@@morrari690 According to Wikipedia, "stad" here does not mean city but is old Dutch for "stead" (stede) or "place", so "stadtholder" (which is the correct English term) means "steward".
i posted another chart yesterday. it's of the monarchs of Brazil which lasted from Portuguese colonization to the last emperor of a independent Brazil, Peter II.
I notice i small mistake . Juliana isnt a dother from wilhelmina. Becouse of a disise wilhelmina count have healty childeren. and therefor the real queen whas a dowy. she is changed whit a village girl near the domain of the orange. Its a secret thats redraw from the public.
What very conveniently goes unmentioned by "experts" in European Lineage is the fact that all Royal Bloodlines in Europe descend from *T2 and H mitochondrial and Y-DNA*. All of them-- through proximity of blood or from unbroken male or female lines in which the DNA has never changed. Can you do more to put this in the public domain since you decided to contradict me on whether George Washington produced heirs in the British West Indies?
Fun Fact: Adolph, the successor of William III. in Luxemburg, was originally the Duke of Nassau. However, his Duchy was conquered and annexed by Prussia as a result of the Austro-Prussian War of 1866, so he lived as a private nobleman for almost 30 years until he inherited the Grand Duchy of Luxemburg in 1890.
Private VERY WEALTHY noblemen. He recieved monetary compensation from the Prussian government and was allowed to retain almost all of his stately residences in Nassau. I think it’s the money he received from Prussia that was the basis for the current Luxembourgish monarchy’s wealth.
Interesting fact that wasn't mentioned: in 1983 the Dutch changed the succession rules to absolute primogeniture, so that Willem-Alexander's daughter are still first in line, even if they somehow get a younger brother. Netherlands was the second European monarchy to establish absolute primogeniture, after Sweden in 1980.
Ek het gehoor dat hollands en afrikaans baie naby aan mekaar is so sê vir my, kan jy hierdie verstaan? Translation: I heard that dutch and afrikaans are closely related so tell me, do you understand me?
@@CaraTheStrange Afrikaans kan ik redelijk goed begrijpen. En nu kan ik eindelijk een deze gedachte kwijt. *Als je springbock letterlijk als een Engels woord leest is en het dan weer terug vertaalt in het Nederlands krijg je Lentebok, een soort bier.* *when you read springbock as an English word and translate it back in Dutch you get ‘lente’ that is the season, and bok, a male goat. Together makes that lentebok, a special beer.*
@@CaraTheStrange Yes i can understand it. ...well to some degree. It's more like i can figure out what the question is to be honest. You write ' I heard that Dutch and Afrikaans are closely related to each other, can i understand this?' But that isn't so strange after all Afrikaans was introduced on 6 april 1652 when Dutch settlers founded the Dutch cape colony. Since then it has evolved but like 90% is still simular spoken out it's even harder to understand for us. But let me reverse the sentence in modern day Dutch 'Ik heb gehoord dat Nederlands and Afrikaans aan elkaar verwant zijn, kan je dit verstaan?' Then you will notice more then 370 years seperate the languages. Afrikaans is old Dutch that has evolved over 370 years in a different country. FYI Holland is just a part of the Netherlands. It indeed has 2 provences called North and South Holland but there are 10 other provinces as well. Since the seat of government and the capital are located in the North and South Holland procences, foreigners think it's called Holland. But Dutch is spoken in all provences and the whole country is called The Netherlands.
Bonus fact: Queens Juliana and Beatrix both abdicated on the same holiday - April 30 (in 1980 and 2013) which is the monarch's national holiday (Kings/Queens Day), making it very easy to calculate their reigns. Also, after retiring, their title changed to princess instead of queen.
And being an old fart I still blame Willem-Alexander for not keeping that "tradition" but changing the national holiday to a few days earlier, just because that's his birthday. gmmmmbl, selfish prick.
Pedantic but..... : They did not change their title to princess but maintained the title of prince(ss) of Orange, a principality the family still claims the title to. (Guess how the French government feels 'bout that :D )
You are right and you are wrong. The Kings/Queens birthday is the national holiday. As April 30 was Juliana's birthday. Beatrix however was born on Jan 31, which is a bit cold for outdoors festivities. So she kept it on April 30. Willem however is born on April 27, Ergo we now have the national holiday on April 27. ;-) Curious to see what Amalia will do in the future with her Dec 7 birthday.
@@DutchLabrat it’s slightly different, they (and Queen Wilhelmina as well) reverted to the title of Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau, which all members of the Dutch royal house have and which the monarch for the time being retains. The title of Prince of Orange is only held by the heir apparent of the day (Princess of Orange was before 1983 only used for the heir apparent’s wife, since the constitutional change of 1983 only for the heiress apparent).
Not to mention her wit especially with Wilhelm II when he mentioned his guards were 7 feet tall and hers were only shoulder high to them. And then she remarked that when she opens her dykes the water will be 10 feet deep.
@@TheDeluche Wilhelm 2 would never have attacked the Netherlands. There was no benefit in it. Modern air warfare didn't exist and the idea of landings on the beaches even less. Also, the neutrality of dutch ports meant the germans could buy goods through the Netherlands. Otherwise not obtainable. Basically, Dutch neutrality prolonged the war in favor of the Germans...
@@dgray3771Well, landings on beaches... There were several in history though. Look at the invasion of the Normans in 1066 England for example. But not on a scale possible by WWI standards indeed. Also, for the Allies it was a handy trade channel as well to have a neutral party inbetween. It saved a front and they got Axis produced goods by the Dutch as well. In recent research, the Netherlands was proven to be a drugs lab for all troops around as well. Otherwise the troops wouldn't go over the top. The Netherlands had the luxury position in post-war Europe. It was the largest economy of them all and the largest intact one. The Dutch became rich of trade and drugs in the War (where did we hear that again? 😉).
Orded the latest version of the chart for my grandma, and giving it to her in a few days! It's a bit of a late Hanukkah gift, but one I know she'll love.
This is really interesting. Being a Brit I’ve only ever really known about the British/English monarchy and not much about any others so it’s fun to learn about these other kingdoms
@@TMK411 He's talking about the widely known fact that England doesn't consider any history that's pre William the Conqueror to be canon. Not Echbert, Alfred, nor any of the Kings during the time of the 7 kingdoms, like Offa of Mercia who was actually recognized by Charlemagne. Your country's weird for doing that, ngl. There's a tale in Scotland about an Egyptian Princess named Scotia, who fled Egypt, went to Scotland, married Goídal Glas, and is the ancestor to the kings of the Picts, and the High Kings of Ireland. It's theorized that Princess Scotia was actually Meritaten, sister of Tutankhamen, daughter of Akhenaten, and fled after the Amarna heresy instead of dying. When they found King Tut and checked his genome, they found that his genes matched current day Brits at 70%, mainland Europeans at 50%, and modern day Arab-Egyptians less than 1%. Seems like your country wants to keep that a secret for some reason.
fun fact: the grandnephew of Willam the Silent, John Maurice, Prince of Nassau-Siegen, was the governor of Dutch Brazil (yes, that was a thing) between 1637 and 1643. Even today, there are people in Northeastern Brazil that claim descent from him
Very happy to appear in this video 8:00 , I was hoping to appear in the previous one (Best Fan-made Charts of 2022) but it shows that the other charts are very good.
I love the development of the development of the Dutch monarchy, such as fascinating piece of history despite it being so young in comparison to other monarchies in Europe
It kinda traded places with France. France went from one of Europe’s oldest kingdoms to (eventually, after 2 empires and some more kings) its youngest republic and the Netherlands went from one of the oldest republics to one of the newest kingdoms.
@@Edmonton-of2ec never thought of it that way but that is an amazing piece of information, I also like how the Dutch were the first monarchy in Europe to introduce absolute primogeniture if I'm not mistaken that is
From the very start of every Useful Charts video, I always know there's a good story coming along. Real life history provides the facts, but the presentation here in these videos always makes them so enjoyable. Well done!
10:33 note he traded it for just *Eastern* Luxembourg, the western part became part of of the United Netherlands as a province (in the Southern Netherlands and later part of Belgium). Also a big southern part ended up with France. edit: and part of the Eastern side went to Prussia too, basically everything east of the Our, Sauer and Mosel rivers.
@@fukpoeslaw3613 look up the article 'Partitions of Luxembourg' on Wikipedia, it has a nice overview. Note a significant Eastern portion also went to Prussia. Metz was originally a bishopric and later a city republic, so a neighbour and not a constituent of any instance of Luxembourg.
I suppose though under the EU mix of European Parliament and Council Of Ministers a lot of over-arching strategic legislation brings the harmonious trade and participation of residents equally over all the areas even if there is no direct family rule
Though functionally similar to a Governor, the title Stadhouder lies closer in meaning to the English word "Steward", as in the _Stewards_ of Gondor ruling the nation after Eärnur disappeared. William, as stadhouder, answered to Margareta of Parma, who ruled the low countries as a whole as governor in Philips' name.
Princess Irene was not removed from the line of succession for marrying a Catholic (although it probably contributed), but for marrying a pretender to the Spanish throne who as head of the Carlist faction was at that time actively trying to get Franco to name him as future king. The Dutch Government had no wish to get involved in the restoration of the Spanish monarchy or in the ongoing dispute between the competing factions of the exiled Spanish royals over succession rights. No attempt was made to get permission from the Dutch Parliament for the marriage, thus Irene lost her right to the Dutch throne. At Carlos Hugo's side she lobbied for Carlist succession in Spain throughout the 60s and 70s. In the end Carlos Hugo never did become king of Spain, as Franco chose Juan Carlos for his successor.
actually princess Irene is not in the line of succession because her marriage was not approved by parliament her husband being catholic might have played a small role in the decision but more important was his status as carlist pretender which he refused to resign from.
