Not at the price. Im still buying credits on Kling - I dont want to commit to any subs for a few months because we just dont know who is going to come out on top. Kling is the best so far for what I need it for but that might change.
The current model that they are just released is Turbo from February of this year, which is why this feels outdated. I do think that Kling is much better value for the money.
I use both everyday! but Runway unlimited is also very powerful, I like that you can just generate multiple times, it has certain features and serves a purpose for me. Also turbo is so fast, I do 5 or 6 gens and one might be like wow, amazing. You do have to prompt everything...like blink eyes twice, hair lightly moving in the breeze, I mean if you don't say every facial movement they look like zombies sometimes😆 I don't know I'm a runway fan, I can get amazing results, they need to give me a discount😂
Man, how things change. I was all aboard team Runway months ago, (until I ran out of credits) and was quite critical of Kling and had moved to HaiLuo, but recently, I noticed my HaiLuo generations missing the mark a lot and Kling seems pretty great now. And WTF happened to Runway? 😅
Runway’s Gen-3 never changed at all. It’s been out for a while. Where as Kling and Hailuo came out just months ago. They’re probably working on a newer model now. Let’s see what happens to Runway Gen-4.
I agree with your assessments... some that you did not choose look substantially better... but are not as accurate to the prompt (which is what you're examining). Like... the water detail in the 1st shot with the alien guy... the water looked really good where as there was basically no water detail in the comparison vid. For me, I favor prompt accuracy over quality most of the time. I hate drilling on prompts for hours to get the right camera angle...
I've not used Sora yet, but IMHO Runway is currently the best overall option. Minimax was great but they ruined it with censorship. They check the inputs, the prompts, the generation while being generated, the output of the generation, a preliminary check and finally they have their human censors comb through every generation and will remove things by hand. It's crazy.
I still haven't accessed Sora yet haha. I prefer using Kling the most, as it feels like Kling understands the prompts and generates reasonable results. For me, saturated colors are a plus, I like it. There are so many tools now, so I just combine them when using hihi
Any recommendation to keep KLING not changing the exposure of the image reference on ImageToVideo? ... Always it tends to put the highlights to the max and shadows to very dark, and then there is no way to recover that, because it's a very compressed video file..
I think it's so funny that Sora won't sit still. I'm having the same trouble with ChatGPT. Like I have an array of 8 sets of steps with a basic 3 column chart below. Basically same format: 1 page repeat 8 times for different content [Steps, Chart]. It would do 2 or 3 of the 8 then begin deviating how it arranged the chart, the naming conventions for the steps. I ran out of time using 4o just getting the thing to sit still with keywords and reminders. I joked on another channel that it was too much like Stuart from MadTV, "Look what I can do!". HOLD STILL!! LOL JUST DO WHAT I ASKED! In video, I would want my prompting to guide the video exposure, color, and motion. Thanks Tao!! :D. (From a distance Minimax / Hailuo is my fav)
In these types of videos, I hear some really funny things. There’s no tool with which we can compare Sora’s capabilities. The camera movements are much more dynamic, and the colors and imagination are on an entirely different level. People who make these kinds of comparisons usually aren’t trained in cinema. Was something similar to what Shy Kids created ever done in Kling or Runway? I tried to recreate many of Sora’s showcase videos with Runway and Kling. Kling couldn’t even come close. Kling still shows distortions here and there. Sometimes the texture is good, sometimes it’s not. I haven’t encountered such issues with Sora. So far, I’ve made over 10,000 videos with these tools. What I’ve observed during this process is that each tool has a particular prompt structure it can understand. You can learn this structure over time. I tried this prompt on Runway, then on Kling. These are unreasonable comparisons. They both operate with different prompt structures.
Anyone have an opinion on Kling’s subscription and customer support? Been hearing some nightmare stories from people trying to cancel their subscriptions and Kling not cancelling while customer support being impossible to contact.
I emailed Kling customer support twice but they never replied. Go figure. Took out a 1 month subscription which they did honour though and it was cancelled automatically at the end as promised. The product was however quite good and would use them again.
It would be nice to understand which model based on learning actually generates such a thing that does not exist on earth and that man has not invented. I tried to create such a thing, and somehow I succeeded. The background became very colorful with incredible nature. Kling does it and the minimax reminds me of 90's movies. From what I've seen, SORA is not very stable. There are artifacts that happen. Thank you very much.
Runway was a big disappointment for me, and I would burn through my credits, trying to get a good render. I just started using Hailuo, and it does a great job with character movements. With all the hype, SoRA is not looking that impressive, especially the price.
I am puzzled why no one else wants an AI video generator that can actually generate "videos" rather than bizarre snippets that will, IF YOU ARE LUCKY, almost slightly resemble the prior snippet. All of these are horrible. And I've been a subscriber to two of these for many months. edit: THAT SAID, this channel is great. Just wish someone would stop with the ten/twenty second BS and make a VIDEO generator.
