This is the first compression demo I've watched that addresses the fact that the TH-cam audio compression makes it hard to actually here the difference between bypass/engaged.
@@spiritnone2818 For whatever reason, I have trouble hearing the difference between a compression, on or off, when I watch TH-cam compression demonstrations.
I find it hard to judge any bass effect with headphones. When you plug into a real amp with a real cab at jam volumes it sounds and feels so different.
@@johnmclaughlin2392 You wouldn't be able to hear it unless using proper studio headphones/monitors. Hearing compression effect isn't an easy thing to begin with. A lot of new sound engineers struggle with it
exactly right!! because there is no difference ....and I am not deaf , I play bass 40 years without any pedals, and really dont care about compressors .. I dont see difference
@@-lakinemo-375 I bought this pedal. I don't know - should I recommend it? It's working, but it's working strange... It's my first compressor, but I know how to use VST compressors, what about this pedal - I don't have information from manual how to use it.
I think you guys should review the Mira compressor from Walrus Audio! Nobody has a good take on it for bass, so I think you guys would be perfect for it!
Well done video chaps. No codec issues here, but the waveform view is still nice to see. Wow, what's not to like about this pedal? Okay, gain reduction mood light dimming seems like a missed opportunity, but this appears to be a crazy good value for a go-to / workhorse compressor.
Would have been nice to hear brighter overdriven pick rock tone with it. As well... indication for which way is faster / slower release time (clockwise or counterclockwise) would have been nice? Manual doesnt mention anything,
Got the compressor - counterclockwise slower release and attack, clockwise faster release and attack. For the most engaging compression.. Attack all the way to the right and release all the way to the left.
Fixed threshold, like an LA-2A. You change when the compressor engages by changing the input gain (more input gain, more of the signal gets compressed).
What'wrong on "Sultans of Swing" at 4:09? Some notes are so quiet. This is the major problem with the guitar or playing technique or recording. Compressor should fill decay not fix errors.
That couple seconds with the compressor off (when the pedal image greys out), I simply either mis-hit or hit a couple notes too softly. Probably just a bad coincidence.
In my knowledge, There are two kind of active basses. (A) with active pre amp but passive pickup and (B) with active pickup and preamp. Compressor does a really great job with passive pickups. It really helps to bring up all the details without cranking the volume. If you have only active pre amp but passive pickups, compressor will be your best friend. But if you already have active pickups it would be kinda useless since active pickups have some compression of its own. But you can change the attacks and levels. Either way you can’t go totally wrong with a compressor pedal.
On a side note: what is that song at 5:28? I think it's Red Hot Chili Peppers, but other than that... I'm lost. Great song. And excellent demo by the way!
That's because the slow attack setting lets the initial attack through but cuts everything afterwards. If you want to cut off those spikes you can either set the attack faster, or if you want more control, use a separate limiter after the compressor.
Yeah, I thought that was weird too. The attack might be set too slow. This might be a deliberate choice on the part of The Bass Channel, but I do notice that younger/less experienced players confuse "compression" with boost, and "louder" with "better." The legendary mix engineer Mike Brauer once said that it takes a musician years to fully understand and actually HEAR compression.
@@Andyanddiana467 not if it sounds good. It's generally counterproductive to adjust with your eyes rather than ears. I wouldn't worry about the spikes on the screen unless you're hearing something you don't like. If it bothers you, that's what the attack knob on the compressor is for. An alternative is to turn the attack and ratio way up, and mix in a parallel uncompressed signal. It's easy to overthink this stuff, and it makes sense to go into the weeds when you're recording. Otherwise, you don't NEED a compressor to begin with. You only need it if it makes you sound better. Live, I use a compressor that doesn't even have a knob. I have no idea what it does to waveforms. When I record, I use an in-the-box limiter to tame those spikes somewhat, and it allows me to set the bass track louder in the mix, but you don't want to overdo it. OTOH using a couple of compressors, or a compressor and a limiter in succession, is a common strategy for those who want the most transparent compression possible.
I have this pedal bought it last April 13 2024 and after 1 week of having this pedal the switch is no longer working lol sometimes it does work after numerous attempt to engage it lol frustrating low-quality pedal. It gets the job done and does not kill your low end that's right but quality wise don't waste your money on this crap.
This is the first compression demo I've watched that addresses the fact that the TH-cam audio compression makes it hard to actually here the difference between bypass/engaged.
There is no volume compression on TH-cam. I've heard they boost 1db and normalize at -14 LUFS, but I'm not even sure. It's bitrate compression.
@@spiritnone2818 For whatever reason, I have trouble hearing the difference between a compression, on or off, when I watch TH-cam compression demonstrations.
I find it hard to judge any bass effect with headphones. When you plug into a real amp with a real cab at jam volumes it sounds and feels so different.
@@johnmclaughlin2392 You wouldn't be able to hear it unless using proper studio headphones/monitors.
