I was JUST ABOUT to finalize my FIRST AI shortfilm ... and then Kling 1.6 came out. I I spent another 3000 credits re rolling my scenes. Soooooo glad I did. Thats what is so cool about AI. If you save your prompts and scene setups ... you can steady update your short stories and short films with each model improvement :)
Im finding that Kling has started remembering my previous image prompts and bringing them into completely new image to video prompts. Example, i put an image of a friend into it and asked it to turn him into father Christmas. A day later i put an image of my dog into kling and asked for father Christmas to pet him and it was my friend from a previous prompt.
Well, unfortunately that is the nature of tech right now. Early adopters take risks. Simple as that. For some, it's worth it (like me.) Others, it's not. Just depends on what you're up to, and how you're using the tool. And how willing your are to invest time and money into the tools, even if they aren't perfect yet...because let's face facts: even with the flaws, it's still all a freaking miracle.
@@BobDoyleMedia If I had $1140 for a Haliuo, I'd buy the unlimited. That's worth it because of unlimited. With images, sometimes it takes hundreds of generations to get what's wanted. I tried with Kling - the 400 free credits all used - just to get a globe spinning the direction I wanted.
Yeah, I mean for $10 I want a blockbuster movie.. AI is not for you dawg.. By the way, when you are hiring your crew let me know. I do P.A. work. Union pay rates of course. I have a hunch you will never ever get what you wanted though.
@@byronwade1204 Nope. Not blockbuster movie. Just like, dawg, what I want in the little clip. I understand how AI works. That's why I mentioned it often takes hundreds of generations to get what's wanted, and that doesn't work with the plans that aren't unlimited. It's why I look for open source, local models - that provides unlimited generations. Suno for music isn't bad even in limited. It returns, in a few generations, close enough. So far, the video generators don't. I can get my own coffee. I don't need a PA. I'm not making blockbusters.
Obviously, all that is subjective. There were several instances where I felt the 1.5 did a better job. My overall point was that they both do a great job in various ways. At the end of the day, Bigfoot is just plain fun. That’s what grandma always used to say.
My two cents on this is that AI developers are taking advantage of customers to finance their development which is totally legal but morally questionable. I feel an idiot now that I spent my money using 2 models that now are obsolete and have to render all over again. They should give for free all re renders from previous versions. Why? Because any other software or platform from before AI, you still can use. I still use Topaz 4 because I don’t like the outputs of 5 and 6. I still use after effects 2020, premiere 2021 and photoshop 2017. But with AI, it’s not the same. It’s too long to explain but you get the gist. Thanks for the video!
It's not questionable in my opinion. We all know what we're buying when we pay for it willingly. No one is making us buy anything. If you'd rather wait until the tech is perfect before you start using it, that's a choice - but personally, I'm happy to get my hands on it in ANY form. Also, the models are only "obsolete" if you suddenly hate their results. That's not the tech. That's your change of expectation. I also don't feel like they "should" have to give us anything. Again, we paid for the results we got, as they were the best we could get. Now that it's better, they suddenly owe us a bunch of free compute time ? What are a few examples that you can share of companies or solutions that do that where hard costs are involved? Suddenly EVERY subscriber to their platform basically re-runs all of the previous compute time - and maybe more for the advanced model - and the expectation is that they should just eat that cost? As much as that would be great, I don't feel like it's a reasonable expectation. Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment!
Thanks for the information regarding Kling 1.6 as it is quite helpful. I created a video using Kling 1.0 about three months ago ( th-cam.com/video/KCJySYXyKPk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rodZrFiwyLdEEzaI ) which I was generally happy despite some morphing and artifacts. I subsequently started working on another one in Kling 1.5 in Professional Mode, Image to Video, but gave up after a while as many of the generations were too dark with excessive contrast. I noticed in your comparisons that Kling 1.6 produces more natural contrast and realistic images so I will start using that now.
I was sorely disappointed when I tried Kling 1.6. What's the point in taking away the "End Image" feature? A lot of the serious work done in video generation is heavily reliant on the image to video technique. Image to Video without "End Image" feature is like driving a Corvette with only one gear.
I don't think about it as "taking away." I'm quite sure those features will be rolled out eventually. But in the meantime, we have BOTH models to choose from, and the 1.6 model clearly excels in some areas. I don't think they necessarily "owe" us all the features at one time. Personally, I'd rather them roll them out like this, rather than make us wait for everything at once. You're not paying any extra for 1.6, so I'm not sure what the problem is exactly when you can use both.
Kling is still behind many other video generation models. Kling has potential, but it might need more time and updates to catch up in terms of detail and fluid motion.
What? I have seen multiple comparisons and it's actually the other way around. Kling is also the best image to video model that I have used so far. Sure, it still makes many mistakes, but so do all the other models.
You may be right although I think “garbage“ is overstating it by more than just a bit. I haven’t gotten my hands on it yet though. But when I do, you know, I’ll be all over it. It looks amazing. I don’t know about what kind of control you have over I t’s output at this point compared to these other platforms, but it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
I was JUST ABOUT to finalize my FIRST AI shortfilm ... and then Kling 1.6 came out. I I spent another 3000 credits re rolling my scenes. Soooooo glad I did. Thats what is so cool about AI. If you save your prompts and scene setups ... you can steady update your short stories and short films with each model improvement :)
Very nice comparison. What tool do you use to do the starting images with your face in it?
