Bronica ETRS Medium Format. Whats it like? Print Exchange Episode 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
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ABOUT THIS VIDEO
EQUIPMENT USED
CAMERA - Bronica ETRS
FILM - Bergger Pancro 400
DEVELOPER - Rodinal 1:25 8 mins
STOP & FIX - Fotospeed
ENLARGER - DURST M605
PAPER - Ilford MG Deluxe 9.5x12 inch
DEVELOPER - Ilford MG
STOP & FIX - FOTOSPEED
PRODUCTION GEAR
CANON 6D, GOPRO 7 BLACK, TASCAM DR10L MIC, SENHEISSER SHOTGUN MIC,
NEEWER LED PANELS, GVM COLOUR PANELS,
Editing - FCP, PHOTOSHOP, LIGHTROOM
ABOUT MY VIDEOS
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Hahahaha that's the best opening I've seen in a long time !!!! Great video Roger lovely prints 👌👍
was it a naked photographer reference?
If I had know that intro was your plan, I wouldn’t have lent you my apron. It is now forever unclean.
I'll send it back with the print 😂
Welcome to the Bronica gang!
Yay! Another youtuber with a Bronica ETRS! Love mine!
The intro was hilarious 😂 😂
@Jack Warner 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 The hostel shed
It was a lot of fun in the beginning! Great parody, I recognized him!
Your totally having fun with you videos and shoots and we're all having fun following along! Great shoot! I really like the images the Bronica produced for you!
Poor Emma!
I used to use Bronicas every day. Fun video! Loved seeing one in action again! Keep a frequent check on all the little screws, they come loose and fall out.
That opening was too funny! Interesting collaboration idea, looking forward to the rest of the series.
hahhahahaha your wife was magic in that opening sequence, can't stop chuckling at the look on her face "you dirty git" ......lol. I had an ETRS many years ago and also found the 50mm MC lens very " soft"
The only channel that makes me laugh with a great sense of humor and learn always something at the same time. Cheers Roger 👍
Cheers Peds x
Great video. Funny how I follow everyone in the photo exchange
As a brand new ETRSi owner, this is a great video! Great walk through of your shoot and really enjoyed the dark room look!
Thanks Jim. Enjoy the etrs
Great video. I got into bronica cameras back in 2013 when a lady in Canada gave me some darkroom gear. She asked if I knew anyone that wanted a bronica ETRS. I said I would love it but have no money. She says it was $3000 13 years ago and I had a look at it. I had no idea if it worked as it needed a new battery. I said the most I could offer was $100 as I was strapped for cash. Later she phones me and says I know you will use it and that's all that matters. Why don't you come and take it for free. Tyre marks left in my friends house drive where I was staying I headed back. The camera came with large flash gun, brackets as in your video 3 lenses, 2 backs one for 220 film and all boxed! I have used it and it worked with no problems. It takes stunning photos and is light as medium format cameras go. After that I needed the square format and picked up a dead man's camera a beautiful bronica S2a all in its case and complete with backs and lenses. Even if you have to pay for it you could buy at least 3 bronica versions to one hasselblad with one lens and I bet you can't tell the difference in quality.
Yes there are some kind people out there Peter that are just happy to see these old beauties in the hands of someone that will get far more joy than sitting in a cupboard or cabinet.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss so true. I have not used it since I got the S2a as I love the square format. Getting so many cameras now that I need to rotate the use!
What a great video all around! I have an ETRSi, so when this popped up in the recommendation, I launched it immediately. Always nice to see that fine camera get some love.
You had all cylinders firing on this - awesome location, great video, great compositions, nice complimentary soundtrack, comments, and of course the entire darkroom session. Oh yeah, and that intro!
Thanks for watching Mike. I enjoyed that shoot
Nice to see my old homeland on TH-cam. Hopefully I’ll be able to visit Appuldurcombe again next time I’m down, and maybe take my ETRSi there….
