Martin 000-28 vs 000-28EC (Clapton Model) - Is there a difference?
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- We just reviewed Martin's popular 000-28EC (Eric Clapton) guitar and got the request to compare it to the standard 000-28. What the heck is the difference anyway? Can you hear it?
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I’ve been playing 50 years. Finger picker, mostly on my couch. In the mid-2000s, kids gone, college paid for, I spent several years trying every high end guitar I could get my hands on, searching for my forever guitar. Martins, Huss&Dalton, Taylor’s, Guilds, you name it. I wanted to fall in love. I tried an ec early on and could not believe my ears. Didn’t really want a signature guitar, but kept coming back to it. In 2008 finally bought it. I’ve never regretted the decision or wanted more. Since then, I’ve played a bunch of other nice guitars, a couple costing between $10k-$15k. The ec has held up just fine. I usually describe the tone as “warm honey.” It may not be the guitar for everyone, but it sure checked all my boxes.
Got ya' beat, bro... took my first guitar lesson in 1961. However I didn't really get serious until '64-65 when the Beatles got going and the Stones "Satisfaction" came out. That tune did it for me!! 👍👍
I've got a Sigma / 00028 50 years old , never seen another one , I've traveled around many Guitars shops trying Martins bought a couple , years ago but non too compare with this Sigma. No paper label inside , just a number stamped near the truss-rod that you can see through the sound hole.
The regular 000-28 sounds a tad bit brighter.
You guys should compare two identical D-18s or something and see how much difference there is, or two J-45s, or whatever you have two of in stock. To me, these two might have some differences (the neck might make a difference), but it might also just be the difference between two specific but otherwise identical guitars, or even two sets of strings.
the EC looks better for sure with the vintage toner top ; it also sounds marginally better , but you did play it each time more smoother than the standard series 😕 ; anyhoo I would go for the OOO EC even it's about a few hundred bucks more.
regarding string spacing nut width etc. I personally do not go more narrow than 1&3/4 nut and 2&1/4 saddle , cause I'm strictly finger style player only ; given that , if you own several guitars and all are differing necks , your fingers will learn to adjust automatically with the guitar , rather quickly without any noticeable mistakes. ❣😎
I traded up my standard 000-28 for the EC yesterday, even though I find the neck very troublesome. I cant get my thumb around it and it's crippling my chording. I had my eyes and ears open when I paid up for it and did it because of the amazing tone, that made the excellent sound of the standard sound muffled by comparison. Now after a day I want my old one back, but it's disappointing to say the least to go back to its 'inferior' tone. I have always, for 50 years, gone with slender neck profiles, and while your comment is vaguely encouraging to me, I'm not sure I can teach the old dog that I am, this new trick.
All about anatomical adaptation, and I don't want to sacrifice the amazing sound of the EC, but if I can't play it.......?
Would love to see a 000-18 vs 000-28 comparison for 2020. The previous comparison was, if I remember correctly, prior to the updates to the 000-28.
Hi Adrian, how does that Mahogany Martin 00-15-M sound when flat picking ? Sounds great for finger style playing. Just curious. Thank you.
The Clapton model has different neck, braces and string spacing.
The mod v Mahogany neck is larger than stock 00028. The bracing is 5/16” braces vs 1/4” and the string spacing is also at 1/4 inch vs 5/32 for stock, which is a shade above 1/8 inch.
I also think that they hand tune the braces more on the EC. I’ve played both side by side and the Clapton plays easier with a low growl when fingerpicked. I’d go for the EC sunburst as my choice.
The EC appears to have a torrified spruce top, although it could also just be the type of spruce and finish as well. Beautiful guitars both
Nope, that's just the toner they use, "vintage toner" on the EC and "aging toner" on the standard, I think?? Something like that.
Not Yuppified. It is a toned finish.
The EC comes with Clapton strings which retain the traditional formula. The standard 28 comes with either Martin's new standard strings or Lifespans--both of which sound thinner and tinnier than regular strings. That's probably the subtle difference you're hearing. I wish they'd restrung with the same strings before comparing.
