Honestly the way to Scale Lady/Mary comes down to her Skill/ experience and weapons. Her feats are small and conceptually you can argue her placement based on these things I'll list. 1.She teams up with Dante and has Solo missions because of the Anime/DMC4 canonically They all went to Fortuna in DMC 4 and fought mid to low tier demons and even in their intro. 2. Her and Trish Casually fight those demons. Honestly how Strong her Weapons are and her skills (even in DMC 3) we never see her struggle with Basic Demons in any game. 3. Even the creators know she can't hang with Dante and Vergil even if they are weak (since their 3 way fight in DMC 3 was supposed to be longer but was cut short for logical reasons) 4. In between DMC 4- 5 Nico was already working with Lady while as a Gun smith and we know how smart she is And how BROKEN her weapons are and she only got better because of DMC 5. 5. We even see Dante use her new Rocket launcher in the game and what it can do and if you pair it up with the original (now I would argue the double Rocket launcher effect is not purely an Easter egg if you find both of them) so with what we know and see what her weapons can do in good hands (Dante's) Her fire power can rival the best of them. Now if you wanna say her on her own I can understand C tier. But with the potential her weapons have and what we SEE THEM DO we know what they are capable of especially in the Right hands (Again Dante) I would argue DMC 5 Lady would scale like this. DMC 3 Bottom of C tier. DMC Anime/4 B tier most likely bottom of B or above Nero because of Pure skill and experience since he didn't have his Devil trigger/Yamato. DMC 5 probably top of B tier because of how insane her Fire power actually gets and she skill wise is just so much better. So much so Dante still acknowledged her strength and skill and in DMC 4 when we play her we can also see she Picked up skills from Dante (gun slinger stances and Gun moves) in the DMC Mobile game she is in there and part of the story so feat wise we might get more of her there soon as well. (Sorry this was super long) it's just fun talking about Lady and what her potential truly is even if we don't always see it.
doesn't the description of sin devil trigger dante in dmc5 say that he might be stronger than his father sparda, if that description isnt just bs that should put sparda up there with sdt dante and vergil right?
@@GiorgiKurasbediani-p2v sparda locked his power in timeneegru (how tf you spell that) and they defeated Arkham who had said power so it's not far fetch that at the very least Dante was atleast half as strong as sparda
Firstly congratulations on ur 10k subs❤❤. Secondly i have some gripes with this. Firstly anime dante is after dmc 1 and ya abigail clashed swords with dante but the dmc anime takes place 1 year or so after dmc 1 while dante is in his mid 30s in dmc 2 so personally i think argosax should be higher than Abigail and interchangeable with mundus and devil sword Sparda dante. Again i cant see the saviour being above the demon kings in any way, aure hes durable but i cant see him beating the demon kings. I wouldve said hes below nightmare but now i remember Devil sword sparda sanctus is controlling it so I'd say its above Devil sword sparda sanctus. Dmc 4 trish shouldve been placed a bit higher, i think above beginning of dmc 1 dante, possibly above dmc 4 vergil also and dmc 5 trish above dmc 4 trish. I cant see dmc 5/4 lady beating berial so I'd think them above bael and echnida is about alright. Also i dont think beginning of dmc 5 Vergil should be placed that higher, i think above Devil sword sparda sanctus. Sure he may have ripped neros arm but nero was caught off guard. Aside this i think the scaling is prrety solid, Hoped Pluto wouldve been added in this list Edit: so I just rethink what I've said and the saviour was being powered by Devil sword sparda and Nero, that alone would be enough to place it above mundus and argosax. I still don't think it can beat them tho
You're underestimating Trish, DMC4Trish with the sword of Sparda is at least as powerful as DMC3 Vergil (And maybe she's even more powerful than nelo Angelo)
Argument could be made that Vergil lost at the end of DMC3 because he was using a weapon he had considerably less experience in (Force Edge) which is basically in the weapon field as Rebellion. Can also be explained in character since Vergil clings to Sparda's power so he'd probably use Force Edge more
Honestly, Base Dante has already surprassed Sparda In DMC anime, Aligi (This was the name I guess) states that his power is on par with Mundus, someone Sparda couldn't kill, so had to seal away And Dante just destroyed him at base form
Congrats on 10K Digital, been watchin you for months and keep up the good work. Also What about Dantes Shin Majin form from dmc 2? did your forget or you just didn't want to add them.
