up there lol
So glad I had god tier luck with her banner! First time having the character and their weapon on their first banner! I usually need to wait for rerun to get wep! Got her and wep within 35 pulls plus 3 more 5 stars
I knew from the first time i read her kit she was going to be amazing. It’s honestly crazy that her element caused so many people to overlook the numbers.
I was planning on saving for raiden (really just for chevreuse but might as well get raiden too) but during the event I couldn’t help but enjoy her kit so much (not even the numbers just the feeling of her kit) so I pulled… and got C2 Dehya…. Dehya is also the only 5 star that I have cons for from losing the 50/50 3 times :///
I've been playing her a lot with Furina - Ningguang - Kokomi. Kokomi on tenacity and TTDS with Ning on maiden and prototype amber (full party healer geo unit, yay). I don't burst on Kokomi in this team, she is just there for jellyfish hydro, big attack buffs, and that additional healing keeping my Navia from dying if my crystalize shields drop off for too long. Both very hard to kill and does a ton of damage. Only limiting factor is that jellyfish is stationary, like Bennet. But I can sacrifice a little comfort and go with Mona for more mobility and a heavier front-load nuke if needed. The Ning healing is still just enough to keep the team viable if I don't get slapped around too much.
I love reactions, specially hyperbloom, or hutao vape, but I still pulled for Navia, because she hits hard without any specific requirements for her team. I just consider Ninguang a ver good sub-dps for her, because of her jade screen and the particles she generates, but is not mandatory.
I haven’t been this temped by someone I already wrote off in a long time. I was thinking of getting furina (then I burned my reserve to get baizhu to make her bearable) and then save for neuvillete rerun. Now I am thinking of blowing a 50/50 on navia after the event battle with zhongli double pyro. She’s so fun to play.
I think Navia's geo infusion and burst are there to help her produce more shards so she can maximize her skill damage, which is her main source of damage
She's as strong as I expected, but I expected her to be a lot less interesting because of her element, so I was pleasantly surprised by how interesting her playstyle and figuring out her rotations are.
In multiple target wise, glad that you can basicaly add one anemo either Venti or Kazuha to keep them in one place. I tested her in the recent event with Venti, Albedo and Rosaria she hit like a truck on multiple enemies. She pretty much my go to plan in the future with sacrificial greatsword when her rerun appear for maximun nuke and less energy problem to swap Albedo with other unit that benefit her elemental skill.
Based Sinnoh music in the background TGS ✨ Navia was the Fontaine character that I was the most excited about since the character leakflood and I hoped she would be geo. I was saving for her and her weapon but all the beta fiasco and people pushing that she had to be chained to Bennett and Xiangling made me go for Furina C6 instead with all my savings and would pick her up in her rerun after knowing what Chiori will do. But with some luck I managed to win her 50/50 and Navia is home as originally planned 🙏 She's definitely very fun and playing her ourselves is much better than seeing the tragic leaker gameplay. She definitely took a surprise with how flexible she is in teams which is something that I've been desiring for another geo damade dealer (as someone that mains Albedo and slots him anywhere outside of monogeo). I'm very happy that they can be paired together and have flexible rotations not gated to their bursts, and now with Furina supporting them that well, Bennett is the least of my concerns haha Looking forward to how she'll develop upon the future, hopefully in her rerun I can grab Verdict, the drip is just too good for her.
nah best way to describe her is 5 star ningguang. she feels exactly the same, except her "stone projectiles" aren't dumb and slow, and she does more damage.
For a long while, I was always getting 6 to 8 stars in floor 11 of Spiral abyss. Ik I have skill issues, but I rarely play Genshin, and I play 1 or 2 patches, get done with the new archon quest and take a long break until a new archon quest comes up. So my account is not well built either. But with Navia, I could do 9 stars in floor 11 and I clear floor 12, albeit with 6 stars. I think she can carry me long way into future patches
What I didn't think of was how much energy she could generate... Specifically for Noelle. Holy hell the Geo Particles she makes, they really feed Noelle so good!!! And if Noelle is the main carry in the team, Navia's Ult isn't as important. 9:31 We have Ning and Noelle. And I've been liking both with Navia a lot.
I promised myself I would resist the temptation of pulling for her because I really want to get my Raiden her c2, but TGS praising her while mocking Flip is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. I need this character!
I won the 50/50 and got her. She is my first Fontaine dps. But i am kinda scared i will lose my Nahida 50/50 now😢 wich would suck ass. I hope i can gather enough primos to guarantee getting Nahida she is gonna be a lifesaver for my account
I didn’t think anything could top Furina and Neuvillette’s kits, but she may be the most fun character for me to play. It’s funny how 2 weeks before her release, I got Wolf’s Gravestone on the standard banner and I thought, “WTF am I gonna do with this, I don’t even play Diluc?” Then I slap it on her, and I’m in heaven! Her, Bennett, Xiangling and Zhongli is a top2 or 3 team for me right now.
Im so happy that i choose her instead of Ayaka/Raiden as a New Player who just 2 month play this game. 2-set Berserker and 2-set Gladiator with CR circlet and try to find a lot of CR substats is kinda enough for early game. Even without Crit her shotgun still casually deals 3 - 10 times dmg then Kaeya's shotgun (and you don't need fakin energy to blast ur opponents) Its like a Heaven and Earth, also her NA combo is one of the best in this game according to GI Wikii in NA scalling section. But she is squishy, if u want go ungobunga u need shielder with her. For killing Coppelius in AR 45, u just need 1 rotation with cryo resonance team + Geo Traveler with just the real F2P kit (Gladiator set + Berserker set + full passive from R5 - Lvl 80 Ultimate Overload Smity Wabenjagermanjansen Sword + Food)
@@deathmetalcakefarts2751 ngl bro, its really paid off man when i just keep my world level 3 for a month (due to can't easily clear normal boss and really hard to clear talent books or weapon ascend domain) and being burden for others. That's such a pain. And know at least i can do with my own some content in this game and not relying a lot to my friends (although i still need that) . Im really happy they want to help me in my beginning, but i wont to keep sucking their time
I really think that Navia is a start of a new or improved Geo gameplay. With Ningguang as the first Geo ATK scaler and now Navia. Add to it that Navia's teams rewards multiple elemental setups which really goes well if you decide to forego the double geo and double pyro setup. The thing is that Navia can only get better from this point on because of potential supports that will arrive. I also think that Navia can be a start of how hoyo will improve the claymore gameplay to keep up with DPS checks.
what are you even going on about? navia is great and a lot of fun, but she's isn't really stronger than the other geo dpses. she has about the same output but way worse AOE.
can you tell me just how much better you think she is compared to your pre release analysis? You mentioned how Noelle could do more damage while having better AoE but from my experience Navia simply clears stuff faster even in the abyss 12-1 without her sig weap or her BiS arti set..