"The Naked Photographer" from Great Britain!!! LOL
Right said Fred will be proud of you
ha ha. diply
I have two ETRS. I have had 3 before it, sold two that were given to me because I was dumb and the third was stolen. I love the cameras. But I have learned to live with the occasional skipped frame.
I been binge watching Any videos about the ETRS as I just bought one comes with 2 lenses WLF and AEII prism speed grip can’t to get it and load it up with film I ordered a loads of B&W and a few rolls of colour that with my rolls of 35 mm I am going to need. A bigger fridge lol 😂 I am so excited really looking forward to using it keep up with your awesome work I know I and many others appreciate it 👍🏻
Nice Jonny. Check out a channel called "before digital," guy has a video on the etrs
Love this camera
Gréât work in darkprint, and photos are very interesting
Cheers Phil.
Naked Roger you have nailed this to a tee, I was at appledurcombe campsite last May whilst my other half was cycling round the island doing the Randonnee. I really liked your stairs and banister shots, the composition was stunning. I am looking at getting a Bronica myself so this was really informative and nice to see its capabilities, someone else had suggested the pistol grip for going handheld. I can’t imagine how many takes you had to do as a I can imagine the missus not keeping a straight face.
Also, the 220 back seems to take the 120 film. I ran a roll with it. I will now for sure, tomorrow when I pick up my film.
Have a 6x4.5 version of this camera with 75 and 150 lenses.
Super camera - did some lovely B+W prints of my cats!
So original I know ! - but they are so different to the digital stuff ! Craftwork makes you work differently which is good.
I've had mine for a month now, and have done the multiple exposure thing. I was testing the shutter and aperture on a new lens, with the back off and forgot to switch it back. Think I had 4 different shots one one frame. I've kind of fallen in love with it. Might as well, really. I love my SQ and my S2A. Why not her. I think I've blown through 5 rolls since I got it.
Great video, as always.
easy mistake to make shellie. I've done the same on the Mamiya RZ too!
Fantastic video as always, that opening nearly made me have to buy a new keyboard due to coffee damage.
Going to be following this with great interest.
These bronica videos could not come at a better time either, I have an etrsi arrving tomorrow.
Keep up the great work
Nice!
I have one of these. Love it.
Epic video once again
LOLOL winning with the intro
The start of the video was EPIC :)
That Bronica looks very simular to the Kiev 88. Love old medium formate cameras like this. So much fun to shoot with. Want to take my Kiev down some old WWII bunkers.
Great parody on The Naked Photographer!
Love it.
Get yourself the PE lens series for the Bronica, you will be surprised at the difference in image quality the newer formula makes. I've had an ETRSi for 20 years, and when I'm out and about the Hasselblad stays home and I pack my Bronica kit. Zeiss lenses they are not, but the PE series will impress you.
Great to see the collaboration with the other guys. Another good video Roger👍
Cheers Mike
I used to have one of these classic 6.4.5 Medium Format few years ago and I used it for Fashion and land scapes and Portraits photography
What happened to it?
I love mine. Has some foibles. I'm always looking for the right button 😂
Great video. I nearly bought this camera early 2000 just before the influx of digital camera and then the Nikon D100 came out and bought that instead. I am encouraged in shooting film through yours and @Ribsy videos so might look into buying one.
Nice print Roger! I like the third stair image 5:32, fantastic sinister diagonal composition. Cool print collaboration too. Cheers 🍻
I spent ages on those stairs for 3 composures. Glad you noticed.
Excellent photograph, great job mate!
Many thanks!
British humor EXELLENT Phil¡¡¡¡
Great shoot and results gotta love the Bron 📷❤️
Yeah it just works Paul
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss had my ETRSi since the late 80s never failed until I lined up a tidy shot at the beach last year got twatted by a rouge wave who knew salt water fries electronics 👀🙄 I’ve since dug out an earlier etr body seems so far to be in decent Nick love the sound of them📷❤️
Awesome that the bronica works. Also, bought my valoi holders today. Thx for the code :)
Awesome. I like mine a lot
Great video,
Who gets the print from Matt Marrash, I’m guessing that it’s going to be a shot of Strudel
We shall see! ;)
Mat will send a platinum/palladium print to Azriel Knight. Spoiler: It's not Strudel :-)
@@olafwDE, I know I saw Mat’s video.
