I had a similar experience when I was buying my Mustang Cobra. I went into a dealership; test drove the vehicle. I was filling out the paperwork after the agreed price and the salesman came in a said, "I talked with my manager, and we are charging $5k over sticker as a market adjustment." I said, "I am leaving." He said, "Wait, I will see if we can get it $3k over." I said, "I wouldn't buy it from you, if you would sell it to me $5k under sticker. " I bought another one for sticker price at another dealership.
2012 I was going to buy a 2010 BMW 528i, 25K miles on the odometer, clean inside and out, still under warranty. The dealer was asking $29,500. I had doubts. I took the contract to my credit union, the underwriter offered to negotiate a better price for me, which she did. I got the car for $26K (tax & license included) 🎉. When I brought the check (from my CU) to the dealership I got the dirtiest looks from the finance mgr and GM. The sales lady was still extremely nice 👍 I wish all banks and credit unions did that for their customers. It takes the stress out of purchasing a vehicle.
I bought a 2017 Corvette with 18k miles on it from a Toyota dealer in Orange County two months ago. I had a fine experience with the salesman, it was finance managers that really pissed me off. They tried to sell me like eight different overpriced bullshit warranties and I said no to all of them. They had three different finance people try to come in and guilt me into buy the warranties I stood my ground and said no to all of them. $800 for a key warranty lmao.
Fellow 2017 C7 owner, a lot of us in the c7 group have had to replace our torque tubes. It’s a common problem these have, it’s about a $6k repair. Set some money aside in the future to plan on replacing it or get a warranty that covers it. Grats on the car!
I have always done my own deals for cars. I really enjoy walking out when the manager has “given me the best deal they can”. I have literally gotten phone calls from the dealership that I walked out of while driving home in the new truck I just bought somewhere else.
I live in Ohio, was trying to take advantage of ford's special financing on new 2023 F150. My local area was thin and overpriced. Found a dealership in Virginia who was motivated to sell a truck. Got the rate I wanted with an OTD I was comfortable with. Had it delivered to me in 48 hours. Be willing to talk to a lot of bad salesmen and move on until you find a good one.
I live in central ohio and have bought 7 of the 20+ new cars ive gotten in my lifetime out of state.. granted none of them since 2020.. but ive always been able to neogitate numbers over Email.. (I dont like phone calls because unless they are recorded its easy for a salesperson to say "oh thats not what I meant to say"... in all cases ive told them im from out of town and I want the deal done except for me to come in and sign the papers and drive my new car home.. (Ive never had one shipped.. I have used the opportunity to have some fun and an exciting roadtrip in a brand new car).. so ive either driven my trade (did that twice).. or flown / rented a car.. one dealer in indy in 2019 actually rented me a car to drive to their dealership and pick up my car.. but I think being out of town has an advantage.. that sales-person knows you will never even have a chance at buying if he says "you must come in".. and if you are calling a dealer out of town you are serious enough about a car he has to be willing to travel and get it (or have it shipped).. these are new cars so i dont have the issue of the car not being as advertised.. its brand new. and I upfront tell them "No little shop of horror addons".. seems to always be a tiny office with a little short dude behind a large desk.. if im getting an addon i tell them during neogtiation.. I actually *DID* walk from one out of state sale... they started in with the "my manager didnt approve our previous offer".. so I got right up, ordered an Uber and left... ended up calling his competitor who gave me a better deal, (got me the same car by dealer trade).. ... car buying is an adventure
Same, I'm in Cali and bought my Raptor using nationwide Autotrader search. Did the entire deal over the phone (text); Fedex me the paperwork and I went to pick up the Keys (from Little Rock, AR).
This is why the Tesla way of selling new cars is very attractive. All the numbers right in front of you and can be done from your living room without talking to a soul. Push the purchase button, digitally sign 2 edocs, download the app and pick up your new car. No finance guy, no undercoatings upsells, no running back and forth to a manager. Just the easiest way of buying a car there is.
It's as simple as that,, do everything online, no BS, get the delivery email, go to the showroom find the car with your name on it, swap the plates from the trade, sign once, and drive away.
saw this dealer here in Maryland that had some great sports cars with some really great prices. went over there to find out that they sell a powertrain warranty on top of the price of the car but said warranty cannot be declined or discounted! So, a car that was priced at 22K was now 27K because you had to pay 5k extra, because they said so and they would not budge on the price. Yup, that is when I walked out and never came back in
I can't wait until you can buy any car online directly through the manufacturer. You can already "build" the car you want on a manufacturer's website and get the msrp. They just need to add the financing part.
Saw awful dealer behavior in 2021. Saw awful dealer behavior the last couple of months here in mid 2024. Takeaway = dealers are awful. Yesterday, within 60 seconds of walking through the door, the salesperson asks me some questions, one of which I answered "thats irrelevant. " He then turned the paper around and pushed it toward me and said , "sign at the bottom please. " It said "if numbers are correct I agree to buy today." I had not yet been shown the car I came to see, They had Not yet looked at my trade nor given me an offer on my trade. I had been in the dealership no more than 60 seconds. I walked out.