Noelle is sustain dps and she trade it up for being the tankiest character in the game as well as having screen wide AoE. But that also mean if you pass a certain damage thresh whole to front load one shot the floor as well as not having to care about survivability, Navia or any front load damage dealer is faster. Furina stacking buff also make Noelle become stronger at the later part of her rotation.
I think Noelle can be better if you're playing Navia with Furina and Yelan + Kazuha if you get the sig weapons on Yelan and Furina due to how massive of a dps boost those are in that team with their lower er needs. Navia shines more when paired with Bennet, Xiangling, and Navia to take advantage of buffs while other teammates are as well rather than providing healing for Furina buff to help buff your off-field damage dealers. I'd say Navia is better overall but don't think her best teams are better than traditional international and also uses Bennet and Xiangling.
Noelle does sustainable damage which means as time goes further on, Noelle does more especially with Navia having more opportunities to miss a crit on her valuable nuking skill. Navia is a more offensive option and quite as tanky except doesn't negate damage. Both excel in different scenarios, but why bother comparing when they can be played together? Thing is, Noelle has to be stacked with DEF to even consider dedicating the field time given to her for Navia, or you could probably unleash Navia at the tail end of Furina's burst and the beginning of her burst, as to not interrupt Noelle's purpose of continually healing.
In a noelle doble hydro (furina + yelan), noelle teams will do more dmg than navia teams. For monogeo or monogeo + furina noelle teams, navia teams do more dmg (they are not that far in team dmg)
he was right though. at least for c0 navia, idk about c6. give the short i uploaded today a peak to see noelle going. c0 navia can't keep up with that on the same conditions. (if you can, please upload a video of you doing it, more navia hype is always welcome!) I still don't have navia, but i'm on my way to soft pity. i want to try to replace albedo with navia on my noelle team 🤔 furina noelle navia gorou. not the best team for maximizing navia's personal damage, but not bad either.
Not gonna lie, before release I thought "Oh gee, another geo claymore user, I shall skip!". Then, on the day the release I tested her out and I was gladly surprised. She felt so fun to play (which was weird cause I don't usually enjoy playing claymore users onfield) and made up my mind. Too bad I lost the 50/50s in this run. I hope I get her in a rerun
I like her a lot in Noelle Navia Furina Fischl. I ignore her burst and focus on her E only, she works as a battery and sub dps, an Albedo upgrade. The team has no circle impact issues or backloaded damage, no significant cooldowns. It's very straight forward and practical. Works for AOEA and single target and is almost unkillable
if the nukes are smaller and divided then she's one step away from being a sustain DPS at low investment those two 200-250K nukes won't feel much different from the likes of itto or xiao or wanderer enemies usually have 600-900K HP so if you don't invest enough into her with a 5 star weapon and a really good set then she won't feel much different than other hyper carries imo she has greater potential the more you invest into her cuz she is a speedrunner's dream character i think if you get C2R1 she could really reduce clear time in abyss for your other team but below that she's just average
True, i have see people saying "she is the new best geo dps" and i literally try her best teams with itto instead (adjusting his er) and i get the same total team dmg 💀. A lot of people is too Influenced for the "big number = more dps"
@@cleod7439best geo dps? Lmao leave geo some stans even say she’s the best dps and gonna defend her to death like yea she’s good but not that good…to be considered broken she’s fun I will say that.
I don't have Zhongli nor Albedo, and I don't really plan on pulling for them. Could I still play Navia effectively? My Ning and Gorou are both only C1 [thank you TGS for the informative video as always!!]
You really don't need them. Navia doesn't need the typical geo team set up. She really benefits from having other elements in the team rather than going for the 3 geo setup with Gorou. You just want good elemental applicators to set up crystallize
I'm going to say Yes. Navia introduces a synergistic, and flexible, kit that is great to use with all elements because her ammunition is obtained from the generated crystallize shards. Having a combo of an additional geo, and some sort of non-anemo/dendro hero that can apply elemental reactions, will allow you to easily create shards to provide more ammo for her to hit massive damage numbers. She's also very f2p friendly since you've got access to the event claymore, or even certain crafted weapons can work since her multipliers are so high. Navia is not a straight Geo character that needs to be in a geo team, she's a universal shotgun with absurd front loaded damage that only needs 1 additional geo to help generate shards and provide energy for her burst. If you have any type of off-field non-anemo/dendro sub DPS, then they can do well in a Navia team.
If you have Furina, then Navia, Furina, (xingqiu or Yelan), Noelle works great. You get both hydro and geo resonance, enough healing for Furina burst, and every character in the team adds some significant dps.
I use navia with fischel, furina and Bennet. Yes maintaing health is a pain but that's only true for furina and just leave her at 50 sometimes. But my navia at lv 5 talent and 175 crit damage hits 90-100 k E crit depending on the fanfare. Fischel is on golden troupe and fav helps the whole team with particle gen also fits in nicely even with the 10 sec oz uptime. Furina is on pipe 1/8/8, golden troupe, enables me to use MH set while on fielding navia. Bennett on sapwood blade 1/1/8, 4 pc maidens. Upgrading talents should give me more Healing. Increasing damage even further
Hoyo once again showing the community that they only know and see half the picture. I never doubted Navia and what the company is trying to do for Geo. She is definitely the first of many future Geo units to push the crystallize agenda. Like it has been shown before, characters make the element and them releasing characters that work around their element will only keep pushing Geo in a good spot META wise. Can’t wait for Chiori leaks.
I agree with everything you said. I think she also has potential to shine with future dual carry setups with other geo characters. Maybe Chiori? Or even as a sub DPS Nuker. Really flexible, and her ult at the start of the rotation is the only thing you need as a solo Geo in her team to shine. If you can recharge her with two or three Es that’s really good!
My guy, level your NA talent, its only at 6, no wonder you feel like shes not doing much. Her normals easily do 35k on the umbrella hit at just level 8
So I pulled her. And with C2 Furina with freedom sworn, Bennett and Zhongli the team was pretty easy and straightforward to play. But I wasn’t really impressed with the damage for the supports that Navia was given. With those same three supports and just dropping in Lyney, Wanderer and Hu Tao two ( Tao and Lyney) of them cleared Simon, dendro birb and Cope faster than the Navia team. Wander obviously struggled against Cope. Interestingly enough My Yoimiya could do it faster on the first two bosses but she needed the stand on the side tech for Simon and good movement rng for the chicken. Cope was not good for her for some reason.