I tried most of the " re-imagined" variants and liked the 000-28 EC the best tonally. I bought it and ended up returning it and getting the 000-18 MD instead. I could not play that massive neck comfortably. The greater mass of the neck probably gives the EC more resonance than the standard. I wanted to keep it and really gave it a go but am too old to relearn the instrument,
which speaks to the extremity of the difference in feel the EC has in comparison. Aside from that, they use a darker color toner, which probably makes it more attractive. I finally bypassed all these issues with my choice. The 000-18 MD is a very bright sounding guitar. If I'd wanted warmth and depth I'd have bought another dread.
I own and play a Martin OM28V for 14 years now, but I have to say that Martin 000-28C is better and fuller sounding than mine.
The EC just sounds fuller I can’t articulate why
The EC sounds fuller because he strummed right over the sound hole. On the other one he strummed on the back edge of sound hole. Any guitar sounds different strumming in those different spots. So we can’t really make an objective comparison. Go back to just after 3:00 and notice that he doesn’t strum each guitar in the same spot. Very important.
got to be set up with identical strings! strings make a hell of a difference!
It sounds like there's a bit more low end to the EC and more mids to the reg. Is that in his hands because of the neck profile or are they really more different than advertised? I'm not shy on neck profiles. I'm more concerned with the actual sound of the guitar
the EC model seems to have herringbone ‘round the soundhole😉
Probably the only one who feels a real difference is the player. More spacing, the soft V. I think this is great. Only thing I hate, the sign on the neck. Otherwise, could be the perfect 000
sound the same to me. I would never know which is which
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So it’s apparently all about string width, and neck shape ...i thought there was no difference in sound
With the subtlety of sound difference with my better headphones on, the fact that the strings are different would make me even less likely to think there’s a substantial difference, let alone the sound difference of the same model guitar - individual to individual. I would happily take either one secondary to the ergonomics of a great feeling neck
You are deaf.
EC sounds much better to my ears, fuller, rounder.
I agree more richness
Can the guy with hair play?
The differences actuality compliment each... record the song twice kids
So what? Two guitars of the same exact model and production date can sound different
Not the facts
Do your homework. You should already know the differences in specs before you make a video comparison, don't you think?
That is really annoying, that they ask each other questions and neither one knows.
Why is one darker? I don't know
Are they both set up with the same strings? I don't know
Is the bracing different? I don't know......etc
They sound exactly the same.
Except for the string spacing, everything else is the same
Nope, quality of materials and a modified V neck.
These guys are nice fellas, but it took 5 minutes in a 6 minute video to get to the playing. Please, give us less yapping, more playing.
you donuts should of been more prepared.
The previous 000-28 standard model was notably more different than the 000-28EC, when compared to the new standard. With the 'reimagined' changes, the 000-28 has much more closely aligned with the EC 'where it counts': while all three have been Sitka and EIR, the previous 000-28 had bracing that wasn't scalloped and used closed tuners; the new 000-28 and the EC have the same bracing now, and open-gear tuners. The biggest functional difference between the two now is that the EC has the modified-V neck with a standard taper, the standard uses the MLO (modified low oval) with a high-performance taper. Different strings come on them, which can make a difference, but once you change the strings, that's irrelevant. Aside from Eric's signature and the paper label the toner on the top (cosmetic), and the gloss neck versus satin neck that you noticed, the string spacing at the bridge is probably the biggest noticeable difference: but that's 2-1/4" on the EC, 2-5/32" on the standard: that's a difference of 3/32", that's 0.09" difference. At the 12th fret, the fingerboard goes from 2-1/8" to 2-1/4" wide on the EC. Another cosmetic difference would be that the standard has antique binding, whereas the EC has ivoroid binding. The standard has bold herringbone and a standard rosette, the EC has fine herringbone and herringbone in the rosette. Different dot on the pins, different case...
Of course, we're discussing compressed youtube video over PC speakers, you need to hear these in person, with the same strings to remove that variable, but otherwise, slight variances in the woods could account for more audible differences than the specs themselves cause.
