RE: Conor McGregor - In MMA, bad wrestling is enough...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2018
- Conor McGregor recently released a training video showing him wrestling. According to Chael Sonnen, Conor's wrestling is not very good, but that doesn't matter in mixed martial arts.
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Chael Sonnen once threw a grenade and killed 40 people. Then it exploded.
Zontacx This is a Bruce lee joke. #Copied
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LMFAO
That's because Chuck Norris has nightmares about Chael
Zontacx chael is a bad ass
we still don't know though... just how good is Conor McGregor ?
Hahahaahhahhaha.
I laughed
And also, can he catch em
We gonna find out
You know, I'm just not sure we know the answer to that question...
“Garbage wrestling is enough to work in MMA”
Better call up Francis and let him know
Kylo B 😂🤣😅
Kylo B Francis beat overseem though lol
That fight could go completely differently if replayed, Francis just needed one clean shot in the 1st
Kylo B he said garbage wrestling! Not zero lol
Can Francis even spell wrestling?
Remember dirty boxing.
Fighters that can't box well use "bad boxing", and it works very well in MMA. Some wrestlers are great at dirty boxing. More specifically Randy Couture
Dirty boxing is just throwing punches whilst holding the other guy in a color tie or something, right ? Kinda how DC ko'd stipe.
It's called "dirty" boxing, because under the Marquess of Queensberry rules, or the official rules of boxing, punching whilst holding is an illegal tactic .
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Ye but the actual holds can be different sometimes during a fight, there is science behind that aswell.
Bad boxing? Conor just got out of the ring with TBE ... in BOXING! How TF is anyone going to dirty box Conor McG.
Uncle Chael has spoken!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Its simple, Mcgregor's wrestling is not on Khabib's level and Khabib's striking is not on Mcgregor's level.
There are few who are in either case
Thanks genius
it's simple, you cant think for yourself.
I agree , for as good as Conor is striking the skill gap is the same for khabibs wrestling
No. Shit.
Why are you talking about every single fight except your own? Would be nice to hear you analyze Chael vs Fedor
Or just do your thing and roast Fedor doesn't mater either way
Fahad Joudeh What’s there to talk about? One man is superior on every level. And the other is Fedor.
Fedor is a potato
Sleepless Specter Good point.
isambo400 Would be entertaining as fuck to hear Chael say that, I'm just wondering why he doesn't roast his opponents anymore, like the legendary A.Silva promos....we need more of that in MMA. We need more Chael.
I hope Khabib knocks Conor out with a wicked left. Or Conor submits Khabib with something ridiculous, like a banana split or Boston crab
lmfao oh shit.... IMAGINE
Boston crab lmao
What if Conor submits khabib with a rnc lmao
What if Khabib K.Os McGregor with the same punch McGregor hit Aldo with 😂😂😂
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Can we lock Conor and Khabib up for the next 1.5 weeks until weigh ins? If this fight gets called off now, I will be so heartbroken.
If it gets called off it will be due to khabib having a sore vagina or missing weight, Conor ALWAYS shows up you can bet your ass on that!!
idk though it wouldnt be all that bad cause Tony vs Conor or Tony Khabib would be more competitive than conor vs khabib
Conor doesnt pull out
people forget conor has been a brown belt in bjj for years...
Chael i love your channel! You really should commentate at the UFC because your input is awesome!
Thanks chael for the tutoring session
This is an excellent video. The same could be said about grappling, though. You don't need top grappling/BJJ on the bottom if you are strong enough and are good at scrambles / getting back up / sub defense.
There are countless examples of fighters who get away with minimal grappling because they know how to negate grappling.
Maybe striking is different?
In any case, where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?
The use of wrestling in mma really is the shoot and the body control. Aside from that you don't see any great plethora of wrestling techniques in mma.
This is what Chael was trying to explain. You put it perfectly man. I think most people (me included) thought that wrestling was pretty much combined with grappling as well. I didn't separate the two, but in reality to me its all the same thing. if your'e a grappler you have to try and learn it all(takedowns, sprawl, TDD, submission, submission defense).
, no I was talking about freestyle and Greco-Roman,the most commonly used wrestling in mma.
You don't see it because almost everybody in the UFC is a former wrestler and can therefore defend a takedown. Plus, the rules, refereeing and judging are biased against grapplers.
