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Bugera blows everything away in any comparison video i see.
I just got a Trirec yesterday! I was trying to use the modern setting on channels 2 and 3 but was not happy at all. Really high pitched and ear piercing at a high volume no matter how little treble and gain I tried. Your video really helped me get it dialed into the vintage setting of both channels and I love this amp already. I don't feel like I'm missing out on the Mesa DR anymore.
Is it just me or is that Bugera freaking humongous lol
Yes it is, I have a 333xl and it's stupid big it seems
and a svelt 58lbs...yes, almost 60 pounds. I have two and am selling one.
It’s a pizza oven
You should do some blind challenges, i.e. Bugera vs Mesa Boogie etc.
Thanks so much for getting this together so quickly! I absolutely love my Trirec, and its nice to see a good review from someone who knows tone.🤘 Thanks again Kyle.
Not "The Poor Man's Dual Rectifier." The "Frugal Man's Dual Rectifier."
Bugera's a solid amps. I have a V55H, a V22 Combo, and a 6262. All Infiniums. The other night I was switching out pedal boards and inadvertently failed to connect my cabinet to the V55. I had it on standby for 20 minutes before I realized I didn't connect the speaker cabinet. I turned it off the instant I discovered my error and was worried that I'd fried it.
I contacted my Sweetwater agent and he suggested that I power it up (with a cabinet connected of course) and check to see if the tube health status lights were lit which would indicate fried tubes. I followed his instruction and the lights were dark. No damage done and I've been playing ever since.
I'm not so sure a Marshall would have survived the same scenario.
New to your vids... Self-taught player and I've learned more about tone over the past few weeks of watching your videos than I ever did when I started learning better than 20 years ago.
I have this and the 1960 and they both sound fantastic. I've had them both for I want to say 4 years. Bought them new from Amazon same time before they went up a bit in price. I want to say I paid around 800 total. I have had 0 issues however they both get very hot to the touch so I could understand people having issues with them failing.
Didn’t know Matt Damon was into playing metal and testing out shit all day!! 🤣
I love my Tri Rec! Running it through a Peavey XXX 4x12 cab. Great review man.
I own this head! It's a great budget head! Sounds WAYYYYY better than the Mesa imo
Ha, really? Goodness. Have you A/AB’s them?
@@justinTime077 yes and I believe Fluff has
You must be doing something that im not or your amp works better.
@@thephoenixcycle8854 might be your settings. Who knows?
I did the Bugera thing many years ago. Had the 6260, TriRec and 333XL. I think the 333XL was the best amp in their lineup. I’m rocking the PRS MT15 now……BEST AMP EVER!!!!!!!!!
So I think that either the 333 or the 333XL was the Peavey XXX copy, that was the amp they developed with George Lynch but he wouldn't finalize a deal with them since he didn't like their rather questionable labor practices.
For the price, these things are beasts! I have a 333XL combo (pre-infinium), and it screams after a proper bias. The 333LXL is a copy of the JSX. I know there were early issues with reliability and component quality, but those were what seemed like 2 bad production runs. Everything after has been rock-solid and easily better value of price/tone than almost any amp out there. The 333XL, if you bias it properly (factory bias and internal bias switch are junk, manual bias all the way) is absolutely killer. A weird quirk of the 333XL is the 2nd channel tone controls seem to affect the tone on the 3rd channel when the 3rd channel is in-use.
Oh, didn't know this detail with influence of different channels, thanks for letting me know!
The channel volumes for the two crunch channels affect the tone for each other as well. It's a quirk but it has to do with the circuit design that it inherited from Peavey.
@@Crunchifyable2 yeah you're right. I believe the circuit design is the main culprit. To clarify too for those who don't own the amp or haven't played it, the bleed-over of tone controls from the crunch to lead channel aren't huge, they're subtle but noticeable, depending on how you set the crunch controls relative to your controls on the lead channel.
@@SolarWarden88 btw, recently, I've noticed that the effects loop knob affects the channel volume and basically acts as a booster if set up properly. Is it safe to use it in such a way?