Leslie Bright Down at the bottom of the hood there might be, aside of the solid ‘genuine mahogany’ of the EC neck, a “personal touch” when being put together at Nazareth (as cunningly observed in the video), because I once had both models and got rid of the 000-28 (a 2018 Reimagined model, BTW) keeping the 2015 EC which sounded fuller and projected a lot more, using same exact strings, 92/8. However I must admit there’s a very small difference favorable to the Standard 000-28 in the hands of Quinton here, probably because of the strings, making it sound a wee bit clearer and a tad louder... I don’t know 🤭
@@fernandofernandezescalante2554 Martin has started specifying the neck of standard models as "select hardwood". To date, this has either been genuine mahogany, or Spanish cedar, either of which is acceptable. Both of my Martins were spec'd as 'select hardwood', but both are genuine mahogany (often referred to as Honduran mahogany, regardless of not coming from Honduras). As much as I love most of the aspects of the EC, I'll admit a preference for the MLO neck. But that's personal preference; another may prefer the V...
Leslie Bright 😂 I definitely don’t dig the “V” wider neck, and that was the main (and only) reason I sought the Reimagined 000-28, but again, I found the EC a much better sounding guitar (already broken up and open?) and that’s why I kept it, but I know that the timber thing is complicated, after the “Reimagined” appointments winding up on most Standard Series models is there any truth in the rumors pointing at “premium” Sitka and Rosewood used for the Clapton? Could that, apart of the signature thing and aesthetic details, justify the extra U$S 650?
@@fernandofernandezescalante2554 Martin grades wood on cosmetics, they don't do tap testing or the like. For a spruce like Sitka, the grade is on a scale of 1 to 8. The reference is a bit older, but the way it read was, a standard 28 should be a grade of 3/4, whereas a herringbone should be a 5/6. Even though the standard series now has herringbone trim (save the D28), it should (theoretically) be a 3/4 grade top, whereas an EC should be a 5/6 top. Again, that's appearance-only. A D-42 or a 42 Martin will be a 7, have more uniform grain used; a D45 would be an 8. Some will argue that such can affect the end-result sound, others will state that it's only appearance, and a plain D28 could sonically equal a D45.
The 000-28EC was originally introduced in 1996, and I would suggest that it began the reemergence of Martin. Many signature models have come and gone since then, but the 000-28EC has become a staple. The reimagined Series didn't come about until the D28 was done in late 2017, then the rest of the standard series, the "reimagined" series, came about in 2018. In 2019, the old standard series was discontinued, and the 'reimagined' series became the new standard series. (I don't know of grading of rosewood or mahogany.) With the new specs, I'm not sure what the future of the 'regular' EC will be. They have the 'other' EC models now, the white and blue models (though I don't know if they'll be around long). (And, there's been Brazilian, and Madi too; but those are now collectors' too.)
Leslie Bright That’s more than I would learn on a Martin factory tour!!! Guess that’s all there is know. Thanks a lot! 🤩
I have played both of these, and prefer the brightness of the 000-28 Reimagined series over the mellowness of the EC. It just comes down to what kind of tone you like in a Martin. If you play them both and like the EC better, spend the extra $700 and get the EC.
Of course they are different. I´ve own both and the Clapton is a superior guitar in every way. Martin uses a higher quality wood in the clapton, the rosewood grain back and sides are tighter and darker. The Clapton is louder, more articulate and has more bass. The 000 28 is a superb guitar but the clapton is better. The only thing you have to consider is the V neck. It´s not for everybody so make shure you try one first.
I bought a 2009 Clapton. I was lucky enough to be able to shop on 48th street NYC when there were at least 3 Martin Dealers in the street. I tested a 00028, OM28, and a Clapton. I hated (and still do) the toxic orange finish of the Clapton, but it hands down blew (and still ) away all the other same sized Rosewood models. Of my 14 guitars. It is the one I will never sell. I play in a very well known BrooklynnBluegrass jam circuit, and although my skills aren’t the best, My Clapton’s Tone Always turns heads. Love that guitar👍
I got a deal on/bought an EC a couple of years ago but just couldn't get on with the neck profile - sort of a V shape. Sounded good but I sold it a few months later totally due to the neck profile. It was a good learning experience about neck shapes! For me it's a hand-cramp producer for extended playing/gigging. It was my first and only experience with that neck profile. It's not for me but obviously it works great for Eric Clapton! ;)
As others have posted, EC model to me sounds somewhat warmer and fuller. Strings alone could do that.
I have a feeling they have different strings
Im pretty sure there is a signature clapton strings from martin aswell
Have to say, the EC is the only Martin out of a room full I wanted to come away with a while ago at my local shop.