Yeah, I think Navia is indeed the best geo dps but overall she's more high mid tier dps wise. Other hypers use supports better and more flexible dps like Alhiatham, Neuv, and Hu tao also exist. I think she has more room for improvement if we get another quickswap geo dps since we currently lack any quickswap dps that work well with her lower field time but it will probably be awhile before that happens.
And that was against the side she's strong against. If you'd taken her to the other side, she'd have done even worse. That said, I'm hoping that Chiori will help in this regard. What I think holds Navia back most right now is the 2nd geo on the team. If we had a geo healer (that also had some offensive benefit), Zhongli and Benny could be booted, which would open up space for the likes of Yelan or Fischl, which I think would be overall superior to Benny.
I found that at C0, if you have 70+ CR, you will crit consistently. Give her a CR circlet. She seems to be high investment in terms of artifacts stats if you want her to be her best. Use your best two piece artifact pieces like ATK% and elemental skill DMG with good CR substats and see if that helps
This. This happens. My 2pc Glad 2pc Archaic Navia has 70 crit. Somehow misses half of them like she has 50 crit instead. In that way, I think Geo Traveler is an amazing teammate for her. The traveler would also run 2pc atk 2pc geo, and enough energy to have Burst ready on full uptime. C1 Geo traveler is like Traveler's best constellation among all traveler element constellations. And Rotation 2 and onwards, Geo Traveler also benefits from their own crit since with C6, their burst lasts 5 seconds longer than expiration and cooldown. Hopefully, Chiori comes out and we can instead opt for a double cryo team, using cryo resonance for more crits through a crystallization on Navia nuke skill. Was thinking Layla would be a very nice teammate once Bennett can be replaced with the likes of Chiori. WGS and the Unforged hint towards Navia being an attack scaling character that no longer hinges on Bennett, considering her insane atk anyways and preference for dmg bonus and other utility considering the amount of atk stacking claymores she has access to.
Another problem I found out about Navia is her critting. If you miss a few crits on units like Neuvillette or Xiao, it's fine, cause you do multiple hits either way, and your teamated can make up for those few missed crits. With Navia, if you miss crits on your E skill, oof, gl, cause her damage becomes really low
@@3.16music Kinda? At least it doesn't matter since the content we have in Genshin is so bad and doesn't require you to have that high damage, so it is fine for her. But if your acc is less invested, that could be a problem.
She was exactly what I expected her to be so Im just indifferent now that everyone has tested her. She would probably be fun if I get her but Im more interested in Cloud Retainer, aesthetically and for exploration.
It all rather depends on your box tbh, if you already have 2 teams somewhat built, you have zhongli + raidon + nahida, shes whatever for you. If you have nothing, she a very good choice, cheap to build, looks amd plays insane, theres no reason not to have her.
I mean that's what Albedo is, and we've seen how well that went. Granted yeah they could have made his skill and burst scale with the same stat, that would have been nice. Him not procking a useful reaction hurts his usefulness anyway.
@@twigz3214 Albedo's biggest problem is just that his flower is made of paper mache and instantly dies to anything that looks at it (and his burst is terrible). A Geo Yelan would make coordinated attacks without being stuck to a turret's range.
@@hedgeyes6411 Yeah his inconsistency also sucks, but is more often people just constantly misplacing his flower (some bosses it's near impossible, but most it's not and just needs good placement), think his damage could have also been a good bit higher since while it's fine it's not really good either.
@@hedgeyes6411i mean, that's not a problem when albedo flower range is one of the bigger in the game, and also have a 4 seconds cooldown to replace it (i use him agains the "robot dancers boss", they broke it but with navia you can replace it the one or two times they'll break it)
@@twigz3214 This is such a nothingburger statement, they were literally asking for Albedo and the "not useful reaction" is what Navia needed to proc Crystallize for her own ammo. Depending on the team, you can actually use his burst to make those Crystallized shields tankier and for the other two party members to benefit from. People who complain about his flower hitbox have huge skill issue because there's only one boss that completely destroys all Geo constructs while you can outsmart the other one with timing.
Navia is great because of her kit/multipliers. Not because she’s Geo. Just like Zhongli, Navia is a case of she is good _in spite of_ instead of _because of_ her element.
Personally I regret pulling her. I like her as a character but I don't like her play style. Especially since her skill often misses (I know it's skill issues), which hurts her performance really really badly. I really wanted to love her :(
She's a great character, no doubt about that, but I've ran into some issues while playing her: Her damage is a lot of the times rng, and depends on the enemy sizes and the amount of enemies there are on field (wasn't just me, jstern also found out about this), it is pretty easy to miss her E skill or just be too far away and do nothing, and playing her without a second geo option makes her ER requirements pretty high (even triple Favonius was not enough), and shard generation in solo geo was a problem, too. Not to mention that she's an ATK scaler and requires pretty high investment to clear compared to teams like Hyperbloom or Neuvillette carry. But doing that good without her bis support (Chiori)? That's really good.
TGS: "If in the future we get a Geo character that can alternate with her on-field and play in a quick-swappy way with her, then it will be great." You mean like Noelle? You keep forgetting about Noelle. Noelle utilizes auto-attacks, which enables Yelan/Xingqiu. She complements Navia's single-target nukes by providing AoE damage. Her team-healing enables Furina. She doesn't lose her burst after quickswapping, allowing you to use Navia's skill whenever you want - which also acts as a battery for Noelle, reducing her ER requirements. I've found Navia/Noelle/Furina/Yelan to be a remarkably effective team. I know it's heavy on 5-stars, but I don't understand why hardly any theorycrafters are even mentioning it.
@@AKDE83 It's a F2P consideration. Some players might not have the primos to get all those 5-stars, especially not Furina/Navia since there was only one banner inbetween them. Noelle has been available from launch, is guaranteed on the Beginner banner, and is available in the Shop. She's a relatively easy 4-star to C6, and if you've been playing for a while it's likely you've gotten a few of her cons along the way just from general wishes.
@@feenyx9130 i did not invent that statement, also i said faster, available from launch is irrelevant for someone that didn't start at launch, i'll repeat, 3 5 stars is faster to get than one C6 4 star. i know it's not your main point but trust me for newer player it's boring when people tell you to just use Xingqiu, noelle or sucrose like EVERYONE have their C6
@@AKDE83 I understand your point, and it's valid. I'm not disputing it. But you said "I don't get why you mention that" so I felt compelled to elaborate. And I stand by my original point - Noelle is a viable option for a Navia team and I don't see many people talking about that. By the way, I didn't originally mention C6 at all. While Noelle is certainly best at C6, she can still function as an on-field driver at C1 for a Furina team, though it's quite possible you have better options at that point, depending on your account. And since you brought it up, Sucrose and Xingqiu are also excellent characters even at low constellations, so I'm sorry if people keep telling you otherwise, or if you feel pressured to pull for constellations. Just be creative with what you have; there are tons of good teams in this game, even if they're not "optimal".
i'll try noelle her burst looks really fun and i love geo, but for xingqiu and sucrose, maybe you got their C6 long time ago and like many you overestimate their C0 but trust me, they are ass, and nobody told me that, abyss performance did, it's when i pulled navia and thus got the opportunity to use my C4 bennet/xiangling that i finally 36 stars the abyss after 3 months, sorry if i'm obstinate but for me the only "1.0 broken 4 star OMG" that's actually good at low cons is bennet @@feenyx9130
I wasn't going to pull for her, because I'm fairly new and want to get Raiden, but looks like I'm going to be shelling out some cash because imo Navia is a borderline must pull. Amazingly fun character.