Well thanks for the information bro. Catch wrestling does seem awesome. Here in the UK it's mainly only freestyle wrestling I can find
Really? I have never seen a fight stop from non action standing up and be put on the ground. I have never seen a fight start on the ground. To say the rules and refereeing are biased to grapplers is just false. If you said the judging is biased towards grapplers you would be correct.
whispering chael is one of the best types of chael
Love your videos Chael
I'm confused. What's the difference between wrestling and grappling?
Can someone link this video, I can't find it on youtube or on insta.
Its 2018 can we not have background distractions. I just learned how to take someone down but no idea what Chael said.
Brb replaying.
Does anyone have the video that Conor released where he's wrestling?
Chael we know you picked Conor, now I have to put my money on khabib, Thanks for the heads up 🙏
but chael picked stipe when he fought francis ngannou ..so ?
@@udaydelhi2569 lightning don't strike twice
me too
@@udaydelhi2569 that's way more obvious than this.
@@mirvang shut the fuck up ..everybody thought that francis gonna kill stipe , francis was a scary dude too much hiped by everybody like khabib right now ..same things gonna happen to khabib ..
Always learn from ya Mr.Sonnen. Very interesting!
Can I ask in a different way, is Khabib's on foot work enough for MMA ? Cuz if not then odds in favour of Conor since Conor's wrestling is enough !!
Is this what u trying to say ?
You're right about Cejudo "outwrestling" DJ in the 2nd fight. I didn't know taking someone down for 2.2 seconds (laying there not doing anything w/ it) while the other fighter simultaneously gets back up is "outwrestling"
It's one thing in MMA to be able to take someone down. It's ANOTHER to take them down, and do something w/ it.
Similar to Bisping , if all he focus' on then he is essentially doubling up on mat time , all he has to worry about is single leg and Nage-Waza
I mean But is it enouh tho will his takedown defence be betten than barboza thatsall i want to know
I've noticed that as well. I'm not a fighter but just from watching a lot of MMA, I've seen that a lot of the time, if you're not a wrestler, knowing a few key things seems to be enough to get a fighter out of trouble. Speaking of Conor, Chad Mendez couldn't keep him on the ground. I'm not saying Khabib is Chad, but it showed that even if his forte isn't on the ground, he knows enough to get out of trouble AND he's got some good tricks to keeping the fight from getting to the ground in the first place.
Chad took him down 4 times though and Khabib is better. As for Chad didn't keep him down, in the second he couldn't as he ran out of gas (he fought on 12 days notice) in the first he kept him down and bloodied him up, chad also landed some good shots standing. Chad looked 2 inches shorter than conor too, Khabib is a lot bigger.
Chad could definitely keep him down, he got impatient and went for a sloppy guillotine, he could have held him down the entire 5 minutes if he wanted
Conor had an acl injury though. When he fight Alcarez, didn't get taken down
alvarez isnt as good a wrestler and his corner was literally begging him to stop striking and just go for takedowns, which he never did. The comparison is ridiculous
@@samueleverson546 Thought Alvarez is known to be a good wrestler though? Also, don't change fact that Conor had acl injury
Correct me if i am wrong.. but arent most of the champions at this moment.. wrestlers??
Idk if bad wrestling is good enough
Once again right on point
I never thought about it like this...spot on...
I wish someone could just tell me how good is Conor? I'm been looking through this channel and I still can't find out...
When I see Chael has a new video in my TH-cam subscriptions I’m like
YEEE HAWWW!!! 🤠
Great insight 👍👍👍👍
Chael ""When I was young they used to call me 'The Foreman,' not because I was in charge but because I did the work of four men." Sonnen
single leg and drive is all most need to gain a dominant position; its like most people thinks its some magic shit though. the bodylock (bearhug?) is good when they start slipping away from that single though. The bodylock/bearhug gets problematic when they have something to stabilize themselves from however; ie railing, wall, cage, etc...can burn a shit-tonne of energy pulling the asshole off that stable point.
chael i fking love your vids dude... pls interview people
Fully agree with that... It is mixed martial arts, and you need a good balance of all the arts... A master of 1 art, isn’t running favourite...
