@@chieckenman4432 I am no expert neither have any experience and nobody asked me, but it seems logical to me to invest in armor instead of weapon, if weapons can’t do much damage for you because of your armor, you can end foes with even with your bare hands or low quality weapons.
I was surprised too. But I think the spikes will take some power from the blows and didn't ad much benefits against an well armored opponent with hardened steel plates!
Could be only especially mean peasants used spiked versions. Ive seen some treatise images of armored fighters with these, and they were smooth surfaced @dequitem
@@kyle18934 I think round ones would be better against plate armor since full energy will transmitted into the plate. But the spike one would inflict additional flesh wounds against no to lightly armour targets.
Bevor we had the fight I believed the flail would be worse. After the fight I think it's a powerful weapon if you have a big spike on the other end of the pole.
wonderful seeing the advantages of a (two handed) flail highlighted, namely the difficulty in blocking against it and being able to use something with more torque in a closer space
The halberd could have easily been used as a crook around the flail guys neck. But i believe that would risk serious injury to the fighters? I dont know how much neck protection they have.
Wow. Some of those strikes with the flail looked like they must have really hurt, even with the armor. I'm very impressed at how hard you guys got after it!
"Stop, stop, he's already dea-a-a-d!" This is some top quality realistic fight, Hollywood nervously smokes in the corner. Who would believe that one day TH-cam will have this quality of content.
You guys are amazing, seeing the forms taught in HEMA applied to a genuine fight is fantastic. It is much appreciated to witness the realism of how throwing and taking blows repeatedly without having to stop due to a point, can have an impact on the fighter’s performance. Keep up the great work!
I'm a wargamer and I have miniatures with these flails. I always wondered how to use them,.....now I know! Not as elegant as I'd imagined. hahaha TY to BOTH Actors in this short-clip! Bravo Sirs'!!!! I owe both a Pint if we should ever meet!
What I love about this is the opponent's instinct is to block it like a regular polearm, but that doesn't work with the flail, even blocking the shaft the head still comes around from unexpected directions and hits you.
The humblest weapons are often the most brutally effective. Cheers to you for having the courage to fight against someone with a flail! Their appearance is very deceptive and people often forget how they were used by peasants to kill knights and experienced mercenaries!
You guys are insane! I hope you don't hurt yourselves. You are among the only people who can open a window into the past like this. At the end of the video you really looked like you had been knocked out! I'm surprised to read that he was actually hitting you on the head while you were on the ground. Impressive stuff as always.
That's me. I used the halberd, because I am the more technical fighter with poleaxes. We wanna test how good I can defend myself against the flail. Ps. Yes the flail hurt me and nearly knocked me out a few times!
Joh I was not expecting the flail to be that effectif. I always thought they were underrated, but I'm pretty sure it was far more effectif then the morning star.
I love everything about this video! The cinematography. The epic armor and fighting. The guy switches to his secondary. The tactical combat roll. And the merciless beating 😅😅😅
These videos are absolutely incredible, really. Well done! I saw a few times where the flail was swung at a typical defensive hold and then wrapped around and smashed into the helmet. Seems like a quintessential "counter meta" weapon (A weapon that is deliberately weird so that it takes experienced fighters by surprise). How hard were the strikes where it was blocked but still hit the helmet?
The block take some damage and you only take the force of the metal end with spikes. So it still hurts and disrupt your attacks, but it will not end the fight, despite the spikes will hit a soft target.
Dank Kanälen wie diesen werden meine Ausgaben für Rüstung ad absurdum geführt. Ähnlich wie meine Trainingszeiten und Einheiten - Danke dafür! Liebe geht raus!!!
Most of the force looked as though it was lost before impact. Saying that, the flail did get around some typically deffencive guards the more standard pole weapon offered. Great video, hope your enjoying making them 😅
Very interested in further Flail videos. I think everyone assumes it to be crap because the short ones you see in media arent considered practical. Hell might as well test those short 1hand ones too @dequitem
This is incredible, you're the only people I've seen so far who fight as if this is a real fight for their lives, this kind of footage should be shown in schools and universities when the argument about medieval warfare is studied.