Im a little late but congrats on 10 k. Also people get confused on spardas scaling. But he is not even close to dante, vergil and nero. Sparda was diffinitivley surpassed by Dante in dmc 2. As sparda was stated to need help from lucias tribe to seal argosax. Dante at the end of the game proceeded to perception blitz argosax and one shot him in base. Needless to say, the DMC 5 descendants of sparda out scale that feat massively. No question sparda is no where near thier lvl. Im open to discuss this further if you disagree. Have a blessed day
Worth noting that Sparda sealed away Argosax and Dante just killed him and stayed in hell. Maybe it'd be harder for Sparda to get out of hell than sealing it, him being a demon? Idk, I'm not super hooked up on the lore but it just doesn't fit right to me with Rebellion + Sparda + Yamato being his power
Just a reminder, Sparda needed help from the Protectors because he sealed away most of his power after he sealed away the tower in dmc3. He was substantially weaker than he was in his prime.
@@xenowarrior282 my main point I was getting at. Is that Dante dealing with argosax with ease in base. Should be more impressive than the way sparda was implied to deal with him, which is with some level of difficulty and needing assistance. Also it is likely that sparda encountered argosax before he met eva, since the lore states that sparda was protecting the human world for centuries before he met his wife. So he was most likely in his prime at the time he fought argosax. This making dantes feat that much more impressive.
@@tjmak7138 I feel like you didn't actually read my comment. I'm trying to say your point is invalid. You can't use Sparda needing help against Argosax as an argument because he quite literally sealed most of his power away when he sealed Temen Ni Gru. The Sparda that fought Argosax 400 years ago is no where near his prime. Literally a fraction of a fraction of his full power. I suggest watching Zimatorn's Sparda reference video for a full analysis on where Sparda actually scales.
Hey digital I have question for you; do you think that Vergil absorbed the devil bringers power. I ask this because it was never stated he did( if it does then I missed that) and then as Urizen uses the Yamato as a shield which when it is in that shield like state it has a similar color pattern to the devil bringer. It would also explain why Urizen is so strong ( with him feeding the tree, him getting stronger after the Nelo fights). If that the case it would parallel him with his brother even more. With Dante absorbing the rebellion, the tree, and devil sword Sparada. Then Vergil absorbing the Yamato, his son’s arm, the fruit, and his human half.
no offence, but you're saying that beginning of dmc5 nero is more powerful than sparda because he was angry and destroyed urizens crystal considering sparda had so many more feats
I get that. But urizen at that point would literally embarrass sparda even at his peak. Considering that sparda at his apex needed assistance with argosax who is moondus lvl if not stronger. The same argosax who got blitzed and one shot but base dmc2 Dante. Who is weaker than his dmc 5 self. Dmc 5 Dante in the first act of the game got molested by urizen. And could not even dent his crystal. So yes Nero doing that alone puts him a good bit above sparda. Hell sparda was surpassed by Dante in dmc 2 so he was arguably stronger than sparda at the end of dmc 4.
ig but still sparda had the power of all 3 of the swords that were given to dante and vergil; rebellion, sword of sparda and yamato. and no i dont think DSD surpasses spardas power. Also, sparda was able to seal away mundus and all of his legions into the underworld forever (until vergil and arkham resurrected the teme-nigru) by himself, DMC1 dante couldn't even seal mundus away by himself and needed trish to give him power. So i don't trust that any of the dmc5 cast come close to sparda, elt alone nero. yes sparda needed help to defeat argosax because he was weakened after doing the whole sealing away business, like when vergil lost to mundus in dmc3 to become nelo angelo.
heres a video by the same guy who made this tierlist, digitalT th-cam.com/video/Cp1ayYnnN0Y/w-d-xo.html in the first 10 seconds he says that Sparda is the most powerful demon from the underworld which would then also mean the strongest character from DMC at all considering that pure humans are not strong at all
@@thesoldiertf2774 fair point but, I would argue that going off the novels. Dante defeated void. Moondus who is a more powerful version of the one he fought in dmc 1. And beat him without the amps he had in the first game. If we up scale from that and use the statement that Dante grows more powerful with age. On top of the feats that would upscale Dante even further that that. I think it is safe to say they surpassed sparda. Also Nero isn't pure human in dmc 5. He lost a lot of his power when he lost his arm but. Demonic blood would still be in him. Considering he is still vergils son. Last note. We don't have an an exact time frame of when sparda encountered argosax, so it could be reasonable to say that he still had all his weapons when he sealed him. So Dante one shoting. Argosax who is stated to rival moondus is a valid case
@@thesoldiertf2774 being the strongest demon from the underworld doesn’t include those that aren’t from the underworld (Nero, Dante, Vergil, or Urizen). Just wanted to point out that is why I specifically said it the way I did.
DigitalT I have a question to just like sort of see where you stand on this but who would you say is stronger Demon Beowulf or Demon Balrog. Balrog is never explicitly shown but just by the fact that he is stronger than Berial. Who would you say is stronger?