I would love to do some Platinum Poladian prints but I'm still learning LF and the chemicals are really expensive, so not going to waste money until I have the skills to make it worth wild
Rodinal 1 : 75 is a fantastic soup on Tri-X medium format, for 15/16 min, 1. minute continuous, one time p. min. "upside down and back." Premium film developer since 1898!
Intro....... What a surprise!!! 😳😩😂 Really made me laugh..... Poor Emma!! Her face was a picture 🤣
Cracking print bud :-)
The Bronica IS an awesome camera aint it!!! 💪😎👍
It's very light Iain.
Pfffaaahahahahaha😂 😂😂 Epic naked photographer intro. Thankfully you didn't expose yourself.
Love this print/photo 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers Jason.
ahahah you tried to expose yourself nope nope...great as usual Roger
ha ha nice one Gianni!
Heres my little take on it all. The ETRSi is a great little intro to the world of MF. The SQAi is an easier thing to live with as like the Rollie and Hass 500 series it is square so cropping portrait or landscape is therefore a choice you can make afterwards. The most complete MF useable outside the studio is of course the Mamiya RZ ProII - I had mine after the aforementioned cameras shooting weddings and portraits and commercial for about ten years. A better camera but far more difficult on location would be the GX680II as it shoots both portrait and landscape like the RZ with a revolving back and despite being made of mostly composite material - the body is surprisingly light - it is just too big to use handheld. If anyone finds themselves at The House Of Photography in Covent Garden have a gander at my GX680III in theri Heritage Dept complete with every lens which I very kindly donated to them since they were so good to me in the past - and I was a Fuji Ambassador for a while - I had about four of them and this was the spare as were all the lenses. However by far the sweetest and most manageable film camera i ever owned was in fact the little baby Rollei SLX - square format compact left and right handed at the same time and just sat nicely if on a tripod and or in the palm - it's the only thing I have found which is similar to my little 907X having never had the Hass equivalent fixed lens SW. I find I use the 907x more than my H6D100c even on commercial shoots on location simply because its so compact. and since I usually only shoot automotive it lends itself to the 'you can only use it in landscape mode idiocy'. Which brings me full circle to the benefits of the 645 - its MF but its quite compact compared to the equivalents in SQ - another contender would of course be the Mamiya 645 - but I tried it and didn't like the lenses - they are in a much poorer league than the RZ lenses. - the Bron lenses are the bomb for the money though. Get them now before this video hits 12m and everyone has shot out and bought one!!!
Thanks for your story. I'll have to check that place out in C.Garden.
Heres a challenge for you, I have the ETRS and was looking at upgrading to SQA / SQAi to get a square crop format, one of my Bronica ETRS focus screens has lines etched into it showing a square crop? I wondered what quality you could get out of a print by cropping the 645 neg to 42mm x 42mm square? total area is then 1.76 cm²
would be interesting to see whether I actually need the quality of a full 56mm x 56mm neg?
Interestingly, I searched around and have not found one single video of cropping 645 to square so it would be a first!
Keep up the good work and oh yeh,.... I subbed!
I've cropped loads of 645 negs square in the darkroom. It's my favourite look for a print. Sometimes I have taken the photo with crop in mind, other times I wish I had lol
Haha! I had the same problem with the multiple exposure switch when I bought a winder grip recently - I had film in the camera and wanted to test the winder out, so I set it to multi-exposure with the lens cap on... all good so I paid for the winder and went about my day....
Realised a few hours later that I was shooting the longest roll of HP5 ever produced!
Looked at a film counter: Still on frame 1 XD
Same as me. Lol. I knew something was wrong as I felt no tension as I advanced and the numbers wasn't going up.