One of the best tubes I've seen on this channel. Lots of info, tips and insights into the process. Also, I'm not timid with car salesman but I dislike the process. I'd rather it was more "Here's the car, here's the price". I never considered a car buying broker before, but this tube changed my mind. Your guest knows exactly what he's doing and is confident. Why not let this pro handle the negotiating job?
Why were dealerships allowed to legally gouge people for 3 years,? I would think marking a vehicle 25 to 50% more because of the shortage should be illegal. No one is talking about this. And they cant say victomless crime because a lot of people have lost all their credit due to this. Yes, they werent forced into signing, but when ALL the dealerships are doing it, did anyone have a choice?
I think you may have ignored the definition of MSRP. You know it is suggested, not mandatory. Yes, people had choices. They were not compelled to buy at that price. Scarcity is also a real thing. I am NOT trying to defend dealers at all. My goal here is to explain a perspective that you may have overlooked. If I am a dealer and I can make $2000 on a car, that sounds good. I look at my operating expenses of having that lot, the people, the software, the . . . I know that I need to sell 120 cars that month, making $2000 on the car to cover my expenses. Well, when I am only seeing 20 cars because of allocation issues, I have a choice. I can mark those cars up to make $12k per car to cover my expenses or lose money. Last I checked, a car dealership is not a charity. As was mentioned in this video, profit is not a bad word. All we can do is argue on how much profit is there.
It's a free market.. (not really) but you weren't forced to buy a new vehicle. I get the sentiment but their business is to make as much money as possible from a car sale.. nothing more and nothing less. You always had the power to say "No, maybe I can't afford it now" I'd rather wait and buy it used or I'd try a different dealer, brand, etc... Then getting into an absurd debt.
To put this on the dealers absolves the consumer from making idiotic financial decisions. I can sell some used socks for $7K doesn’t mean someone has to buy it. If the price is too high or the interest is too high they could simply say “no” but because a lot of people want to show off a new expensive car with the instant gratification (that last few months), they make these decisions. My wife and I both would like new cars but the market isn’t right. I don’t have a dealer or a bank at my doorstep with a gun telling me to buy a car
In my 42 years I’ve never bought from a dealer!! I would buy from Brandon though, or an honest straightforward dealer in a heartbeat. I hate liars, cheats, and cons when it comes to my money.
When I purchased our current car I had an out the door price that I would not budge. Period. When we got to that price they brought up the doc fee. I said no. To the point that I was ready to walk out the door without the car. In the end I did pay the doc fee, but I also paid $417 less than the price I had negotiated for the car before the doc fee came up. I got the car out the door for my price.
Buying a car at a dealership is robbery, and I think it's bad business overall. They have terrible tempers and they lie all the time. It's horrible exp to buy a new car. I had to buy one because my wife forced me to, or else I wouldn't have done it. It's ridiculous the things they charge for and all the hidden stuff that makes you so angry.
It's your responsibility to research no excuse for you getting charged for things you don't want...... plenty of videos too on how to avoid the fees....don't blame the dealer
@@truckercowboyed2638 It’s the dealer and their tactics. They do things to scam you. I bet that elderly people get screwed by dealerships all year round. I was told by the sales manager that I upset his sales agent because I ask a lot of questions, and I said, 'Well, I'm the one who is buying the car, not him.' He can go F himself!
@truckercowboyed2638 i dont think he was coming from a a place of ignorance but just feeling. Ive been shopping for 2 months now and its a complete joke how sales will treat ya and how offended they get when you will not bow to them. My wife got all hot and bothered for me last night after a deal after she saw how i dealt with a bad situation and flipped it on the dealer, for instance repair order shows they charged the ac fuel leak. I told the guy the whole system needs to be replaced...."what are you a mechanic? Nope someone who has knowledge buddy
This is the reason I ordered brand new Tesla model 3 Long Range RWD online for $34,990 after $7,500 tax rebate. I have tried to buy used Tesla but dealerships make it so annoying that I quit after few attempts. I wish we could have other brands set up like Tesla.
Dang great information. You would think a dealer would sell a heck of a lot more cars and make a great profit in the long run just being honest like you. Going into a dealership is a 💩 show
Pure Greed is why this exists. Plain and simple. LOL I remember one time a friend and I were with my mom trying to get her a car and we sat down with the dealer and negotiated a price, but it was way to high and my mom could not afford it, we gave them our best of what we could afford (mind you this was way back in the early 90's) and they said there is no way we could do that, so my mom who was upset at this point because we been there a few hours and they were jerking us around said no, never mind I'm going to go across the street and buy a car (she had excellent credit mind you) and as soon as we walk out the salesman came running after us, saying ok, ok we can do your price, but my mom was so angry at this point she said no I'll never buy a car from you, so we went across the street and with in like an hour and a half she was driving home in her new car and the funny part was we drove by the other lot and waved to them because the sales guy was out front.😂. I'll never forget that, she also had the car paid off in like 3 years and drove it for like 20 years.
Brandon talks about walking out on negotiations and then allowed himself to be strung along OVER THE PHONE. If a dealer won't give you a simple answer like the out the door price. Hang up the phone. They'll call you back, if they want to sell that car!