@@LexerJason yeah, the amp was designed like that. As long as she's in working condition, rip away! I bought my amp 4 years ago with no floor-pedal and only figured that out when I was able to find one on the secondary market. I think at the time when the amp was released, and even to a degree still today, their primary market was budget oriented players who couldn't afford to drop like $2,500 on a Dual Rectifier or their higher-end Peavey amps. I'm assuming the thought being let's include a clean boost in the amp as a bonus selling feature. Obviously there's no EQ or anything to it, but it works nicely to give you that push over the edger if you need it.
I have one, replace the power tubes and the thing is a beast!!!! The stock bugera power tubes suck. I also changed the rectifier tubes to older US made ones. Change v1 as well, any older well-made 12ax7 tube and bam! The amp has so much complexity and mid range detail after getting rid of some of those bugera tubes.
I know this is old, but this is the first I have read about the power tubes. What did you use? I did pull the Bugera 12AX7’s and put MESA tubes in. Also something about fender type versus Marshall type?? Have had mine since 2018 an it was slightly used then.
You can combine silicon diode and tube rectification on the Roadking depending on if you have 4 or 6 power tubes running. If you're in 50 watt mode then you have the option of silicon or diode.
I wish they still made this amp. To me channel 2 has a more Mark 2c+ sound when you turn on the boost. Great video!
As an owner of this amazing amp, i have to admit how sensitive it is. Using your ear to eq it is a vital skill to master.
Never jelled with this amp for the high gain sounds. Had the Bugera 333XL-212 combo and IMHO it was far superior to the Trirec. It doesn't surprise me that Bugera stopped it while the 333Xl, 6262, etc are still produced. Eventually I got rid of the Trirec, got myself a Katana Head MKII and live happy days (or so I think :p).
Could you please do a 333XL video? Thank you and Happy New Year :)
When I was a kid I wanted a 5150, I could have afforded a line 6 half stack or brugera, but I didnt, i saved literally for years. So long they stopped making the 5150 and switched to the 6505, I still got one. Didnt even have a cab to plug it into for several months. Moral of the story. Tone is worth spending good money on. Even if you can’t play at all for a while. It was worth it. If i had a brugera it would have died by now. I got 13 years out of my stock tubes and they still worked when i finally swapped them
As an early adopter of one of the original Bugera heads, the 6262 to be exact (which is a 6505 copy), I have to say you're wrong.
Now, my head did suffer the issue that affected many, which was a subpar molex pin, made from inferior metal with too much electrical resistance, causing the molex to melt and render it dead. Fortunately, this is easy to fix if you're moderately handy. I just soldered the wires directly to the board and it has been working since. Most notably, I want to point out that I bought this head in 2009 and I did replace the stock tubes after the first month or so, simply because I didn't want to bank on those admittedly cheap components. The tubes set me back less than $100 I'm pretty sure and the fix I did cost me about an hour and maybe 20 cents worth of solder. But these steps to save hundreds of dollars and it clearly destroys your longevity argument? Yup. I'll take Bugera all day long because it's going strong 15 years later. I also have this trirec and it's as amazing as demonstrated here.
I've seen a few of these used around town. It seems to have a balanced tone, like a lot of the old Carvins, somewhere between Mesa and Marshall.
