How to Plant Onions From Seed and Why In November?? Plus Companion Planting to Save Space.
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- Who plants onions in Fall and who plants onions in Spring? Well, it depends on where you live. What kind of onions do you plant? Well, it depends on where you live.
I'll break it all down to a simple formula in this video. Plus because onions take a while to produce, and in the meantime take up valuable garden real estate... I'll show you some good crops to interplant with them to save space and make the most out of your garden beds.
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I have not purposely raised onions but had some "fun" with garlic and some Wild Ramps. We rented a house for many years and the old man (and original owner,) that lived there before did loved ramps and garlic. The garlic was in a large patch by his shed and it grew like crazy. His ramps were all over the yard. I think he was eating them while he was outside and just tossing the leftovers back in the yard or something because they were everywhere. I tried to mow the yard to cut back the garlic a bit and remove the ramps but no matter what I did, every time I mowed that yard it smelled like an Italian salad.
Live in OHIO and made the unfortunate mistake of trusting bulbs I bought from the store, ended up with nothing but stems. Definitely gonna try this method
Zone 8b...I winter sow my onion seeds every November. I collect 9 tp rolls, place them in a milk jug and fill with potting soil. Add 10 to 15 seeds per roll and dust the top with a little more soil. Moisten and toss out to the elements to sprout when the days get brighter. I transplant to my raised beds in April.
In spring I increase nitrogen until my onions start to bulb. Each leaf on your onion is one ring of the bulb so I incourage leaf growth. I also trim bent over leaves.
Great insight and tip. Thanks.
I can’t understand this so I’m in Richmond Virginia 23875 so when would i plant seeds
@olat1273 12 weeks before your last frost
I'm in Texas I got 1015 onions...
Named for the day you plant the seed.
If I could afford it I would never leave my garden 💯💯
I live in Virginia, I just planted onion seeds a week ago and thought i was crazy, but now I know I’m not. Thanks so much!
I had no idea about the importance of daylight hours in onion choice. Thank you!
I just checked and all the onion seeds and bulbs I bought are the long day and I needed short day. Sigh. Some are already planted. It does explain what went wrong with my first attempt.
onion bulbs are actually layers of leaves, and not roots so its important to add nitrogen.
I have one set of short day onions out. Putting out another batch today (Texas 1015 super sweet) and some shallots, leeks and maybe garlic, a set of long Island improved brussel sprouts, some cauliflower and rutabaga.
I am in Tacoma so I have to plant long day onions, ironically I bought seeds from a company here in the PNW last year and they all bolted, I suspect that they were short day onions, why they sell them in my area I will never know but it was frustrating, LOL. One other note, the best results will come from using fresh seed packed for the current year, onion seeds do not store well, I also dried some tiny bulbs to use as my own sets this year, but plan to buy seeds and starts if I can get them, last year was a tough year for getting supplies---I prefer red onions myself, so concentrate on those. I also like spring onions and had a good crop last year interplanted with Florence fennel, that worked out well.
do you overwinter the onions from seed in pnw?
Omg, this is awesome. Just last night my wife said to me, we need to plant onions. I said I planted onion seed a few months ago and they came up but then withered and died and so I was very discouraged. We like to grow them for so called Spring Onions’ to pick early for salads etc.,
So, yeah man, I’ll get on it now, get some seed ordered, cheers, happy gobble gobble!
When you buy green onions at the market you can cut off about 1/4” off the root end and re-plant. It will grow into another spring onion in a few weeks. It will not form a bulb but it works great for regenerating green onions.
You’re right! I see Walla Walla onion seed at most of the nurseries and big box stores. I also see onion sets that won’t grow globe onions. I put in Red Creole, Yellow Granex and Texas Legend this year all from seed in cell flats. I’ve found this method will kick start growth vs starting from onion plants for instance. We plant on 3” centers and pick every other one for Spring onions. Thanks for the informative video, one of your best! I like the interplanting idea a lot.
You nailed the details here. You also want to put a trench of nutrients in between onion rows.
As for intermediate zone, you can grow short day. Where you plant in garden you will need to know hours of sunlight. If your bed is only good for 10-12 hours of light, short day is better.
A lot of very useful information 👍
We only grow onions from bulbs, but I will give the seeds a try 🙂 even if I had to do it in container (fighting for space in garden) 😑
I’ve watched all your videos about onions. My garden is exposed to some hot temperatures in summer but during the winter my fence line shadows it all. Will my onions even work? Thanks for all your videos. You have helped me so much. My husband is building the tomato trellis when spring comes. So exciting g!