The industry ruined itself with deception and greed. When an invoice - a legal document - is reduced to a synthetic representation of what a dealer actually pays for a car, something is wrong. Too many back channel revenue streams and bogus fees also poison the business. Given that most dealers have a service department absorption rate close to or in excess of 100% they can literally give cars away at "true cost" and make money. When a dealer says they will sell you a car at or below invoice they are admitting that there's a ton of hidden money in the transaction. All of the car buying drama is a self inflicted wound on the part of the industry. Before the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958 requiring window stickers it was both worse and better buying a car. Before then you had no idea what the true cost was and only skilled buyers got the best deals. At least they robbed you with a handshake and a smile back then, Today they still rob you and don't even shake your hand.
I used to think that too, a new car is a new car. However, I bought a new Hyundai Accent in 2021. I really liked the car, and we wanted another car so we picked another 2021 Hyundai Accent 6 months later. Same trim so I didn't really take it for a long test drive. As time went on I discovered the second Accent didn't drive like the first one. It was slower, worse brakes, and didn't handle as well. There should have been no difference, but if you drove them both you would have thought they were 2 different cars. You can use competition in store buying, I have done it many times. I have also purchased 70 cars in my lifetime.
When you are looking to buy a new car or used car from a dealer....you have to be willing to get up and walk away! Its ridiculous... but you have to learn how to play the game or your going to get screwed!!
Through CarMax I Chan get a price online. I have never been able to get a price online with any other dealer. You can say a relative, or co-worker has whatever vehicle that you want and you test drove theirs.
Because the LAW always allows this shit to go on . They need to shut all dealerships/ pos people down. I got caught up too by the lies . Now I struggle to make my payments but I’m gonna do it I’ll never go to another dealership EVER. Buy private. Let the dealerships go under.
Sorry everyone I meant the Silverado looks BAD ASS looking at front of the PU It looks 👍 with the AIR intake and design by GM to front of Chevys 😊😊❤😊 I love the look of the GMC and Chevrolet PUs and you can not be at the steps built into the PU beds. I use them all the time getting in and out. GM built these steps before any other PU manufacturing 😊❤
I'm worried about you brother.... Looking to buy a Tesla? As a channel that reviews vehicles, including a lot of EVs, I cannot support this decision lol
I would not buy a Toyota at the present time. They charge a premium for their cars because they believe their cars are better than everyone else's. That might have been true a few years ago but not any more.
They still are better in that they actually back the warranty. Every time they make new regulations it takes a few years to get the engines to not break. Never buy a 1-3 year old model after change.
4:59 And that is why I loved buying my Tesla from Tesla. The price was on the website and set. I paid it. It was delivered to me. I signed two sheets of paper and it was mine. No getting jerked around, no waiting for hours for the finance department, no BS. I know Brandon wanted a used one for content/research, but if you're considering a Tesla, you better be getting a crazy good deal to not buy from Tesla, avoiding the dealership nonsense is worth a lot.
In my opinion it is best not to buy any newer car right now. To me it is financial suicide to finance any depreciating liability like a car for longer than 3 years and pay all that interest on the loan.
The Dealership I went to let me take the 2021 Silverado 3500 for a TEST drive. The salesman said take her home, Drive the truck, I drove it all over that day. We called the salesman from home and asked him, how long we can TEST drive this PU. He said as long as we wanted to. He was more interested in showing us his Fishing photos. He was NOT interested in if we wanted to buy the truck. We had a 2000 Ford F-250 with a gas engine for trade in. The Silverado was a Dermamax with Allison 10 speed transmission. Even if we were NOT happy with this 3500 with 8 foot bed, he would have let us walk away from the sale. I did walk away from the Ford Dealership that was trying all these tactics that the video talks about. The Dodge Dealership was the same, they tried to find me a Cummins but the one they had had the same mileage as my Ford Gas engine. There was NO pressure by the Dodge salesman to get me to buy the used PU. I am NOT happy with Ford and I have been a Ford truck guy my whole life. The 3500 Silverado looks so bad looking at the front of the truck. And she walks thru snow up to running boards. She has been in beach sand very soft and deep and drove it like no tomorrow. Just saying GMs transmission work great in snow and soft beach sand. But end of the day she is my work truck she has ( 275/70R18) tires so she looks great for a big truck. I do NOT really hear the tires.
Why can’t dealers just go back to the basic’s. Like the did years ago. And just sell close to or just above invoice on a new vehicle. Also sell a used vehicle for a 1-2 thousand over cost and pick try to make some more money on financing and warranties. Not make a ton of money on Avery way.
Ok guys why cant I get any percent at the omaha lexus. They won't budge. I ask often and have bought one used and one new. Never moved a penny. I am now wanting a new rx350. Am I just stuck or am I doing this wrong.
I think Brandon was one of the emotion buyer the guest speaker mention, get a deal he think a good one actually not but keep emphasis that I got the good one😅
These days, it takes deep pockets to live in Florida. The higher doc fees reflect that Floridians are, as a group wealthy. The average wealth of Floridians climbs daily with all the wealthy people moving there.