@@dequitem That is true. Still, this does give insight about the dynamics of a fight between armored fighters, and if we consider that the most common form of fighting was skirmishing this is incredibly valuable.
Have just seen a short of yours. Read your channel spec. Subed. I hope your content is as good as described. It's good to see ACTUAL fighting with armor, weapons, techniques, and environment as close as possible to the real deal.
I think I will not make one, but I will make. Video about the effectiveness of a flail in a few months after testing some more variants of flails without spikes but bigger and heavier bludgeons.
@@dequitemOh wow, that would be awesome, I'm excited. If they perform anything close to how well it did here, then Shadiversity might have to reassess his opinion on flails.
The spikes take of some power of the blows and didn't ad that much against an full armored opponent in hardened steel. So I think a flail without spikes will be even more powerful against armor. But you need a spike at the other end to finsch the job!
What's interesting to me watching your videos is I never thought how effective grappling is in armoured combat. It would seem a strong wrestler almost always has an advantage over their opponent.
"FlAiLs aReN't PrOpEr WeApOnS" you can literally hear that guy say "ow" every time it connects. Also, if that first downswing from the flail had connected, the other guy would have been in the hospital, armor or not. Brutal
Hi, this type of weapon is strongly associated with our national history (Czech). This weapon was if not invented at least for sure popularized by the Hussites during their revolution in the 15th century. I don't think flail was used primarily for dueling. The Hussites had very specific and complex war tactics that had nothing to do with the way you duel. So I expected the knight with the halberd would have a clear advantage. I'd be very pleased if you would critically evaluate flail as a weapon in your own words in any future video 🙂 And thank you for your channel. It's priceless source of real life historical information 👍
Thank you! Yes I will make a further video to the combat with flails, after recording some more duels with it. There are historical examples of duels with flails like in the Freydal tournament book. But of course it wasn't the purpose of that weapon.
@@dequitemOh, great :-) I had assumed about flails that it was the weapon of choice of the Hussites because of its lower cost, yet it had most of the general advantages of polearms like range and powerful strikes (but incapable of thrusts). Another reason for them may have been that a large part of the Hussite army were former farmers, so they were skilled with flails as tools. But I didn't expect flail could be a match for dedicated polearms like halberds. It was a surprise to me 🙂
Man this just puts into perspective how important armor must have been at the time, without it that halberd guy would be a bloody puddle on the ground.
The Warhammer and the Flail have to be my favorite weapons. One because the warhammer is very reliable and fun to wield, while the flail looks like a q-tip😂
Great video as always. I know you love great sword so I’m surprised you weren’t the one with the flail, also if you get the time, you all should look through Meyer’s flail section and give some of the actions in there a shot.
It seems like the flexible head actually helps the flails use in close combat, wrapping back to whack your opponent on the inevitable overswing, unlike the morningstar Sick video, thanks for this. I wonder if theres any historical evidence of these being used for armored fighting? Ive seen images of treatises showing it but I dont know the context
heck yeah, a hussite flail (cep) was an incredibly useful and cheap to make weapon, effective even on full plate of that period, tho as you mention, hardened steel is a bit much for it
@@dequitem if you make it from scratch, yes, but the fact it was made by modifiing farming tools made it easier to aquire than those, with a spear needing a proper treating of the tip, and the morningstar head not being the easiest to make
When you just spent all your money on armour and have to lend a weapon from the local peasants.
😂😂😂 Indeed!
Now that its mentioned, would a medieval fighter prioritize getting good armor, or good weapons instead? Curious.
@@chieckenman4432 defenetly a good armor. There are many pictures of simple man in armor with spears and wooden clubs!
@@chieckenman4432 I am no expert neither have any experience and nobody asked me, but it seems logical to me to invest in armor instead of weapon, if weapons can’t do much damage for you because of your armor, you can end foes with even with your bare hands or low quality weapons.