I found interesting that you chose to mention that Maxime is the daughter of someone who participated in the argentinian dictatorship, but have never mentioned that Luis Alfonso, "duke of anjou" is the great-grandson of Francisco Franco, even that he has appeared frequently on Spain's and France's alternative sussecion videos
These Kind of mentions always are weirdly selective. Beatrix' husband had "embarrassing Nazi ties" aka he participated in mandatory youth service and mandatory army service. That's worth mentioning more than why the richest woman in the world was so rich (colonialism)?
@@Inzersdorf93 Both equally interesting , I wondered how she got the money and figured something to do with the Dutch East Indies and Royal Dutch Shell investments over time.
@@Inzersdorf93 I mean if you had to start pointing out unfair wealth acquisition in videos about royal families, you’d never be able to finish a sentence
6:16 for those wondering about the nature of Johan de Witt's grizzly death by the mob: he was at least partially eaten. As an inhabitant of the Netherlands, my only guess is that the members of the mob were on their way back from a football match, had had a couple of beers and a puff of the good stuff, and had the uncommon simultaneous ideas of going into politics and satisfying the munchies.
main mover in the lynching of the de Witts was the son of admital Maarten Harperszoon Tromp, Cornelis Tromp who have had previous conflicts ith the de Witts and with Micheal de Ruyter. He was passed as chief admiral and knew how to hold a grudge, eventually he drank himself to death.
Actually, the lowlands are called the low countries because they are in the lower basin of the rivers Rhine, Scheldt and Meuse. Not because parts of it lie below sea level. Gaining land that lies below sea level by draining (creating 'polders') only (seriously) started in the 16th century (right before the 80 Year War). The low countries were being called the low countries centuries before that.
As an American with not many known english ancestors from the 1700s and More known dutch ancestors from the 1700s. Now there is a Family Tree I can probably relate to. Thank you so much
Supposedly my Irish family is from the Low Countries arriving from battle against Spain (complicated) nearly impossible to paper chase the verbal story from the mid 1600s to the late 1700s
I get it, even though the lynching and consequent cannibalizing of the brothers deWitt are popular stories in the Netherlands, there is a growing group of historians that think this didn't happen (at least not the cannibalizing part)
@@Panteni87 My understanding of it is that the brothers were lynched and had their corpses mutilated (with some body parts currently being in the possession of a museum), but that at most only a small part of them was eaten by no more than a few indivuals out of a very large mob. I do believe some body parts were sold as souvenirs.
@@rienksjoerdsma that is the most realistic view, and the one I share. The story that they were eaten by the mob is more fun though (and I suspect, an event that the netherlands is inching towards once again)
Really cool. I think I forgot that the village I grew up in (Anna Paulowna) was actually the wife of William II and she was gifted that land and hence forth it was called Anna Paulowna. Funny to be reminded of that this way.
A little point about the link between the colour and the title Orange: The principality never used the colour, its coat of arms is a blue-white horn on a field of yellow. This is still found on the personal coats of arms of all members of the family. The name is probably after a local Gaul God. The colour orange/oranje is named after the fruit which is named after the Sanskrit Naranga, orange tree. The fact they are homophones is pure accidental and only noticed during the 80 years war.
Great to see a tree of my Royal Family. I am currently making a chart of ALL the Nassau-members, starting way up there. By adding all the wives I get all kinds of cross-mariageline, which are fascinating. I hope to be able to share this chart with you one day. I am not on reddit, so I don't know my way there.
Netherlands tree is an immediate click, of course. Batavia has nothing to do with the name of the country during the Roman times though, the Batavii were a local tribe.
@@jhvankesteren1979 The Romans called the region that was inhabited by the Batavii amongst others Germania Inferior and was a province of the Roman Empire. The rest of the free regions above the Rhine were just identified by the tribes that inhabited it at the time.
I've always loved how all the European Royal families are connected. Use it quite often in my lectures on genetics to due to the occurance of hemophilia in the pedigree. It used to be known as the 'Royal Disease' and the actual mutation causing the disease was only discovered when the bones of the Romanovs were discovered and analyzed with Alexei being a known case of the disease and his sisters being potential carriers of the disease. Back to the Dutch side of the family. I love that we as a nation have had a strained relationship with Germany in the past for obvious reasons, yet our entire royal family is filled with people from Germany and German descent. Also the controversial spouses of our Monarchs is a bit of theme isn't it. Yet I'm pretty sure that Maxima is more popular amongst the public than Willem Alexander is. The controversy was more political than amongst the people I think.
Your charts have inspired me to make my own family tree. I've got every branch except one great grandparent traced back to the 1820s or earlier. I traced my male line to Charles X of France, so I've been able to go back to the middle ages through him
The dukes on Burgundy would be a fine addition to the chart! As the first dynasty of Burgundian dukes is on it, the second (and more prosperous) should be on it to!
Thats absolutly my feeling. Startet with the son of a frech King up to maria. Charles the bold had nearly created a New kingdom burgundy. If he had sons - Not the bourbons had achived the french Throne and until today Navarra would exist. The Habsburg empires in Austria and spain could Not grow. Europe would be very different today.
through Wikipedia research, he is the simplified family tree that goes from Philip II of Burgundy(the first Valois duke of Burgundy to the current King of the Netherlands, Willem Alexander) Philippe II le Hardi --> John I the Fearless --> Philip III the Good--> Charles I the Bold --> Mary of Burgundy (wife of Emperor Maximilian) ---> Philip I of Castile ---> Ferdinand I of HRE ---> Maria of Austria, Duchess of Jülich-Cleves-Berg ----> Marie Eleonore of Cleves ---> Anna of Prussia ----> Georg Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich I of Prussia ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia ---> Prince Augustus William of Prussia ---> Wilhemina of Prussia the elder ----> King Willem I of the Netherlands ---> King Willem II ---> King Willem III ---> Queen Wilhelmina ---> Queen Juliana --> Queen Beatrix ---> King Willem Alexander
@@theflemishclonetrooper9665 yes. Wikipedia genealogical research of Royal Families is really interesting. i remembered that Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg had a Habsburg great-grandmother, which means that the House of Orange-Nassau thus are also descended from the Duke of Burgundy
When Charles V abdicated the most important part of the Netherlands was not the county of Holland but the county of Flanders and the dutchy of Brabant. Holland only being a distant third at that time.
Louis actually was quite fond of the Dutch people. Most of the Dutch people where protestant and Napoleon was Catholic. So Napoleon wanted Louis to make sure that protestants where prosecuted. But Louis liked the Dutch and didnt really care about the protestants. So when Napoleon found out he was furious and abdicated Louis from his title.
He also showed much empathy during a couple of disasters that happened during his reign, like an flood in Zeeland and an explosion in the city of Leiden. This made him quite popular.
@@Jack-HandsIn fact, he was more popular than William I. That is why he was not allowed to return to the Netherlands in his old age, though he dearly would have liked to retire here.
21:20: I don't believe Irene marrying a catholic was the issue, but rather the fact that she also did not receive permission from Parliament? (same for her sister Christina)
4:40 'keep in mind he wasn't a monarch'. That was the exact reason that his title 'Prince of Orange' was of such importance, because that gave William of Orange a monarchial status (even though he was only a prince in name) and a true replacement for the king of Spain as ruler of the Netherlands.
Its all but from the same line as "wilhelmina" was switched at birth. She was born with down syndrome so she was switched with a girl born 2 days before from a near house.
'The current Duke of Parma...' Italy is a republic, so that title is defunct. But Carlos de Bourbon de Parme was made a royal prince by the Netherlands, which is still a monarchy. It doesn't give him control over Parma.
He already made a video about Italian monarchs, including the kingdom of Naples (check the royal family trees playlist). However, the late middle ages period, between Johanna and Ferdinand the Catholic, is not so detailed, since at the time there were a bunch of different people (the Valois-Anjou, the Aragonese, the Hungarians) who all claimed the Neapolitan throne.
If I am not mistaken the name of the dynasty comes from the southern French city of Orange and has nothing to do with the fruit or the color but I believe the Dutch have adopted the color as the national color in comparatively recent times.
The city and colour have the exact same name in Dutch as well (oranje) so the link to the colour is easily made. The red in the Dutch tricolour used to be orange instead of red, this prince's flag was likely in reference to his name/title.
@@ducovanderwoude6971 In English at least there never used to be such a color as orange -it was considered a hue of red -hence the word 'redhead" -for people with orange hair-a fox,for example was simply described as a red animal or a brown one-until comparatively recently -then it was decided to be more nuanced so the color of the orange fruit was adopted .Don't know the exact time this happened!
I love that our royal family is so wild and so open about it, that the wildest thing I learned today is that some people had the misfortune to fly with a captain nicknamed Prince Pils. God, I miss the Republic. Justice for De Witt!
Why don't you guys do to your current PM what you did to Dewitt? At least DeWitt wasn't trying to plunge your country into a recession by messing with the way that people farm. Of course, I'm an American, my President's more incompetent than your PM, so I have no room to talk.
@@highpath4776 Princess Margriet was not born in the embassy, though. But the same convention of diplomatic exterritoriality was used for the maternity ward.