WHAT TOWN YOU LIVIN IN DAMN
Great test with amazing setting explanations, I also like the riffs used to test. I don't know what happen with so many people testing amsp with ultraspeed solos
Great review, Kyle! 3 thumbs up! Right off the bat, I will say that I have never been a fanboy of Mesa Boogie Amps. I have always felt that they were over rated, over priced and pretentious pieces of garbage.... there, I said it (bring on the hate, I don't care...lol). I do however, love the Bugera TriRec Infinium. I already had a Bugera 333XL 2x12 combo (pre Infinium), which I really liked. I started seeing demo's of these TriRec amps, probably 8-9 years ago and was quite impressed with what I was hearing and the price point was a great motivator to give it a try. I bought one about 8 years ago and I must say that I was even more impressed in person. I am a bit of a collector of amps (14 as of now) and have Sovtec's, Marshall's, Peavey's, Crate /Blackheart, Fender's etc and my new favorite boutique amp co. Ceriatone.. All tube amps of course (because there is no substitute for great tube tone). I also collect high end and oddity(Unusual) guitars (49 as of now), mostly Gibson's and Fender's I also have alternate's of those high end guitars and amps, that use to play out in local bands. I do this, because... well... thieves and drunks. Nobody steals a Bugera or an Epiphone or a Squier... but if they do... I'd rather lose a few hundred bucks, than a few thousand bucks. I have been gigging locally with the TriRec for 8 years and it's never let me down and with the Infinium technology, I can change out a bad tube, on the fly, so no down time... or I can change my tone completely, by trying out different tubes and tube combinations (6l6, 5881, EL 34, KT66, KT 88, 6505 etc). It is quite frankly, the best of all worlds, when it comes to tube amps. Just my 3 cents worth.
I totally agree that this amp does not have the lowend. Truth
i had a 6260 That thing was insanely loud!!!!!! left it on the Crunch channel, master quite high gain around 6 with a boost heavy as hell!!!!
thank you , nice review :o) i like the tweakability with the controls and the 3 channels you get out of it . . . would probably use a straight oversize cab tuned to a specific speaker and select various microphones. A little side note; i cannot play through a mesa dual rectifier. Although i can play through this all night and day long.
I loved mine! I wish I still had it. Ran it through a Randall cab with 4 V30s. Great times.
If you were going for Danzig tones....nailed. Just need some mild compression and it's absolutely perfect for rock.
I do have to wonder what it would sound like with a modeler instead of its preamp.
Sounds kind of better than a dual rec
now i want to see what you think of the B52 AT100. for years that was called the poor mans recto
nice video. that guitar sounds great. i agree with pretty much all that you said. i got both amps as well. here is my take on it:
Bugera PROS:
- you can change channels easily on the front panel. the mesa requires you to go in back of the amp to change channel (big design flaw IMO) or use a footswitch. HUGE PRO
- you can actually turn down the bass/low end on the bugera. on the mesa, even with the bass turned all the way down it has too much low end in many situations.
- built in attenuator which lets you turn up the amp a bit in a bedroom situation and hear that tube sag.
- built in volume boost that actually works great. its strictly a volume boost for solos, not an overdrive type boost. think of it as having a boost in the fx loop instead of before the preamp.
- it has built in reverb. and its pretty decent.
- the control knobs are more user friendly on the bugera in my opinion, easier to see your settings at a glance. on the mesa it is not always clear, especially in low light conditions.
- sounds tight without a tube screamer. sounds like it already has a tube screamer built in and permanently on
- takes pedals well on all the channels (the mesa does too)
- extremely well ventilated compared to the mesa. plenty of airflow even with something on top.
- cool LED internal lighting that illuminates the tubes. (purely cosmetic, doesn't affect sound in any way)
- sits better in a mix. controversial opinion i know, but it cuts through more easily by itself. sound guys/FOH wont mess with your sound as much.
- plenty of gain without pedals.
Bugera CONS:
- popping sound when you change channels, the mesa has the same problem, just something i wish they would have improved instead of adding reverb or attenuator.
- does not sound as good at low volume as the mesa without playing around with the varipower + pre + master volume knobs like you mentioned.
- its a lot bigger than the Mesa and slightly heavier, which sucks if you plan on gigging with the amp frequently.
- not capable of the boomy low end that the mesa has even if the bass is maxed. easily fixed with an EQ pedal though
- great clean channel, but the one on the mesa is way better. the one on the mesa sounds much closer to a fender style clean.
- sounds like there is always a tube screamer on, which sucks for those of us that hate tube screamers lol. its why the mids sound a bit different than a stock mesa and comes across as honky depending your settings.
- channel 2 and 3 are the exact same as you mentioned. depending on the user this might actually be a positive and not a bad thing. but limits the tonal possibilities compared to the mesa.
- people look down on it cause its a bugera.
- low resale value.