Simply put...the ec has wider spacing, mod v neck shape and amber toner lacquer. I will be purchasing the 000-28ec as soon as I can fund it (hopefully next year) such a beautiful guitar and just has the sound and charm for what I want to be my life long daily.
Is the neck similar to a CEO7?
@@Jeff-mn7cl Not sure on that but the mod V is nice for me as I hang over a lot with my thumb and just find it comfortable, it won’t be for everyone.
Any two versions of the same guitar will sound slightly different, maybe even more so.
Absolutely right. No two pieces of wood will behave identically. In this particular demo, I agree that the EC sounds a bit warmer. The same difference could very well show up when comparing one EC model to another or a stock 28 to another.
I went to a local music store this week to check out both the re-imagined 000-28 and the EC signature model. A video only goes so far, I think. I'm a pretty particular listener and I normally pick up on even slight differences that others don't hear. With that said, though, the only difference, in person, I heard between the models is that the 000-28 re-imagined version sounded brighter to me. It could just be the strings, though. So, if the sound is the same, what's the real difference? A signature high on the neck and a different neck profile. I prefer the re-imagined neck profile. Now I have the guitar bug for the re-imagined 000-28. I have the 000-18 model in sunburst and think it would go nicely with a traditional finished 000-28. I'd have to hide it from my wife, though, because I already have 8 guitars, 7 resonator guitars, a banjo, and 8 tenor ukuleles. Thinking of making a secret compartment in my bedroom wall to hide future purchases.
Yeah right I feel ya there, I'm just thinking how the hell I can sneak a second hand one of these in the house, because if she twigs it cost me over 2 grand (English money) she'll be so pissed! I have about 10 acoustic, 15 electric guitars atm already...
It becomes easier the more guitars you have. My wife quit asking if it was new after number 50. I think I have over 70 quality guitars and 3 that arn't.
The regular OOO-28 model has slightly more zing and brightness in the Treble compared to the Clapton OOO. Other than that they sound IDENTICAL. I think the main difference will be in the playability.
There are both great guitars. You have to play one and decide for yourself - then play it for a year and you will know what you've got. I've had a reimagined 000 28 for about a year now. It was from the Martin Custom Shop, hanging on the wall at Portland Music - nice folks. Mine is unique, I think, in that it has a torrified top and a modified V neck with a performance artist taper. I don't think any other Martin comes with this neck combination, don't know why. Mine just gets better and better. I don't particularly like the aging toner on the EC, but different strokes for different folks. Martin and lots of other companies are making fabulous guitars now - we are in a golden age for guitars.
I’d guess they use higher graded wood for the EC-Modell. Whenever I had one in my hand it felt and sounded amazing. Maybe the best Martin there is.
Please be more detailed in your descriptions. I still do not know the dimensional differences, neck profile (low oval, modified v, soft v, etc) finish material diff. if any(poly, nitro, etc), bracing diff. if any. nut width. I could go on and on. What are the specific differences between these models? that's why we watch these videos. for exact info so we can make an informed decision. statements like "I think" or "it might be" or " Id Imagine" are less than helpful! It would be great if you did a little more research before you do a video. I have been very frustrated watching your videos because I still do not have enough specifics after watching. Thank you
I've played maybe a dozen OOO-28 ECs and (my opinion only) they all sound tight, thin and boxy. If you're thinking of getting a OOO-28EC, don't be taken in by the hype and the name. Instead investigate the Martin OOO-28 MD (Modern Deluxe). THIS guitar is what the Clapton should have been and what it should have sounded like. Apples and oranges and like night and day. Again my $0.02 only.
The 000-28EC model has a beautiful vintage tint to it and the guitar is great for finger picking and strumming, it is a high quality made guitar with excellent tone.
Love my 000-28EC . Love the tone of this guitar ! And the neck is the most confortable neck ! 😍
I got to play a 000-28EC a couple hours ago. It's a fantastic instrument. I own a OM-21 which also has the same body but different scale length and can hear a major difference between the two. The thick 000-28EC neck is disconcerting at first but is actually easy to get used to. I need one.
The Eric Clapton comes with a V Neck! I had a 000-28 for 30 years I bought it in 1971 the same year as Eric got his first one! These then came without a truss rod and the necks warped eventually Eric auctioned off his the same year I traded mine for a vintage Strat! I'm gonna get one of these Clapton Models soon! It was Erik Fransden who steered both Eric and I to 000-28's back in 1971!