My way for buying a new car, come in with invoice price for model and options I pay dealer cost. I show invoice I have to dealer. If he agrees we deal, if no, adios!
I will also say the Financial manager was NOT a hard core guy with added on My and wife sat with him and he did NOT push us to add on the PU. She was only interested in the 8 foot bed ( had to have) For work truck. I have never had a financial manager as great as this guy. The Ford Financial manager when we bought a car from Ford was a A number one prick. He tried to con us into everything. Just saying watch out for the after salesperson meeting with sales manager in final pricing for ADD ons. Tell the NO on everything. See how they talk back to you. You can still WALK away, and do it, you are the buyer, you don't have to listen to this BS, you at the end of the day are paying for all this add on, do you really need any of this garbage 😊 just leave the Dealer, do you really need that vehicle today. We went into Dealership to NOT buy today, just looking at all the models. That's why I looked at Cummins and Duramax. And like I said I already bought Ford trucks my whole life. In 2024 I canNOT believe how Bad ass my Silverado looks to me and I am NOT a chey lover. These videos help so much in reality looking at different vehicle builds especially USED Diesel PUs with low mileage.
As a former car salesman, I have worked with several managers that refused to give numbers over the phone or email because their thought process was get the customer here. I hated dealing with that. It’s one of the reasons why I quit the car industry altogether.
This guy is full of sh#$. 1. Doc fees can be negotiated. 2. 10% off is lazy......you can do better. Going to the dealer is always going to get you a better deal. Why would a dealer give you a sensational deal if you can hang up and go to their competitor??? Going to the dealer and saying "I want to buy today" is cocaine for them
I bought a ford explore xlt for 19,500 out the door 21k I paid a dealer fee of 800 but had to negotiate all other bs fees once I got my final number I got a cashiers check they weren’t happy
1st gen Tesla was $32,000. When used you're gonna need a $20,000 battery. $20,000 from $32,000 is $12,000. The battery in the used Tesla shouldn't be factored into the sale.
Tesla Ev battery is guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 /150,000 miles,depending on vehicle model. Tesla guarantees at least 70 % battery condition left after 8 years. Hyundai/ Kia warranty is 10 year or 100,000 miles.
I had a similar experience when I was buying my Mustang Cobra. I went into a dealership; test drove the vehicle. I was filling out the paperwork after the agreed price and the salesman came in a said, "I talked with my manager, and we are charging $5k over sticker as a market adjustment." I said, "I am leaving." He said, "Wait, I will see if we can get it $3k over." I said, "I wouldn't buy it from you, if you would sell it to me $5k under sticker. " I bought another one for sticker price at another dealership.
Is there any doubt why people hate these bastards?
2012 I was going to buy a 2010 BMW 528i, 25K miles on the odometer, clean inside and out, still under warranty. The dealer was asking $29,500. I had doubts. I took the contract to my credit union, the underwriter offered to negotiate a better price for me, which she did. I got the car for $26K (tax & license included) 🎉. When I brought the check (from my CU) to the dealership I got the dirtiest looks from the finance mgr and GM. The sales lady was still extremely nice 👍
I wish all banks and credit unions did that for their customers. It takes the stress out of purchasing a vehicle.
I bought a 2017 Corvette with 18k miles on it from a Toyota dealer in Orange County two months ago. I had a fine experience with the salesman, it was finance managers that really pissed me off. They tried to sell me like eight different overpriced bullshit warranties and I said no to all of them. They had three different finance people try to come in and guilt me into buy the warranties I stood my ground and said no to all of them. $800 for a key warranty lmao.
Fellow 2017 C7 owner, a lot of us in the c7 group have had to replace our torque tubes. It’s a common problem these have, it’s about a $6k repair. Set some money aside in the future to plan on replacing it or get a warranty that covers it. Grats on the car!
Can I offer you outer body rust thru insurance for your floor matts? Only $2k.
I'd like to offer you lightbulb replacement insurance for $750. With a $100 deductible per bulb. Think of the savings over the life of the loan. 😂😂😂
I once bought a used car for $8k and they tried to sell me $16K in warranties.
I have always done my own deals for cars. I really enjoy walking out when the manager has “given me the best deal they can”. I have literally gotten phone calls from the dealership that I walked out of while driving home in the new truck I just bought somewhere else.
I live in Ohio, was trying to take advantage of ford's special financing on new 2023 F150. My local area was thin and overpriced. Found a dealership in Virginia who was motivated to sell a truck. Got the rate I wanted with an OTD I was comfortable with. Had it delivered to me in 48 hours. Be willing to talk to a lot of bad salesmen and move on until you find a good one.