@@drako.g oh, I misread it. It’s hard to say between the two of them, but since Beowulf is noted to have immeasurable power as one of the gatekeepers of the tower in DMC3 I would give him the edge over Balrog.
i see in the list that nero dmc5 Stronger than sparda who beats all boss to get to Mundus and beat him . thats strange ) . i well say that Sparda is the strongest
@@emastermet609 "Negative" my ahh. Amount of evidence for DMC2/pre DMC2 Dante being stringer than Sparda is much more numerous than a single Nico statement lol
So you obviously know more about DMC than I will, so I won’t argue my little nitpicks. But why in the world do you think Nelo Angelo is stronger than Nelo Angelo/Vergil in the final fight? That makes no sense gameplay wise, narrative wise, or lore wise? You don’t get weaker when you decide to have a last stand and put everything on the line.
Its a good list the only things I have a problem with is no V and lady and trish is to low since dante hype them up in the beginning of the game also base devil arm nero in 4 like is it stated that nero even used the yamamoto against credo or even used his dt amp against sanctus and the savior
Dante hyping them up doesn't mean anything. I'm paraphrasing here, but he says no one but him and Vergil can beat them, which is blatantly false. Lady has never fought a boss level demon. Her best feat is killing demons in their true form pretty easily when the Hellgate opened in dmc4. Trish has hardly anything. Trinity of Fates says she was created to be more in the league of the Marionettes in terms of power since her only purpose was to be a lure for Dante. She gets a big boost due to getting a human heart, but there's nothing to put her any higher than she is in the tier list. Nero uses the Yamato against Credo and Sanctus in the novel. He uses Maximum Bet to finish off Credo and uses Yamato exclusively against Sanctus since Red Queen and Blue Rose were badly damaged.
I respect your opinions but this is pretty inaccurate,I would have changed a lot of placements,like I would put dmc 5 Nero with his arm above dmc 4 dt Dante cause in deadly fortune it was stated that Nero COULD be stronger than Dante at that time,and dmc 5 Nero with his arm is leagues above dmc 4 end of the game Nero which Dante states to might be stronger than him.Then another big thing is the placement of Chen,Mundus,void Mundus,Argosax ,Abigail and the savior. Let me explain: Argosax was stated to transcend everything at the time of dmc 2 that would mean that he’s above Chen Mundus void Mundus Abigail savior cause they all were dead at the time of Argosax besides the savior.Then Sparda also should be above all of them including Argosax cause he literally defeats and even seals him with help in his very weakened form.Chen should be above the savior what you did right,then the savior should be above void Mundus cause Dante had a few problems with the savior in dmc 4,where Dante in the dmc 2 novel in base neg diffed void Mundus and even played with him,and remember this dmc 2 novel Dante is WAYYY weaker than dmc 4 base Dante that fought against the savior.Then I would put argosax‘s chaos form above Mundus cause in this form Mundus couldn’t defeated Argosax even tho he ate the Qliphoth fruit.After that would be dmc1 Sparda dt Dante,and then dmc 1 base Dante,and behind him corrupted Vergil which is above Mundus‘ true form which I agree with you.After Mundus‘ true form would be his normal form in dmc 1 with his wings where he already ate the fruit.After him would be Pluto,and behind Pluto would be Mundus before the Qliphoth fruit cause Mundus‘ could not defeat Pluto alone.Then there would be Nelo Angelo,then Nightmare,and V tied.After that beastheads.The reason why beastheads are under nightmare is cause Mundus‘ stated that he would never create something stronger than him,and nightmare was a treat to Mundus and the beastheads weren’t.That are the few things that i would change tbh but it’s you’re opinion so RESPECT. (Btw here’s my list that i did with professional dmc scalers): SDT Dante&SDT Vergil>DMC.5 DT Dante&DMC.5 DT Vergil>Doppelganger Vergil>DMC.5 Base Dante&DMC.5 Base Vergil>DT Nero>DMC.5 Nero vs Vergil last fight>Urizen standing+Qliphoth Fruit>Urizen Standing>Urizen Sitting>DMC.5 Nero 2nd fight vs Urizen>DMC.5 Start of Game Dante+Sparda Sword amp>DMC.5 Start of Game Dante>DMC.5 VoV Dante>DMC.5 BTN Dante>DMC.5 Nero Start of Game+Devil Bringer>DMC.5 Nero without Devil Bringer>DMC.4 Deadly Fortune Nero>DMC.4 DT Dante>DMC.4 Dreadnaught Form Dante>DMC.4 