Very cool! Thanks for comparing these two models. I think they both sound great. I like wider string spacing and V necks, but the standard Martin neck feels great too. I don't know, it's hard to pick just one. I have guitars with different nut width's and neck shapes and after playing with them for a while and getting used to them they all have they're place. But i could personally do without the signature on the 20th fret.. Thanks again for making this video Quinton and Paul 😊
No signature.... electrician's tape.
.6” is not a substantial difference. The 000 does have a bit lower tension, maybe that can be observed.
I have the 000-28 MD. Not sure I love the asymmetrical neck. Wish they would have used a modified V.
Hi,
Great video thanks. I'm looking for your opinion on the best choice of strings for my 000-28EC? Most people seem to say the maximum gauge for it are 12s I guess, given the shorter scale length. I'm using it for fingerstyle blues. What do you think?
Thanks,
James
Is there a real, appreiable difference between a OOO-28 and the OOO-28EC Eric Clapton signature model? Basically, no, there is not. Once you get above the 18 series, Martin guitars start looking better and more deluxe and ge a bit more playable, but don't necessarily sound any better.
That's because the solid, straight-grained spruce and rosewood and mahogany and ebony and Koa and other tonewoods Martin uses in the -18 series are the same quality as the woods they use for their.21, -28, -35, -41, -42 or -45 models. My advice? Save a few hundred clams and buy the D-18, OM-18, OOO-18 instead.
What DOES seem to make acoustic guitars sound better is .. well ... time plus superior build quality. Fully dried tonewoods, especially soudboards, tend to sound better as they age, because as they do so the resins in the soundboards, bracing, back and sides and fretboard crystallize. This apparently opens up the pores of the wood somewhat and allow it to vibrate more ideally
Good acoustic guitar music is all about great sounding tonewoods and solid, careful build quality. The pricy exteror appointments allmanufacturers offer are for collectors and those guitar enthuiasts with plenty of $$$. I mean, if one were to buy a 30,000 to 50,000 dollar guitar, wouldn't you become a bit scared of damaging it? Great instruments need to be played, not hidden away in their jail of a case, like a jailbird.
Great review! I'd be really interested to see a comparison between the 000-28 standard series, modern deluxe, and custom shop 1937.
Eric always said on his signature model they took the unplugged guitar and Martin measured the action, scanned the guitar to see what the bracings were like dimensions wise and copied it in full as near as they could to the 30s model he played. That's got to have a sound changing effect. Either way its an awesome guitar that everyone who plays it loves.
I got the guitar and it's my least favourite. Action is high and the lacker on the neck peels
@@maxhammer4067 I have heard that before about the model.
Mine is a very early one when I suppose QC was a priority to get sales up.
@@robertdickinson889
Yea mine sounds great but its just horrible to play. But I hate any action lol I mainly play my taylor 614ce the most I love how it plays and feels.
The wider neck (standard taper) on the 000-28EC gives more mass & therefore at bit more depth & sustain to the output. Both models are great though!
Now that the 000-28 has been taken back to its vintage-type specs, I wonder if it will cut into the Clapton sales much.
Probably.
I always thought the EC was a bit overpriced for what you got.
Well you dont get the v profile neck and the wider string spacing. The EC is closer to vintage spec than the reimagined. I have an EC in Sunburst and it's the best acoustic I've ever owned. It's great for both finger picking and strumming.
@@sc12100 You were donating to EC's retirement and CFM IVs pet charity with your money and he got the tax write off.
@@jeffhildreth9244 how did I do any of that if I’ve never bought an EC Martin?
@@sc12100 Hypothetical. .presuming one should buy an EC NEW.
Hey Mr. Custer, there goes another one !
And how would you know the 000-28 revamped would cut into the REC sales. ?
I liked the Clapton model but both sound great.
I bought a 000/28 back in 71. Very crisp and bright, but lacked the good bass for bluegrass. Traded for a D-28 a few yrs later. It was a mistake. But I don’t think you’ll ever get everything you want...