Bottom Line:
sound wise i wouldnt say its better or worse than the mesa, just different. personally i think its great for 80s and 90s metal, and rock in general. maybe not as good as the Mesa for hardcore, grind, death etc but it ain't bad. you can easily get that metallica sound...if you play metal and are on a budget you cant go wrong. overall its a great sounding amp for the price and better than most amps in the same price range. tons of gain right out the box without pedals. I've heard of people saying its unreliable but i've had mine for many years and have two buddies that also have one and none of us have had any problems. so maybe it was user error? tube amps are less forgiving than solid state amps when it comes to mismatching cabinet impedance. maybe it was a quality control problem and some unlucky people got lemons. like any other product, even if it was only 1 in 100 amps that failed, but the company made thousands, you will end up hearing about the lemons online. If you can find one of these today, and its working fine, you probably wont have any problems with it.
i noticed you have a 5150 too. i prefer my 5150 compared to both the mesa and bugera. if you get a chance try out the new Marshall DSL100HR with the dual master volumes. i just got one a few months ago and it absolutely rips. might actually be my new favorite amp of all time.
Had 2. Absolutely loved the sound, one of my favourites. But they truly did both blow up. And I used them as bedroom amps
I heard that a lot lol, even during non-band volumes they'd still fall apart lol.
@@MaestroJericho only in the EARLIER versions, not the later.
I bought one back in 2010.
A real poor-mans Boogie.
Sounded great until it died, 2 weeks after I bought it.
Turned it on, took it out of standby and nothing.
No sound, no hiss, no nothing.
Been sitting in my closet for 10+ years.
Super informative thank you for explaining about the negative feedback on the Tripple rectifier I didn't know they could do that. maybe it is possible to make an amp with the clean channel sounding like a voxAC30 and the dirty channel sounding like a high-gain chug monster after all! that would be my dream amp.
I preferred my 333XL to my JSX tonally so I don't doubt Bugera can keep up with whatever they copy sound-wise. Always heard it's the reliability that kill em and not the sound.
Great to see this video considering I'm actually looking at one of these right now. Think I might pull the trigger
Sounds badass, how are you liking the Revv G8 after using it for a while now ?
interesting to me this sounds better than the Randall Satan which was a massive disappoint. way cheaper with better tone cant go wrong. would love to see you demo a Marshall Mode 4
Had one, sold it
Wish I still had it though, with the reverb it's really an all in one
Ch2 and ch3 being the same is also really cool
Another great "poor man's Recto" is the Ibanez Thermion TN120H. Absolute monster of a high gain head.
Been searching for one for many moons.
I want one of these so bad.
nowadays ur better off just buying an actual used rectifier lol these things are just as expensive now for some reason their hard to come by and the ones i have seen go for 1k+ its insane
They're one of the worst Amps for Reliability, Bugera's Quality Control is among the Absolute Worse.
Would make more sense to run it through your mesa cab?! Since your comparing it to a Mesa and you have one right there? 🎸🎶🤷♀️
Reppin the Queensway shirt 🤘🏼
I have the Bugera BC-30 2-12 combo (Matchless DC clone) I do old-heavy, not this modern metal, so it works well for me. I'm sad they don't make them anymore, might have been a lawsuit?? Dunno... If I find another for a back-up, I would definitely buy it
The only thing I don't like about my Trirec is the fact that I need an overdrive to get the amount of gain and tightness that I want. Then I have to turn off the boost, then change channels if I want to go clean. Its tedious.
You crack me up man! Literally during the intro I was laughing out loud! 🤣
I have a trirec and a redback and v30 cab also.. im also running a behringer UM300 Ultra metal distortion as a overdrive... on channel 3 of the trirec, modern.. i think it sounds better than a messa duel rectifier
I had 3 in a row, all blew up mightily in a short time!! It had potential, a strange efx loop (reverb before loop, so gate didn't work), nice presence control on all channels though very hard to set right. Not trying a fourth one! I used a 12AU7 (maybe AT7) as V1 as far as I remember, to get the cleans right, I'm not a Metal player.
Just asking but did that tube cause those amps to fail?