I live in central ohio and have bought 7 of the 20+ new cars ive gotten in my lifetime out of state.. granted none of them since 2020.. but ive always been able to neogitate numbers over Email.. (I dont like phone calls because unless they are recorded its easy for a salesperson to say "oh thats not what I meant to say"... in all cases ive told them im from out of town and I want the deal done except for me to come in and sign the papers and drive my new car home.. (Ive never had one shipped.. I have used the opportunity to have some fun and an exciting roadtrip in a brand new car).. so ive either driven my trade (did that twice).. or flown / rented a car.. one dealer in indy in 2019 actually rented me a car to drive to their dealership and pick up my car.. but I think being out of town has an advantage.. that sales-person knows you will never even have a chance at buying if he says "you must come in".. and if you are calling a dealer out of town you are serious enough about a car he has to be willing to travel and get it (or have it shipped).. these are new cars so i dont have the issue of the car not being as advertised.. its brand new. and I upfront tell them "No little shop of horror addons".. seems to always be a tiny office with a little short dude behind a large desk.. if im getting an addon i tell them during neogtiation.. I actually *DID* walk from one out of state sale... they started in with the "my manager didnt approve our previous offer".. so I got right up, ordered an Uber and left... ended up calling his competitor who gave me a better deal, (got me the same car by dealer trade).. ... car buying is an adventure
Same, I'm in Cali and bought my Raptor using nationwide Autotrader search. Did the entire deal over the phone (text); Fedex me the paperwork and I went to pick up the Keys (from Little Rock, AR).
This is why the Tesla way of selling new cars is very attractive. All the numbers right in front of you and can be done from your living room without talking to a soul.
Push the purchase button, digitally sign 2 edocs, download the app and pick up your new car.
No finance guy, no undercoatings upsells, no running back and forth to a manager. Just the easiest way of buying a car there is.
It's as simple as that,, do everything online, no BS, get the delivery email, go to the showroom find the car with your name on it, swap the plates from the trade, sign once, and drive away.
saw this dealer here in Maryland that had some great sports cars with some really great prices. went over there to find out that they sell a powertrain warranty on top of the price of the car but said warranty cannot be declined or discounted! So, a car that was priced at 22K was now 27K because you had to pay 5k extra, because they said so and they would not budge on the price. Yup, that is when I walked out and never came back in
As I got up to leave I'd have said, "It sounds like you want to keep this car a lot worse than I want to buy it."
. 😂 right! Thought y'all were a store...you guys are starting a collection. 😂
I would have walked too but evidently a lot of people don’t.
You're all going to laugh so hard when these cars cost less then half of what they cost today in 3-6 month.
I can't wait until you can buy any car online directly through the manufacturer.
You can already "build" the car you want on a manufacturer's website and get the msrp. They just need to add the financing part.
Turning bad energy into quality content. Well done. Much respect!
Saw awful dealer behavior in 2021. Saw awful dealer behavior the last couple of months here in mid 2024. Takeaway = dealers are awful. Yesterday, within 60 seconds of walking through the door, the salesperson asks me some questions, one of which I answered "thats irrelevant. " He then turned the paper around and pushed it toward me and said , "sign at the bottom please. " It said "if numbers are correct I agree to buy today." I had not yet been shown the car I came to see, They had Not yet looked at my trade nor given me an offer on my trade. I had been in the dealership no more than 60 seconds.
I walked out.
I loved this episode! Such good content!
Certain auto groups that advertise "no haggle pricing" then have an $8,000 market adjustment on top of MSRP ‼️
"No haggle pricing" is code for we're going to gouge you for your money and your time. Run when you see that advertising slogan.
One of the best tubes I've seen on this channel. Lots of info, tips and insights into the process. Also, I'm not timid with car salesman but I dislike the process. I'd rather it was more "Here's the car, here's the price". I never considered a car buying broker before, but this tube changed my mind. Your guest knows exactly what he's doing and is confident. Why not let this pro handle the negotiating job?
Why were dealerships allowed to legally gouge people for 3 years,? I would think marking a vehicle 25 to 50% more because of the shortage should be illegal. No one is talking about this. And they cant say victomless crime because a lot of people have lost all their credit due to this. Yes, they werent forced into signing, but when ALL the dealerships are doing it, did anyone have a choice?
I think you may have ignored the definition of MSRP. You know it is suggested, not mandatory. Yes, people had choices. They were not compelled to buy at that price. Scarcity is also a real thing.
I am NOT trying to defend dealers at all. My goal here is to explain a perspective that you may have overlooked. If I am a dealer and I can make $2000 on a car, that sounds good. I look at my operating expenses of having that lot, the people, the software, the . . . I know that I need to sell 120 cars that month, making $2000 on the car to cover my expenses. Well, when I am only seeing 20 cars because of allocation issues, I have a choice. I can mark those cars up to make $12k per car to cover my expenses or lose money.
Last I checked, a car dealership is not a charity. As was mentioned in this video, profit is not a bad word. All we can do is argue on how much profit is there.
It's a free market.. (not really) but you weren't forced to buy a new vehicle.
I get the sentiment but their business is to make as much money as possible from a car sale.. nothing more and nothing less.
You always had the power to say "No, maybe I can't afford it now" I'd rather wait and buy it used or I'd try a different dealer, brand, etc... Then getting into an absurd debt.
To put this on the dealers absolves the consumer from making idiotic financial decisions.
I can sell some used socks for $7K doesn’t mean someone has to buy it. If the price is too high or the interest is too high they could simply say “no” but because a lot of people want to show off a new expensive car with the instant gratification (that last few months), they make these decisions.
My wife and I both would like new cars but the market isn’t right. I don’t have a dealer or a bank at my doorstep with a gun telling me to buy a car
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Yes, they could walk away, many people have chosen that path.