Ironically what neither the Canadian nor the Dutch nor the British government realised at the time was that all this theoretical switching around of territory couldn’t prevent the princess from having the British nationality from birth, as all descendants of the Electress Sophia of Hanover (George I’s mother through which he inherited the British throne) born before 1949 were automatically British nationals.
interesting to note is that the current King of the Netherlands is a descendant of the Dukes of Burgundy, who were the monarchs of the Netherlands before the Habsburgs Philippe II le Hardi --> John I the Fearless --> Philip III the Good--> Charles I the Bold --> Mary of Burgundy (wife of Emperor Maximilian) ---> Philip I of Castile ---> Ferdinand I of HRE ---> Maria of Austria, Duchess of Jülich-Cleves-Berg ----> Marie Eleonore of Cleves ---> Anna of Prussia ----> Georg Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich I of Prussia ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia ---> Prince Augustus William of Prussia ---> Wilhemina of Prussia the elder ----> King Willem I of the Netherlands ---> King Willem II ---> King Willem III ---> Queen Wilhelmina ---> Queen Juliana --> Queen Beatrix ---> King Willem Alexander
Very nice and comprehensive video, only a small detail. At 5.44 you talk about the end of the 30-Year War, when it in fact was the 80-Year War! Other then that, great video.
8:12 It's fascinating to me that both John William Friso and Johan Friso (1968-2013, brother of current King) died in similar fashion. Albeit not by drowning Johan Friso died after being stuck under a avalanche too long, effectively drowned by snow.
Great video. Just wanted to mention I believe you misspelled Johan de Witt (in the video it is "Johan de Wiit", or it is an English spelling I am unfamiliar with.
Another fantastic video as always. I do have a request though. Your videos are heavily reliant on audio so if you need to make a correction, please re-record the audio instead of flashing up the correction on screen. It's also great for blind people.
There was a funny (but completely based on nothing) rumor that Princess Amalia, the heir to the Dutch throne, was dating Prince Gabriel of Belgium, second in line to the throne after his sister. That would have been a problem since it says in Belgian Law that nobody from the house of Orange Nassau can have any post of importance in Belgium
She wouldn’t have an important post in Belgium. He would have gotten the post of Prince-Consort in The Netherlands. And we don’t have such a ridiculous rule, so this wouldn’t be a problem.
12:56 Queen Wilhelmina being the richest woman in the world is a popular fable, unfortunately also repeated by historians. C. Schmidt wrote an article ("Over de rijkdom van het Oranjehuis") in De Gids 1988, that is supported by facts, showing that she was more likely one of the poorer monarchs.
I love how The Netherlands was one of the only "republics" in Europe, and as soon as republican revolutions swept the continent, they went to a monarchy.
Actually they just changed the title from stadholder ( already heditairy) to king ( also heditairy) the king ( or queen ) is NOT crowned - like the English, but sworn in.
@@kamion53 While the stadholders were hereditary in practice they weren't in theory: each one had to be elected by the staten-generaal (kinda similar to how the Holy Roman Emperor got elected).
@@sd-ch2cq In 1748 when Willem V became stadholder the stadholdership was declared hereditairy for all 7 provinces. Ironicly he was also the last carrying that title. And it was based on the hereditarity his son Willem claimed the LowCountries after the Napoleontic tide had turned.
@@kamion53 eh there was also a wide constitutional change that fundamentally altered the way the country was organized, the Oranjes actually became genuine heads of states, got a very different way of executing power in a very different style of government.
@@enrajbroin I did a bit of oversimplifing the change from stadholder to king. indeed there were major changes in the construction of the state, but that already had started when the Batavian Republic was founded and under the Kingdom Holland under Napoleons brother Louis. It is said domewhere that his contribution was giving the Dutch a sense of nationality more than being Frisians, Guelders of Hollanders and quite a few state constructions under his rule were taken over when the Oranges became king of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1814 but they were not held in the same regard as the great royal houses of Europe.
I am always intrigued by translation convention of names. I can never figure out why Willem I, II and III are all William in English, but Willem-Alexander gets to keep his Dutch spelling of William.
@@Raadpensionaris It's strange that for England/Britain, us Dutch people call a guy like Henry VIII "Hendrik VIII" and the kings called George just George and not "Joris".
The birth in the Canadian Hospital actually shows the very real distinction between "Reality" and "Actuality". While the Canadian Hospital in reality was Canadian soil, it became non-Canadian in actuality.
I don't agree, actually and really mean the same thing, so does reality and actuality (also common terms in television for example both used interchangeably to differentiate with fictional works). "Actually" happens to be the current popular term to start a corrective comment, like 'verily' used to be, but in effect it means nothing different. What it boils down to is that a country exists by concept of claimed territory, thus is you remove the claim the territory is legally no longer part of said country, which is what took place in '43. If a plot of land is made extra-territorial in that way, it isn't part of the country by definition, in reality, actuality and judicially. Maybe not by popular opinion, but that's a different matter.
Was going through the patrilinear male line ancestry of King Charles III, found out his patrilineal great grand parents and above generations were King of Greece and Denmark and the more above generations I went some German and Prussian royalty came into the scene. Would be good if you cover this topic as other kingdom's of the world follow the male line patrilineal system and another new idea, you can make a video on who would have been the the King of UK and Northern Ireland and other commonwealth realms if they had followed this system as well that is strictly male line patrilineal like the Japanese royal family. (8/1/23 7:29pm)
You called it the 30year war with Willem the silent. At school we learned it was the 80year war, with a treaty in between of 12 years. Given the fact that south america was rich in gold and silver gave the Dutch the chance to hold on for so long. In 2 ways in fact. The Spanish had many people in south america, in stead of the low lands. And Dutch were robbing their Silver and Gold on the Atlantic ocean.
The 30 year war was a larger scale war on the european continent between the catholic habsburgs (holy roman empire/spanish) and the protestants (bohemia/danish/swedish (and for geo-political reasons the catholic french)). The dutch republic was in league with the protestants. Both the 30 year war and the 80 year war ended in oktober of 1648, with the treaty of Münster and the treaty of Osnabrück. The independence of the Dutch Republic was part of the treaty of Münster. The Dutch Revolt/80 year war revolutionized warfare at the time, and the swedish empire employed a lot of the military doctrines that were first used by the dutch republic.
There are actually six lines between William the Silent and Willem Alexander. Or at least six lines that I know of. 1) The well known line through Albertine Agnes of Orange Nassau, the paternal grandmother of Johan Willem Friso. 2) Johan Willem Friso's maternal grandmother, Henriëtte Catharina of Nassau, was also a granddaughter of William the Silent, and therefore cousin of Albertine Agnes. 3) There is a little known line through queen-consort and regent Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, whose mother Helena of Nassau was a great-great-granddaughter of stadhouder William IV. 4) Johan Willem Friso's wife and mother of William IV, Maria Louise van Hessen-Kassel, descends from William the Silent through his daughter Catharina Belgica of Nassau 5) She also decends from William the Silent through his daughter Louise Juliana of Nassau and her granddaughter Hedwig Sofie van Brandenburg. 6) She also decends from William the Silent through (again) his daughter Louise Juliana of Nassau and her other granddaughter Louise Charlotte van Brandenburg. The Nassaus like to keep it in the family. Not as belly as the Spanish Habsburgs, but still enough to raise some eyebrows.
3:07: Upper Guelders (present day area around Roermond) and Guelders (roughly present day province Gelderland and a bit of Germany) are the same Dutchy... its just that there is a part of Limburg in between. 19:51: not looks likely. The constitution is changed by now and oldest child is always heir-appearant, regardless of gender. Even if a son is born (this late), he will not take precedence over the current heir.
What you should have mentioned is that The William I-III line wasn't the only stadholder. Friesland, Groningen and Drenthe had a seperate line, the one that Johan Willem Friso belonged to. The palace of this line, Nassau-Dietz, is still located in the heart of Leeuwarden. Johan Willem Friso is known as 'Us Heit' (our father) as he was a good stadtholder, and likewise his wife, Maria-Louise of Kassel was known as 'Marijke Meu' - Aunt Maria. It can thus be said that 'the Frisian Nassaus saved the house of Orange'
The family of Nassau-Dillenburg/Dietz was the continuous line that inherited the northern stadhoudership, eventually inheriting the titles to Orange and all of The Netherlands. It's typically a Hollandic view to talk about "stadhouder-less" times, as that was a problem Holland had with its branch of the house of Orange. Nassau-Dietz, after the French unpleasantness, became the monarchs of The Netherlands.
Great video, only the map at 10:28 isn't correct. Luxembourg used to be over twice its shown and current size before 1830. Then Belgium took those lands which resulted in the current borders.
That isn't correct, in 1815 the Congress of Vienna partitioned Luxembourg in three parts, the western part went to the United Kingdom of The Netherlands (becoming the Province of Luxembourg there), most of the eastern part became the Grand-Duchy and the outer eastern part (east of the Our, Saur and Mozel rivers) went to Prussia. In 1830 Belgium simply started from the Southern Netherlands provinces, including that Luxembourg province that by then existed for 15 years already, it's not like they 'took' it or whatever.
@@GBOAC I’m afraid your version is not correct. The Congress of Vienna did include the western part in the Grand-Duchy, it was split off only in 1839 in the partition treaty of the Netherlands and Belgium.
I wish the description linked to those Fan Made Subreddit Charts you mentioned, they probably aren't so easy to find scrolling it now over a year later.