Thank you. Depending on where you are try planting in spring with med day onuons
Thanks for your reply!! I have intermediate onions and I may take them out and plant them in grow bags. I have garlic coming so I have to do that in grow bags.
I’m going back to your first videos and watch those next! It’s like an encyclopedia!
I learnt new idead about caring for the onions
I bought short day onion by coincidence and I have been waiting for your video to know what to. Tomorrow morning I will sow some seeds in grow bags.
In a hurry so this will be a quick comment. Very well done video. Want to see more of yours so I subscribed. Hopefully they will make a big difference in my gardening skills. I am in southeast Texas where we normally have mild winters...albeit we were a little surprised with that wild freeze last Feb '21. Alright...check out more later. Jesus bless
Thank you so much. I’m seeing this at the perfect time.
I've heard the terms short day and long day before but I had no idea what they meant. Planning to plant onions this spring. We use so many it would be crazy not to. Thanks for the info. Now I need to find the carrot video.
Fantastic video. Very informative as usual. Bulbs aren't roots though. They're modified underground stems. Might not change the fertilizer needs. 🤷♂️
I love you channel even though I’m a very different gardening zone in Ohio. It gives me a checklist of things to do before it’s time for me to do them. Thanks!
Perfect! Thank YOU!
My time for planting in the window is all the time! More accurately it's in mid to late january, but it's also any time there is space in the window~
Can’t wait for your garlic planting video. I have my garlic bulbs in the refrigerator for a month now per your previous video. Did you put a link for buying onions?
I usually plant from seed but I also set out plants (slips). Best source is Dixondale Farms for onion plants.
Thank you for the reminder! I covered my small garden in mulch, but I guess I now need to keep a spot for onion free!
Always learning something new from your channel. I envy the climat you live in.
I’m in northern Ontario and I will try to plant a handful of onion starts this fall and see what happens. Previous years I missed pulling some and they started to grow back in the spring. My chickens and ducks ate the new growth so I don’t know what would have happened but I’ll make sure they can’t get to that part.
Thanks will sure do
Love growing our own onions. We did ok this season, but not as good as previous years. I think they were shaded for a good portion of the growing season. Another very very informative video. Thanks for sharing.
I planted early grano onions in my SF area garden. One of the 20 plants has greens on it. Thanks for the help! I'll get some intermediate and start when you give the heads up. :)
The very end you answered a question that has been bouncing around in my head lately. Now I know I can buys organic garlic if I can’t find it to plant like this year. Thanks!
I'm going to try to hunt those varieties down today. Thanks for the warning and the tips.
Very good video on the differences between onions! I've watched a few and yours breaks it down very well.
Since this is a year old video, you've probably already discovered this so apologies if you already know but onions are not a root crop. The bulb is actually a modified leaf and it's Nitrogen that helps leaf development. I always thought they were root crops too until last year.
Thanks for your channel! It's a great resource.
Very interesting. Learned a lot. Thank you. Always enjoy your videos.
Radishes 💓☺️.
Always great information thank you.
So many good information here, definitely helps me with my first try on growing bulb onions 🧅
I always do them in the fall. I just have way more time! So we sow them then we move bed to bed refreshing the soil and weeding etc
I’m exited for next week video thank you 🙏 master
i have red and green onion growing already my mom wants some sweet yellow onions there still time zone 8 thank you.
Thank you for the great information! I planted a few yellow and a few red (from the organics that I bought at the store) back in September & had 1 of the yellow onions sprout up about 4 inches before we got surprised by early snow.
It's an experiment since we've never lived in this zone before. We moved from far northern CA (north of Sacramento) to Northwestern MT mountains - in the Cabinet Peaks.
I wish these videos had dates instead of 1 year ago. Helpful video
If you click more info or the down arrow below the video it will show the date
@@NextLevelGardening Thanks!
Hi. I've enjoyed watching your videos. I have a question on TO TRIM or NOT to TRIM onion greens? I live in Atlantic Canada. I've seen/read/been told so many different things on YES trim or NO don't trim the onion greens. I was wondering, do you have a video specifically for this topic? I so, could you provide the link? If not, would you consider doing one?
Thanks.
I’m doing exactly the same
Thank you, Brian! I learn a ton from each of your videos.
I'm in Louisiana. Stores sell their onions in the spring. Wrong time of the year. Ordered from Dixon Dale last year. But they were very small plants.
Sun is an issue for me as well. They will grow foliage without full sun, but without at least seven hours of sun they just won’t get as big a bulb. I didn’t think that through when I put the raised beds in.
Speaking of companion growing. I've seen online to grow them with tomatoes. Is that a good idea? Tomatoes grow bigger and the roots grow very deep. (Balcony gardener so I want to utilize all my space)
Carrot tip worked for my rainbow carrots but not for my orange (regular) carrots. Third time to sow onions 🤞🏻 fingers crossed.
