Pre 1850 U.S. Genealogy Research Strategies
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Learn from professional genealogist Aimee Cross her strategies for researching pre-1850 ancestors. As you may know, census records prior to 1850 only show the head of household. So how do you research your genealogy before 1850 if they don’t show the family members? Aimee has a 7 step process she goes through to help find those ancestors and break down those brick walls.
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0:00 Intro
0:49 Aimee Cross
1:38 Pre-1850 Genealogy Strategies
3:28 Genealogy Timeline
4:23 Vital Records
4:53 Example: Mary Anne Milloway
5:38 Marriage Records
7:41 FamilySearch Records
9:35 Census Evaluation
11:18 Ancestry Search Tips
12:54 Create Family Groups
13:58 Probate Records
16:50 Guardianship Records
18:08 Ancestry Probate Records
18:33 FamilySearch Probate Records
20:12 Private Microfilms
21:52 Probate Research
22:13 How to Research Deeds
23:04 Land Records
23:53 Deed Records
25:51 Spouses in deeds
27:24 Maiden names in deeds
29:56 Dive into Deeds
31:10 Conclusion
32:17 Outro
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When I learned that children could be considered orphans even if their mother were still alive totally changed my research. Thanks for reminding me to go back to the orphan's court to find my pre-1850 ancestors.
Everyone probably knows this, but on family search, go ahead and click on the lock with the key. Sometimes it still works, much to my delight.
You did your Virginia county search and hundreds of records pull. Sadly I must search Pennsylvania in Family Search and Lancaster county pulls two, yes, two records. Without guardianship records it slims my chance of finding my Gr-Gr-Grandfather. I still enjoy your videos and have leaned so much from them.
Speaking of being counted twice on the same census. I found my great grandmother and her first husband living across town. From him and his first wife and three kids. His youngest duaghter was conceived weeks after his legal marriage to my Grandmother. Later documents confirmed he was with both woman but never legally married the mother of his three childern. My grandmother was only stayed married to him for less then a year. All this was in the 1920s.
Great video. Sometimes indexes are not always accurate. I had an instance where we knew the state and county of a marriage, however, it was not listed in the index. By searching page by page, we found the marriage record that was missed in the index process.
Great point! That’s true.
Wow!
This is a great video!! I love videos that show strategies! I am so easily distracted at times that I find myself sort of staggering from from one type of records to another. These types of strategies help me to focus and be less distracted. Thank you both!!
You're welcome! So glad it's helpful for you.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow! Thank you so much for this wonderful video. Aimee is wonderful too! Will be joining her channel :)
Please do!
Last summer, I was researching Jacob Frost, my 1st cousin, 9x removed, who I saw on Ancestry had “lived amongst the Shakers.” I had found his baptism info (along with his twin brother Isaac) from 1785. Then, through googling, I found his signature in a bound volume of land deeds from York County, Maine, with his age and the date of signature of June 1803. Then absolutely nothing until the 1850 census, when he was living in the Shaker community at Alfred, ME. I also saw on the next page of that census record the names of three of Jacob’s sisters, also living in the same community house. I called the librarian at the Shaker Village museum for help, and he was great, pulling together a detailed bio on their father, which explained the land deed book signature (the dad had been the county recorder of deeds when the county seat changed soon after Jacob had signed, so I think that the dad asked his 18 year old son for help consolidating the paperwork at the office before the move, getting deeds bound instead of loose in a drawer).
Unfortunately, that was all the librarian had. I was particularly hoping for when the siblings had joined the sect, but without detailed names on a census, there was no trace of that info. I’m going to go back and see if I can make a guess through the father’s census info, seeing if I can at least get some hint through the tally marks of the different ages in his household and tracking the other siblings’ movements. There were 15 children in total, 11 surviving past age 5 (including four sets of twins!), so I might be able to estimate when they joined.
I used your tip of an Excel page to track the family members on the census, and it worked! I narrowed down the siblings joining the Shakers to between that 1803 signature and the 1810 census, since it looks like they are no longer living at their father’s house. Also, I figured out that the one sister who had joined but left had done so by 1810, because she must have been living at her father’s house by then.