Deadly Fortune Dante>DMC.4 Base Dante>DMC.4 DT Nero>DMC.4 Base Nero>DMC.2 Majin DT Dante>DMC.2 DT Dante>DMC.2 Base Dante>DMC.2 Novel Dante>DMC Anime Dante>Prime Sparda>Human Form Sparda>Argosax The Despair Embodied>Chen The Cannibal>The False Savior>The Savior>Void Mundus>Argosax The Chaos>DMC.1 Sparda DT Dante>DMC.1 Alastor&Ifrit DT Dante>DMC.1 Base Dante>Corrupted Vergil>Mundus True Form>Mundus Post Qliphoth Fruit>Pluto>Mundus Pre Qliphoth Fruit>Nelo Angelo>DMC.5&1 Nightmare&V+Familiars>Beastheads>DT Lucia>Base Lucia>Mutated Arius>Possessed Arius>Furiataurus>Abigail>Bolverk>Base Arius>King Cerberus>Malphas>Elder Geryon Knight>Cavaliere Angelo>Mirragio Angelo>Balrog>True Form Modeus>Base Modeus>True Form Baul>Base Baul>Mutated Arkham>Sanctus Diabolica>DMC.5 Trish>DMC.4 Trish&Gloria>DMC.2 Trish>DMC.2 Novel Trish>DMC Anime Trish>DMC.1 Trish>PoC DT Dante>PoC Base Dante>DMC.3 DT Dante all forms>DMC.3 Post DT Dante>DMC.3 DT Vergil>DMC.3 Base Vergil>DMC.3 Pre DT Dante>Avatar Mundus>Doppelganger>DMC.3 Manga Vergil>DMC.3 Manga Dante>DMC.4 DT Vergil>DMC.4 Base Vergil>Beowulf>Cerberus>DMC.1 Novel Dante>Gilver The list goes on to btw ALL dmc characters and all dmc enemies,we ranked them all💀 If you want I can send you the whole list in the comments
Nightmare is A Tier even mundus consider it troublesome makes considering it was made from Vergil’s nightmares this is all shown in the manga or novel can’t remember and argosax lost to a heavily weakened Sparda since his fight with mundus and still lost sparda is a monsters and you downplaying devil opening dmc5 DB Nero a few years has past since dmc4/dmc4 deadly fortune it’s only natural he got stronger it’s like your forgetting Dante out right said nero might be stronger than him in dmc4 i would put dmc 5 db Nero above dmc2 base Dante and without i doubt awakened DT Nero is above the alpha & omega base vergil the Nero downplay is ridiculous and canonical it possible prime sparda could still be the strongest
Alpha and Omega Vergil had two fights with Dante, and had just triggered his Sin Devil Trigger the first time ever, which we have seen multiple times takes a ton out of you. Alpha and Omega (healthy) crushes Devil Nero. If anything I feel he slightly overrated Nero a couple times. There is absolutely no way that no arm Nero beats the Savior.
Unrelated but I’ve always felt Dan the and Vergil where equals it was just hard to say so cuz Yamato always just felt like a wayyyy better weapon then the rebellion
But the rebellion can make its wielder stronger because it can absorb powers. Devil Sword Dante = Yamato in power as we saw in post credits scene when they fought. After dmc 5 I feel like the rebellion is more powerful than the yamato now that Dante has used it to its fullest.
Dante slapped Argosax but canonically, Despair Embodied made Dante go into his Majin Form
Congrats Digital, well deserved you honestly deserve way more subs. You are REALLY REALLY underrated, keep up the great content!
Thanks for the compliments! Can’t wait to show what I got in the works for next year
Honestly the way to Scale Lady/Mary comes down to her Skill/ experience and weapons. Her feats are small and conceptually you can argue her placement based on these things I'll list.
1.She teams up with Dante and has Solo missions because of the Anime/DMC4 canonically They all went to Fortuna in DMC 4 and fought mid to low tier demons and even in their intro.
2. Her and Trish Casually fight those demons. Honestly how Strong her Weapons are and her skills (even in DMC 3) we never see her struggle with Basic Demons in any game.
3. Even the creators know she can't hang with Dante and Vergil even if they are weak (since their 3 way fight in DMC 3 was supposed to be longer but was cut short for logical reasons)
4. In between DMC 4- 5 Nico was already working with Lady while as a Gun smith and we know how smart she is And how BROKEN her weapons are and she only got better because of DMC 5.
5. We even see Dante use her new Rocket launcher in the game and what it can do and if you pair it up with the original (now I would argue the double Rocket launcher effect is not purely an Easter egg if you find both of them) so with what we know and see what her weapons can do in good hands (Dante's) Her fire power can rival the best of them.
Now if you wanna say her on her own I can understand C tier. But with the potential her weapons have and what we SEE THEM DO we know what they are capable of especially in the Right hands (Again Dante)
I would argue DMC 5 Lady would scale like this.