Ec model... for whatever reason blew the other away. Just ordered a new 000-28 standard it's beautiful but doesn't tell me what it sounds like. Martins r bright enough for me I'm hoping for some bass. We'll see, I know there's only so much bass from the 000 body
000-28 neck material select hardwood
000-28ec neck material mahogany
In reality though, Select Hardwood on Martins is still Mahogany. The reason they call it this is because many of the headstocks will have wings. So in a way, the "Select Hardwood" is not a true one piece neck. Thats all it means.
And that doesnt mean all models with select hardwood have wings either. Plenty of models with select hardwood are a one piece solid neck and headstock.
Its just Martin covering their ass when people notice the wings on the headstock.
The guy with the cap is a good player, but his thumbpick gives the bass notes a harsh sound.
Mine is an 000-28 Norman Blake model 2005 with 12 frets and slotted head.
Otherwise the same as the EC, I think.
Nice guitser -- but not a D-28 Brazilian,which I also have.
The 28 sounds great in Open D for some reason -- rearrly projects the sound out.
Meant 000-28 sounds great in Open D.
Love the vids guys, but some research might be nice. I could be wrong but I believe the 00028 has non-scalloped bracing the ec has scalloped bracing
@Gwyn Jones I stand corrected😉
Simply EC model sound more mellow and pleasing to hear.
If you're into vintage sound & looks EC model is the one to go.
The EC sounds mellower.
bloodnokian i find that too. Ec is mellower.
I thought side by side that the Clapton had greater resonance, a fuller tone. More depth and round fullness. The regular 28 sounded bright but flatter by comparison. I have a Clapton and every time I pick it up, I'm astonished by how resonant the wood is, how notes spring from it as if powered from within. It's really a magnificent guitar. I have a 1960s D28 I bought when I was in high school, and several other Martins but this is the most amazing of them all.
I agree. But I exchanged mine for a 000-18MD because I could not play that neck. I wish I could have kept that particular guitar, it was beautiful, and I think the neck helped give it that extra resonance..........more surface area and mass under the strings. Anyway, I like mahogany more than Indian rosewood and the MD, while not everyone's cup of tea, has zing in spades and like you, it pleases me every time I play it. I also had a D-28 from high school back in the 60's, and it was destroyed in a fire when I left it somewhere I thought was safe. C'est la vie.
I think the STD is just a touch brighter...but just a touch...
At first I thought that the EC sounded warmer and fuller. But if you go back to around 3:00 when he strummed one and then the other, he strummed the EC more in the middle of the sound hole. He strummed the regular one just at the back edge of the sound hole. That is more than enough difference in the strumming proximity to void any objective comparison in tone.
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I have the 09028 standard bracing non scalloped. Its definitely a more finger picking boxier sound than todays 00028. The ec and standard 00028 are very similar now due to it bracing. Maybe a difference in tone wood grading picked for each model?
Gents there is a few differences quite a few.
With its short scale, modified V neck and 1-3/4” nut width, the vintage-styled 000-28EC is unique among Martin's current line up. Most of Martin’s 000/OM bodied guitar guitars feature a long 25.4” scale neck. The shorter 24.9” scale, wider 2-1/4” bridge pin spacing, and rear-shifted vintage-style scalloped bracing make the 000-28EC a particularly rich, warm, and open instrument.
Sitka spruce and beautifully quartered Indian rosewood with parchment bindings and vintage appointments. Herringbone and zigzag trimmings, bone nut and saddle, ebony board and bridge, bevel-edged tortoise pickguard. High gloss lacquer finished body and neck, including the headstock’s front and rear. Vintage style tuners, old-style headstock logo. With deluxe hardshell case
I hear some fret buzz on both models.
Weak playing.
Isn't Clapton models used to be made with European Spruce?
I thought I remembered something like that too. Maybe it was a custom EC model or something but that does ring a bell.
I prefer the Standard 000-28's tone to the EC. I think you could hear the Standard much better in the Mix, with its predominant mid range, the EC doesnt have that, the EC has a very balanced tone which would be great for playing by yourself. just my silly ole opinion
Musicians Friend shows a price premium of $660 for the EC...those are some damn expensive strings
@s d good to know. thanks
@s d one of these days...
The 000-28EC has a solid mahogany neck, while the standard 000-28 model has a neck made of "selected hardwoods". I think that the more solid neck gives it better sustain. I think the EC also has better grain quality in the back & sides too. I imagine that it all helps to give it a better/richer tone.