Do you have a n updated video on beets? I’ve been struggling with them . I’m in zone 8a in Georgia . My soil is loose though
Thank you for breaking down the photothermoperiodic types. In my cooking class, they said the inner layers are the stems and the outer layers are the leaves (so the outer leavers are sweeter because that’s where the sugar is stored). So I’m not sure if they’re actually root vegetables?
Wonderful!!! Thank for all the info!! I haven't really been successful on any alliums.🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻Maybe this is my year. I'm here is the Bay Area 10b. Does this information also apply to leeks or shallots?
I'm in zone 6, and I bought onion starts from my local hardware store plus I replanted some onions I had that were growing. mine are not getting big. The starts I bought were red and white. I've already had one red onion die on me, but it looked like something dug it up
Hi Brian I do not like onions but i will try this anyway
Try em baked or steamed
@@indegruv or in cream sauce. Cream sauce makes Everything better, lol
Onions are so good in food though…
I'm in Zone 7b in Maryland. Should I be planting long or intermediate day onions? My location seems to be borderline. BTW, my garlic is all in and so is my kale 😊 Thanks for another great video!!
I'm in southern Kentucky and according to most growers specifications I am on the border for Northern and southern onions and so I could potentially grow all 3 types. 14 hr long days are the trigger for walla walla sweets to bulb. That occurs about the first week of June at my house. I'm pretty sure that you could grow long and intermediate day onions, but the intermediate would begin to bulb before the long day and will probably end up a bit smaller.
Wouldn't it be more prudent to plant things together that have the same requirements? And in the same family so your rotation isn't thrown off? Onions require sulfur and to my knowledge carrots don't. Wouldnt that throw the flavor off some what?
Hi Brian, awesome video, as always!!! I watched the video about freezing the onion seeds. I did that and left them in the bag on the counter for 4 or 5 days. When they came up, it was very fast and they turned green almost immediately. We got them in the ground the next day. You said you don't want them to turn green. Did we screw them up? They are still alive and growing but they don't have the frilly tops most carrots have. The name of the carrots are Ya Ya. Thank You for any information you can give. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
onions or carrots?
thanks for
a helpful lesson!
With all due respect, onions are not root crop. Onions are leaf crop. The bigger the leaves, the bigger the bulbs you going to get. Think of the bulb as a modified leaf stems, curled into the bulb shape.
Damn, i missed it! From zone 5
Am from Scranton Pennsylvania zone 6a
When planting mid-November, what happens during the few freezes we have in the south? Are the onion plants hardy below freezing temperatures?
Bro, I am still picking Super Sweet 100 and Juliette tomatoes as of yesterday, Nov 24. I am expecting these tomato plants will die soon, they are dying from the bottom up but I am still seeing plenty of tomatoes on the vines.
I should have added I am in Sacramento, zone 9
Nice video. As always, very informative, but now I have a couple of QUESTIONS:
1) you were talking about the importance of using phosphorus when planting and then half way through you said to stop using the nitrogen. Please clarify when do you use the nitrogen and phosphorus. Or is it just nitrogen or just phosphorus?
2). I live in the long day growing area of the map. So does that mean I can grow any kind of onion since I would have enough daylight? I have areas in my garden, like yours, that get shaded during parts of the day. So can I plant the short day or intermediate onions in those areas? If so, what is the minimum number of hours of sunlight does short day onions need and the same with the intermediate onions?
Thank you, in advance, for your reply. I look forward to reading it and growing onions this year. I tried to grow some 3 years ago from seed but nothing grew. Not a single one. I’d like to give it a try again this year.
Did you have any luck? Planting all three types in different areas of the yard is a really good idea!
Cool didnt know this
Oh! Happy Thanksgiving!! :)
Lovely video I will try same
I live in the south but my garden area is in full, deep shade (due to neighbor's massive evergreens) all winter. If I plant in the fall, will they grow without any direct sunlight?
What about growing short day onions in a long day climate
Actually I leave in Ecuador
If I put plants in with my onions and when they start to bulb I have to stop fertilizing. What about the other plants around it with fertilizer?
Can you also address letting them go for a 2nd year to collect seeds? I'm doing onions for the first time in 2021 so still trying to figure everything out.
All you do is leave them in until after they produce flowers, followed by having seeds on all the parts of the flower. Super easy to get the seeds out after they dry, too. Just cut off the remains of the flower and shake the seeds out.