And it turns out to be an absolute beast.
Dequitem:
Flail guy: So you have chosen *_death._*
I was actually screaming, strike harder!
@@dequitem Then what is your safe word?
@@chengkuoklee5734 )))
@@chengkuoklee5734"Harder, daddy!"
@@TheStraightestWhitestmine is pineapple ever since I watched Little Nicky
Everybody shit talks the flail until they get smacked by one.
Love seeing this weapon get some much deserved love.
I was surprised too, it defenetly felt leathal.
Probably just tired of the overblown fictional designs that seem like huge spiked bowling balls attached to a stick.
@dequitem that hit to your lower back when you first fell looked like it got a strong reaction even through the armor
@@riyadislam3441Oversized spiky balls attached to a short stick by a chain longer than said stick. The worst 😒
@@dequitem that first dodge was a matter of life and death it felt, that hit looked painful and it didn't even land
This has got to be the most underrated channel on all of youtube, these guys are the epitome of historical combat
Thank you very much!
Hell yeah! Would love to see one of you guys use the three headed flail!
Yep I instantly subscribed to him
Agreed and same
I love this channel but how do they do it with out, injury. those hits look spicy
That flail was surprisingly effective. Beautiful and realistic fight as always.
I was surprised too. But I think the spikes will take some power from the blows and didn't ad much benefits against an well armored opponent with hardened steel plates!
Could be only especially mean peasants used spiked versions. Ive seen some treatise images of armored fighters with these, and they were smooth surfaced @dequitem
@@dequitem do you think if it was say a 5 pointed star instead, that it would have better effect, or would just round be better?
Im pretty sure those were real swings lmao
@@kyle18934 I think round ones would be better against plate armor since full energy will transmitted into the plate. But the spike one would inflict additional flesh wounds against no to lightly armour targets.
This man catries the whole flail community
Bevor we had the fight I believed the flail would be worse. After the fight I think it's a powerful weapon if you have a big spike on the other end of the pole.
Halberd community is in shambles
wonderful seeing the advantages of a (two handed) flail highlighted, namely the difficulty in blocking against it and being able to use something with more torque in a closer space
Yall spar hard. Much respect.
Also, Thanks for doing this. It's actually amazing data for experimental archeology.
The fight could have end different, so keep it with a grain of salt.
@@dequitem very true.
The halberd could have easily been used as a crook around the flail guys neck. But i believe that would risk serious injury to the fighters? I dont know how much neck protection they have.
Wow. Some of those strikes with the flail looked like they must have really hurt, even with the armor. I'm very impressed at how hard you guys got after it!
I am fine but I had a headache after the fight.
If this was old TH-cam. This channel would have blown up. Great content. Keep em coming!
Love your content. I feel like I went back in time in a time machine and really witnessed an epic battle between two knights. Thank you.
Your welcome ☺️
"Stop, stop, he's already dea-a-a-d!" This is some top quality realistic fight, Hollywood nervously smokes in the corner. Who would believe that one day TH-cam will have this quality of content.
Most of TH-cam stuff is still shit, but I try to change that.
This is the first time i hear you gasping in pain and those hits sure looked wicked strong... flails are mean weapons
They hurt a lot but my opponent Niklas is also a strong man and has powerful strikes with every weapon!
1:21 OUCH!!! That must be the hardest blow from all of those flail strikes.
Yeah, I recoiled when I heard that sound because usually these nights fight silently.
You guys are amazing, seeing the forms taught in HEMA applied to a genuine fight is fantastic. It is much appreciated to witness the realism of how throwing and taking blows repeatedly without having to stop due to a point, can have an impact on the fighter’s performance. Keep up the great work!
some of those rib shots felt personal
I'm a wargamer and I have miniatures with these flails. I always wondered how to use them,.....now I know! Not as elegant as I'd imagined. hahaha TY to BOTH Actors in this short-clip! Bravo Sirs'!!!! I owe both a Pint if we should ever meet!