Hearing compression effect isn't an easy thing to begin with. A lot of new sound engineers struggle with it
exactly right!! because there is no difference ....and I am not deaf , I play bass 40 years without any pedals, and really dont care about compressors .. I dont see difference
I own this and the JOYO R-30 "Tidal Wave" pre/direct and love them both. 👍
Images from DAW helped me to buy this pedal - thank you! Best video about bass pedal on youtube.
And how fell about it since ?
@@-lakinemo-375 I bought this pedal. I don't know - should I recommend it? It's working, but it's working strange... It's my first compressor, but I know how to use VST compressors, what about this pedal - I don't have information from manual how to use it.
Brilliant idea with waveforms, great video!
2:40 - 2:42 sold me
Mine came yesterday, and yes what should I say 🤤hammer
I think you guys should review the Mira compressor from Walrus Audio! Nobody has a good take on it for bass, so I think you guys would be perfect for it!
unfortunately Walrus stop the production of Mira
Great demo. Liked and subbed
Well done video chaps. No codec issues here, but the waveform view is still nice to see. Wow, what's not to like about this pedal? Okay, gain reduction mood light dimming seems like a missed opportunity, but this appears to be a crazy good value for a go-to / workhorse compressor.
It makes sense to use it primarily on passive basses like you did in the video. It's more noticeable there.
Chuck playin some peppers!🤣
Would have been nice to hear brighter overdriven pick rock tone with it. As well... indication for which way is faster / slower release time (clockwise or counterclockwise) would have been nice? Manual doesnt mention anything,
Got the compressor - counterclockwise slower release and attack, clockwise faster release and attack. For the most engaging compression.. Attack all the way to the right and release all the way to the left.
@@D3ft0nethanks, had wondered this too
Where is the knob "threshhold"?
Fixed threshold, like an LA-2A. You change when the compressor engages by changing the input gain (more input gain, more of the signal gets compressed).
What'wrong on "Sultans of Swing" at 4:09? Some notes are so quiet. This is the major problem with the guitar or playing technique or recording. Compressor should fill decay not fix errors.
That couple seconds with the compressor off (when the pedal image greys out), I simply either mis-hit or hit a couple notes too softly. Probably just a bad coincidence.
How good is this pedal with active basses would you say?
In my knowledge,
There are two kind of active basses.
(A) with active pre amp but passive pickup and (B) with active pickup and preamp.
Compressor does a really great job with passive pickups. It really helps to bring up all the details without cranking the volume. If you have only active pre amp but passive pickups, compressor will be your best friend. But if you already have active pickups it would be kinda useless since active pickups have some compression of its own. But you can change the attacks and levels. Either way you can’t go totally wrong with a compressor pedal.
2:20 song?
I’ll Be Around - QVO
@@TheBassChannel thx mate
Can you tell me some standard settings you use for a good starting point
On a side note: what is that song at 5:28? I think it's Red Hot Chili Peppers, but other than that... I'm lost. Great song. And excellent demo by the way!
Mary Jane's Last Dance - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
I am confused by first 2 the waveforms: the ones labeled "compressed" look a lot more spikey to me. Not what I was expecting.
That's because the slow attack setting lets the initial attack through but cuts everything afterwards. If you want to cut off those spikes you can either set the attack faster, or if you want more control, use a separate limiter after the compressor.
The waveform corresponds to what we hear : a beautifully punchy tone.
Yeah, I thought that was weird too. The attack might be set too slow. This might be a deliberate choice on the part of The Bass Channel, but I do notice that younger/less experienced players confuse "compression" with boost, and "louder" with "better." The legendary mix engineer Mike Brauer once said that it takes a musician years to fully understand and actually HEAR compression.
@@jkf9167 So, the solution is another pedal? Eh....
@@Andyanddiana467 not if it sounds good. It's generally counterproductive to adjust with your eyes rather than ears. I wouldn't worry about the spikes on the screen unless you're hearing something you don't like. If it bothers you, that's what the attack knob on the compressor is for. An alternative is to turn the attack and ratio way up, and mix in a parallel uncompressed signal. It's easy to overthink this stuff, and it makes sense to go into the weeds when you're recording. Otherwise, you don't NEED a compressor to begin with. You only need it if it makes you sound better.
Live, I use a compressor that doesn't even have a knob. I have no idea what it does to waveforms. When I record, I use an in-the-box limiter to tame those spikes somewhat, and it allows me to set the bass track louder in the mix, but you don't want to overdo it.
OTOH using a couple of compressors, or a compressor and a limiter in succession, is a common strategy for those who want the most transparent compression possible.
Can you guys give me an example of how you are yours?
Nice! What kind of base is the red semi hollow bass at the beginning?
2013 Gibson Midtown Standard
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Is that an emg in the jr dc?
Yep
Don't tell me they have a Charybdis pedal.
That was my EXACT thought
I have this pedal bought it last April 13 2024 and after 1 week of having this pedal the switch is no longer working lol sometimes it does work after numerous attempt to engage it lol frustrating low-quality pedal. It gets the job done and does not kill your low end that's right
but quality wise don't waste your money on this crap.