@@alexandert696 it shouldn’t have. The 12AU7 is lower gain than the AX7.
good review Kyle. I think I'd go with a Mesa out of the 2
I was always curious about this one. Never see them. On my end; it sounds a little fizzy and hard to play? There are some good tones in there throughout but not sure it would be something I would seek out. I had the 6262 and with a preamp tube swap, eq in the loop, and the most aggressive noise-gating known to man (lol); it sounded pretty darn good.
Almost bought one but got the actual dual rect instead, also heard those old B52s come close. I’ve wanted to try Bugera’s Plexi clone though
Nice queensway shirt hell yeah
Hell yeah. Glad you did this one buddy. \m/
Why on earth would they discontinue this amp?!? ...???
I had one got rid of it... It weighs a ton... Also have the 333XL infinium which I like better definitely keeping that... For whatever reason the Triec was discontinued but the 333 is still being made
Copyright infringement. The reason the Bugera Magician didn't come to fruition
@@rickyturner2742 It's interesting I did not know that while I thought all of their amps were copies of other amps also
@@gravelrocks5588 Bugera were filed with a few lawsuits over some of there amps, i think Peavey filed one on the 6260/6262, not 100%, but Mesa filed one for the Magician. It's very close looking to the Mark 5, even down to the EQ sliders.
It's a pity, there was loads of hype about it, and even were at N.A.M.M with it, can't remember the year again but it was meant to be an October release. then suddenly it vanished.
One of the Bugera's i was looking forward too
Your shirt game is quite strong once again, Baltimore HC represent!!
I've been thinking in buying one of those or the 333XL infinium. But the second hand market in Spain it's not very affordable nor diverse, assortment.
Hey Kyle ! If you still have both bugeras, could you do a shootout between the trirec and the 6262 ? 🤘😖
Maybe throw in the 333xl if it’s still around too !
It sounds quite good, definitely usable tones. However the shell is huge, kinda bugs me. Needs to be a couple inches shorter. I know, just cosmetic.
I wonder how you'd feel about the Randall Vmax head, Sammy Duet's and Scott Ian's old touring head of choice
Hey guys, I'm getting a 240v Trirec. It was the only one I could find..I'm in the US. It needs to be converted to 120v.. Can this amp be converted internally, and if not what power converter do you recommend?
You'd have to take it to a the to change the tap on the transformer, if it even has a 120v tap
I have a Tri Rec and i am not that pleases with. It just isn't what l thought it would be. BteWhen I first heard about it this thing was a mythological brute of an amp, And I thought this is what I want, a badass amp at a good price. So, I struggle finding good tone with it because when I adjust, for instance the bass knob It changes the tone not really adding or subtracting bass and that goes with all the knobs. It completely changes tone. So for me it's been really hard getting the sound I want. And with a different channels, the volume gets really wonky. For instance channel 1s clean mode is the thickest, most bass driven and ultimately sounds the best. I wish channel 3's modern tone was as heavy and as thick as channel ones clean mode. The volume outputs are super weird. What I've been doing for the last year is just using it for a power amp It works really well for that. Btw, my boost option works pretty good. I would sell it but I tried re-tolexing the thing and did just an, uh..ok job l guess. If anybody's interested in purchasing it hit me up and I'll take some photos
Ayyyyy!!! Finally Rectifier for me! Haha
I had one for over 5 years, it probably spent half that time in the repair shop. I ended up trading 2 trirecs for a mesa dual rec and am very glad I did.
I do miss the trirec!
It sounds like a beast 🤘
I bought the original 6260 and 333XL heads right when they came out. They sounded good enough at the time.. They just weren't built to last. By the time the Trirec came out, their reputation was already ruined.
Pretty much, It seems they've fixed the reliability issues but their rep still carries on
@@belligerentamateurKyle!
Yeah. They came out with the "Infinium" series.. Also, the guys that designed the amps ended up working with Randall on their RT series amps...with the same outcome. (BTW, if you ever find another Satan, please lemme know.. I'm still looking.)