What I love about this is the opponent's instinct is to block it like a regular polearm, but that doesn't work with the flail, even blocking the shaft the head still comes around from unexpected directions and hits you.
The humblest weapons are often the most brutally effective.
Cheers to you for having the courage to fight against someone with a flail! Their appearance is very deceptive and people often forget how they were used by peasants to kill knights and experienced mercenaries!
You guys are insane! I hope you don't hurt yourselves. You are among the only people who can open a window into the past like this. At the end of the video you really looked like you had been knocked out! I'm surprised to read that he was actually hitting you on the head while you were on the ground. Impressive stuff as always.
I'm surprised by how much damage the flail does, you can even hear the opponent going "ow" a few times.
That's me. I used the halberd, because I am the more technical fighter with poleaxes. We wanna test how good I can defend myself against the flail.
Ps. Yes the flail hurt me and nearly knocked me out a few times!
@@dequitemwow be careful. Still can’t get concussions in helmets! But I appreciate the badassery none the less.
Your content is straight up gold brother! Showing us all the fights we need. Hope this channel blows up!
I hope too.
Twohanded spiked flail rocks!
And it hits like a rock!
0:53 was my favorite shot, displays even though the poleaxe blocked the strike, the flail came down and still hit him, also wonderful takedown 😆
I like that you guys use weapons that are EXTREMELY lethal even against armor
Joh I was not expecting the flail to be that effectif. I always thought they were underrated, but I'm pretty sure it was far more effectif then the morning star.
Everytime i watch one of your videos i think "omg this is insane."
This channel deserves millions of subs.
The dood with the flail was like:
*I'm gonna open this tin man because I'm hungry and in the mood for some canned ribs.*
God this channel is so cool, the duels you guys have are so realist it’s gotta hurt. I’m glad I found this !
That flail looks brutal.
What a beautiful fight, days like these when a new post arrives makes my day a lot beyter
I'll never get tired of watching you guys, actual full force medieval combat is just too good. That flail hit at 0:53 was a fuckin' bellringer.
I love everything about this video! The cinematography. The epic armor and fighting. The guy switches to his secondary. The tactical combat roll. And the merciless beating 😅😅😅
So everything ♥️
Man that was intense! Realism through the roof!!! Top notch fight!
Flail brothers unite
this was brilliant!
You know the halberd dude is hurting when you can hear him audibly grunt from every strike by the flail💀😭
I am genuinely shocked at how well that flail did.
Me too.
Nice video as always! Loved the way you continued to beat his motionless body lol. Very much looking forward to you using a gun in a future duel
I was the motionless body!
@@dequitem you need a new assistant
These videos are absolutely incredible, really.
Well done! I saw a few times where the flail was swung at a typical defensive hold and then wrapped around and smashed into the helmet. Seems like a quintessential "counter meta" weapon (A weapon that is deliberately weird so that it takes experienced fighters by surprise).
How hard were the strikes where it was blocked but still hit the helmet?
The block take some damage and you only take the force of the metal end with spikes. So it still hurts and disrupt your attacks, but it will not end the fight, despite the spikes will hit a soft target.
@@dequitem Awesome! Thank you for the reply :)
I really do enjoy these battles. I appreciate the effort and the risk the guys take.
That was a surprising result 😮...fantastic video Sir, and shows just how effective this weapon is 👍
Man, Exanima 2 looking great
Effective! When what you do is driven by passion, nothing can stand in its path. Stay passionate!
Dank Kanälen wie diesen werden meine Ausgaben für Rüstung ad absurdum geführt. Ähnlich wie meine Trainingszeiten und Einheiten - Danke dafür! Liebe geht raus!!!
Gerne geschehen 😉 Liebe geht zurück!
always enjoy the spars. thanks. :)
First.
Love your content.
Still working on my tabletop rpg.
Hard to make knights feel cool compared to wizards
Make them overpowered and give them cool weapons and everyone will love them!