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she is a good example of in game testing > theory 😎
absolutely true
I see people on yt with 60 cr hitting all that nukes. My Navia with 75 cr sometimes fails to crit.
100% true
Also i doubt spreadsheet counts all her damage , like i am sure no spreadsheet counts that in AoE she gets more crystalize shards cause each enemy can drop one per application which makes her damage higher
75% means 25% of times you use the skill will not crit. That's normal. And of course people who send videos will only send the ones where they crit... that's pretty common sense my guy.
@@lostrefugee That's just how it is with nukers...... I even saw a Genshin championship today where the competitor geared his Navia to have 98% crit rate and she still missed 2 crits out of the 10-12 she fired, it was very funny
Navia honestly became my favourite character in the game , her playstyle is extremely fun , her damage is extremely high , her design is my favourite in the game and she's actually one of the few characters in the game who actually extremely well written
how are you defining Navia from my pov-
She was my favourite from the moment I saw her on Fontaine's teaser, I'm not like you 😒
@@kingdoom5022 blud changed his statement 😭😂 still we are not the same, she's my favourite character when I saw her in Fontaine's teaser not her teaser 🤣
@@Ahraz09 oh ok lol
I second this. I was so worried she'd end up like Deyha because she's comparable in terms of looks, story, and likability. At least for me. I'm so happy Navia turned out great overall.
I was in the group of "I don't want her", 3 minutes after the test run i was rolling the gacha, she is extremely fun...i've been playing for 3 years and she is the first character that made me change my mind just with a test run XD
ikr! i mean, neuvillette also changed my plans, but navia is way more fun than him.
Me with Navia, Neuvillete and Furina, I don't regret anything 😂
Navia is the fist character to reach +100k dmg in test run, reaching like 160k lol
@@briceno9229 The damage was nice, but the gameplay was what made me roll for her..
She's doing 30k NA when infused with Geo on a meme build with talents 8/8/8 She's amazing
Haha, that's almost giving a C6 Noelle with a 4 star weapon a run for her money.
At first, I wasn't planning to pull for her, but after I tested her, I pulled for her immediately. She's a very fun character to play, and I really enjoyed her playstyle
hehe absolutely the same for me. i just decided never to listen to theorycrafters ever again, this time for real. they never know what they're talking about.
i lost 50/50 to qiqi but i scrapped my world for all it's worth and now i'll reach pity 80 by the end of the banner. i'd have to be real unlucky not to walk out with navia on my main account. but if i do, i'll pull her on my second account, i don't even care.
@@GenshinYuppe
"never to listen to theorycrafters ever again"?
then why are you here in a theorycrafter video?
to mock them?
Just use theorycrafting as a *GUIDE,* it is NOT a be-all and end-all scripture to follow.
@@gar4313 i'm here because it's a post-release analysis and there are no spreadsheet warrioring in it. otherwise i'd have bailed 30 seconds in
Her skill is ready basically all the time. It’s such enjoyable gameplay!
YES. It's a relatively short cd already and the 2 stacks make it feel even shorter. Also, it's so good when I manage to line up the enemies and shoot the perfect shot through them all. lul
I feel like at this point some people say she's mid just to justify skipping her, convincing yourself that a character is bad to not get it and trying to do it with other people who actually want it is not gonna change reality bro 😂
she sure as hell mid, her dmg is nothing special get over it
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz yeah its only damage per screenshot. nothing special about it.
yeah she good but its not god tier unit whatsoever.
her overall dps still lower compare to other dps.
Navia is the 2nd character from Fontaine I had planned on skipping and then after using them in their trial I completely changed my mind and pulled them. First was Neuvilette. I swear Fontaine as a whole is just built different.
Them? She is a girl.
true, I kept playing neuvilette on trial then i pulled him over furina, no regrets
Fontaine is a curse ,i only planned to get furina and arlechinno at first ,ended up with lyney ,c0r1 Neuvillette,furina and navia - finally after all these years ubforged is claimed and now I'm thinking to go for cloud retainer - just co-op shenanigans are worth it alone .I will never have constellations on my mega meta characters it seems.....not that i ever needed them ,this game is too easy 😅
why not both ?@@mickysaif
@@AKDE83 furina is useless for my acc, the only reason to get her is to play mono hydro kokomi or afk archon team
Your thumbnails are always so clean
nice to see somebody actually having a vision for practice and no bias with mob scenarios that don't even exist
u forgot to mention the debuff on her elemental skill that automatically reduces your crit rate by 90% whenever u use it >_>
😂😂
Same here buddy, at full stacks she don't crit, in Bennett's burst she don't crit, Girl why won't you crit in my wildest dreams.
Navia is actually more fun to play than Neuvilete for me
Neuvillette gameplay is boring af, just biden blast until everything is dead. With Navia she can be played quick swap or extend her field time with a 3rd skill + infused normals, and she doesn't lose the ability to dodge, much more fun and flexible imo
@@jofol1757biden blast😭
Agreed . Just got her weapon and now she's the most badass looking character in all of my 3 accounts lol@@jofol1757
@TGS Great video! Really informative. Got one question tho. Are you planning on making a video about using Navia with C0 or C2 Neuvilette? Because I saw that in your Neuvilette & Navia theorycrafting video you mentioned in the comments that she would be better than fischl in C2 Neuvilette teams on Petra set giving Neuvilette more damage but also making up for the fischl damage by nuking with Skill. Keep up the good work🤙
I planned to save for Cloud Retainer for my Furina team but I just find her so much fun to play from the demos and versatile with many teams so I pulled for her. Can't wait to build her soon
She finally helps me get 36 stars in the Abyss, i'm not very good at Abyss so it was always around 33-34, Navia's damage carry me thru all that.
i think people just become too inflexible when it comes to valuating a "dps" characters. You either a hyper carry like xiao or a off field like xingqiu and thats it. So if the character cant extreemly extend their field time or cant extreemly off field, the character automatically evaluated as a bad dps.
her math calculations prove her as mid, her dmg is nothing special, without r5 serpent spine or a 5 star weap its straight up bad
SLAY WITH THAT TITLE!!!