@@kathyastrom1315 Kathy~ I have a whole bunch of Frost's in my tree too, but there were so many that I haven't gotten around to adding all the aunts, uncles & first cousins yet. (I try to limit my tree to 1st cousins & their spouses b'cas it can get sOo long if I start adding 2nd, etc. cousins).. Anyway, I glanced at quite a few of the Frost in my tree & it looks like the majority of mine settled in Kittery, ME. Ah, bummer.. I guess we're not distant cousins.. Or who knows.. maybe we are? 😄 LOL! Take care~~
@@bearpawz_ Yes, Kittery is where my family was from, too!! When I called the librarian at the museum and mentioned the name Frost, his immediate response was “York or Kittery?” which narrowed down the branch of the family we were looking at. (Gotta love long-term locals with that level of knowledge!)
Charles Frost was my 9th great grandfather. His son Captain John Frost has a few famous descendants, including Robert Frost and Lucille Ball.
The last in my line who was born in Maine was George Pepperrell Frost, uncle to the Shaker siblings and my 6th great grandfather who moved to Ulster County, NY to live on his land grant that he received for his Revolutionary War service.
So, Hi, cuz!!!
My husbands great grandfather was discovered under a cabbage I think, because I can't find ANYTHING before his marriage license in 1892.
LOL "under a cabbage."
I've had good luck finding land transactions and estate sales in the old newspapers of the county for my maternal grandma's family. I found the land sales of my 3rd great-grandmother's estate just the other day.
I enjoy reading the probate inventories, too. :)
That is awesome! Good tips!
@@GenealogyTV Thanks!
Always have enjoyed your genealogical clips,not too long but to the point.Today I viewed guest speaker with Ainee Cross 1850 cencus&hints..I took in another wonderful 32 min clip of knowledge from the both of you. Probate , last will,all interesting,refreshing. Thank you.
Miss Donna C. Cameron.
Thanks... that was very kind.
Great video. Especially on the intricacies of who is being enumerated, double wedding record. Also, I confess I am a mindmapper. I have tried to go to a family history center with a research room and they said I had to either go to SLC or a place an hour away from me in another state. It was confusing. Yea for Connie for supporting other channels in the name of spreading the expertise. Thank you.
Thank you! And completely agree about Connie!
Thanks! I learn from others too! Thanks to Aimee for taking the time to visit us here at GTV.
I learned so much, thank you!
You're welcome!
Appreciate this
I just picked up my genealogy again after several years and discovered your channel. You’re doing an amazing job with this content! I especially love that you’re able to mix in videos with other well known genealogists who have a particular specialty (Judy Russell). You’re playing such an important role in making genealogy education more accessible to everyone. You are to be commended. I look forward to more videos!
Thank you so much!
This was fabulous. Thanks for the guidance from Amy.
You are so welcome!
Thank you LeAllyson!
I am really surprised that no one ever suggests searching your matches for people with certain surnames and/or birth places. I have been successful doing this on 2 brick walls. I follow the matches tree back, if they have a tree, and see where I end up. In both cases I was then able to see that I had several other dna matches leading back to siblings of my brick wall person. On one I also had Y DNA so was able to identify a mystery father from 1820. I always search for records also, but I let the dna give me a “tip” on where to start looking when I hit a brick wall with traditional methods. I found two 3x great grand fathers that way. One on my paternal line and one on my maternal line (I had a maternal 1st cousin Y tested.). The further back your mystery person is, the smaller you autosomal match will be. That is why I swear by keeping those distant matches on there for people to use if they want to. Both times the key match’s were under 10cMs because two times in the line the relatives were only “halfs” to us. But happily, the families were all big enough and people had tested. Plus we located someone with old family letters from the 1800s that verified the autosomal dna matches. So, DNA is a great tool in these cases in my opinion. I don’t do tons of segment matching like some people do. I look at the tree and see what I can prove with documents and other matches
great tip!!
I need this because I'm trying to untangle two John George Otts, born about 1745.
Good luck!
Great tips no matter what the time period! Thanks Aimee and Connie
Thanks
Thanks Kathleen!