In nordic folklore, iron holds power over the supernatural. Give steel plate magic resistance, watch the wizards squeal >:)
I found my favorite channel
Thanks.
Most of the force looked as though it was lost before impact. Saying that, the flail did get around some typically deffencive guards the more standard pole weapon offered. Great video, hope your enjoying making them 😅
This one was especially brutal… also happy to see the halberd :)
Can’t wait for a fight analysis!!
I will make a video about the effectiveness of the flail in the next months after testing some more variants of flail's without spikes.
Very interested in further Flail videos. I think everyone assumes it to be crap because the short ones you see in media arent considered practical. Hell might as well test those short 1hand ones too @dequitem
Bro that is straight fire my guy🤙☠️🔥
This is incredible, you're the only people I've seen so far who fight as if this is a real fight for their lives, this kind of footage should be shown in schools and universities when the argument about medieval warfare is studied.
Only historical duels. Battles were often a waiting game.
@@dequitem That is true. Still, this does give insight about the dynamics of a fight between armored fighters, and if we consider that the most common form of fighting was skirmishing this is incredibly valuable.
Have just seen a short of yours. Read your channel spec. Subed. I hope your content is as good as described. It's good to see ACTUAL fighting with armor, weapons, techniques, and environment as close as possible to the real deal.
Excellent as always. That flail looked mean!
When I did HEMA flails were an absolute and non-negotiable no go... and you guys decided to spike it as well. Madlads.
😁
Such great blows with the pole spiked flail. It confirms to me that is a good weapon for serious battles
That was awesome! Great channel!
Your welcome.
Awesome fight..thanks for sharing. Now i want a play D&D...😉
Your channel is a gem man! I wish Hollywood would hire you to improve their unrealistic fighting scenes.
It would be a pleasure for me!
Amazing video, thank you! Really looking forward to the fight analysis from you
I think I will not make one, but I will make. Video about the effectiveness of a flail in a few months after testing some more variants of flails without spikes but bigger and heavier bludgeons.
@@dequitemOh wow, that would be awesome, I'm excited. If they perform anything close to how well it did here, then Shadiversity might have to reassess his opinion on flails.
The spikes take of some power of the blows and didn't ad that much against an full armored opponent in hardened steel. So I think a flail without spikes will be even more powerful against armor. But you need a spike at the other end to finsch the job!
This channel is very educational.
This is so brutal
A fan of Taiwan supports you to keep making more videos like this
💯💯💯💯💯
What's interesting to me watching your videos is I never thought how effective grappling is in armoured combat. It would seem a strong wrestler almost always has an advantage over their opponent.
"FlAiLs aReN't PrOpEr WeApOnS" you can literally hear that guy say "ow" every time it connects. Also, if that first downswing from the flail had connected, the other guy would have been in the hospital, armor or not.
Brutal
Some very nice grappling by the flailman too
Hi, this type of weapon is strongly associated with our national history (Czech). This weapon was if not invented at least for sure popularized by the Hussites during their revolution in the 15th century. I don't think flail was used primarily for dueling. The Hussites had very specific and complex war tactics that had nothing to do with the way you duel. So I expected the knight with the halberd would have a clear advantage. I'd be very pleased if you would critically evaluate flail as a weapon in your own words in any future video 🙂
And thank you for your channel. It's priceless source of real life historical information 👍
Thank you! Yes I will make a further video to the combat with flails, after recording some more duels with it. There are historical examples of duels with flails like in the Freydal tournament book. But of course it wasn't the purpose of that weapon.
@@dequitemOh, great :-)
I had assumed about flails that it was the weapon of choice of the Hussites because of its lower cost, yet it had most of the general advantages of polearms like range and powerful strikes (but incapable of thrusts).
Another reason for them may have been that a large part of the Hussite army were former farmers, so they were skilled with flails as tools.
But I didn't expect flail could be a match for dedicated polearms like halberds. It was a surprise to me 🙂
Man this just puts into perspective how important armor must have been at the time, without it that halberd guy would be a bloody puddle on the ground.