Wow,so excited ,its finally here
I love you, thanks for you work
Was waiting for this video. I myself underestimated her so much.
Really such a fun character both in characterization and kit design. I was already going to pull her, so I’m happy she turned out as strong as she did. Right now she’s tied at the hip with Furina though because I have an amazing MH set for her and am undecided if to farm the new signature set. I have the resin just don’t know if it’s worth.
I love Navia she so fun to play and she is one of my best dps now. Playing since game out btw.
Same, except I just got here last month. And hell, what a great time to start
Great work of art with the ayaka navia drawing
I really loved her design and character, so I was planning on picking her up anyway. But man, is she fun to play, and she feels complete and performs at C0 without any real pressure to pull beyond that, which is really refreshing. Her signature weapon is so badass as well. I'm so glad she wasn't another Yae Miko.
I've had a lot of fun using her in neuvis team as a quickswap and it helps that it feels like she doesn't NEED furina since I missed her
with the way cloud retainer is looking I might end up getting Navia and sticking with Jean
Cloud retainer looks neat for exploration, I went for Navia and she hits like a truck. I think her signature weapon is the most beautiful design in game, overall she’s at 60 crit rate and 230 crit damage - the one thing I’ll say is she CAN feel scuffed if her crit rate isn’t up there lol
jean and cloud are nothing alike lol
Same. Xianyun looks pretty mid. Unless Mihoyo shifts towards a plunge meta. Even then it isn't enough.
do it!! no regrets here. xianyun will be kind of niche in terms of meta and plunge attack gameplay isn’t for everybody (personally it is disorienting)
@@banjoowo4001they're both anemo, and can heal.. wdym nothing alike 😅
So glad I had god tier luck with her banner! First time having the character and their weapon on their first banner! I usually need to wait for rerun to get wep! Got her and wep within 35 pulls plus 3 more 5 stars
I knew from the first time i read her kit she was going to be amazing. It’s honestly crazy that her element caused so many people to overlook the numbers.
I was planning on saving for raiden (really just for chevreuse but might as well get raiden too) but during the event I couldn’t help but enjoy her kit so much (not even the numbers just the feeling of her kit) so I pulled… and got C2 Dehya…. Dehya is also the only 5 star that I have cons for from losing the 50/50 3 times :///
I've been playing her a lot with Furina - Ningguang - Kokomi. Kokomi on tenacity and TTDS with Ning on maiden and prototype amber (full party healer geo unit, yay). I don't burst on Kokomi in this team, she is just there for jellyfish hydro, big attack buffs, and that additional healing keeping my Navia from dying if my crystalize shields drop off for too long. Both very hard to kill and does a ton of damage. Only limiting factor is that jellyfish is stationary, like Bennet. But I can sacrifice a little comfort and go with Mona for more mobility and a heavier front-load nuke if needed. The Ning healing is still just enough to keep the team viable if I don't get slapped around too much.
nice video bro :)
I love reactions, specially hyperbloom, or hutao vape, but I still pulled for Navia, because she hits hard without any specific requirements for her team. I just consider Ninguang a ver good sub-dps for her, because of her jade screen and the particles she generates, but is not mandatory.
I haven’t been this temped by someone I already wrote off in a long time. I was thinking of getting furina (then I burned my reserve to get baizhu to make her bearable) and then save for neuvillete rerun. Now I am thinking of blowing a 50/50 on navia after the event battle with zhongli double pyro. She’s so fun to play.
I think Navia's geo infusion and burst are there to help her produce more shards so she can maximize her skill damage, which is her main source of damage
She's as strong as I expected, but I expected her to be a lot less interesting because of her element, so I was pleasantly surprised by how interesting her playstyle and figuring out her rotations are.
In multiple target wise, glad that you can basicaly add one anemo either Venti or Kazuha to keep them in one place. I tested her in the recent event with Venti, Albedo and Rosaria she hit like a truck on multiple enemies. She pretty much my go to plan in the future with sacrificial greatsword when her rerun appear for maximun nuke and less energy problem to swap Albedo with other unit that benefit her elemental skill.
I thought there's no such thing as sacrificial claymore..
@@Synexcu its sac spear that doesnt exist
Based Sinnoh music in the background TGS ✨
Navia was the Fontaine character that I was the most excited about since the character leakflood and I hoped she would be geo. I was saving for her and her weapon but all the beta fiasco and people pushing that she had to be chained to Bennett and Xiangling made me go for Furina C6 instead with all my savings and would pick her up in her rerun after knowing what Chiori will do.
But with some luck I managed to win her 50/50 and Navia is home as originally planned 🙏 She's definitely very fun and playing her ourselves is much better than seeing the tragic leaker gameplay. She definitely took a surprise with how flexible she is in teams which is something that I've been desiring for another geo damade dealer (as someone that mains Albedo and slots him anywhere outside of monogeo). I'm very happy that they can be paired together and have flexible rotations not gated to their bursts, and now with Furina supporting them that well, Bennett is the least of my concerns haha
Looking forward to how she'll develop upon the future, hopefully in her rerun I can grab Verdict, the drip is just too good for her.
She kinda feels like a Geo Keqing lol , both quick swapy with frontloaded dmg , which is a very fun and effective playstyle
nah best way to describe her is 5 star ningguang. she feels exactly the same, except her "stone projectiles" aren't dumb and slow, and she does more damage.
Well I pulled the minute after playing the trial on the patch launch.
For a long while, I was always getting 6 to 8 stars in floor 11 of Spiral abyss. Ik I have skill issues, but I rarely play Genshin, and I play 1 or 2 patches, get done with the new archon quest and take a long break until a new archon quest comes up. So my account is not well built either. But with Navia, I could do 9 stars in floor 11 and I clear floor 12, albeit with 6 stars. I think she can carry me long way into future patches
What I didn't think of was how much energy she could generate... Specifically for Noelle. Holy hell the Geo Particles she makes, they really feed Noelle so good!!!
And if Noelle is the main carry in the team, Navia's Ult isn't as important.
9:31 We have Ning and Noelle. And I've been liking both with Navia a lot.
Umbrella warfare I guess
I promised myself I would resist the temptation of pulling for her because I really want to get my Raiden her c2, but TGS praising her while mocking Flip is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. I need this character!
totally agree with all of this
Since anyone said something about it, I'll do... nice haircut bro 💪
She goes really well with ningguang quick swap shot gun
I won the 50/50 and got her. She is my first Fontaine dps. But i am kinda scared i will lose my Nahida 50/50 now😢 wich would suck ass. I hope i can gather enough primos to guarantee getting Nahida she is gonna be a lifesaver for my account
if you save now and if nahida is 2nd half 4.4 you will have enough to guarantee as long as you are able to complete all the content of 4.3 and 4.4
@@vincetan8449 Nahida is in 1st half
I didn’t think anything could top Furina and Neuvillette’s kits, but she may be the most fun character for me to play.