Chael, I think you bring up some Good Points. Here is something a wrestler brings that no other sport offers as well and that is Balance and the Ability to feel and react to Balance Shifts. The better the Wrestler the better they are at reacting to this. I have seen this Balance work in Football, Soccer, Track and even Baseball. It is something people don't understand until you feel it from someone that is Better in a Scramble. You obviously know this.
It all comes down to one final detail , just how good is Conor McGregor ?
awesome break down
I think the key element Chael left out is this: high level wrestling(NCAA Div 1 All-American/World Freestyle) is predicated on a uniquely intense workout regimen.
There's a truism among wrestlers that the only way to get in shape for wrestling is to wrestle.
This kind of background makes MMA workouts a snap. The weight cutting, the constant push/pull grind against opponents in the sweatiest circumstances is just bread 'n butter for grapplers.
Every old skool wrestler knows the infamous Iowa Hawkeye summer camp black t-shirts and its hellish daily schedule printed on the back!
Ty
I love it when Chael is always wrong. Cool thing is that it doesn't phase him at all. He'll go out the week after the fight, and try to explain his predictions as valid even though he's wrong. I watch him just to enjoy his verbal scramble.
Hmmmm, I honestly hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks Mr. Sonnen.
I'm so happy that you are part of the Sport! It wouldn't be the same without you! Good on you, man!
why did dannis (who's conors bjj coach) say conor will submit khabib
I actually agree with this guy. Basic grappling to defend takedowns mixed with hard striking.
WWE Super Show Down , the biggest event in WWE history on October 6
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Ishan Miglani not really though because of the time difference. I’m in Melbourne and wwe is Saturday night and ufc Sunday day
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Different time zones, they won't be on at the same time.
@Steve Legend you're right , WWE sucks
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Poor Poor WWE.
Nor do you have to have elite striking elite ju jitsu etc what’s your point? It’s MMA who can dominate using their skills not what your good or bad at even guys with very similar skills if you put them 10 times against each other you’ll find that not always the same guy will win. That’s why we have rematches
"DC doesnt use a ton of wrestling" - Sure, whatever you say.
This is the guy who said Sambo is fake style 😂🔫
This guy is a mediocre in MMA.
I could listen to chael talk mma all day .
*Well, im not trying to push a narrative here, but hold on to this thought for 1 moment..*
Just how good is conor mcgregor? And where does kevin lee fit into this?
Im just trying to figure out how Kevin Lee comes into all this.
GSPs opponents though the same about that one leg... but he kept taking them down...
It's easier to defend good wrestling than it is to defend good striking.
RIP kabeeb
LOL chael makes a great Point
But i wish he had of mentioned himself Vs Michael bisping
Extremely contradicting you're saying here that you don't need great wrestling but you're saying an interview just now at 229 that someone with wrestling versus someone that doesn't have good wrestling it always ends the same that's not a paraphrase. But that's basically what you said
IMHO, The shot that Connor could potentially land on Khabib and knock him out is a close quarters hook while Khabib shoots for a single catching him behind the ear a la Dustin Porier, or when Khabib goes for an under hook, Connor could roll somehow followed by an inside left cross, Khabib seems to particularly go for an underhook of his opponent right arm. Connor is in an elite level of fighters that can generate such power from close quarters. If Khabib can avoid these particular shots, he just might get a shot at implementing his variation of take down, hold down, ground and pound.
Can't fookin wait
So what you're saying is average wrestling isn't enough for MMA and Connor needs to really improve it?
Ask Ngannou and Till how important wrestling is
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Technically that wasn't wrestling. In Ngannou's case it was taking him down and draining his energy while keeping busy with strikes. In Till's case it was a knockdown from a punch and that was poor submission defense than anything though I suppose that one could be argued.
Cheal should defo do some conor v khabib demos in the build up.
The best part about this fight and this sport is we all think we know what’s going to happen but once that cage closes anything can happen. The fans are the real winners for this fight. The best two lightweights in world. In their prime are going to fight and we get to witness this history
But Chael, where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?
Chael is right. It goes both ways, too. Some of the very best wrestlers in the amateur game can’t translate it into MMA either.
Was bad wrestling enough?
Videos like these make me feel like I owe Chael some money. Imagine having the skill to consistently provide better entertainment than most on this platform, just by opening your mouth.