People heap praise on Sora because they take a few parts that are good, but that is the case with all models. Yet it's still being hyped, it's not even 3rd, honestly value wise and using image to video even Runway is better at $100 for my needs. Each model for me serves a purpose. I use Kling, Minimax, Runway, Luma and Vidu, they all serve a different purpose and each one has its strength and weakness. I will use Sora for bits and pieces, it's a great addition to the $20 tier for sure, but $200? No way...even with the other added ChatGPT features? no way, only a certain few will get value out of that, it's a tiny percentage. At $200 they get a certain # of subs, at $100 they would 3x that or more....they are leaving $$$ on the table, why? at $100 it would overload servers...so I think it's a capacity thing, the $200 version will drop to $100 once capacity is able to handle it, they may keep pro and just give you more video gens. By the way you have some of the best comparison videos on TH-cam🙂
What do you think, was Sora worth the wait?
Not at the price. Im still buying credits on Kling - I dont want to commit to any subs for a few months because we just dont know who is going to come out on top. Kling is the best so far for what I need it for but that might change.
The current model that they are just released is Turbo from February of this year, which is why this feels outdated. I do think that Kling is much better value for the money.
nop, sora is really bad, kling still the king ! a near is hailuo
Naaah Kling ai pro is better for its free also...
Nope it’s terrible after all that hype lol
You’ve just saved me $200-thank you so much!
Kling and Minimax for the win!
I use both everyday! but Runway unlimited is also very powerful, I like that you can just generate multiple times, it has certain features and serves a purpose for me. Also turbo is so fast, I do 5 or 6 gens and one might be like wow, amazing. You do have to prompt everything...like blink eyes twice, hair lightly moving in the breeze, I mean if you don't say every facial movement they look like zombies sometimes😆 I don't know I'm a runway fan, I can get amazing results, they need to give me a discount😂
Man, how things change.
I was all aboard team Runway months ago, (until I ran out of credits) and was quite critical of Kling and had moved to HaiLuo, but recently, I noticed my HaiLuo generations missing the mark a lot and Kling seems pretty great now.
And WTF happened to Runway? 😅
Runway’s Gen-3 never changed at all. It’s been out for a while. Where as Kling and Hailuo came out just months ago. They’re probably working on a newer model now.
Let’s see what happens to Runway Gen-4.
Your videos are not boring and easy to understand. I subbed ! Keep up the great content
Another great video, thank you Tao 💥
I agree with your assessments... some that you did not choose look substantially better... but are not as accurate to the prompt (which is what you're examining). Like... the water detail in the 1st shot with the alien guy... the water looked really good where as there was basically no water detail in the comparison vid. For me, I favor prompt accuracy over quality most of the time. I hate drilling on prompts for hours to get the right camera angle...
Vidu and Minimax for the win
Minimax is still the best! Runway is okay for image to video but I feel minimax is in the lead so far
Hi, thank you for the video content and for the audio track in French.
Ive learnt so much from your video bro
Awesome to hear that man! This channel is all about helping people learn about Ai 👍
I've not used Sora yet, but IMHO Runway is currently the best overall option. Minimax was great but they ruined it with censorship. They check the inputs, the prompts, the generation while being generated, the output of the generation, a preliminary check and finally they have their human censors comb through every generation and will remove things by hand. It's crazy.
How about hailuo?
That cant be true. They might have 10s of 1000s of users? 😂
What does Runway do better then Kling?
Or is Runway less censored than Kling?
@@Gardener7 Runway wont let u use celebs? Its can keep faces good but seems to do a lot in a weird slow motion
@fingydinks1207 I just tried to create an account with Runway, but it's not working.
Seems like their website is broken.
I still haven't accessed Sora yet haha. I prefer using Kling the most, as it feels like Kling understands the prompts and generates reasonable results. For me, saturated colors are a plus, I like it. There are so many tools now, so I just combine them when using hihi
You paid 200
Please sora prompts guide🙏
Any recommendation to keep KLING not changing the exposure of the image reference on ImageToVideo? ... Always it tends to put the highlights to the max and shadows to very dark, and then there is no way to recover that, because it's a very compressed video file..
I suggest you use the negative prompt, maybe that will help.
Sticking with Kling for now.
I love kling. Had it for 1 week so far
I think it's so funny that Sora won't sit still. I'm having the same trouble with ChatGPT. Like I have an array of 8 sets of steps with a basic 3 column chart below. Basically same format: 1 page repeat 8 times for different content [Steps, Chart]. It would do 2 or 3 of the 8 then begin deviating how it arranged the chart, the naming conventions for the steps. I ran out of time using 4o just getting the thing to sit still with keywords and reminders. I joked on another channel that it was too much like Stuart from MadTV, "Look what I can do!". HOLD STILL!! LOL JUST DO WHAT I ASKED! In video, I would want my prompting to guide the video exposure, color, and motion. Thanks Tao!! :D. (From a distance Minimax / Hailuo is my fav)
In these types of videos, I hear some really funny things. There’s no tool with which we can compare Sora’s capabilities. The camera movements are much more dynamic, and the colors and imagination are on an entirely different level. People who make these kinds of comparisons usually aren’t trained in cinema.