One of the best videos I warched on your channel
Always try to find a car from a private seller first. If you can't find the right car in the private market, then look at dealers.
In my 42 years I’ve never bought from a dealer!! I would buy from Brandon though, or an honest straightforward dealer in a heartbeat. I hate liars, cheats, and cons when it comes to my money.
When I purchased our current car I had an out the door price that I would not budge. Period. When we got to that price they brought up the doc fee. I said no. To the point that I was ready to walk out the door without the car. In the end I did pay the doc fee, but I also paid $417 less than the price I had negotiated for the car before the doc fee came up. I got the car out the door for my price.
Most car salesmen think that as long as they get you into the door, they can sell you whatever they want!
They can't with me. Always remember the old saying. They can't outfox the old fox. I am the old fox.
@@josephkelleher8820 They particularly prey on women and the poor. Disgusting.
13 K for a Tesla. You’re paying 10 K too much already ha ha ha ha
Right..Try getting these Rip-Off Dealerships to do Warranty Work on your New Vehicle!! Good Luck.
Buying a car at a dealership is robbery, and I think it's bad business overall. They have terrible tempers and they lie all the time. It's horrible exp to buy a new car. I had to buy one because my wife forced me to, or else I wouldn't have done it. It's ridiculous the things they charge for and all the hidden stuff that makes you so angry.
It's your responsibility to research no excuse for you getting charged for things you don't want...... plenty of videos too on how to avoid the fees....don't blame the dealer
@@truckercowboyed2638 It’s the dealer and their tactics. They do things to scam you. I bet that elderly people get screwed by dealerships all year round. I was told by the sales manager that I upset his sales agent because I ask a lot of questions, and I said, 'Well, I'm the one who is buying the car, not him.' He can go F himself!
@truckercowboyed2638 i dont think he was coming from a a place of ignorance but just feeling. Ive been shopping for 2 months now and its a complete joke how sales will treat ya and how offended they get when you will not bow to them. My wife got all hot and bothered for me last night after a deal after she saw how i dealt with a bad situation and flipped it on the dealer, for instance repair order shows they charged the ac fuel leak. I told the guy the whole system needs to be replaced...."what are you a mechanic? Nope someone who has knowledge buddy
@@mikes2687 lord!
@@truckercowboyed2638The issue is it shouldn't be that difficult just to buy a car at the advertised price plus standard fees
This is the reason I ordered brand new Tesla model 3 Long Range RWD online for $34,990 after $7,500 tax rebate. I have tried to buy used Tesla but dealerships make it so annoying that I quit after few attempts. I wish we could have other brands set up like Tesla.
Really helpful video. This is the one that motivated me to subscribe 🐱
Dang great information. You would think a dealer would sell a heck of a lot more cars and make a great profit in the long run just being honest like you. Going into a dealership is a 💩 show
1% Battery, walk away...run away.
They were happy to jack the price up by $5,000 and then leave him stranded with a dead battery 5 minutes after driving off the lot.
Pure Greed is why this exists. Plain and simple. LOL I remember one time a friend and I were with my mom trying to get her a car and we sat down with the dealer and negotiated a price, but it was way to high and my mom could not afford it, we gave them our best of what we could afford (mind you this was way back in the early 90's) and they said there is no way we could do that, so my mom who was upset at this point because we been there a few hours and they were jerking us around said no, never mind I'm going to go across the street and buy a car (she had excellent credit mind you) and as soon as we walk out the salesman came running after us, saying ok, ok we can do your price, but my mom was so angry at this point she said no I'll never buy a car from you, so we went across the street and with in like an hour and a half she was driving home in her new car and the funny part was we drove by the other lot and waved to them because the sales guy was out front.😂. I'll never forget that, she also had the car paid off in like 3 years and drove it for like 20 years.
What was the car?
Brandon talks about walking out on negotiations and then allowed himself to be strung along OVER THE PHONE. If a dealer won't give you a simple answer like the out the door price. Hang up the phone. They'll call you back, if they want to sell that car!
I tell them, you can't take a doc fee off but you can take that same amount off the car. After I already agreed on the car price of course.
The industry ruined itself with deception and greed. When an invoice - a legal document - is reduced to a synthetic representation of what a dealer actually pays for a car, something is wrong. Too many back channel revenue streams and bogus fees also poison the business. Given that most dealers have a service department absorption rate close to or in excess of 100% they can literally give cars away at "true cost" and make money. When a dealer says they will sell you a car at or below invoice they are admitting that there's a ton of hidden money in the transaction. All of the car buying drama is a self inflicted wound on the part of the industry. Before the Automobile Information Disclosure Act of 1958 requiring window stickers it was both worse and better buying a car. Before then you had no idea what the true cost was and only skilled buyers got the best deals. At least they robbed you with a handshake and a smile back then, Today they still rob you and don't even shake your hand.