DMC 3 Bottom of C tier.
DMC Anime/4 B tier most likely bottom of B or above Nero because of Pure skill and experience since he didn't have his Devil trigger/Yamato.
DMC 5 probably top of B tier because of how insane her Fire power actually gets and she skill wise is just so much better.
So much so Dante still acknowledged her strength and skill and in DMC 4 when we play her we can also see she Picked up skills from Dante (gun slinger stances and Gun moves)
in the DMC Mobile game she is in there and part of the story so feat wise we might get more of her there soon as well.
(Sorry this was super long) it's just fun talking about Lady and what her potential truly is even if we don't always see it.
doesn't the description of sin devil trigger dante in dmc5 say that he might be stronger than his father sparda, if that description isnt just bs that should put sparda up there with sdt dante and vergil right?
In DMC 3 it said a very similar thing but idk really
Dante and Vergil surpassed Sparda long ago
@@mr.babylegs537when was it said same thing in dmc3?
@@k21skyrecklessambition47when and why?
@@GiorgiKurasbediani-p2v sparda locked his power in timeneegru (how tf you spell that) and they defeated Arkham who had said power so it's not far fetch that at the very least Dante was atleast half as strong as sparda
Firstly congratulations on ur 10k subs❤❤.
Secondly i have some gripes with this.
Firstly anime dante is after dmc 1 and ya abigail clashed swords with dante but the dmc anime takes place 1 year or so after dmc 1 while dante is in his mid 30s in dmc 2 so personally i think argosax should be higher than Abigail and interchangeable with mundus and devil sword Sparda dante.
Again i cant see the saviour being above the demon kings in any way, aure hes durable but i cant see him beating the demon kings.
I wouldve said hes below nightmare but now i remember Devil sword sparda sanctus is controlling it so I'd say its above Devil sword sparda sanctus.
Dmc 4 trish shouldve been placed a bit higher, i think above beginning of dmc 1 dante, possibly above dmc 4 vergil also and dmc 5 trish above dmc 4 trish.
I cant see dmc 5/4 lady beating berial so I'd think them above bael and echnida is about alright.
Also i dont think beginning of dmc 5 Vergil should be placed that higher, i think above Devil sword sparda sanctus.
Sure he may have ripped neros arm but nero was caught off guard.
Aside this i think the scaling is prrety solid, Hoped Pluto wouldve been added in this list
Edit: so I just rethink what I've said and the saviour was being powered by Devil sword sparda and Nero, that alone would be enough to place it above mundus and argosax.
I still don't think it can beat them tho
Damn bro calm down
You're underestimating Trish,
DMC4Trish with the sword of Sparda is at least as powerful as DMC3 Vergil
(And maybe she's even more powerful than nelo Angelo)
Congratulations on 10k man keep it up
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Congratulations on 10k subs DigitalT. Love your content and hope ur channel will grow with a better pace.❤🎉
Thank you very much! I’m just happy there is a spot on the internet that found me and supports what I am doing!
Happy 10k bro
This was an agreeable list, you’ve cooked
Argument could be made that Vergil lost at the end of DMC3 because he was using a weapon he had considerably less experience in (Force Edge) which is basically in the weapon field as Rebellion. Can also be explained in character since Vergil clings to Sparda's power so he'd probably use Force Edge more
Honestly, Base Dante has already surprassed Sparda
In DMC anime, Aligi (This was the name I guess) states that his power is on par with Mundus, someone Sparda couldn't kill, so had to seal away
And Dante just destroyed him at base form
Sparda did kill him. It was stated in the 3142 Graphic Arts, he just came back to life....only for Dante to kill him again.
From what I remember sparda sealed mundus cause killing him would destroy the demon realm, which sparda really cared about.
Congrats on 10K Digital, been watchin you for months and keep up the good work. Also What about Dantes Shin Majin form from dmc 2? did your forget or you just didn't want to add them.
I will admit I completely forgot about it, but it would just go right above DMC2 Dante.
2.12 yeah, because it's just "vergil" but in reverse-syllable order
Extra:
DMC 6 Nero: SSSS
Im a little late but congrats on 10 k.
Also people get confused on spardas scaling. But he is not even close to dante, vergil and nero. Sparda was diffinitivley surpassed by Dante in dmc 2. As sparda was stated to need help from lucias tribe to seal argosax. Dante at the end of the game proceeded to perception blitz argosax and one shot him in base. Needless to say, the DMC 5 descendants of sparda out scale that feat massively. No question sparda is no where near thier lvl. Im open to discuss this further if you disagree. Have a blessed day
Worth noting that Sparda sealed away Argosax and Dante just killed him and stayed in hell. Maybe it'd be harder for Sparda to get out of hell than sealing it, him being a demon? Idk, I'm not super hooked up on the lore but it just doesn't fit right to me with Rebellion + Sparda + Yamato being his power
Just a reminder, Sparda needed help from the Protectors because he sealed away most of his power after he sealed away the tower in dmc3. He was substantially weaker than he was in his prime.