It’s funny how 2 weeks before her release, I got Wolf’s Gravestone on the standard banner and I thought, “WTF am I gonna do with this, I don’t even play Diluc?” Then I slap it on her, and I’m in heaven!
Her, Bennett, Xiangling and Zhongli is a top2 or 3 team for me right now.
also Navia has new fontaine tech same as Neuvy she does not suffer from genshin auto targeting.
Im so happy that i choose her instead of Ayaka/Raiden as a New Player who just 2 month play this game. 2-set Berserker and 2-set Gladiator with CR circlet and try to find a lot of CR substats is kinda enough for early game. Even without Crit her shotgun still casually deals 3 - 10 times dmg then Kaeya's shotgun (and you don't need fakin energy to blast ur opponents)
Its like a Heaven and Earth, also her NA combo is one of the best in this game according to GI Wikii in NA scalling section. But she is squishy, if u want go ungobunga u need shielder with her.
For killing Coppelius in AR 45, u just need 1 rotation with cryo resonance team + Geo Traveler with just the real F2P kit (Gladiator set + Berserker set + full passive from R5 - Lvl 80 Ultimate Overload Smity Wabenjagermanjansen Sword + Food)
I’d imagine she’s a phenomenal choice for newer players, she’s got mega damage for very little investment and she’ll only age better with chiori too ❤
always go for new character if you are new
@@deathmetalcakefarts2751 ngl bro, its really paid off man when i just keep my world level 3 for a month (due to can't easily clear normal boss and really hard to clear talent books or weapon ascend domain) and being burden for others. That's such a pain.
And know at least i can do with my own some content in this game and not relying a lot to my friends (although i still need that) . Im really happy they want to help me in my beginning, but i wont to keep sucking their time
ive just made her build without support and stuff at AR45 and it can solo everything with 50%crit 200% CD navia kinda strong
I pulled navia for 2 reasons. 1st her weapon is a 2h axe. 2nd i was hoping that Chiori will be her teammate.
I really think that Navia is a start of a new or improved Geo gameplay. With Ningguang as the first Geo ATK scaler and now Navia. Add to it that Navia's teams rewards multiple elemental setups which really goes well if you decide to forego the double geo and double pyro setup. The thing is that Navia can only get better from this point on because of potential supports that will arrive.
I also think that Navia can be a start of how hoyo will improve the claymore gameplay to keep up with DPS checks.
what are you even going on about? navia is great and a lot of fun, but she's isn't really stronger than the other geo dpses. she has about the same output but way worse AOE.
@@GenshinYuppehow navia has worse aoe, can I suggest watch this video, he showcases how to play navia in aoe scenerios
Good thing i never invested into geo be4 she dropped. Just wondering if i should build noelle to support her now 🤔
Not needed.
She feels like a more cohesive heizou
you have to be joking, Right?
I still don’t know if I should go for her or cloud retainer
reminds me of wanderer! i was really surprised by how practical both of them when you've got your hands on em
I really love easy 150k damage as f2p with an elemental skill❤
can you tell me just how much better you think she is compared to your pre release analysis? You mentioned how Noelle could do more damage while having better AoE but from my experience Navia simply clears stuff faster even in the abyss 12-1 without her sig weap or her BiS arti set..
Noelle is sustain dps and she trade it up for being the tankiest character in the game as well as having screen wide AoE.
But that also mean if you pass a certain damage thresh whole to front load one shot the floor as well as not having to care about survivability, Navia or any front load damage dealer is faster.
Furina stacking buff also make Noelle become stronger at the later part of her rotation.
I think Noelle can be better if you're playing Navia with Furina and Yelan + Kazuha if you get the sig weapons on Yelan and Furina due to how massive of a dps boost those are in that team with their lower er needs. Navia shines more when paired with Bennet, Xiangling, and Navia to take advantage of buffs while other teammates are as well rather than providing healing for Furina buff to help buff your off-field damage dealers. I'd say Navia is better overall but don't think her best teams are better than traditional international and also uses Bennet and Xiangling.
Noelle does sustainable damage which means as time goes further on, Noelle does more especially with Navia having more opportunities to miss a crit on her valuable nuking skill. Navia is a more offensive option and quite as tanky except doesn't negate damage. Both excel in different scenarios, but why bother comparing when they can be played together? Thing is, Noelle has to be stacked with DEF to even consider dedicating the field time given to her for Navia, or you could probably unleash Navia at the tail end of Furina's burst and the beginning of her burst, as to not interrupt Noelle's purpose of continually healing.
In a noelle doble hydro (furina + yelan), noelle teams will do more dmg than navia teams.
For monogeo or monogeo + furina noelle teams, navia teams do more dmg (they are not that far in team dmg)
he was right though. at least for c0 navia, idk about c6. give the short i uploaded today a peak to see noelle going. c0 navia can't keep up with that on the same conditions. (if you can, please upload a video of you doing it, more navia hype is always welcome!) I still don't have navia, but i'm on my way to soft pity. i want to try to replace albedo with navia on my noelle team 🤔 furina noelle navia gorou. not the best team for maximizing navia's personal damage, but not bad either.
I love Navia's NAs so I play her with Yunjin for them to be more impactful. With Furina, it deals nice damage and C6 Yunjin allow me to do 2N3 =D
can u cosplay navia and do crying asmr pls bro
Not gonna lie, before release I thought "Oh gee, another geo claymore user, I shall skip!". Then, on the day the release I tested her out and I was gladly surprised. She felt so fun to play (which was weird cause I don't usually enjoy playing claymore users onfield) and made up my mind. Too bad I lost the 50/50s in this run. I hope I get her in a rerun
Agreed
I like her a lot in Noelle Navia Furina Fischl. I ignore her burst and focus on her E only, she works as a battery and sub dps, an Albedo upgrade. The team has no circle impact issues or backloaded damage, no significant cooldowns. It's very straight forward and practical. Works for AOEA and single target and is almost unkillable
Does her skill hit multiple targets and does it pierce? Like if three hilichurls are grouped together will it hit all three for the total damage?
Yes. There's some splintered damage ofc compared to say fully unloading on one foe. But you'll still hit some chunky damage with having her built up.