Was something similar to what Shy Kids created ever done in Kling or Runway? I tried to recreate many of Sora’s showcase videos with Runway and Kling. Kling couldn’t even come close. Kling still shows distortions here and there. Sometimes the texture is good, sometimes it’s not. I haven’t encountered such issues with Sora.
So far, I’ve made over 10,000 videos with these tools. What I’ve observed during this process is that each tool has a particular prompt structure it can understand. You can learn this structure over time. I tried this prompt on Runway, then on Kling. These are unreasonable comparisons. They both operate with different prompt structures.
@@MuhammedErin-bb7fy You do have a very good point. Each one of those tools required different prompting.
@@dasberlinlex any tips for kling?
this man has CAPCUT WATERMARKS on his videos... 😂
It happens from time to time that this option appears on its own, so you end up being caught by surprise after posting the video, it happened to me!
Merci
vid2vid seems fire on Sora
I'll be trying out all their features!
@@taoprompts Awesome, mate. Can't wait to check your next vid!
@@taopromptsvid to vid looks the best 😊
Why did the muscular aliens look so alike?
Anyone have an opinion on Kling’s subscription and customer support? Been hearing some nightmare stories from people trying to cancel their subscriptions and Kling not cancelling while customer support being impossible to contact.
I emailed Kling customer support twice but they never replied. Go figure. Took out a 1 month subscription which they did honour though and it was cancelled automatically at the end as promised. The product was however quite good and would use them again.
It would be nice to understand which model based on learning actually generates such a thing that does not exist on earth and that man has not invented. I tried to create such a thing, and somehow I succeeded. The background became very colorful with incredible nature. Kling does it and the minimax reminds me of 90's movies. From what I've seen, SORA is not very stable. There are artifacts that happen. Thank you very much.
Runway was a big disappointment for me, and I would burn through my credits, trying to get a good render. I just started using Hailuo, and it does a great job with character movements. With all the hype, SoRA is not looking that impressive, especially the price.
Please do pika 2
In hailuo, it is difficult to get a long video
Try this: make a video and make a screenshot from the last frame.
I am puzzled why no one else wants an AI video generator that can actually generate "videos" rather than bizarre snippets that will, IF YOU ARE LUCKY, almost slightly resemble the prior snippet. All of these are horrible. And I've been a subscriber to two of these for many months.
edit: THAT SAID, this channel is great. Just wish someone would stop with the ten/twenty second BS and make a VIDEO generator.
Bro I'm French, it's nice to have thought about translating your videos into several languages 🙏
SORA is by far the biggest AI disappointment of 2024...overhyped, too expensive, piss poor results! RIP SORA🤮
There's room for improvement! Sometimes it takes a while to figure out the best way to use a platform
I agree
I think GTA 6 will same with Sora
Kling ai is batter
Not even close lol not when it comes to photo reality, which is my biggest plus.
Lol they waited 9 months only to come in 2nd or 3rd 😂
You create some great work bro. This video is a result of following your excellent demos: th-cam.com/video/aQCFMcoLTvg/w-d-xo.html
1st ... 🎉 You dropped your pin, can I take it? 🥺❤
💌 thanks for the love!
hunyuan is really good and better than sora
You must be delusional to think Flopra is the best
Клинг и МиниМакс лучшие. Еще и бесплатнеы оба китайские. А не эти стремные американские продукты
Sora is pretty bad, I have to generate 20 videos just to get 1 usable one.
I was expecting something else from sora
Let's see if they make some adjustments based on our feedback 👍
People heap praise on Sora because they take a few parts that are good, but that is the case with all models. Yet it's still being hyped, it's not even 3rd, honestly value wise and using image to video even Runway is better at $100 for my needs. Each model for me serves a purpose. I use Kling, Minimax, Runway, Luma and Vidu, they all serve a different purpose and each one has its strength and weakness.
I will use Sora for bits and pieces, it's a great addition to the $20 tier for sure, but $200? No way...even with the other added ChatGPT features? no way, only a certain few will get value out of that, it's a tiny percentage. At $200 they get a certain # of subs, at $100 they would 3x that or more....they are leaving $$$ on the table, why? at $100 it would overload servers...so I think it's a capacity thing, the $200 version will drop to $100 once capacity is able to handle it, they may keep pro and just give you more video gens. By the way you have some of the best comparison videos on TH-cam🙂