@@xenowarrior282 my main point I was getting at. Is that Dante dealing with argosax with ease in base. Should be more impressive than the way sparda was implied to deal with him, which is with some level of difficulty and needing assistance. Also it is likely that sparda encountered argosax before he met eva, since the lore states that sparda was protecting the human world for centuries before he met his wife. So he was most likely in his prime at the time he fought argosax. This making dantes feat that much more impressive.
@@tjmak7138 I feel like you didn't actually read my comment.
I'm trying to say your point is invalid. You can't use Sparda needing help against Argosax as an argument because he quite literally sealed most of his power away when he sealed Temen Ni Gru.
The Sparda that fought Argosax 400 years ago is no where near his prime. Literally a fraction of a fraction of his full power. I suggest watching Zimatorn's Sparda reference video for a full analysis on where Sparda actually scales.
Hey digital I have question for you; do you think that Vergil absorbed the devil bringers power. I ask this because it was never stated he did( if it does then I missed that) and then as Urizen uses the Yamato as a shield which when it is in that shield like state it has a similar color pattern to the devil bringer. It would also explain why Urizen is so strong ( with him feeding the tree, him getting stronger after the Nelo fights). If that the case it would parallel him with his brother even more. With Dante absorbing the rebellion, the tree, and devil sword Sparada. Then Vergil absorbing the Yamato, his son’s arm, the fruit, and his human half.
no offence, but you're saying that beginning of dmc5 nero is more powerful than sparda because he was angry and destroyed urizens crystal considering sparda had so many more feats
I get that. But urizen at that point would literally embarrass sparda even at his peak. Considering that sparda at his apex needed assistance with argosax who is moondus lvl if not stronger. The same argosax who got blitzed and one shot but base dmc2 Dante. Who is weaker than his dmc 5 self. Dmc 5 Dante in the first act of the game got molested by urizen. And could not even dent his crystal. So yes Nero doing that alone puts him a good bit above sparda. Hell sparda was surpassed by Dante in dmc 2 so he was arguably stronger than sparda at the end of dmc 4.
ig but still sparda had the power of all 3 of the swords that were given to dante and vergil; rebellion, sword of sparda and yamato. and no i dont think DSD surpasses spardas power. Also, sparda was able to seal away mundus and all of his legions into the underworld forever (until vergil and arkham resurrected the teme-nigru) by himself, DMC1 dante couldn't even seal mundus away by himself and needed trish to give him power. So i don't trust that any of the dmc5 cast come close to sparda, elt alone nero. yes sparda needed help to defeat argosax because he was weakened after doing the whole sealing away business, like when vergil lost to mundus in dmc3 to become nelo angelo.
heres a video by the same guy who made this tierlist, digitalT
th-cam.com/video/Cp1ayYnnN0Y/w-d-xo.html in the first 10 seconds he says that Sparda is the most powerful demon from the underworld which would then also mean the strongest character from DMC at all considering that pure humans are not strong at all
@@thesoldiertf2774 fair point but, I would argue that going off the novels. Dante defeated void. Moondus who is a more powerful version of the one he fought in dmc 1. And beat him without the amps he had in the first game. If we up scale from that and use the statement that Dante grows more powerful with age. On top of the feats that would upscale Dante even further that that. I think it is safe to say they surpassed sparda. Also Nero isn't pure human in dmc 5. He lost a lot of his power when he lost his arm but. Demonic blood would still be in him. Considering he is still vergils son. Last note. We don't have an an exact time frame of when sparda encountered argosax, so it could be reasonable to say that he still had all his weapons when he sealed him. So Dante one shoting. Argosax who is stated to rival moondus is a valid case
@@thesoldiertf2774 being the strongest demon from the underworld doesn’t include those that aren’t from the underworld (Nero, Dante, Vergil, or Urizen). Just wanted to point out that is why I specifically said it the way I did.
Where is the vv ?
What if you put fury from dmc5 against bayonetta's grace and glory
Can you make a what if video if nero had devil sword sp instead of yo in devil may cry 4 and 5 and how wood it change the story?
PLEASE! Crop the screen so I don't see ads on the sides for the entire hour; next time.
Hey Digital, can you make a video about the debate of Vergil VS Goku? It seems pretty equal and I wanna know who wins. Congrats on 10K! ❤
Equal? i guess you lack motivation.