I tested something interesting these days. Navia + Yoimiya Split DPS with zhongli and bennet :D
Could u use Sucrose with Navia???
if the nukes are smaller and divided then she's one step away from being a sustain DPS
at low investment those two 200-250K nukes won't feel much different from the likes of itto or xiao or wanderer
enemies usually have 600-900K HP so if you don't invest enough into her with a 5 star weapon and a really good set then she won't feel much different than other hyper carries imo
she has greater potential the more you invest into her cuz she is a speedrunner's dream character
i think if you get C2R1 she could really reduce clear time in abyss for your other team but below that she's just average
True, i have see people saying "she is the new best geo dps" and i literally try her best teams with itto instead (adjusting his er) and i get the same total team dmg 💀.
A lot of people is too Influenced for the "big number = more dps"
@@cleod7439best geo dps? Lmao leave geo some stans even say she’s the best dps and gonna defend her to death like yea she’s good but not that good…to be considered broken she’s fun I will say that.
I don't have Zhongli nor Albedo, and I don't really plan on pulling for them. Could I still play Navia effectively? My Ning and Gorou are both only C1 [thank you TGS for the informative video as always!!]
You really don't need them. Navia doesn't need the typical geo team set up. She really benefits from having other elements in the team rather than going for the 3 geo setup with Gorou. You just want good elemental applicators to set up crystallize
I'm going to say Yes. Navia introduces a synergistic, and flexible, kit that is great to use with all elements because her ammunition is obtained from the generated crystallize shards. Having a combo of an additional geo, and some sort of non-anemo/dendro hero that can apply elemental reactions, will allow you to easily create shards to provide more ammo for her to hit massive damage numbers. She's also very f2p friendly since you've got access to the event claymore, or even certain crafted weapons can work since her multipliers are so high. Navia is not a straight Geo character that needs to be in a geo team, she's a universal shotgun with absurd front loaded damage that only needs 1 additional geo to help generate shards and provide energy for her burst. If you have any type of off-field non-anemo/dendro sub DPS, then they can do well in a Navia team.
just use ningguang
If you have Furina, then Navia, Furina, (xingqiu or Yelan), Noelle works great. You get both hydro and geo resonance, enough healing for Furina burst, and every character in the team adds some significant dps.
I use navia with fischel, furina and Bennet. Yes maintaing health is a pain but that's only true for furina and just leave her at 50 sometimes.
But my navia at lv 5 talent and 175 crit damage hits 90-100 k E crit depending on the fanfare.
Fischel is on golden troupe and fav helps the whole team with particle gen also fits in nicely even with the 10 sec oz uptime.
Furina is on pipe 1/8/8, golden troupe, enables me to use MH set while on fielding navia.
Bennett on sapwood blade 1/1/8, 4 pc maidens. Upgrading talents should give me more Healing. Increasing damage even further
Hoyo once again showing the community that they only know and see half the picture. I never doubted Navia and what the company is trying to do for Geo. She is definitely the first of many future Geo units to push the crystallize agenda. Like it has been shown before, characters make the element and them releasing characters that work around their element will only keep pushing Geo in a good spot META wise. Can’t wait for Chiori leaks.
I asked for Navia, I got a C2 Qiqi. Still 0 50/50's won for 9 months straight
I did 1 year without winning a single 50/50 until Navia… Got her and her weapon
I agree with everything you said. I think she also has potential to shine with future dual carry setups with other geo characters. Maybe Chiori? Or even as a sub DPS Nuker. Really flexible, and her ult at the start of the rotation is the only thing you need as a solo Geo in her team to shine. If you can recharge her with two or three Es that’s really good!
I feel like TGS backtracked of Navia of what he said a while ago
Potential team name for Navia double Geo double Electro: Stun Gun?
My guy, level your NA talent, its only at 6, no wonder you feel like shes not doing much. Her normals easily do 35k on the umbrella hit at just level 8
So I pulled her. And with C2 Furina with freedom sworn, Bennett and Zhongli the team was pretty easy and straightforward to play. But I wasn’t really impressed with the damage for the supports that Navia was given. With those same three supports and just dropping in Lyney, Wanderer and Hu Tao two ( Tao and Lyney) of them cleared Simon, dendro birb and Cope faster than the Navia team. Wander obviously struggled against Cope. Interestingly enough My Yoimiya could do it faster on the first two bosses but she needed the stand on the side tech for Simon and good movement rng for the chicken. Cope was not good for her for some reason.
Yeah, I think Navia is indeed the best geo dps but overall she's more high mid tier dps wise. Other hypers use supports better and more flexible dps like Alhiatham, Neuv, and Hu tao also exist. I think she has more room for improvement if we get another quickswap geo dps since we currently lack any quickswap dps that work well with her lower field time but it will probably be awhile before that happens.
And that was against the side she's strong against. If you'd taken her to the other side, she'd have done even worse.
That said, I'm hoping that Chiori will help in this regard. What I think holds Navia back most right now is the 2nd geo on the team. If we had a geo healer (that also had some offensive benefit), Zhongli and Benny could be booted, which would open up space for the likes of Yelan or Fischl, which I think would be overall superior to Benny.
Her Only problem?
she never crits
I found that at C0, if you have 70+ CR, you will crit consistently. Give her a CR circlet. She seems to be high investment in terms of artifacts stats if you want her to be her best. Use your best two piece artifact pieces like ATK% and elemental skill DMG with good CR substats and see if that helps
@@keelangill4230 Good to be You because my 80% Cr Navia misses crit like I miss my 50/50s
@@Fam98KKThat is to push you to C2 her.
poor you then lol@@Fam98KK
This. This happens. My 2pc Glad 2pc Archaic Navia has 70 crit. Somehow misses half of them like she has 50 crit instead.
In that way, I think Geo Traveler is an amazing teammate for her. The traveler would also run 2pc atk 2pc geo, and enough energy to have Burst ready on full uptime. C1 Geo traveler is like Traveler's best constellation among all traveler element constellations.
And Rotation 2 and onwards, Geo Traveler also benefits from their own crit since with C6, their burst lasts 5 seconds longer than expiration and cooldown.
Hopefully, Chiori comes out and we can instead opt for a double cryo team, using cryo resonance for more crits through a crystallization on Navia nuke skill. Was thinking Layla would be a very nice teammate once Bennett can be replaced with the likes of Chiori. WGS and the Unforged hint towards Navia being an attack scaling character that no longer hinges on Bennett, considering her insane atk anyways and preference for dmg bonus and other utility considering the amount of atk stacking claymores she has access to.
Another problem I found out about Navia is her critting. If you miss a few crits on units like Neuvillette or Xiao, it's fine, cause you do multiple hits either way, and your teamated can make up for those few missed crits. With Navia, if you miss crits on your E skill, oof, gl, cause her damage becomes really low
So she's the second "Restart" queen?