Ohhhh I miss the darkroom so many good memories I always found it relaxing and therapeutic nice images got my eye on a ETRS or a Pentax 645 but I like the interchangeable backs
Thanks for the visit
What did you go for? Currently trying to make the very same decision
I went for the Etrs and I also bought the SQA both fantastic cameras
@@TimG2553 Nice, I think I'm leaning towards the ETRSI! I got a TLR recently so I think that's scratching the square format itch
@@Jacob-nn9in go for it they good value too your enjoy the experience it will slow you down with only 16 shots on 6x4.5 every one counts
Well done!!!
Cheers Brian
The test print evaluations are always very helpful. It's my weak point.
Still my weak point on some negs. If I know it's a good neg I can play around with tests even so much as going down to tiny strips and get there in the end. I was lucky here.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Well, there's hope for me then, lol.
@@igaluitchannel6644 I adopted a different approach. Make a strip with 00 filter as standard. Evaluate, expose second strip with 00 according to evaluation change to 5 filter. Make timed exposures in steps as with normal strip, but overlay on the already exposed 00 strip. Evaluate, and print with split grade printing. Might only work for split grade though
@@dannyb5874 Thanks. It seems like the procedure for getting a split-grade print. I've used it sometimes, but only on difficult prints. But, I see your point. Finding the right highlights and shadows. Lately, I'm making a print at 1 1/2 grade to find right highlights, then increase contrast to get the shadows right. Also, there's another tech- nique shown by Andrea Calabresi in Darkroom Tutorial #01, here on TH-cam. It's very good, but still depends on developing your judgement on highlights and shadows. Multigrade papers by making the possibilities endless make it more confusing for us somewhat.
@@igaluitchannel6644 thanks, I'll check it out. I like split grade prints, gives my pictures a pop. Not a big fan of flat prints. to each their own I guess. Would be boring if all prints looked the same :) I always liked more contrast.
Great intro!
@18:27 for those that are interested 50mm lens multiplied by 0.62 factor equals 31mm.
Cheers Norman. I was nearly right then. Good guess
Great stuff 😎 I bet your always wondered what you got up to in your shed... 🤔. lovely pic of the arches btw
*Missus* 🙄😬😏
Thanks.
i got an aeii finder and speed grip 2 weeks ago and i find the grip small, ive got long fingers and my ring finger get hit by the film advance spinny thing when i wind on, very annoying but a nice camera
jajajajaja, muy graciosa la intro!
That intro!
What? LOL!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah almost spit the food from my mouth, nice no shirt Mr Roger!!
“You dirty git!”
Lol!!
Ha, immediately got the reference at the start.I also follow most of the guys in the exchange and I think I've seen at least one video from the rest. Yeah, I spend way too much time watching TH-cam photography channels. :)
The old ruined manor seems very interesting. I wonder if anybody was killed in the bombing or where they taking shelter somewhere safe?
I don't know. I hope not
Seeing as your on the Isle of Wight, join English Heritage and get regular access to Osborne House, the place where Queen Victoria was very happy and where she eventually died. It's a great location for photography as well.
Have you ever thought of doing a feature/homage on the work of Isle of Wight photographer Julia Margaret Cameron? She was a real pioneer in portraiture photography, one of the first to step away from the formalised style and produce a more artistic vision. ( her pictures look like prog rock album covers ) Dimbola Lodge at Freshwater was her home for many years, and there's a great museum there. It's also a great place for photography. When I last went ( pre pandemic ) they had an exhibition of photographs from the famous Isle of Wight Festival, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Miles Davis, The Who, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan ..... and they say the IOW can be a bit quiet!
When the restrictions lift, you could do features on Cowes Week as well as the scooter rallies.
The photo of the girl on her horse is superb, worthy of a print.
I've shot at Osborne for commissioned work early hours before tourists. That was creepy at 6am!! And dimbola I won an award there years ago for photography which was fun. That place is one on my list for a future video. I did enquire to learn wet plate there but since covid everything went west. But id like to interview the organisers at some point and talk about Margerate Cameron and the work she used to do. I heard she used to sit at her window photographing walkers going past. They have an amazing collection of cameras too. Thanks for the nudge.