@@amberweinmann9441 so you leave them all winter? I have seen people saying they dig and store them for the 2nd year
@@summerfoley2481 I guess it depends on where you live. Where I live I have no frost, so I grow them for green onions all year. Usually about March or April (about the time I plant tomatoes or peppers) they put on flowers
@@amberweinmann9441 I do get hard freezes. (Zone 7B). So not sure if they should be left in the ground or not. May try both ways. If these onions do well, i got long day and really should have intermediate but hopefully they do ok
@@summerfoley2481 how did this work out for you? I'm in 6b and building a greenhouse, so I'm going to experiment with both ways. Curious on your results ❤
Hello, I have a partial shade garden (8 hours of direct sun) can I use a short day onion due to limited sun in New England (normally a long day onion zone) reason is that my long day varieties don’t grow to potential size…I believe due to the limited sun light… anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks
Frank
Ray in Ga. I'm planting onions around the outside of my raised bed and preparing for tomatoes later in the center.. Can they be grown together??
The tomatoes will choke out the roots of the onion.
They are great companion plants but you will need to space them way out. I usually plant my tomatoes 3 feet apart and in between I only plant 2-3 onions or basil plants
Depends on how you grow the tomatoes. If you do a vertical trellis, you can grow onions really close by. I do the square foot method and get a lot of production in tomatoes and the crops grown next to it.
I've got onions that I'm not sure if they're right for my zone if they happen to be short day onions and I'm in a long day onion Zone will they still grow?
Thanks buddy, but I have problems getting my onions to sprout and also some carrots that I got any idea on how to do this please, especially the onions, do I have to soak them in lookwarm water or in hydrogen peroxide overnight am in Nigeria and my area has some good amount of sun hours am doing the red onion? Thanks.
If you’re growing onions from seed it’s best to start them in flats that have individual cells. Plant seeds about 1/8” (3mm) deep and keep well-watered. You should see green growth in about 10 days. Grow in flats for about 6 weeks and fertilize every 2 weeks with 20-20-20 water soluble at 1/2 the recommended concentration. You can trim the green growth if it gets too tall. Transplant into your garden. I’m guessing You should be planting short day varieties but don’t take my word on that. Good short day options are yellow granex and red creole.
You say it's made of shell, does it also provide some calcium as well?
How do you start them indoors? I've never had success
I have some growing in my indoor cold crop garden that I started by seeds! They’re doing great! But because they are a long day onions, I’m going to switch my indoor lighting over them from bright white lights (6400k) to warm full spectrum (3000k) and see if they start setting their bulbs. They been growing in this indoor garden since August. 🤞
Brian, When using onion sets, Can I still plant Short Day Onions in Jan/Feb. I'm just south of you in OC.
Hey I'm in 6a Indiana and i planted my onions in spring but they didn't do well, but now they are starting to bloom. Should I pull them out or leave them be? They are not quite ready, can they be replanted in spring?
If they are blooming you won't be able to harvest for food. But they make great companion plants because they repel bad insects and attract pollinators and predators to those tiny blossoms. They can easily be transplanted to plant throughout the garden if desired
@@amberweinmann9441 it about to be cold likely freezing soon can they make it till spring?
Thanks so much for the info. Glad I have a community now to talk to.
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So I am extremely left-brained and am number-centric. Why can you plant short day onions in November where you are? Is there a number of days before/after/during frost times that it is good to plant them? I write everything I need to do each month on a calendar and I want to make sure I'm estimating appropriately.
I am farther north in CA, Sacramento. Do I wait til Feb. to plant?
I had given up on growing onions! I may give them a shot now. I am literally on the line that separates long and intermediate day onions. Should I stick with intermediate day onions to be safe?
Probably a good choice. Good luck!
Is it ok if I planted them about 1 inch shallower?
This is still unclear for me. 9b. When do I plant?
November
What do you do if you’re allergic to shellfish?
From my research I found that it doesn't affect people with allergies after it is broken down and in the plant. Look around and see if you find the same.
@@NextLevelGardening thank you...
Adding to this if you do use this definitely wear some gloves to be on the safe side.
Shellfish can cause a fatal allergic reaction in some people. We don't go near it.
Bone meal has phosphorus.
Where do you get the ferlizer happy Thanksgiving
There's a link in the video description below the video
Stating zones would be much more helpful.
Not with vegetables. It's all about frost dates
Dude you need to specify months im watching these videos a year after you made them lol
grow by seed then
I thought you may want to understand that you have only half of this correct.
The other half is about heat units.
This video by Dixondale farms explains it.
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I thought onions are biennial. But you are planting seeds in fall to harvest the next year. I am confused.
No. Sets are treated as bie nial but don't work for me
Why do you just show a map of the US, the US has Territories I guess we have to learn on our own