@@3.16music Kinda? At least it doesn't matter since the content we have in Genshin is so bad and doesn't require you to have that high damage, so it is fine for her. But if your acc is less invested, that could be a problem.
7:17 because you have wolf grave-stone
I skipped all geo char without thinking much but navia made me instant pull just from the design
No she's better than the streamers thought. I form my own opinions.
There was no way she was gonna be bad based on the other Fontaine character that came out
do i pull for navia or raiden , i only have tighnari as a 5 star
in your case, raiden
Even the 40% Normal atk damage increase from A1 is not impressive to make her a hypercarry?
She was exactly what I expected her to be so Im just indifferent now that everyone has tested her. She would probably be fun if I get her but Im more interested in Cloud Retainer, aesthetically and for exploration.
It all rather depends on your box tbh, if you already have 2 teams somewhat built, you have zhongli + raidon + nahida, shes whatever for you.
If you have nothing, she a very good choice, cheap to build, looks amd plays insane, theres no reason not to have her.
Wish they roll out a geo Yelan, so you can get crystalize shards and off-field damage
I mean that's what Albedo is, and we've seen how well that went. Granted yeah they could have made his skill and burst scale with the same stat, that would have been nice. Him not procking a useful reaction hurts his usefulness anyway.
@@twigz3214 Albedo's biggest problem is just that his flower is made of paper mache and instantly dies to anything that looks at it (and his burst is terrible). A Geo Yelan would make coordinated attacks without being stuck to a turret's range.
@@hedgeyes6411 Yeah his inconsistency also sucks, but is more often people just constantly misplacing his flower (some bosses it's near impossible, but most it's not and just needs good placement), think his damage could have also been a good bit higher since while it's fine it's not really good either.
@@hedgeyes6411i mean, that's not a problem when albedo flower range is one of the bigger in the game, and also have a 4 seconds cooldown to replace it (i use him agains the "robot dancers boss", they broke it but with navia you can replace it the one or two times they'll break it)
@@twigz3214 This is such a nothingburger statement, they were literally asking for Albedo and the "not useful reaction" is what Navia needed to proc Crystallize for her own ammo. Depending on the team, you can actually use his burst to make those Crystallized shields tankier and for the other two party members to benefit from. People who complain about his flower hitbox have huge skill issue because there's only one boss that completely destroys all Geo constructs while you can outsmart the other one with timing.
Navia is great because of her kit/multipliers. Not because she’s Geo. Just like Zhongli, Navia is a case of she is good _in spite of_ instead of _because of_ her element.
My 79 level Navia with a 4 star weapon and with a mediocre build can deal 139k damage. Navia ❤❤
Personally I regret pulling her. I like her as a character but I don't like her play style. Especially since her skill often misses (I know it's skill issues), which hurts her performance really really badly. I really wanted to love her :(
Eh she’s way better in that department than ayaka. Missing her swirl sucks way worse
I never doubted my Geo queen 😊
She's a great character, no doubt about that, but I've ran into some issues while playing her: Her damage is a lot of the times rng, and depends on the enemy sizes and the amount of enemies there are on field (wasn't just me, jstern also found out about this), it is pretty easy to miss her E skill or just be too far away and do nothing, and playing her without a second geo option makes her ER requirements pretty high (even triple Favonius was not enough), and shard generation in solo geo was a problem, too.
Not to mention that she's an ATK scaler and requires pretty high investment to clear compared to teams like Hyperbloom or Neuvillette carry.
But doing that good without her bis support (Chiori)? That's really good.
Navia's rotation flexibility is incredible, I've really never seen anything like it on any on-field DPS. Makes her feel so smooth
To be fair, as much as I love Navia's kit, Xianyun and especially Arlecchino ARE more important to me, so like... based comment.
Since geo has been so bad I feel like they might over correct and slingshot Navia to the top since her best teams aren't finalized yet.
She is a claymore user...
I don't need more reasons to not pull her...
Sorry to all claymore mains but I can't stand claymores...
9:34 you mean noelle? ninguang?
TGS: "If in the future we get a Geo character that can alternate with her on-field and play in a quick-swappy way with her, then it will be great."
You mean like Noelle? You keep forgetting about Noelle.
Noelle utilizes auto-attacks, which enables Yelan/Xingqiu. She complements Navia's single-target nukes by providing AoE damage. Her team-healing enables Furina. She doesn't lose her burst after quickswapping, allowing you to use Navia's skill whenever you want - which also acts as a battery for Noelle, reducing her ER requirements.
I've found Navia/Noelle/Furina/Yelan to be a remarkably effective team. I know it's heavy on 5-stars, but I don't understand why hardly any theorycrafters are even mentioning it.
those 3 5 stars are faster to get than noelle C6 i don't get why you mention that
@@AKDE83 It's a F2P consideration. Some players might not have the primos to get all those 5-stars, especially not Furina/Navia since there was only one banner inbetween them. Noelle has been available from launch, is guaranteed on the Beginner banner, and is available in the Shop. She's a relatively easy 4-star to C6, and if you've been playing for a while it's likely you've gotten a few of her cons along the way just from general wishes.
@@feenyx9130 i did not invent that statement, also i said faster, available from launch is irrelevant for someone that didn't start at launch,
i'll repeat, 3 5 stars is faster to get than one C6 4 star.
i know it's not your main point but trust me for newer player it's boring when people tell you to just use Xingqiu, noelle or sucrose like EVERYONE have their C6
@@AKDE83 I understand your point, and it's valid. I'm not disputing it. But you said "I don't get why you mention that" so I felt compelled to elaborate. And I stand by my original point - Noelle is a viable option for a Navia team and I don't see many people talking about that.
By the way, I didn't originally mention C6 at all. While Noelle is certainly best at C6, she can still function as an on-field driver at C1 for a Furina team, though it's quite possible you have better options at that point, depending on your account.
And since you brought it up, Sucrose and Xingqiu are also excellent characters even at low constellations, so I'm sorry if people keep telling you otherwise, or if you feel pressured to pull for constellations. Just be creative with what you have; there are tons of good teams in this game, even if they're not "optimal".
i'll try noelle her burst looks really fun and i love geo,
but for xingqiu and sucrose, maybe you got their C6 long time ago and like many you overestimate their C0 but trust me, they are ass, and nobody told me that, abyss performance did, it's when i pulled navia and thus got the opportunity to use my C4 bennet/xiangling that i finally 36 stars the abyss after 3 months,
sorry if i'm obstinate but for me the only "1.0 broken 4 star OMG" that's actually good at low cons is bennet
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I wasn't going to pull for her, because I'm fairly new and want to get Raiden, but looks like I'm going to be shelling out some cash because imo Navia is a borderline must pull. Amazingly fun character.