Great video! 2 minor gripes: Beatrix is pronounced with 3 syllables, [Bee-yah-trix] or even better [Bay-yaj-trix] Amalia has the stress on the second syllable, aMAlia.
9:23 Louis(Lodewijk), Napoleon's brother was quite loved by his people. For example during explosion in Leiden in 1807 he was reported to personally help in the relief effort physically. He also tried to learn the dutch language when court language was still French. This lead to his introduction as: Iek bin Konijn of Olland, which is butchered pronounced dutch for "I am king of Holland". His litteral setence meant " I am the Rabbit of Holland.
Fun fact: in the 1780s there was a revolutionary movement in the Dutch Republic that wanted to remove the stadtholders from power and restore a more pure republican tradition in the Netherlands. This revolution was snuffed out with some help from the Prussians (the wife of stadtholder William V was a Prussian princess) and the Patriots, as they were called, ran off to France. There, they spread their ideas to the dissatisfied French people, who eventually managed to start the French Revolution. This is the reason why the French republic's flag is red, white and blue, it's based on the Dutch Republic's flag because the Patriots, aka the instigators of the French Revolution, had the Dutch Republic during the Stadtholderless Periods as their ideal. The French republicans in turn managed to support the Dutch Patriots when they tried their takeover in the Netherlands again... and *won.*
This is an urban legend, not a historical fact. The French flag was based on the red/blue Parisian flag that was turned into a 'cockade' (circle form), later with white added, as per Wikipedia: "On 17 July, King Louis XVI went to Paris to meet the new French National Guard: its members wore the blue and red cockade of the militia, to which it would appear that the Marquis of Lafayette, commander of the Guard, had added a white band representing loyalty to the Sovereign.[4] Louis XVI put it on his hat and - with some reluctance - approved the appointment of the revolutionary Jean Sylvain Bailly as mayor of Paris, and the formation of the National Guard led by Lafayette.[5] Thus was born the French tricolor cockade. On the same day, the Count of Artois left France, along with members of the nobility supportive of absolute monarchy.[6]". Also the story that Dutch revolutionaries somehow invented the idea to overthrow the establishment is ludicrous, there were talks and writings about this for decades in France. Maybe they helped to spark the event but it was inevitable to say the least.
The Dutch Patriots took their inspiration, partly, from the American Revolution, just as the French revolutionaries did. The French flag is not based on the Dutch flag, although it may have inspired it a bit. The colors however come from the flag of Paris (red and blue) and the color of the monarchy (white). And yes many Patriots fled to France, but first most fled to the Habsburg Netherlands, may I remind you that both France and the Habsburg Netherlands were at that moment ruled by monarchs? And both monarchs financially supported the Dutch Patriots while they lived on their lands and in their cities.
Matt..... can i suggest the monarchy of Georgia?? They've got a pretty interesting history that connects them to many other historical thrones and empires .....
Small remark: you mentioned 'stadhouder' as a rough translation meaning governor. Actually, it means 'placeholder' in that period and culture, as the Stadhouders were factually seen as placeholders of the older, long gone Counts of the House of Holland. The stadhouder 'held the place' of the now-gone Counts.
Hm, it might be prudent to mention that because Dutch monarchs can't marry a Catholic, the princes and princesses had to go look for spouses in the North and East regions. Scandinavia had it's own unsuitable options, and if you go much further, people are either Catholic, Greek Orthodox or even more off the path, so that only leaves the German region. Not the popular choice but both Bernhard and Clause did a lot to make up for it. It is what it is.
No, it would not be prudent, as such a rule never existed in law. Only the requirement of parliamentary approval of royal (including princely) marriages has always existed, and parliament for a long time refused to approve catholic marriages, which has changed.
You are incorrect on one fact. Dutch independence from the Spanish Hapsburg crown was the “80 years’ war” which all Dutchmen know is from 1568-1648. It was not the 30 years’ war, which was a 17th-century religious conflict between Roman Catholics and Protestants.
during the Dutch revolt the majority of the Low Lands was Catholic, in the south as well in the north. Protestants were a minority and stayed so a very long time. however early in the revolts cities governements were taken over by protestant minorities. Main motive of the upraising was the refusing of the cities to house Spanish troops.
Also the south (Flemish and Brabtine cities) were more so centers of the reformation than the North, and many people from cities like Antwerp fled North
The name Holland means Hollow land, an old name for Nether- or Low land. It’s true that there are two provinces with the name Holland in it, naming North Holland and South Holland (Noord Holland and Zuid Holland) but it is also an old name for the whole of the Netherlands it self. If you look at old maps you’ll see this.
I’m sorry to say, but this is incorrect. Holland comes from Old Dutch “Holt/Hold Land”, which means wood land. You can still see this in the German word for wood: Holz. Holland used to have a giant ancient forest covering the region between The Hague & Alkmaar. Some city parks in these old cities still have parts of the forest incorporated into them, although the ancient trees are long gone sadly. But the Haarlemmer Hout & Haagse Bos are remnants of this ancient wood land.
Emma of Waldeck Pyrmond married King William III . Both Emma s parents were direct descendants of William IV and Anne of Great- Britain via their daughter Carolina of Orange-Nassau.
Princess Irene is not in the line of succession because she married without the approval of Parliament. It had nothing to do with marrying a Catholic. The Netherlands doesn't have the outdated rules that some other monarchies have.
She didn't get permission because her husband was aiming for the Spanish throne (which he never got), so if the marriage was approved Irene's children could potentially inherit the thrones of both the Netherlands and Spain and that was considered undesirable.
Main obstacle was she married the Carlist claiment to the Spanish throne at the time Franco still ruled Spain and the Bourbon claim of Juan Carlos was not solified yet.
You require the approval of Parliament to marry ... and that's not an outdated rule?!!! 🙄 As for why the Parliament did not approve: Are you sure her husband's religion played absolutely no role in the minds of the members of Parliament? I don't think so.
@@nHans it certainly playes SOME part, since her youngest sister also married a catholic without permission and was removed from the line of succesion too.
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@@morrari690 According to Wikipedia, "stad" here does not mean city but is old Dutch for "stead" (stede) or "place", so "stadtholder" (which is the correct English term) means "steward".
i posted another chart yesterday. it's of the monarchs of Brazil which lasted from Portuguese colonization to the last emperor of a independent Brazil, Peter II.
I notice i small mistake . Juliana isnt a dother from wilhelmina. Becouse of a disise wilhelmina count have healty childeren. and therefor the real queen whas a dowy. she is changed whit a village girl near the domain of the orange. Its a secret thats redraw from the public.
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What very conveniently goes unmentioned by "experts" in European Lineage is the fact that all Royal Bloodlines in Europe descend from *T2 and H mitochondrial and Y-DNA*. All of them-- through proximity of blood or from unbroken male or female lines in which the DNA has never changed. Can you do more to put this in the public domain since you decided to contradict me on whether George Washington produced heirs in the British West Indies?
Fun Fact: Adolph, the successor of William III. in Luxemburg, was originally the Duke of Nassau. However, his Duchy was conquered and annexed by Prussia as a result of the Austro-Prussian War of 1866, so he lived as a private nobleman for almost 30 years until he inherited the Grand Duchy of Luxemburg in 1890.
Private VERY WEALTHY noblemen. He recieved monetary compensation from the Prussian government and was allowed to retain almost all of his stately residences in Nassau. I think it’s the money he received from Prussia that was the basis for the current Luxembourgish monarchy’s wealth.
I feel like this should be made into a debate video
@@Edmonton-of2ec Of course getting the money is one thing, keeping hold of its value is another (as assorted nobles over the years have found out)
@@highpath4776 Considering the current Grand Duke is estimated to be worth approximately $1 billion I’d say they’ve done a pretty good job
Interesting fact that wasn't mentioned: in 1983 the Dutch changed the succession rules to absolute primogeniture, so that Willem-Alexander's daughter are still first in line, even if they somehow get a younger brother.
Netherlands was the second European monarchy to establish absolute primogeniture, after Sweden in 1980.
As a Dutchman, this made my day. Your videos are usually excellent but it gives a different sensation when it’s about your fatherland.
motherland too, if you follow the matrilineal line.
Ek het gehoor dat hollands en afrikaans baie naby aan mekaar is so sê vir my, kan jy hierdie verstaan?
Translation:
I heard that dutch and afrikaans are closely related so tell me, do you understand me?
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Ja, dit is makkelijk te begrijpen👍
@@CaraTheStrange Afrikaans kan ik redelijk goed begrijpen. En nu kan ik eindelijk een deze gedachte kwijt. *Als je springbock letterlijk als een Engels woord leest is en het dan weer terug vertaalt in het Nederlands krijg je Lentebok, een soort bier.*
*when you read springbock as an English word and translate it back in Dutch you get ‘lente’ that is the season, and bok, a male goat. Together makes that lentebok, a special beer.*
@@CaraTheStrange Yes i can understand it. ...well to some degree. It's more like i can figure out what the question is to be honest. You write ' I heard that Dutch and Afrikaans are closely related to each other, can i understand this?' But that isn't so strange after all Afrikaans was introduced on 6 april 1652 when Dutch settlers founded the Dutch cape colony. Since then it has evolved but like 90% is still simular spoken out it's even harder to understand for us. But let me reverse the sentence in modern day Dutch 'Ik heb gehoord dat Nederlands and Afrikaans aan elkaar verwant zijn, kan je dit verstaan?' Then you will notice more then 370 years seperate the languages. Afrikaans is old Dutch that has evolved over 370 years in a different country. FYI Holland is just a part of the Netherlands. It indeed has 2 provences called North and South Holland but there are 10 other provinces as well. Since the seat of government and the capital are located in the North and South Holland procences, foreigners think it's called Holland. But Dutch is spoken in all provences and the whole country is called The Netherlands.