Im finding that Kling has started remembering my previous image prompts and bringing them into completely new image to video prompts. Example, i put an image of a friend into it and asked it to turn him into father Christmas. A day later i put an image of my dog into kling and asked for father Christmas to pet him and it was my friend from a previous prompt.
Hi Bob. Which software you are using to create that punk cartoon version of yourself as a host?
Happy holidays
Hi, another great video, what's new in open source?
@@fulldivemedia Did you see yesterday’s video?
Marvelous demo. Thanks!
I have tried and tried Kling, but can't get what I want.
Imagine paying for this, using up all the credits for generations that aren't what's wanted.
Well, unfortunately that is the nature of tech right now. Early adopters take risks. Simple as that. For some, it's worth it (like me.) Others, it's not. Just depends on what you're up to, and how you're using the tool. And how willing your are to invest time and money into the tools, even if they aren't perfect yet...because let's face facts: even with the flaws, it's still all a freaking miracle.
@@BobDoyleMedia If I had $1140 for a Haliuo, I'd buy the unlimited. That's worth it because of unlimited.
With images, sometimes it takes hundreds of generations to get what's wanted.
I tried with Kling - the 400 free credits all used - just to get a globe spinning the direction I wanted.
Yeah, I mean for $10 I want a blockbuster movie.. AI is not for you dawg.. By the way, when you are hiring your crew let me know. I do P.A. work. Union pay rates of course. I have a hunch you will never ever get what you wanted though.
@@byronwade1204 Nope. Not blockbuster movie. Just like, dawg, what I want in the little clip.
I understand how AI works. That's why I mentioned it often takes hundreds of generations to get what's wanted, and that doesn't work with the plans that aren't unlimited.
It's why I look for open source, local models - that provides unlimited generations.
Suno for music isn't bad even in limited. It returns, in a few generations, close enough. So far, the video generators don't.
I can get my own coffee. I don't need a PA. I'm not making blockbusters.
@5:15 she is going 💩! LMAO 😂
I think the 1.5 Bigfoot was much more visually compelling than the 1.6
Obviously, all that is subjective. There were several instances where I felt the 1.5 did a better job. My overall point was that they both do a great job in various ways. At the end of the day, Bigfoot is just plain fun. That’s what grandma always used to say.
Kling 1.6 should allow users to use custom characters.
I'm sure it will eventually.
My two cents on this is that AI developers are taking advantage of customers to finance their development which is totally legal but morally questionable. I feel an idiot now that I spent my money using 2 models that now are obsolete and have to render all over again. They should give for free all re renders from previous versions. Why? Because any other software or platform from before AI, you still can use. I still use Topaz 4 because I don’t like the outputs of 5 and 6. I still use after effects 2020, premiere 2021 and photoshop 2017. But with AI, it’s not the same. It’s too long to explain but you get the gist. Thanks for the video!
It's not questionable in my opinion. We all know what we're buying when we pay for it willingly. No one is making us buy anything. If you'd rather wait until the tech is perfect before you start using it, that's a choice - but personally, I'm happy to get my hands on it in ANY form.
Also, the models are only "obsolete" if you suddenly hate their results. That's not the tech. That's your change of expectation.
I also don't feel like they "should" have to give us anything. Again, we paid for the results we got, as they were the best we could get. Now that it's better, they suddenly owe us a bunch of free compute time ?
What are a few examples that you can share of companies or solutions that do that where hard costs are involved?
Suddenly EVERY subscriber to their platform basically re-runs all of the previous compute time - and maybe more for the advanced model - and the expectation is that they should just eat that cost?
As much as that would be great, I don't feel like it's a reasonable expectation.
Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment!
Thanks for the information regarding Kling 1.6 as it is quite helpful. I created a video using Kling 1.0 about three months ago ( th-cam.com/video/KCJySYXyKPk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rodZrFiwyLdEEzaI ) which I was generally happy despite some morphing and artifacts. I subsequently started working on another one in Kling 1.5 in Professional Mode, Image to Video, but gave up after a while as many of the generations were too dark with excessive contrast. I noticed in your comparisons that Kling 1.6 produces more natural contrast and realistic images so I will start using that now.
I was sorely disappointed when I tried Kling 1.6. What's the point in taking away the "End Image" feature? A lot of the serious work done in video generation is heavily reliant on the image to video technique. Image to Video without "End Image" feature is like driving a Corvette with only one gear.
I don't think about it as "taking away." I'm quite sure those features will be rolled out eventually. But in the meantime, we have BOTH models to choose from, and the 1.6 model clearly excels in some areas. I don't think they necessarily "owe" us all the features at one time. Personally, I'd rather them roll them out like this, rather than make us wait for everything at once. You're not paying any extra for 1.6, so I'm not sure what the problem is exactly when you can use both.
Kling is still behind many other video generation models. Kling has potential, but it might need more time and updates to catch up in terms of detail and fluid motion.
What?
I have seen multiple comparisons and it's actually the other way around.
Kling is also the best image to video model that I have used so far.
Sure, it still makes many mistakes, but so do all the other models.
Kling has been doing better than Runway for me.
48 hours after I finished my short film, they released 1.6 🖕
1st comment .... Yeah .... Enjoy your channel
Thanks so much!
dude, after Veo2, all other models are just garbage.
Like you😊
You may be right although I think “garbage“ is overstating it by more than just a bit. I haven’t gotten my hands on it yet though. But when I do, you know, I’ll be all over it. It looks amazing. I don’t know about what kind of control you have over I t’s output at this point compared to these other platforms, but it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
@@BobDoyleMedia can't wait!