In regards to my Ancestors. The 1830 census my 3xs great grandfather was head of household. He dead by drowning .In the 1840s was 3xs great grandmother margeret was head. My 2xs great grandfather was the only male. His age5. Also on census 1840 was a female in same age group. Also 2 other female older. I have a strong theory the the young female was a niece of my great grandmother. Because Marked on Margaret's gravestone was Elizabeth songer( margerates maiden name) age at death matched.
Thanks bunches
You're welcome!
my 2GGM Harriet Angel has long been attributed to a specific set of parents, Charles and Martha, but I felt like the ‘proof’ I had of that relationship was shaky at best. But I found the marriage record for Harriet and husband Tim on familysearch (never could find it on ancestry), and it listed her mother as Judith Angel, who was Charles’ sister! An exciting yet frustrating find, as now I have no earthly clue as to who Harriet’s dad is
Thanks for becoming a new channel member. I appreciate it.
Dont forget church record. Quakers kept wonderful records.
I love Quaker records!
Yes!
Very helpful & clear. I need to watch again & take notes. Could use more info on searching voter lists for women since they weren't allowed to vote
Thanks for the feedback Kay.
I have tracked my Harris family line to Albemarle County VA. Lots of Harris' - oh my. But my dead end is in Buck's County, PA. Still looking for birth, marriage, parents, etc. Mystery man born 1853!
Reach out to me via my Channel information - we may be related!
From the Probate Court record I have his date of death, place of death, name of his widow, and names of his living heirs being 3 sons and 5 daughters. I do not know his date or place of birth, nor do I have the names of his parents. Goodspeed has him arriving in what is now Clark County, Arkansas about 1811-1812 and the Clark County Probate Court record has his death date as 6 Sep 1844. That geographical area went through numerous name changes subsequent to the Louisiana Purchase of 1804. He is my GGGG-gf Jacob Wells and my brick wall.
My 4 xs great grandparents was buried on a farm which the own. The grave was only marked with stone with no markings. According to a book entitled blooming grove dunkards.... when did
Wow, she makes me feel like a rocket scientist. 😫
Ai have been with ancestry searching for 12 years and DNA and to say I am lost yes. I am an adoptee
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Do you have a video for guardianship? I have one who's listed on a census as being an orphan and she shares the last name of the family. I believe an older brother was the father, but I can't find any information on him beyond 20 years prior to that record.
I don't have a video specific to that. I'll give it some thought.
I work at a Family History Library and am not sure what exactly you were talking about being able to see at the library vs. Online (timestamp abt. 21.00 to 21.53.
I would like to know what you are referring to in case someone comes in asking about it.
When you are on FamilySearch... and looking at a list of possible records, there are icons on the right side. Some have a camera and some have a camera with a key over it. The ones with the camera with a key over it... the only way to view the image is at a FHL, it is not available for viewing on FamilySearch from home. At 21:51 there is a shot of that page where you can see the icon with the key over the camera.
How do you read a probate record it's usually just a name. And number how do you find a will?
Look for the original source in the source section. It will tell you where they got the information from. Often they are either at the state archives or the county in which the death occurred.
Quakers avoid court cases, so would tgey still be in orphan court or just place the children among their meeting house members?
I have found Quakers in the county courts in NC.
@@GenealogyTV ok. So I'm not wasting time looking for an acestor's parent there. There is another man with the same name whose parents we do know. I haven't found a will or guardianship.
Moms maternal grandfather 1896-1986 was a mason, how do I find his records ?
See if this book online helps. www.google.com/books/edition/The_Bricklayer_Mason_and_Plasterer/AKAsAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=the+bricklayer+%26+mason&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=the%20bricklayer%20%26%20mason&f=false
Wrong! The wife's signature (agreement) to her husband selling property only applied to the homestead, and property she could claim dower on.
Difficult cursive writing . Children today can't read cursive. These will be Egyptian hieroglyphics
So true! I asked two of my kids to get me records when they were at college as they were near a library which had them! They couldn't read the records. It's going to be a needed course for upcoming genealogists!
It's sad they don't teach cursive writing anymore. I worry that the old records will be unreadable by our children.