I used to think that too, a new car is a new car. However, I bought a new Hyundai Accent in 2021. I really liked the car, and we wanted another car so we picked another 2021 Hyundai Accent 6 months later. Same trim so I didn't really take it for a long test drive. As time went on I discovered the second Accent didn't drive like the first one. It was slower, worse brakes, and didn't handle as well. There should have been no difference, but if you drove them both you would have thought they were 2 different cars. You can use competition in store buying, I have done it many times. I have also purchased 70 cars in my lifetime.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
You're putting yourself in between Tommy and caredge......whoa! Lol
As long as dealers are paying the FTC and let them do their sins, consumer loses
Thanks for all the info gentlemen! How do I find Tommy channel on youtube?
When you are looking to buy a new car or used car from a dealer....you have to be willing to get up and walk away! Its ridiculous... but you have to learn how to play the game or your going to get screwed!!
Through CarMax I Chan get a price online. I have never been able to get a price online with any other dealer.
You can say a relative, or co-worker has whatever vehicle that you want and you test drove theirs.
Because the LAW always allows this shit to go on . They need to shut all dealerships/ pos people down. I got caught up too by the lies . Now I struggle to make my payments but I’m gonna do it I’ll never go to another dealership EVER. Buy private. Let the dealerships go under.
Maybe i missed it, but when Tommy keeps saying "10%", what does that mean? 10% off of asking price, blue book, MSRP, etc?
He usually means 10% 3:58 off MSRP. That is based on watching his podcasts.
Sorry everyone I meant the Silverado looks BAD ASS looking at front of the PU
It looks 👍 with the AIR intake and design by GM to front of Chevys 😊😊❤😊 I love the look of the GMC and Chevrolet PUs and you can not be at the steps built into the PU beds. I use them all the time getting in and out. GM built these steps before any other PU manufacturing 😊❤
@1:22 He would definitely lose his job if he mentioned the numbers on the phone. And IMO, he HAS LOST customers because of the fees !!
Micromanagement at its finest. all dealerships do that. they are all thieves
I'm worried about you brother.... Looking to buy a Tesla? As a channel that reviews vehicles, including a lot of EVs, I cannot support this decision lol
The financing department when buying a car is a nightmare
I would not buy a Toyota at the present time. They charge a premium for their cars because they believe their cars are better than everyone else's. That might have been true a few years ago but not any more.
They still are better in that they actually back the warranty. Every time they make new regulations it takes a few years to get the engines to not break. Never buy a 1-3 year old model after change.
4:59 And that is why I loved buying my Tesla from Tesla. The price was on the website and set. I paid it. It was delivered to me. I signed two sheets of paper and it was mine. No getting jerked around, no waiting for hours for the finance department, no BS. I know Brandon wanted a used one for content/research, but if you're considering a Tesla, you better be getting a crazy good deal to not buy from Tesla, avoiding the dealership nonsense is worth a lot.
In my opinion it is best not to buy any newer car right now. To me it is financial suicide to finance any depreciating liability like a car for longer than 3 years and pay all that interest on the loan.
The Dealership I went to let me take the 2021 Silverado 3500 for a TEST drive. The salesman said take her home, Drive the truck, I drove it all over that day. We called the salesman from home and asked him, how long we can TEST drive this PU. He said as long as we wanted to. He was more interested in showing us his Fishing photos. He was NOT interested in if we wanted to buy the truck. We had a 2000 Ford F-250 with a gas engine for trade in. The Silverado was a Dermamax with Allison 10 speed transmission. Even if we were NOT happy with this 3500 with 8 foot bed, he would have let us walk away from the sale. I did walk away from the Ford Dealership that was trying all these tactics that the video talks about. The Dodge Dealership was the same, they tried to find me a Cummins but the one they had had the same mileage as my Ford Gas engine. There was NO pressure by the Dodge salesman to get me to buy the used PU. I am NOT happy with Ford and I have been a Ford truck guy my whole life. The 3500 Silverado looks so bad looking at the front of the truck. And she walks thru snow up to running boards. She has been in beach sand very soft and deep and drove it like no tomorrow. Just saying GMs transmission work great in snow and soft beach sand. But end of the day she is my work truck she has ( 275/70R18) tires so she looks great for a big truck. I do NOT really hear the tires.
I recently showed an interest in Ford Lightning. The sales guy called me up and told me about all the great deals that Ford is offering. Right.....
Why can’t dealers just go back to the basic’s. Like the did years ago. And just sell close to or just above invoice on a new vehicle. Also sell a used vehicle for a 1-2 thousand over cost and pick try to make some more money on financing and warranties. Not make a ton of money on Avery way.
How do I get in touch with your guest. I’m looking for assistance in buying a used car for my daughter? Appreciate your efforts. Tks for sharing.
Circle twice got it 😊😊😊
Can you put a link to Tommy's channel?
Hi :)
Ok guys why cant I get any percent at the omaha lexus. They won't budge. I ask often and have bought one used and one new. Never moved a penny. I am now wanting a new rx350. Am I just stuck or am I doing this wrong.
Did the $5,000 add all come from various fees? Can you provide more details>?
I think Brandon was one of the emotion buyer the guest speaker mention, get a deal he think a good one actually not but keep emphasis that I got the good one😅
And the beat goes on .......