Bonus fact: Queens Juliana and Beatrix both abdicated on the same holiday - April 30 (in 1980 and 2013) which is the monarch's national holiday (Kings/Queens Day), making it very easy to calculate their reigns. Also, after retiring, their title changed to princess instead of queen.
And being an old fart I still blame Willem-Alexander for not keeping that "tradition" but changing the national holiday to a few days earlier, just because that's his birthday. gmmmmbl, selfish prick.
Kings day is since king Willem-Alexander got crowned on his birthday April 27th. But it's still close :)
Pedantic but..... : They did not change their title to princess but maintained the title of prince(ss) of Orange, a principality the family still claims the title to. (Guess how the French government feels 'bout that :D )
You are right and you are wrong. The Kings/Queens birthday is the national holiday. As April 30 was Juliana's birthday. Beatrix however was born on Jan 31, which is a bit cold for outdoors festivities. So she kept it on April 30. Willem however is born on April 27, Ergo we now have the national holiday on April 27. ;-)
Curious to see what Amalia will do in the future with her Dec 7 birthday.
@@DutchLabrat it’s slightly different, they (and Queen Wilhelmina as well) reverted to the title of Prince(ss) of Orange-Nassau, which all members of the Dutch royal house have and which the monarch for the time being retains. The title of Prince of Orange is only held by the heir apparent of the day (Princess of Orange was before 1983 only used for the heir apparent’s wife, since the constitutional change of 1983 only for the heiress apparent).
Ah, Queen Wilhelmina... the "only man in the dutch government" (as per Churchill) during the exile in London :D
Not to mention her wit especially with Wilhelm II when he mentioned his guards were 7 feet tall and hers were only shoulder high to them. And then she remarked that when she opens her dykes the water will be 10 feet deep.
@@TheDeluche Wilhelm 2 would never have attacked the Netherlands. There was no benefit in it. Modern air warfare didn't exist and the idea of landings on the beaches even less. Also, the neutrality of dutch ports meant the germans could buy goods through the Netherlands. Otherwise not obtainable. Basically, Dutch neutrality prolonged the war in favor of the Germans...
@@dgray3771Well, landings on beaches... There were several in history though. Look at the invasion of the Normans in 1066 England for example. But not on a scale possible by WWI standards indeed. Also, for the Allies it was a handy trade channel as well to have a neutral party inbetween. It saved a front and they got Axis produced goods by the Dutch as well. In recent research, the Netherlands was proven to be a drugs lab for all troops around as well. Otherwise the troops wouldn't go over the top. The Netherlands had the luxury position in post-war Europe. It was the largest economy of them all and the largest intact one. The Dutch became rich of trade and drugs in the War (where did we hear that again? 😉).
He actually claimed she was the only man among all the exiled heads of states.
He also said he feared no man but Queen Wilhelmina.
19:02 Thanks for using my chart, I’m honoured
Orded the latest version of the chart for my grandma, and giving it to her in a few days! It's a bit of a late Hanukkah gift, but one I know she'll love.
I love Matt’s charts. I’ve purchased 6 for myself and other family members.
This is really interesting. Being a Brit I’ve only ever really known about the British/English monarchy and not much about any others so it’s fun to learn about these other kingdoms
In school do you guys learn about the monarchy from 1066 or something else?
@@_3rR0r mostly post 1066, at least in my experience
@@_3rR0r During Year 8, my school taught us about Henry VIII, the well known stuff about him
@@TMK411 He's talking about the widely known fact that England doesn't consider any history that's pre William the Conqueror to be canon. Not Echbert, Alfred, nor any of the Kings during the time of the 7 kingdoms, like Offa of Mercia who was actually recognized by Charlemagne.
Your country's weird for doing that, ngl. There's a tale in Scotland about an Egyptian Princess named Scotia, who fled Egypt, went to Scotland, married Goídal Glas, and is the ancestor to the kings of the Picts, and the High Kings of Ireland. It's theorized that Princess Scotia was actually Meritaten, sister of Tutankhamen, daughter of Akhenaten, and fled after the Amarna heresy instead of dying. When they found King Tut and checked his genome, they found that his genes matched current day Brits at 70%, mainland Europeans at 50%, and modern day Arab-Egyptians less than 1%. Seems like your country wants to keep that a secret for some reason.
fun fact: the grandnephew of Willam the Silent, John Maurice, Prince of Nassau-Siegen, was the governor of Dutch Brazil (yes, that was a thing) between 1637 and 1643. Even today, there are people in Northeastern Brazil that claim descent from him
Indeed.
Nothing special, even my family can lay a claim.
Very happy to appear in this video 8:00 , I was hoping to appear in the previous one (Best Fan-made Charts of 2022) but it shows that the other charts are very good.
I love the development of the development of the Dutch monarchy, such as fascinating piece of history despite it being so young in comparison to other monarchies in Europe
It kinda traded places with France. France went from one of Europe’s oldest kingdoms to (eventually, after 2 empires and some more kings) its youngest republic and the Netherlands went from one of the oldest republics to one of the newest kingdoms.
@@Edmonton-of2ec never thought of it that way but that is an amazing piece of information, I also like how the Dutch were the first monarchy in Europe to introduce absolute primogeniture if I'm not mistaken that is
@@thomasdixon4373 Second, Sweden beat them to the punch
@@Edmonton-of2ec thought they used male preference until lately? Probably getting muddled up lol
@@thomasdixon4373 I guess 1980 is recent if you’re… older
Great video! Only at 6:11 his surname was spelled “de Witt”, not “de Wiit”.
From the very start of every Useful Charts video, I always know there's a good story coming along. Real life history provides the facts, but the presentation here in these videos always makes them so enjoyable. Well done!
10:33 note he traded it for just *Eastern* Luxembourg, the western part became part of of the United Netherlands as a province (in the Southern Netherlands and later part of Belgium). Also a big southern part ended up with France. edit: and part of the Eastern side went to Prussia too, basically everything east of the Our, Sauer and Mosel rivers.
How big was the southern part? Metz included?
@@fukpoeslaw3613 look up the article 'Partitions of Luxembourg' on Wikipedia, it has a nice overview. Note a significant Eastern portion also went to Prussia. Metz was originally a bishopric and later a city republic, so a neighbour and not a constituent of any instance of Luxembourg.
I suppose though under the EU mix of European Parliament and Council Of Ministers a lot of over-arching strategic legislation brings the harmonious trade and participation of residents equally over all the areas even if there is no direct family rule
@@highpath4776 I'm not following what this has to do with the partitions of Luxembourg?
I made the chart at 7:46 :O Thanks for including it!
Though functionally similar to a Governor, the title Stadhouder lies closer in meaning to the English word "Steward", as in the _Stewards_ of Gondor ruling the nation after Eärnur disappeared.
William, as stadhouder, answered to Margareta of Parma, who ruled the low countries as a whole as governor in Philips' name.
Yes, I think that is a more accurate translation.
Princess Irene was not removed from the line of succession for marrying a Catholic (although it probably contributed), but for marrying a pretender to the Spanish throne who as head of the Carlist faction was at that time actively trying to get Franco to name him as future king. The Dutch Government had no wish to get involved in the restoration of the Spanish monarchy or in the ongoing dispute between the competing factions of the exiled Spanish royals over succession rights. No attempt was made to get permission from the Dutch Parliament for the marriage, thus Irene lost her right to the Dutch throne. At Carlos Hugo's side she lobbied for Carlist succession in Spain throughout the 60s and 70s. In the end Carlos Hugo never did become king of Spain, as Franco chose Juan Carlos for his successor.
actually princess Irene is not in the line of succession because her marriage was not approved by parliament her husband being catholic might have played a small role in the decision but more important was his status as carlist pretender which he refused to resign from.
I found interesting that you chose to mention that Maxime is the daughter of someone who participated in the argentinian dictatorship, but have never mentioned that Luis Alfonso, "duke of anjou" is the great-grandson of Francisco Franco, even that he has appeared frequently on Spain's and France's alternative sussecion videos
Indeed.
These Kind of mentions always are weirdly selective. Beatrix' husband had "embarrassing Nazi ties" aka he participated in mandatory youth service and mandatory army service. That's worth mentioning more than why the richest woman in the world was so rich (colonialism)?
@@Inzersdorf93 Both equally interesting , I wondered how she got the money and figured something to do with the Dutch East Indies and Royal Dutch Shell investments over time.
@@highpath4776 and perhaps Philips and the Uni part of Unilever?
@@Inzersdorf93 I mean if you had to start pointing out unfair wealth acquisition in videos about royal families, you’d never be able to finish a sentence
6:16 for those wondering about the nature of Johan de Witt's grizzly death by the mob: he was at least partially eaten. As an inhabitant of the Netherlands, my only guess is that the members of the mob were on their way back from a football match, had had a couple of beers and a puff of the good stuff, and had the uncommon simultaneous ideas of going into politics and satisfying the munchies.
main mover in the lynching of the de Witts was the son of admital Maarten Harperszoon Tromp, Cornelis Tromp who have had previous conflicts ith the de Witts and with Micheal de Ruyter.
He was passed as chief admiral and knew how to hold a grudge, eventually he drank himself to death.