Where'd you get that? Throught they got discontinued
They sell things used bro! Lol
@@belligerentamateur I legit couldn't find a used one when I was looking for a metal tube amp anywhere! Ended up with a little Revv instead.
I'm pretty happy with that but If I see a deal down the road I might still get one I really dig the tones on these, but g20 does more of what I need an amp for these days than any 100 watt behemoth.
@@someoneyoudontknow3257 plus, the Revv will be way more reliable and have much better customer services!
This is the best sounding amp I have ever had. I bought 3 Bugeras, 2 died within 2 years, one still works. So bugera succs. I say, fuck Burgera!
As someone who is very easy on amps, I had so many issues with this amp I got rid of it, loved how it sounded but super unreliable.
Why?
I thought it sounded pretty damn good!
Roadking and Roadster can be blended on the rectifier settings
I've wanted one of these for awhile but I never see them for sale
Same man, jumped on this the second he put it up for sale.
This Bugera does not sound same as Mesa. I owned the Bugera and 3 Mesas, and after constant fiddling with knobs, different speakers/cabs, trying to make it sound great, I sold it. The Bugera always sounded generic, generic tonestack, generic gain, etc. Yes, I tried different tubes, biasing, pre and power amp tubes. Generic sound. I much prefer my Peavey Bandit to it. I wouldn't want the Bugera even if it was $100. My Peavey ate it alive. Bandit has great voicing, Fender cleans, Marshall gain hot rodded! No need to fiddle with knobs trying to get a good tone, its always there.
Can't ever find these for sale anymore
I don't think this amp is available anymore. :(
Sounds damn good 🤘
Queensway! 👍
He is obviously tone-deaf and can't seem to dial in his ears. The bagheera is f****** amazing
There's a video on TH-cam Bugera or a gear store put out and the guy they have demoing the amp straight has the Molly sweats lol
so much technical issues with this amp that they had to discontinue it, the last batch was sold as B stock for damn cheap. if you are looking for a great recto clone just look into the fame bulldozer!
So basically a Mesa Triple Crown is what I got out of it.
No, Dual Recitifer. It's basically a direct rip of that amp.
i hear tri crown too
@@solidsnakec20 I own a triple crown and no, this is definitely not a triple crown rip off
@@chrisleguen2813 maybe to your ears. i hear a triple crown ripoff.
Never got a chance to try this amp in person. Now I don't need to. Thanks Kyle.
To buy or not to buy 🤭
Always buy... If needed sell later :)
@@barryprosser1370 🤣🤣🍻done
@@NinecoreNeil good man \m/
Im sorry bugeras have a strange sound on the tail end when the sound is supposed to round off its sloppy. Ive played one and it theyre just awkward
The fucking Queensway tee. My dude.
Do you think this would be good with a Meatzaballa cab? 🤣🤣🤣
I usually dig his reviews but I believe he already discounted this Amp before he gave it a chance
They are noisy as hell and Suck for Lead. I've tried several that Friends had & they All got Rid of them Quick. Nothing like a Dual Rec, I've owned all versions including the original that had
An A/C Cable coming from the Chassis
not removable. Got 3:Current Multi Watt. Bugera have always Sucked both tonally and for Reliability. Their
Q. C. SUX.
Peavey Sux and always have.
not my favorite amp but a good review.
This doesn’t really sound like a recto to me
Except Bugera no longer makes the "Trirec Amp!
Correct, discontinued.
Sounds pretty dark
You remind me of a young Matt Damon.
greenbacks all day
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻🤘🏻
The reason they were discontinued was because so many of them were crapping out as a result of the plastic wiring clips getting too hot and over time (sometimes a very short time) causing the amp to fail. Some people who knew this and knew how to safely work on tubes amps would simply remove the clip plugs and solder the wires directly to the PCB, which would successfully fix the problem. This design flaw was the main reason Bugera got such a bad rep, which led to them going out of business. It's too bad they didn't address this problem because their amps were actually pretty amazing for the price. The 333xl was a clone of a Peavey JSX, the 1960 was a clone of a Marshall 1959 Super Lead Plexi, the 1990 was a clone of a Marshall JCM900 and the 6262 was a clone of a Peavey 6505. PS - another pretty good sounding poor man's Dual Rec was the B-52 AT100 and the B-52 Stealth ST100A amps, which can still often be found on the used market for anywhere from about $200 - $350 bucks.