Lol. Felt good in my hand. Lots to hold on to.
It's interesting you find Pancro punchy. I'm guessing it's the Rodinal because the Pancro I shoot is all rather flat. Think HP5 bit not quite as flat.
Probably the 3rd time I've shot that film and found it has good contrast. Never seen it flat. Doesn't beat Ferrania p30 though for a kick!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I don't yet develop my own film. So it probably is a developer trait. I don't know what my lab uses.
My bet is HC110 or Ilford ID-11 would render a flatter negative. It Definitely not HP5 flat though. It does have a good bit of contrast, but i find it flatter than most other B&W films i've shot.
Both of my backs on my etrs give that border. One back is of an older design and the other is the same as yours.
Ahh so not unique.
I thought the same thing or that it was a defect. It's unique to the Bronica at least! If you look closely at the inside of the shell, there's a gap between the vertical mask and horizontal rollers that give that little wisp on the corners
Looks perfect to me :)
I tried looking on TNP's channel for his video in this series and gave up after 5 mins... Is there a playlist of all the print share videos from the different channels?
I follow you now my english friend
The shock on your wife’s face was priceless! Was it before or after?😎
brill 😂😂😂
They have subtitle in french thank you
Great Phil. Thanks.
Brain fart, mate...you're gettin' old :D :P Wouldn't mind an etrs, or the Mamiya 645 pro. Very similar cameras.
Brain fart. ha ha, I'm using that one!
I kinda always wanted one but the no bulb mode deterred me
The time switch on the lens is the same. Just use a cap for the lens before and after your exposure and its fine. (as you have to flick the switch on the lens) eliminate shake.
great video, but Now I understand why you made the double exposure mistake, you are not used to this method of doing it, as on the Mamiya you disconnect the back film advance gearing, via a switch, defeating the interlock; Also this lever, on bronica's is the ONLY way to 'test' the camera without film in the back, as interlocks stop shutter cocking until the film is wound up to the next shot,same as the mamiya, so it being 'active' is a normal turn of events for this system- not a special use case ( to double_expose as an effect, or to do a 'joinder picture' in-camera)- as for 35 mm slr's . The standard proceedure for an 'interchangable film cassette' camera is to replace the darkslide, take the magasine off, re-cock the body, then replace the mag, remove the slide and shoot!, for 'SLR's' it is the former, with a 'lever' of some description being the way to do it (other than the obvious advance release [the one used before using the rewind crank]) the MF proceedure is also used in the case of 'accidental' mirror lock-up use, as mostly the return of this switch enevitably fires the shutter to re-cock it.
Hahaha, did same mistake with ETRS and multiple exposure.
Totally threw me at first
Hello and thanks for this. Can you kindly tell me what film feeder you are using to scan your images with your digital camera and which support you are using for the camera please?
Emailed you Benjamin.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Thanks, got it! 🙂
hello I would like to know the name of your light table at 4:57 min that you use for the scan thank you very much very interesting
It's for a ceiling that I got from a home depot store and I cut it into my worktop
Nice prints !
Do you think that the RZ67 with the 6×4.5 back is better than the ETRS or it's about the same quality (lens/print sharpness) ?
I've not put them side by side Ryan but both lenses give good sharp images.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Thanks !
Lovely print! What camera do you use to record when you're under the safelight?
I use Canon 6D DSLR's. Usually at 3200 or 6400 ISO
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss thanks! Great stuff as always, looking forward to your next print!
I miss the smell of fixative on my fingers for two days after printing……… Err actually no I don’t lol 😂
Liar, yeah you do lol
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Yeh ok, maybe a little
i just realised you and Darryl Carey are not in fact the same person-
Shhhhhh.... Don't tell anyone
what type of battery does this camera use??
a 6v 4xLR44 battery. You can order them online.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss thanks
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lol first 5 person to see :D
nah awesome camera love the history of that building too
It's an amazing house to see
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