It's where the term "Eat the Rich" originates.
@Gameflyer001 the phrase was originally "eat de Witt" but was misheard and the incorrect version was the one to take hold and circulated more widely
Actually, the lowlands are called the low countries because they are in the lower basin of the rivers Rhine, Scheldt and Meuse. Not because parts of it lie below sea level.
Gaining land that lies below sea level by draining (creating 'polders') only (seriously) started in the 16th century (right before the 80 Year War). The low countries were being called the low countries centuries before that.
I'm on a Versailles tv series binge, on season 2 and this is ever so timely.
As a Dutch person, I am amazed about the amount of detail in this overview.
Not only the detail, but that those details are correct.
As an American with not many known english ancestors from the 1700s and More known dutch ancestors from the 1700s. Now there is a Family Tree I can probably relate to. Thank you so much
Supposedly my Irish family is from the Low Countries arriving from battle against Spain (complicated) nearly impossible to paper chase the verbal story from the mid 1600s to the late 1700s
My great-grandmother and grandmother emigrated to the US from the Netherlands in 1912.
"Grizzly Death" By a mob is somehow an understatement
Lol is he the dude that got lynched and eaten?
I get it, even though the lynching and consequent cannibalizing of the brothers deWitt are popular stories in the Netherlands, there is a growing group of historians that think this didn't happen (at least not the cannibalizing part)
@@Panteni87 My understanding of it is that the brothers were lynched and had their corpses mutilated (with some body parts currently being in the possession of a museum), but that at most only a small part of them was eaten by no more than a few indivuals out of a very large mob. I do believe some body parts were sold as souvenirs.
@@rienksjoerdsma that is the most realistic view, and the one I share. The story that they were eaten by the mob is more fun though (and I suspect, an event that the netherlands is inching towards once again)
Rumor has it that William of Orange incited the mob by saying "DeW itt"
11:57-12:41
Now would be the perfect time for a Luxembourg-based spin-off!
A video on monarchs that died young or crown princes that never became king would be cool.
Seems like there’s many examples of that.
Really cool.
I think I forgot that the village I grew up in (Anna Paulowna) was actually the wife of William II and she was gifted that land and hence forth it was called Anna Paulowna.
Funny to be reminded of that this way.
A little point about the link between the colour and the title Orange: The principality never used the colour, its coat of arms is a blue-white horn on a field of yellow. This is still found on the personal coats of arms of all members of the family. The name is probably after a local Gaul God.
The colour orange/oranje is named after the fruit which is named after the Sanskrit Naranga, orange tree.
The fact they are homophones is pure accidental and only noticed during the 80 years war.
Great to see a tree of my Royal Family.
I am currently making a chart of ALL the Nassau-members, starting way up there. By adding all the wives I get all kinds of cross-mariageline, which are fascinating.
I hope to be able to share this chart with you one day. I am not on reddit, so I don't know my way there.
Netherlands tree is an immediate click, of course.
Batavia has nothing to do with the name of the country during the Roman times though, the Batavii were a local tribe.
After which the romans named the territory.
@@jhvankesteren1979 not totally lol. Romans had many tribe names for the region.
@@jhvankesteren1979 The Romans called the region that was inhabited by the Batavii amongst others Germania Inferior and was a province of the Roman Empire. The rest of the free regions above the Rhine were just identified by the tribes that inhabited it at the time.
And the Batavii have very little to do with the Dutch people to begin with
@@jhvankesteren1979 Actually the Roman name for the territory was Belgica.
I've always loved how all the European Royal families are connected. Use it quite often in my lectures on genetics to due to the occurance of hemophilia in the pedigree. It used to be known as the 'Royal Disease' and the actual mutation causing the disease was only discovered when the bones of the Romanovs were discovered and analyzed with Alexei being a known case of the disease and his sisters being potential carriers of the disease.
Back to the Dutch side of the family. I love that we as a nation have had a strained relationship with Germany in the past for obvious reasons, yet our entire royal family is filled with people from Germany and German descent. Also the controversial spouses of our Monarchs is a bit of theme isn't it. Yet I'm pretty sure that Maxima is more popular amongst the public than Willem Alexander is. The controversy was more political than amongst the people I think.
Probably because the Royals didnt have any say at one point and a man named Adolf was planning to make Europe great again.
Your charts have inspired me to make my own family tree. I've got every branch except one great grandparent traced back to the 1820s or earlier. I traced my male line to Charles X of France, so I've been able to go back to the middle ages through him
It helps when you get to a monarch, someone's already done the legwork. 😂
The dukes on Burgundy would be a fine addition to the chart! As the first dynasty of Burgundian dukes is on it, the second (and more prosperous) should be on it to!
Thats absolutly my feeling. Startet with the son of a frech King up to maria. Charles the bold had nearly created a New kingdom burgundy. If he had sons - Not the bourbons had achived the french Throne and until today Navarra would exist. The Habsburg empires in Austria and spain could Not grow. Europe would be very different today.
through Wikipedia research, he is the simplified family tree that goes from Philip II of Burgundy(the first Valois duke of Burgundy to the current King of the Netherlands, Willem Alexander)
Philippe II le Hardi --> John I the Fearless --> Philip III the Good--> Charles I the Bold --> Mary of Burgundy (wife of Emperor Maximilian) ---> Philip I of Castile ---> Ferdinand I of HRE ---> Maria of Austria, Duchess of Jülich-Cleves-Berg ----> Marie Eleonore of Cleves ---> Anna of Prussia ----> Georg Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich I of Prussia ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia ---> Prince Augustus William of Prussia ---> Wilhemina of Prussia the elder ----> King Willem I of the Netherlands ---> King Willem II ---> King Willem III ---> Queen Wilhelmina ---> Queen Juliana --> Queen Beatrix ---> King Willem Alexander
@@radovankekistanovic1342 ah is that the way in which the current Dutch monarchs decent from the house of Burgundy?
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yes.
Wikipedia genealogical research of Royal Families is really interesting.
i remembered that Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg had a Habsburg great-grandmother, which means that the House of Orange-Nassau thus are also descended from the Duke of Burgundy
When Charles V abdicated the most important part of the Netherlands was not the county of Holland but the county of Flanders and the dutchy of Brabant. Holland only being a distant third at that time.
your contents are one of my go to watch when im crocheting you make royal family trees so interesting🙇♀️🙇♀️
Louis actually was quite fond of the Dutch people. Most of the Dutch people where protestant and Napoleon was Catholic. So Napoleon wanted Louis to make sure that protestants where prosecuted. But Louis liked the Dutch and didnt really care about the protestants. So when Napoleon found out he was furious and abdicated Louis from his title.
He also showed much empathy during a couple of disasters that happened during his reign, like an flood in Zeeland and an explosion in the city of Leiden. This made him quite popular.
@@Jack-HandsIn fact, he was more popular than William I. That is why he was not allowed to return to the Netherlands in his old age, though he dearly would have liked to retire here.
21:20: I don't believe Irene marrying a catholic was the issue, but rather the fact that she also did not receive permission from Parliament? (same for her sister Christina)
If marrying a Catholic was an issue, the present day King would be in trouble...
She didn't receive that permission (mostly) because her husband was a pretender to the Spanish throne.
4:40 'keep in mind he wasn't a monarch'. That was the exact reason that his title 'Prince of Orange' was of such importance, because that gave William of Orange a monarchial status (even though he was only a prince in name) and a true replacement for the king of Spain as ruler of the Netherlands.
Hey Matt, I was researching on "who would be the emperor of China today". I thought it would be an interesting video for you :)
Its all but from the same line as "wilhelmina" was switched at birth. She was born with down syndrome so she was switched with a girl born 2 days before from a near house.
'The current Duke of Parma...' Italy is a republic, so that title is defunct. But Carlos de Bourbon de Parme was made a royal prince by the Netherlands, which is still a monarchy. It doesn't give him control over Parma.
I love these charts, i would really like to see one about the neapolitan monarchy
He already made a video about Italian monarchs, including the kingdom of Naples (check the royal family trees playlist). However, the late middle ages period, between Johanna and Ferdinand the Catholic, is not so detailed, since at the time there were a bunch of different people (the Valois-Anjou, the Aragonese, the Hungarians) who all claimed the Neapolitan throne.
I’ve been to the Dutch Royal Palace, and Louis II (time mark 9:41) is the one who ‘gives’ you the audio tour. Just a fun fact.
Thank you Matt
If I am not mistaken the name of the dynasty comes from the southern French city of Orange and has nothing to do with the fruit or the color but I believe the Dutch have adopted the color as the national color in comparatively recent times.
The city and colour have the exact same name in Dutch as well (oranje) so the link to the colour is easily made. The red in the Dutch tricolour used to be orange instead of red, this prince's flag was likely in reference to his name/title.
@@ducovanderwoude6971 In English at least there never used to be such a color as orange -it was considered a hue of red -hence the word 'redhead" -for people with orange hair-a fox,for example was simply described as a red animal or a brown one-until comparatively recently -then it was decided to be more nuanced so the color of the orange fruit was adopted .Don't know the exact time this happened!
I love that our royal family is so wild and so open about it, that the wildest thing I learned today is that some people had the misfortune to fly with a captain nicknamed Prince Pils.
God, I miss the Republic. Justice for De Witt!
Hij was vast heel lekker
Why don't you guys do to your current PM what you did to Dewitt? At least DeWitt wasn't trying to plunge your country into a recession by messing with the way that people farm. Of course, I'm an American, my President's more incompetent than your PM, so I have no room to talk.