Not at all. The real reason they were discontinued was due to copyright infringement by Mesa. All brought on by the Bugera Magician being to close to the Mesa Mark series. Nothing to do with "a design flaw".
They only got a bad rep because of Doofus's on forums that don't know crap, and joining the Bandwagon. I have 4 Bugera's and none have crapped out, including a 2008 Pre Infinium 6260 that was used by a Local band touring the UK.
@@rickyturner2742 That's only a small part of the reason for the Trirec being discontinued. The main reason was the Trirec specifically had far more failures then any of the other models of Bugera amps. I've had 4 or 5 of these sent to the custom guitar and amp repair shop I worked at in Los Angeles and it was always the same problem with the clip from the PT melting and causing the amp to fail. Bugera had very poor quality control and customer service. Because they were manufactured in China and their HQ was out of the country, attempting to sue them is like beating a dead horse and only the contracted dealers here in the U.S. can legally face any liability. The Chinese could actually legally build an exact copy of a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier and even use their name and put "made in USA" on it and as long as it's purchased from a dealer outside of the U.S.., there's not a damn thing Mesa could do about it. Only dealers inside of the U.S. can be legally sued for selling such products. You can actually purchase counterfeit Fulltone OCD clones or fake Jackson and Gibson guitars that are sometimes almost indistinguishable from the real ones from online dealers in China for about $30 to $200 bucks and they will ship them here to the U.S. and neither Fulltone, Fender or Gibson can do anything to stop them. You can thank the greedy U.S. government and their close ties with the CCP for that. PS - I owned the first generations of the 333xl, the 1990 and the 1960. The 333xl went south about 2 years after I bought it after the PT clip melted and took out the power section. Trash. The 1990 began generating a lot of heat, so I opened it up and saw the same issue occuring thar fried the 333xl. I fixed it and sold it. I decided to then hardwire the PT on the 1960 just in case and it worked flawlessly for about 10 years before I finally decided to sell it and replace it with a Marshall Origin.
Mezzabarba cabs do not have uk English v30s they have Chinese ones. The only company celestion sells English v30s to are Mesa and some marshal special edition cabs. You can tell very easily by checking the speakers. If they don’t say “made in Ipswich England” than its Chinese. I have looked up mezzabarbas and even the website doesn’t say they are English. Also I’ve looked at pictures of them and they indeed do not say “made in Ipswich England” still great speakers tho. If they are English ones someone changed them out.
Not true, message Mezzabarba and find out for yourself. I've talked extensively with Pierangelo and he's proven his stock. On top of that, I placed these UK vintage 30's in the cab myself, pulled directly from a mesa boogie stiletto combo amp. They did not come stock.
@@belligerentamateur I just saw there cabs. They aren’t English. Why they may have told you that I’m not sure. Mesa has an exclusive contract. Unless they get them second hand somehow.
I told you. Contact Pierangelo. He does not advertise them as UK. I'm not saying they all have UK V30's, but he specifically told me he had stock of them when I last spoke to him about building me a cab. This is all a moot point because the v30's in the cab in this video are speakers that i placed in it myself, and we're not stock. So YES the v30's in this cab are UK.
@@belligerentamateur I literally said if they were English than someone swapped them out. The only way to get English v30s is to buy them directly from Mesa. Or second hand. The cabs I saw don’t have English v30s which was my point. My point was not that YOUR cab doesn’t have English v30s which I stated they could if someone swapped them out. However the stock ones where not English.
@@TheLeadG we can go back and forth all day, but until you contact Pierangelo directly this whole argument is pointless. Have a good one!
It doesn't feel as pleasant... it's like a cat's tongue. A recto is like munchin ctrispies.
it got real ugly when the varipower was turned down.
I have one of these for sale if anyone's interested. It's bad ass and I don't want to sell but I'm moving out of the country and can't take it. Comment if you want it!