I have question if you know did sparda fight all demon army and mundus at sane tinw or he just fight army first and then faced mundus in 1v1
He fought his way through the army, and then Mundus. There is a comic that shows Sparda approaching Mundus.
@@DigitaltYTdo we know difficulty that psarda bega mundus?
DigitalT I have a question to just like sort of see where you stand on this but who would you say is stronger Demon Beowulf or Demon Balrog. Balrog is never explicitly shown but just by the fact that he is stronger than Berial. Who would you say is stronger?
Balrog is noted to he stronger than Berial in the weapon files of DMC5
@@DigitaltYT So. Which demon is stronger Beowulf or Balrog. Off pure speculation.
@@drako.g oh, I misread it. It’s hard to say between the two of them, but since Beowulf is noted to have immeasurable power as one of the gatekeepers of the tower in DMC3 I would give him the edge over Balrog.
@@DigitaltYT ok good to know. Thx.
shouldn't technically sparda be the strongest? if not I still think he'd be above mission 1 Nero
not strongest but better that mission 1 nero for sure
i see in the list that nero dmc5 Stronger than sparda who beats all boss to get to Mundus and beat him . thats strange ) . i well say that Sparda is the strongest
Sparda was powerclifded by post DMC1 Dante
@@tabkg5802 Negative
@@emastermet609 "Negative" my ahh. Amount of evidence for DMC2/pre DMC2 Dante being stringer than Sparda is much more numerous than a single Nico statement lol
Did bro forgot to add V?
You should've separated Argosax and Despair Embodied
So you obviously know more about DMC than I will, so I won’t argue my little nitpicks. But why in the world do you think Nelo Angelo is stronger than Nelo Angelo/Vergil in the final fight? That makes no sense gameplay wise, narrative wise, or lore wise?
You don’t get weaker when you decide to have a last stand and put everything on the line.
Its a good list the only things I have a problem with is no V and lady and trish is to low since dante hype them up in the beginning of the game also base devil arm nero in 4 like is it stated that nero even used the yamamoto against credo or even used his dt amp against sanctus and the savior
Dante hyping them up doesn't mean anything. I'm paraphrasing here, but he says no one but him and Vergil can beat them, which is blatantly false.
Lady has never fought a boss level demon. Her best feat is killing demons in their true form pretty easily when the Hellgate opened in dmc4.
Trish has hardly anything. Trinity of Fates says she was created to be more in the league of the Marionettes in terms of power since her only purpose was to be a lure for Dante. She gets a big boost due to getting a human heart, but there's nothing to put her any higher than she is in the tier list.
Nero uses the Yamato against Credo and Sanctus in the novel. He uses Maximum Bet to finish off Credo and uses Yamato exclusively against Sanctus since Red Queen and Blue Rose were badly damaged.
Dante staitment litteraly would mean that dmc3 vergil would beat trish and lady at same time
I respect your opinions but this is pretty inaccurate,I would have changed a lot of placements,like I would put dmc 5 Nero with his arm above dmc 4 dt Dante cause in deadly fortune it was stated that Nero COULD be stronger than Dante at that time,and dmc 5 Nero with his arm is leagues above dmc 4 end of the game Nero which Dante states to might be stronger than him.Then another big thing is the placement of Chen,Mundus,void Mundus,Argosax ,Abigail and the savior.
Let me explain:
Argosax was stated to transcend everything at the time of dmc 2 that would mean that he’s above Chen Mundus void Mundus Abigail savior cause they all were dead at the time of Argosax besides the savior.Then Sparda also should be above all of them including Argosax cause he literally defeats and even seals him with help in his very weakened form.Chen should be above the savior what you did right,then the savior should be above void Mundus cause Dante had a few problems with the savior in dmc 4,where Dante in the dmc 2 novel in base neg diffed void Mundus and even played with him,and remember this dmc 2 novel Dante is WAYYY weaker than dmc 4 base Dante that fought against the savior.Then I would put argosax‘s chaos form above Mundus cause in this form Mundus couldn’t defeated Argosax even tho he ate the Qliphoth fruit.After that would be dmc1 Sparda dt Dante,and then dmc 1 base Dante,and behind him corrupted Vergil which is above Mundus‘ true form which I agree with you.After Mundus‘ true form would be his normal form in dmc 1 with his wings where he already ate the fruit.After him would be Pluto,and behind Pluto would be Mundus before the Qliphoth fruit cause Mundus‘ could not defeat Pluto alone.Then there would be Nelo Angelo,then Nightmare,and V tied.After that beastheads.The reason why beastheads are under nightmare is cause Mundus‘ stated that he would never create something stronger than him,and nightmare was a treat to Mundus and the beastheads weren’t.That are the few things that i would change tbh but it’s you’re opinion so RESPECT.