Prime ministers make very good snacks :)
3:05 correction 2 parts north-holland and south-holland
this is fascinating thoroughly enjoyed it. well researched and beautifully described😀😀😀
Miffy: “Dutch Princess born *technically not* in Canada. Makes my day.”
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By convention Embassies are the sovereign soil of the country they represent (hence "diplomatic immunity" too).
@@highpath4776 Princess Margriet was not born in the embassy, though. But the same convention of diplomatic exterritoriality was used for the maternity ward.
Ironically what neither the Canadian nor the Dutch nor the British government realised at the time was that all this theoretical switching around of territory couldn’t prevent the princess from having the British nationality from birth, as all descendants of the Electress Sophia of Hanover (George I’s mother through which he inherited the British throne) born before 1949 were automatically British nationals.
interesting to note is that the current King of the Netherlands is a descendant of the Dukes of Burgundy, who were the monarchs of the Netherlands before the Habsburgs
Philippe II le Hardi --> John I the Fearless --> Philip III the Good--> Charles I the Bold --> Mary of Burgundy (wife of Emperor Maximilian) ---> Philip I of Castile ---> Ferdinand I of HRE ---> Maria of Austria, Duchess of Jülich-Cleves-Berg ----> Marie Eleonore of Cleves ---> Anna of Prussia ----> Georg Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Brandenburg ---> Friedrich I of Prussia ---> Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia ---> Prince Augustus William of Prussia ---> Wilhemina of Prussia the elder ----> King Willem I of the Netherlands ---> King Willem II ---> King Willem III ---> Queen Wilhelmina ---> Queen Juliana --> Queen Beatrix ---> King Willem Alexander
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Very nice and comprehensive video, only a small detail. At 5.44 you talk about the end of the 30-Year War, when it in fact was the 80-Year War! Other then that, great video.
8:12 It's fascinating to me that both John William Friso and Johan Friso (1968-2013, brother of current King) died in similar fashion. Albeit not by drowning Johan Friso died after being stuck under a avalanche too long, effectively drowned by snow.
i agree, how sad.
Great video. Just wanted to mention I believe you misspelled Johan de Witt (in the video it is "Johan de Wiit", or it is an English spelling I am unfamiliar with.
I really like your research into matrilineal dynasties, keep it going! 🤩
Another fantastic video as always. I do have a request though. Your videos are heavily reliant on audio so if you need to make a correction, please re-record the audio instead of flashing up the correction on screen. It's also great for blind people.
You'd think he could snip in a correction of sound just as easily as a correction on the screen.
There was a funny (but completely based on nothing) rumor that Princess Amalia, the heir to the Dutch throne, was dating Prince Gabriel of Belgium, second in line to the throne after his sister. That would have been a problem since it says in Belgian Law that nobody from the house of Orange Nassau can have any post of importance in Belgium
She wouldn’t have an important post in Belgium. He would have gotten the post of Prince-Consort in The Netherlands. And we don’t have such a ridiculous rule, so this wouldn’t be a problem.
12:56 Queen Wilhelmina being the richest woman in the world is a popular fable, unfortunately also repeated by historians. C. Schmidt wrote an article ("Over de rijkdom van het Oranjehuis") in De Gids 1988, that is supported by facts, showing that she was more likely one of the poorer monarchs.
I love how The Netherlands was one of the only "republics" in Europe, and as soon as republican revolutions swept the continent, they went to a monarchy.
Actually they just changed the title from stadholder ( already heditairy) to king ( also heditairy)
the king ( or queen ) is NOT crowned - like the English, but sworn in.
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While the stadholders were hereditary in practice they weren't in theory: each one had to be elected by the staten-generaal (kinda similar to how the Holy Roman Emperor got elected).
@@sd-ch2cq In 1748 when Willem V became stadholder the stadholdership was declared hereditairy for all 7 provinces. Ironicly he was also the last carrying that title.
And it was based on the hereditarity his son Willem claimed the LowCountries after the Napoleontic tide had turned.
@@kamion53 eh there was also a wide constitutional change that fundamentally altered the way the country was organized, the Oranjes actually became genuine heads of states, got a very different way of executing power in a very different style of government.
@@enrajbroin I did a bit of oversimplifing the change from stadholder to king.
indeed there were major changes in the construction of the state, but that already had started when the Batavian Republic was founded and under the Kingdom Holland under Napoleons brother Louis.
It is said domewhere that his contribution was giving the Dutch a sense of nationality more than being Frisians, Guelders of Hollanders and quite a few state constructions under his rule were taken over when the Oranges became king of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1814
but they were not held in the same regard as the great royal houses of Europe.
I don’t know if you take suggestions but you should do the royal family of Monaco.
I'm happy you included Luxembourg in this video.
I am always intrigued by translation convention of names. I can never figure out why Willem I, II and III are all William in English, but Willem-Alexander gets to keep his Dutch spelling of William.
Because Willem-Alexander is still alive
Regnal names were translated in the past but current and recent monarchs' names are not translated
I find the name Prince John Maurice a hard to recognize name, had to look twice to see they ment Prins Johan Maurits.
@@RealConstructor I've the same problem. Whenever I see "John", my mind either goes to "Jan" or "Johannes".
@@Raadpensionaris It's strange that for England/Britain, us Dutch people call a guy like Henry VIII "Hendrik VIII" and the kings called George just George and not "Joris".
Grazie per tutto ❤🎉
What a wonderful video, thanks!
The birth in the Canadian Hospital actually shows the very real distinction between "Reality" and "Actuality". While the Canadian Hospital in reality was Canadian soil, it became non-Canadian in actuality.
I don't agree, actually and really mean the same thing, so does reality and actuality (also common terms in television for example both used interchangeably to differentiate with fictional works). "Actually" happens to be the current popular term to start a corrective comment, like 'verily' used to be, but in effect it means nothing different.
What it boils down to is that a country exists by concept of claimed territory, thus is you remove the claim the territory is legally no longer part of said country, which is what took place in '43. If a plot of land is made extra-territorial in that way, it isn't part of the country by definition, in reality, actuality and judicially. Maybe not by popular opinion, but that's a different matter.
Was going through the patrilinear male line ancestry of King Charles III, found out his patrilineal great grand parents and above generations were King of Greece and Denmark and the more above generations I went some German and Prussian royalty came into the scene. Would be good if you cover this topic as other kingdom's of the world follow the male line patrilineal system and another new idea, you can make a video on who would have been the the King of UK and Northern Ireland and other commonwealth realms if they had followed this system as well that is strictly male line patrilineal like the Japanese royal family. (8/1/23 7:29pm)
There is a very nice video on Prince Philip by Drachinifel.
It was "Johan de Witt", not "Johan de Wiit" as written in your video. Willem-Alexander being pilot: we know that since forever, not recently.
I was wondering if I had to mention it but I am glad someone else already did :)
You called it the 30year war with Willem the silent. At school we learned it was the 80year war, with a treaty in between of 12 years. Given the fact that south america was rich in gold and silver gave the Dutch the chance to hold on for so long. In 2 ways in fact. The Spanish had many people in south america, in stead of the low lands. And Dutch were robbing their Silver and Gold on the Atlantic ocean.
The 30 year war was a larger scale war on the european continent between the catholic habsburgs (holy roman empire/spanish) and the protestants (bohemia/danish/swedish (and for geo-political reasons the catholic french)). The dutch republic was in league with the protestants. Both the 30 year war and the 80 year war ended in oktober of 1648, with the treaty of Münster and the treaty of Osnabrück. The independence of the Dutch Republic was part of the treaty of Münster.
The Dutch Revolt/80 year war revolutionized warfare at the time, and the swedish empire employed a lot of the military doctrines that were first used by the dutch republic.
There are actually six lines between William the Silent and Willem Alexander. Or at least six lines that I know of.
1) The well known line through Albertine Agnes of Orange Nassau, the paternal grandmother of Johan Willem Friso.
2) Johan Willem Friso's maternal grandmother, Henriëtte Catharina of Nassau, was also a granddaughter of William the Silent, and therefore cousin of Albertine Agnes.
3) There is a little known line through queen-consort and regent Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, whose mother Helena of Nassau was a great-great-granddaughter of stadhouder William IV.
4) Johan Willem Friso's wife and mother of William IV, Maria Louise van Hessen-Kassel, descends from William the Silent through his daughter Catharina Belgica of Nassau
5) She also decends from William the Silent through his daughter Louise Juliana of Nassau and her granddaughter Hedwig Sofie van Brandenburg.
6) She also decends from William the Silent through (again) his daughter Louise Juliana of Nassau and her other granddaughter Louise Charlotte van Brandenburg.
The Nassaus like to keep it in the family. Not as belly as the Spanish Habsburgs, but still enough to raise some eyebrows.
can you do a video about the Liechtenstein monarchs family tree?
3:07: Upper Guelders (present day area around Roermond) and Guelders (roughly present day province Gelderland and a bit of Germany) are the same Dutchy... its just that there is a part of Limburg in between.
19:51: not looks likely. The constitution is changed by now and oldest child is always heir-appearant, regardless of gender. Even if a son is born (this late), he will not take precedence over the current heir.
The House of Orange-Nassau is one family you need to remember.
Can you do a Vanderbilt family tree?