A warmer tone on the EC to my ear...sweet!
What about the 00028 re imagined ? This seems to me to be the same as the EC version ? Just one week into ownership and really loving it
That's what they have here is the reimagined one. Wonderful guitars.
Clapton has a v neck and wider bridge string spacing
Personally don't hold with toner. The natural tops I had on my 000-28 and D-28 coloured up beautifully . Both beautiful guitars. Instead of the EC, I've bought a CEO-7 which is delightful.
With hearing quite badly affected by aircraft engines, I didn't really notice much difference, they both sounded great.
EC sounds a little deeper, a little richer. Not sure why?
@@Shilling_guitar885 Agree. I have a 000-28 std, 2011 model. Have settled into mostly using Elixir PB lights .012 - .053 Really suits the guitar. Strings make a huge difference sometimes.
Have to say, it's the only Martin out of a room full I wanted to come away with a while ago at my local shop.
Thank you for this video. Very helpful. How about a EC Martin vs Dave Mustaine Gibson ? 😁
Not a valid test with regards to tone or overall sound. The setups are different first off. Besides that, you can compare two exact models of any guitar and each will have a different sound quality to it -- every guitar is unique, in that respect. You can compare the physical construction and materials, as for the sound, that is individual to the guitar itself given the composition and age, etc. That said, go with the EC model...it's a beautiful guitar overall. On another note, I have played no-name model guitars that sound GREAT, simply because of the age of the wood and the setup (strings used, etc).
I purchased a 00028. I hate to say this but my $200 Yamaha sounds better and has more sustain. Maybe different strings. Maybe needs to break in. I reached out to Martin but never heard back. So far not impressed.
Both very good choices and I I'd go with the 1985 Yamaha LL55 custom. 😀
I just play three chords but I sing a big lot…y will get 00028…period I am retired y she too
I SO wish they were 12-fretters, I'd be all over 'em!
Agree.
I love my 000 12 fretter, that’s the perfect guitar for me
Agreed.
When I finally had the finances to get my first Martin I tried around 20 of them at a Martin dealer. The final shootout was between an EC model and a OMC28E and I chose the OMC28E. The main thing was the neck and the scale length. Since I knew I would need a utility guitar and play at lot of rhythm, the OMC28E was my choice, and I do not regret, sorry Eric ;-) The pickup system rocks too!
At 3:38 .... Not "similar"... very different. The Clapton is far superior in tone.
Clapton sounds like dud!!
I know it's supposed to sound "warmer" but I wouldn't but that particular ONE!!
I'm sure they're others that project WAY better than that ONE!!
The Clapton has a herringbone rosette and the regular 000-28 does not.
“Well let’s go ahead coz we dont know what tye heck we are taking about.” ... that crack me up. But honestly for me they sound the same... a Clapton on the neck is cooler for me. 😊😊😊
Necks make a difference. Think about it. Old T Bar vs today etc …
No one is mentioning the price difference im pretty sure the EC is $500 plus more $
I hear a slight difference, but I think it comes from the strings, either different brand (or gauge) or the regular 000-28 having older strings.
I have the 00028, was wondering what the ec sounded like. They EC sounds just slightly more detailed, but the 000 has a nice classic ring to it
000-28 EC = The Clapton
000-28 reimagined = more vintagish than before
000-28EC = bluesy = rich, dark, dry, loose
000-28 = simple, bright, moist, tight
What is the string spacing at the bridge of both guitars? My 00-18 is 54mm at the bridge, so is similar to my Telecaster. Most of my Gibsons are 52mm. My Stratocasters are 56mm and 54mm. I prefer 54mm. Thanks in advance. (BTW 2.25 inches is about 57mm)
2 5/32" on the 000-28 and 2 1/4" on the Eric Clapton.
So subtle....heh...I think any one that buys the EC is bying the printed signature more than any possible differene in build. If there is any. Or...is Martin pulling a fast one here?
Possibly…but when it’s time to sell it…the EC will always give you back your money and some…
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Oh, the two guitars are very similar in terms of sound characteristics when Quinton really plays them at the end. The EC might have a slightly warmer sound and it may be my ears but it sounded more rounded, fuller. Both are awesome!! 🙂🙂