Until the buying power of the dollar rises, nothing changes. Nothing 😅😂
Love seeing him in your channel after I've seen u so many times on his
And he looks so young...so when he's 80 he'll still be able to attract much younger women!
I never pay doc fees. Never ever.
Im in FL. I notice we have the highest Doc fees of any state in the country!!
These days, it takes deep pockets to live in Florida. The higher doc fees reflect that Floridians are, as a group wealthy. The average wealth of Floridians climbs daily with all the wealthy people moving there.
As he said, he demands more off the car since the doc fee is mostly profit
If someone wanted to hire your guest to negotiate on their behalf, how would he be reached?
I just walk out if get the runaround. Don't need it.
Rolodex??! I can understand the southern guy saying that, no offense. Kind of surprised that thenortherner, didn't react to that noun.
Love the channel but I’ve seen the same thumbnail and video title about three times in the past two weeks.
Sorry... I hate having to think about doing them for the lives so I get a little lazy on them :)
Ask for the cheapest car of that model on the lot. Youll end up with a 6 year old car that lost most of its value.
Good vid
Sounds like a lawsuit to me
10% of what? msrp? the ridiculous price the dealer quoted with several thousand in junk fees?
There you go
What's the name of your EV channel
Want you just go online to manheim auction n buy one out of town n pay for shipping
If they won't tell you walk away.
My way for buying a new car, come in with invoice price for model and options I pay dealer cost. I show invoice I have to dealer. If he agrees we deal, if no, adios!
What is the name of Tommy’s channel on TH-cam?
I will also say the Financial manager was NOT a hard core guy with added on My and wife sat with him and he did NOT push us to add on the PU. She was only interested in the 8 foot bed ( had to have)
For work truck. I have never had a financial manager as great as this guy. The Ford Financial manager when we bought a car from Ford was a A number one prick. He tried to con us into everything. Just saying watch out for the after salesperson meeting with sales manager in final pricing for ADD ons. Tell the NO on everything. See how they talk back to you. You can still WALK away, and do it, you are the buyer, you don't have to listen to this BS, you at the end of the day are paying for all this add on, do you really need any of this garbage 😊 just leave the Dealer, do you really need that vehicle today. We went into Dealership to NOT buy today, just looking at all the models. That's why I looked at Cummins and Duramax. And like I said I already bought Ford trucks my whole life. In 2024 I canNOT believe how Bad ass my Silverado looks to me and I am NOT a chey lover. These videos help so much in reality looking at different vehicle builds especially USED Diesel PUs with low mileage.
Welcome to our world
Brandon is that 10% off msrp?
I' dealing on dealer profit, I'm flexible, how much I want the car!
Seems like now only want to sell one vehicle and not more over lifetime and family and friends
11:57 Gen Z: What's a "rolodex"?
I like your content but you need some different video thumbnails
Sorry... Sometimes I get lazy on the live stream thumbnails
I am sorry but I think Tomi is weird himself.
Private party is usually the best way to go. Cash is King.
Are you seriously talking about wasting my time when I'm 1 of 1?
Does being a cash 💸 buyer give me an edge?
That hasn't been an advantage for over 20yrs. Dealers make money on the loans
As a former car salesman, I have worked with several managers that refused to give numbers over the phone or email because their thought process was get the customer here. I hated dealing with that. It’s one of the reasons why I quit the car industry altogether.
Tell them you need Vin you want to car fax on your own as you always. Use email
I always buy from indie seller 😅
This guy is full of sh#$. 1. Doc fees can be negotiated. 2. 10% off is lazy......you can do better. Going to the dealer is always going to get you a better deal. Why would a dealer give you a sensational deal if you can hang up and go to their competitor??? Going to the dealer and saying "I want to buy today" is cocaine for them
I bought a ford explore xlt for 19,500 out the door 21k I paid a dealer fee of 800 but had to negotiate all other bs fees once I got my final number I got a cashiers check they weren’t happy
55k miles
Kinda jelly lol. I paid that for my 16 explorer back in 21 with 129k. Was book value but needed a car
Plain and simple "Greed".
Alfred E Neuman………….
Wait til.the dealer finds out they were out smarted by a kid.
A smart kid
Whats this guys fees?
No secret dealerships scsm you. Buy Tesla, no dealerships
At what point can you reveal that you’re a cash buyer?
When you speak to finance, the salesman is for negotiating the price. They have no reason to know how you plan to pay for it.
I sold powersport vehicles for a dozen years...never give a price over the phone. I never sold a single thing, over the phone. Never.
good for you?
Seems like a poor strategy
1st gen Tesla was $32,000. When used you're gonna need a $20,000 battery. $20,000 from $32,000 is $12,000. The battery in the used Tesla shouldn't be factored into the sale.
Tesla Ev battery is guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 /150,000 miles,depending on vehicle model. Tesla guarantees at least 70 % battery condition left after 8 years. Hyundai/ Kia warranty is 10 year or 100,000 miles.
@@haroldmichael3492 Too bad the Kia warranty is voided if you are a day past the recommended maintenance schedule on anything.
I would not give you .13 cents for a tesla.
Gotta save the polar bears in miami FL.😷
Have you been in one, have you driven one? If not you are talking rubbish.