Thank you
Excellent
THAT WAS SO PERFECTLY STAGED I BELIEVED ITS REAL. AND IT IS, AND ISNT AND IT IS , BUT ISNT. BUT IT IS.
Mr Dequitem, this is awesome beyond words. How often do you practice?
6 to 8 hours every week at the moment.
The Warhammer and the Flail have to be my favorite weapons. One because the warhammer is very reliable and fun to wield, while the flail looks like a q-tip😂
Wow... this is one that doesn't end with dagger wrestling! Flail OP!
😂
Why do I keep expecting one of the to go:
_"Ah, fuck. I can't believe you've done this."_ like that meme.
YEAHHHHHH DEQUITEM!!
Damn, those flail hits looks powerful, I always considered it as a weak weapon
It isn't, but you can't thrust with it.
@@dequitemDo you think that can be somewhat mitigated by adding a spike on the back end?
Encore une superbe vidéo !
Il faudrait faire des films ou des courts métrages avec un petit scénario....
Ce serait trop cool.
👍🏻
1:25 lmao that Souls roll attempt
Oof the thorough beatdown at the end, jesus
Wow did not expect it to be as effective as it was.
the " i'll beat you with this flail" bit was funny
That last hit was personal 😂😂
Autsch! That must have hurt.
It did.
I would love to do this. This seems great
flail knight literally fights like he has plot armor, like the fight scene choreographers purposefully made him look cooler
There is no choreographer, but if you wanna see more of the armor from Niklas you can watch his Instagram.
Link in my video description.
@@dequitem ah i know its not choreographed i was just saying he looked cool
So you mean the costume designer.
@@dequitemyeah close enough
Those smacks over the head when blocks are attempted are huge.
flail is a really unique polearm. sure it has some decieving range.
Pureblooded dueling weapon. That must've hurt really bad.
“threshing the wheat from the chaff”
People in 1980 we gonna have flying cars in the future!
People in 2024:
😂
Going back to the 1800’s
1:23 It's so funny when he acts like he's hurt after being hit🤣
It did hurt!
@@dequitem
are you okay? sorry🤜🫷
When you've challenged someone for a duel for calling you a peasant.
🤣🤣🤣
Next time flail vs longsword 💥💥💥💥
What about mace and shield vs flail?
@@dequitemHell Yhaaaaa…💥💥I got to say every combination you do is amazing man🫡🫡
Great video as always. I know you love great sword so I’m surprised you weren’t the one with the flail, also if you get the time, you all should look through Meyer’s flail section and give some of the actions in there a shot.
I am the one with the halberd 😉 and we looked indeed in the flail section of Paulus Hector Mair.
Been a minute since ive seen him post.
"Because he was the nerd with the axe" 😂
0:53 That sure did some damage, you can hear it
I felt it.
Alas, the i-frames could not save the good sir on his final roll.
It seems like the flexible head actually helps the flails use in close combat, wrapping back to whack your opponent on the inevitable overswing, unlike the morningstar
Sick video, thanks for this. I wonder if theres any historical evidence of these being used for armored fighting? Ive seen images of treatises showing it but I dont know the context
Yes there is an example in the Freydal.
Sick dude. Looks like they were onto something. I agree that having a buttspike would complete this package too. Sick weapon @dequitem
L'histoire dit que le caméraman est toujours vivant , mais malheureusement se n'était pas le caméraman 🤣.
Super combat vous me régalez ❤️🇲🇫
heck yeah, a hussite flail (cep) was an incredibly useful and cheap to make weapon, effective even on full plate of that period, tho as you mention, hardened steel is a bit much for it
It's not that easy to build. A morningstar or spear is much easier.
@@dequitem if you make it from scratch, yes, but the fact it was made by modifiing farming tools made it easier to aquire than those, with a spear needing a proper treating of the tip, and the morningstar head not being the easiest to make