(Btw here’s my list that i did with professional dmc scalers):
SDT Dante&SDT Vergil>DMC.5 DT Dante&DMC.5 DT Vergil>Doppelganger Vergil>DMC.5 Base Dante&DMC.5 Base Vergil>DT Nero>DMC.5 Nero vs Vergil last fight>Urizen standing+Qliphoth Fruit>Urizen Standing>Urizen Sitting>DMC.5 Nero 2nd fight vs Urizen>DMC.5 Start of Game Dante+Sparda Sword amp>DMC.5 Start of Game Dante>DMC.5 VoV Dante>DMC.5 BTN Dante>DMC.5 Nero Start of Game+Devil Bringer>DMC.5 Nero without Devil Bringer>DMC.4 Deadly Fortune Nero>DMC.4 DT Dante>DMC.4 Dreadnaught Form Dante>DMC.4 Deadly Fortune Dante>DMC.4 Base Dante>DMC.4 DT Nero>DMC.4 Base Nero>DMC.2 Majin DT Dante>DMC.2 DT Dante>DMC.2 Base Dante>DMC.2 Novel Dante>DMC Anime Dante>Prime Sparda>Human Form Sparda>Argosax The Despair Embodied>Chen The Cannibal>The False Savior>The Savior>Void Mundus>Argosax The Chaos>DMC.1 Sparda DT Dante>DMC.1 Alastor&Ifrit DT Dante>DMC.1 Base Dante>Corrupted Vergil>Mundus True Form>Mundus Post Qliphoth Fruit>Pluto>Mundus Pre Qliphoth Fruit>Nelo Angelo>DMC.5&1 Nightmare&V+Familiars>Beastheads>DT Lucia>Base Lucia>Mutated Arius>Possessed Arius>Furiataurus>Abigail>Bolverk>Base Arius>King Cerberus>Malphas>Elder Geryon Knight>Cavaliere Angelo>Mirragio Angelo>Balrog>True Form Modeus>Base Modeus>True Form Baul>Base Baul>Mutated Arkham>Sanctus Diabolica>DMC.5 Trish>DMC.4 Trish&Gloria>DMC.2 Trish>DMC.2 Novel Trish>DMC Anime Trish>DMC.1 Trish>PoC DT Dante>PoC Base Dante>DMC.3 DT Dante all forms>DMC.3 Post DT Dante>DMC.3 DT Vergil>DMC.3 Base Vergil>DMC.3 Pre DT Dante>Avatar Mundus>Doppelganger>DMC.3 Manga Vergil>DMC.3 Manga Dante>DMC.4 DT Vergil>DMC.4 Base Vergil>Beowulf>Cerberus>DMC.1 Novel Dante>Gilver
The list goes on to btw ALL dmc characters and all dmc enemies,we ranked them all💀
If you want I can send you the whole list in the comments
Nightmare is A Tier even mundus consider it troublesome makes considering it was made from Vergil’s nightmares this is all shown in the manga or novel can’t remember and argosax lost to a heavily weakened Sparda since his fight with mundus and still lost sparda is a monsters and you downplaying devil opening dmc5 DB Nero a few years has past since dmc4/dmc4 deadly fortune it’s only natural he got stronger it’s like your forgetting Dante out right said nero might be stronger than him in dmc4 i would put dmc 5 db Nero above dmc2 base Dante and without i doubt awakened DT Nero is above the alpha & omega base vergil the Nero downplay is ridiculous and canonical it possible prime sparda could still be the strongest
Alpha and Omega Vergil had two fights with Dante, and had just triggered his Sin Devil Trigger the first time ever, which we have seen multiple times takes a ton out of you. Alpha and Omega (healthy) crushes Devil Nero.
If anything I feel he slightly overrated Nero a couple times. There is absolutely no way that no arm Nero beats the Savior.
Wait is not dmc novels none canon?
Darn it I missed it. I was asleep
Medaka Kurokami vs Dante?
can you do anime videos or no?
Feel free to check my alt channel “DigitalT Anime”, plan to cook anime there
Congratulations? Am I tripping but there’s no DMC reboot?
This was focused to the main series
@@DigitaltYT where would rank that Dante?
Bulverk fought against Sparda
Raging DMC 5 Nero is not stronger than DMC 5 Dante, literally gets called dead weight
i think sparda in this list is WAY too low
Unrelated but I’ve always felt Dan the and Vergil where equals it was just hard to say so cuz Yamato always just felt like a wayyyy better weapon then the rebellion
But the rebellion can make its wielder stronger because it can absorb powers. Devil Sword Dante = Yamato in power as we saw in post credits scene when they fought. After dmc 5 I feel like the rebellion is more powerful than the yamato now that Dante has used it to its fullest.
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