What you should have mentioned is that The William I-III line wasn't the only stadholder. Friesland, Groningen and Drenthe had a seperate line, the one that Johan Willem Friso belonged to. The palace of this line, Nassau-Dietz, is still located in the heart of Leeuwarden. Johan Willem Friso is known as 'Us Heit' (our father) as he was a good stadtholder, and likewise his wife, Maria-Louise of Kassel was known as 'Marijke Meu' - Aunt Maria. It can thus be said that 'the Frisian Nassaus saved the house of Orange'
The family of Nassau-Dillenburg/Dietz was the continuous line that inherited the northern stadhoudership, eventually inheriting the titles to Orange and all of The Netherlands. It's typically a Hollandic view to talk about "stadhouder-less" times, as that was a problem Holland had with its branch of the house of Orange. Nassau-Dietz, after the French unpleasantness, became the monarchs of The Netherlands.
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Do you know anything about a Princess Dora, House of Orange? She was a hLf sister of Queen Wilhemina.
Great video, only the map at 10:28 isn't correct. Luxembourg used to be over twice its shown and current size before 1830. Then Belgium took those lands which resulted in the current borders.
That isn't correct, in 1815 the Congress of Vienna partitioned Luxembourg in three parts, the western part went to the United Kingdom of The Netherlands (becoming the Province of Luxembourg there), most of the eastern part became the Grand-Duchy and the outer eastern part (east of the Our, Saur and Mozel rivers) went to Prussia. In 1830 Belgium simply started from the Southern Netherlands provinces, including that Luxembourg province that by then existed for 15 years already, it's not like they 'took' it or whatever.
@@GBOAC I’m afraid your version is not correct. The Congress of Vienna did include the western part in the Grand-Duchy, it was split off only in 1839 in the partition treaty of the Netherlands and Belgium.
@@HarmSchelhaas You’re right Harm, I stand corrected
Not the largest mistake. I'm pretty sure the NO-polder also didn't exist at that time xD
I wish the description linked to those Fan Made Subreddit Charts you mentioned, they probably aren't so easy to find scrolling it now over a year later.
As part Dutch myself, I find this really interesting
Great video!
2 minor gripes:
Beatrix is pronounced with 3 syllables, [Bee-yah-trix] or even better [Bay-yaj-trix]
Amalia has the stress on the second syllable, aMAlia.
Sounded like you said, "If you want to buy NEITHER of these charts" 😂
Prince Mauricio Nassau was the Guvenor of Dutch Brasil, therefore named Mauristadt Recife. His mother were a Danish-German Princess.
Great video! I love that the netherlands has had alot of queens, and will have a queen. The queens have some more warmth ig.
9:23 Louis(Lodewijk), Napoleon's brother was quite loved by his people. For example during explosion in Leiden in 1807 he was reported to personally help in the relief effort physically.
He also tried to learn the dutch language when court language was still French. This lead to his introduction as: Iek bin Konijn of Olland, which is butchered pronounced dutch for "I am king of Holland". His litteral setence meant " I am the Rabbit of Holland.
Fun fact: in the 1780s there was a revolutionary movement in the Dutch Republic that wanted to remove the stadtholders from power and restore a more pure republican tradition in the Netherlands. This revolution was snuffed out with some help from the Prussians (the wife of stadtholder William V was a Prussian princess) and the Patriots, as they were called, ran off to France.
There, they spread their ideas to the dissatisfied French people, who eventually managed to start the French Revolution. This is the reason why the French republic's flag is red, white and blue, it's based on the Dutch Republic's flag because the Patriots, aka the instigators of the French Revolution, had the Dutch Republic during the Stadtholderless Periods as their ideal. The French republicans in turn managed to support the Dutch Patriots when they tried their takeover in the Netherlands again... and *won.*
This is an urban legend, not a historical fact. The French flag was based on the red/blue Parisian flag that was turned into a 'cockade' (circle form), later with white added, as per Wikipedia: "On 17 July, King Louis XVI went to Paris to meet the new French National Guard: its members wore the blue and red cockade of the militia, to which it would appear that the Marquis of Lafayette, commander of the Guard, had added a white band representing loyalty to the Sovereign.[4] Louis XVI put it on his hat and - with some reluctance - approved the appointment of the revolutionary Jean Sylvain Bailly as mayor of Paris, and the formation of the National Guard led by Lafayette.[5] Thus was born the French tricolor cockade. On the same day, the Count of Artois left France, along with members of the nobility supportive of absolute monarchy.[6]".
Also the story that Dutch revolutionaries somehow invented the idea to overthrow the establishment is ludicrous, there were talks and writings about this for decades in France. Maybe they helped to spark the event but it was inevitable to say the least.
The Dutch Patriots took their inspiration, partly, from the American Revolution, just as the French revolutionaries did. The French flag is not based on the Dutch flag, although it may have inspired it a bit. The colors however come from the flag of Paris (red and blue) and the color of the monarchy (white). And yes many Patriots fled to France, but first most fled to the Habsburg Netherlands, may I remind you that both France and the Habsburg Netherlands were at that moment ruled by monarchs? And both monarchs financially supported the Dutch Patriots while they lived on their lands and in their cities.
You make it sound like the Dutch caused the French Revolution, which is nonsense.
Matt..... can i suggest the monarchy of Georgia?? They've got a pretty interesting history that connects them to many other historical thrones and empires .....
Small remark: you mentioned 'stadhouder' as a rough translation meaning governor. Actually, it means 'placeholder' in that period and culture, as the Stadhouders were factually seen as placeholders of the older, long gone Counts of the House of Holland. The stadhouder 'held the place' of the now-gone Counts.
Hm, it might be prudent to mention that because Dutch monarchs can't marry a Catholic, the princes and princesses had to go look for spouses in the North and East regions. Scandinavia had it's own unsuitable options, and if you go much further, people are either Catholic, Greek Orthodox or even more off the path, so that only leaves the German region. Not the popular choice but both Bernhard and Clause did a lot to make up for it. It is what it is.
No, it would not be prudent, as such a rule never existed in law. Only the requirement of parliamentary approval of royal (including princely) marriages has always existed, and parliament for a long time refused to approve catholic marriages, which has changed.
@@HarmSchelhaas, still it explains why certain partners are chosen and why any other problems associated are accepted and some are not.
@@arwengrune Certainly the policy that existed for a long time does explain that, and deserves to be mentioned.
At 6:10 a little (typo ?) mistake is made, the name must be Johan de Witt not Johan de Wiit !
As a dutch guy ive been waiting for this
You are incorrect on one fact.
Dutch independence from the Spanish Hapsburg crown was the “80 years’ war” which all Dutchmen know is from 1568-1648.
It was not the 30 years’ war, which was a 17th-century religious conflict between Roman Catholics and Protestants.
during the Dutch revolt the majority of the Low Lands was Catholic, in the south as well in the north. Protestants were a minority and stayed so a very long time.
however early in the revolts cities governements were taken over by protestant minorities. Main motive of the upraising was the refusing of the cities to house Spanish troops.
Yes, a good example of this is Amsterdam. It stayed catholic until it really couldn't hold the protestants out any longer.
Also the south (Flemish and Brabtine cities) were more so centers of the reformation than the North, and many people from cities like Antwerp fled North
fun fact our current king willem alexander used to be known as prins pils. or prince beer
For the Dutch succession, there is no difference anymore between sons and daughters. So even if Amalia was to get a brother, he would be 4th in line.
The name Holland means Hollow land, an old name for Nether- or Low land. It’s true that there are two provinces with the name Holland in it, naming North Holland and South Holland (Noord Holland and Zuid Holland) but it is also an old name for the whole of the Netherlands it self. If you look at old maps you’ll see this.
I’m sorry to say, but this is incorrect. Holland comes from Old Dutch “Holt/Hold Land”, which means wood land. You can still see this in the German word for wood: Holz. Holland used to have a giant ancient forest covering the region between The Hague & Alkmaar. Some city parks in these old cities still have parts of the forest incorporated into them, although the ancient trees are long gone sadly. But the Haarlemmer Hout & Haagse Bos are remnants of this ancient wood land.
Down in the Holler cookin up some moonshine gin
@@MLWitteman If you hadn't posted this I would have. You are totally correct.
@@mavadelo thank you ;)
Lowlands is a festival held in summer in the province of flevoland which was the last to be reclaimed for living.
Emma of Waldeck Pyrmond married King William III . Both Emma s parents were direct descendants of William IV and Anne of Great- Britain via their daughter Carolina of Orange-Nassau.
William IV had no legitimate children. He had ten illegitimate children with Dorothea Jordan. William’s wife’s name was not Anne.
Excellent job, very impressive!
Dutch and Deutsch (german) come from the same word (theudisk), meaning „from the people“ and referred to the language of the common people.
Princess Irene is not in the line of succession because she married without the approval of Parliament. It had nothing to do with marrying a Catholic. The Netherlands doesn't have the outdated rules that some other monarchies have.
She didn't get permission because her husband was aiming for the Spanish throne (which he never got), so if the marriage was approved Irene's children could potentially inherit the thrones of both the Netherlands and Spain and that was considered undesirable.
Main obstacle was she married the Carlist claiment to the Spanish throne at the time Franco still ruled Spain and the Bourbon claim of Juan Carlos was not solified yet.
You require the approval of Parliament to marry ... and that's not an outdated rule?!!! 🙄
As for why the Parliament did not approve: Are you sure her husband's religion played absolutely no role in the minds of the members of Parliament? I don't think so.
@@nHans it certainly playes SOME part, since her youngest sister also married a catholic without permission and was removed from the line of succesion too.
>not having outdated rules
>parliament approved royal marriages
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