Exactly! This is why I can't understand why anyone thinks this fight will be competitive.
Bad wrestling is only enough if you have good striking. If you have acceptable striking and great BJJ, you can do as good as your level of striking because no one will take it to the ground. If you have great offensive wrestling and very good GNP or BJJ, it's enough to win a championship even if the striking is mediocre or average.
Great offensive wrestling (I think Chael qualifies here) is enough to give a big force multiplier to the striking. If you recall in the Anderson fight, Chael rocked him several times on the feet because of the fear of the wrestling.
For great (MMA) wrestling to be world beating, I think you need to have either good to great GNP, submission game or striking. e.g. Jon Jones, Khabib, GSP, Chael, Lesnar, Cain, DC, Couture. For great wrestling to be great MMA wrestling, the skillset has to transfer.
Conor did really good I thought in the Khabib fight. Somewhat better defenses to what Khabib was doing was in order though. Whether it was better defensive wrestling on the feet, some calf or leg kicks to slow down his push to the cage (like Gaethje has), defense against the leg entanglements, or getting to his feet better, it needs to be one of those things.
Alternatively it's a numbers game and maybe 1/3 or even 2/3 Conor wins it, but didn't get the knockout punch in the match they fought.
Eddie Bravo also thinks the earth is flat so his opinion is suspect
Chael is mma's Paulie Malignaggi. What better perspective!? & intricately put!
Good point CHael. I think fans too often mistake wrestling for grappling. Khabib knows the difference, that's why he told Conor at the press conference "you don't have wrestling AND you don't have grappling". Wrestling is only 1/10th of the problem, it's the stuff that Khabib does to you on the ground (grappling) that really kills you.
Hahaha TJ was a NCAA All American wrestler though. Conors wrestling is nowhere near TJs.... Chael knows thats a ridiculous name to throw out to make that point.
I like the fact they have usman on standby
Yea. I'd sure like you to revisit this. Seems like the more the UFC progresses the more fighters need to have EVERYTHING.
Hes right. I've heard a few people criticizing Chael but in the end I dont always agree but it doesn't mean hes wrong. I like Chael bc he understands that someone can disagree with him and they both be right.
Well said mate.
I still have a question, mr sonnen. JUST HOW GOOD IS CONNOR MCGREGOR??????
I just like this guy Chael..Seems smart,cool and down to earth.
hey chael,just how good is Conor McGregor? lol
I’m early ,, go king chael!!!
TJ is a Three-time NCAA qualifier, ranked 10th in nation (2006), I think he's a little more than good.
Chael Sonnen!!! Is a bad guy and loves the bad guy look why he defends his kind!! Always good to hear him speak and his opinions that sound like truths... the truth is this a samba fighter which is wrestling grappling and punching to open up positions vs the best striker and pound for pound heavy Hands in mma!!! It will be a friggin one for the ages!!!
I LOVE HOW CHAEL'S HEAD IS GROWING. IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND LENGTH. TOTALLY TO ACCOMMODATE HIS GROWING BRAIN. LLC. -Long Live Chael.
So true
same thing could be said about striking though.... just look at Chael!
Dropping that Knowledge
Benson got 2nd at state 2001. Pinned in finals @ 135 to Tommy Owen.
Grappling/Wrestling is the worst thing you can do in a fight. The only things that work are counter attacks and leg swipes in such a sport
Chael is right. You need to have some basics, but great wrestling is not necessary. The basics, sprawling, leverage, that grinder work ethic help with wrestling.
I don't know lol time and time again for over 20 years we've seen wrestlers dominate opponents with average or bad wrestling
Most of them didn't have Conor's elite level of striking and movement.
we see what you're doing chael and we like it
I want Chael to say more things as a wrestler
Chael has been killing it in his breakdown making Ariel look like a noob
Get a partner and put up a video with some wrestling approaches.
But where does Kevin Lee fit into all this?
Khabib isn't just a wrestler, he's a complete grappler, he can do it all when it comes to that
I could listen to Chael talk about the difference of salt and pepper.
Chael Love the videos keep up the great work and we all know Connor is going to beat his ass so bad it won’t even be funny
Chael I've got a few questions that if you answer should be some great talking points for you can I get a email address