It is a wonderfully flexible instrument. I love to listen to band music that uses the full capability of all the brass instruments. Drum Corps usually do a good job of this, as do some of the better college bands. Look up "jacksonville state angels among us". It is amazing.
Thank you for this video. I have been playing since 2016 and your video helped me achieve the two top register notes that have eluded me for a long time. I'm learning Symphonic Variants by James Curnow, and you're video is going to make it happen now. I have enjoyed your videos and your teaching style.
Thank you for this video, I’m learning Oregon(Jacob de Haan) for the band and there’s a lot of high A(G in bass clef) and I’ve been struggling to play them, the tips you gave will surely help me
Thank you. My baritone horn-playing days ended when I graduated High School in the late 1970s but the struggles we all had straining for those high notes in the second movement of Three From The Hills makes me still wish I possessed the knowledge and technique to play them. There were four of us in our section and we each hit four separate notes going for our solo; the upper classman being the only one to actually reach the correct note. When we played this in a concert, we all laughed because the sound was horrendous. It's funny to think back at this but how wonderful it would have been if we made that solo sing.
Thanks David. While I understand how this method can be effective what I would like to know is how to use the method in a practice routine lets says I want to work on increasing my range and not just maintaining range do you get to the register or scale that is a challenge then keep attempting it or drop down to the one a tone lower. How long should your developing range practice last and how many repeats do you attempt at each scale. I hope I have made my question clear and maybe it might be best answered with another video. Thanks for the great videos you are producing.
For maintaining my range, I typically just use the 2-octave scales during my warmup (after I have my chops feeling a little comfortable). I might start with a scale from low F to F above the bass clef (G below the treble to G on top of the treble staff). I start there to set a "model" for myself, and I try to hold the top note a few beats, and make it vibrant. Then I move the scale up a half step and do the same thing. I keep moving to my top "solid" note. Most days I try to increase the range beyond my comfortable notes. I will go 1 or 2 half steps higher. Increasing takes a long, steady effort, and that is where I fall short many days. However, I don't think I have yet found the limit of my high range, even at my age, and I will keep working at it. With any skill, including tonguing, volume/projection, etc. one needs to "stretch" a bit each day in order to improve. And once improvement happens, then the maintenance process needs to include the new limits. In my own case, I have sometimes stretched a skill, like tonguing, for a particular event and then let it slide. That is only because I have limited practice time and many things to work on. Ideally, we would hang onto any new skill/limit by steady maintenance!
Beautiful! Just wanna ask: When playing Baritone Tutor, does the Learner transpose the Keys indicated, or just plays the keys as given in the Exercises? Just confused - and have been having different opinions. Some say a Baritonist only transposes when playing with other Instruments, while others think otherwise. Your responses will be greatly appreciated, pls.
If the notes are in treble clef, you play them the way a trumpet player would. C is played open in any octave. If you are playing in bass clef, a written Bb is played open in any octave. Does that help?
@@dwerden Thanks loads for giving me attention, Sir. What I can understand from your reply is that if the music is composed on Treble Clef, then I have to transpose. But if composed on Bass Clef, I don't have to. Would that be right, Sir?
My biggest problem is just that i have the range on baritone but not trombone. I'm playing a piece where i have to jump from high e to high db and i can hit it almost effortlessly on my baritone but i crack it every time i play it on trombone lmao
i’m playing in a tuba euphonium quartet and i struggle with good tone on high notes, which is most of what i have in the piece we are playing. god i pray this helps 😭😭
Thanks for this going to try it in my practice, for some reason I am having problems with b flat above the stave (treble clef) it's very fuzzy like the note can't be hit properly can't understand why either as it's not a note I have had problems with previously.
Well first check your instrument to see if there are any problems, then check the mouthpiece to see if you’re comfortable with that one or if you’ll need to change for another one. If it’s not the former it’s you. Just practice better air control and not squeezing out the notes.
How much do you think the quality of the instrument being played influences the tone and sound of the note. I am playing a cheap 4 valve compensating euphonium and although the sound and quality of my upper register is getting better it sounds tinny above TC B flat and I'm struggling to improve.
A really poorly-made horn, or one in need of repair, can affect your sound in various ways. However, if your horn is one of the Jin Bao clones (or similar) it is probably not the main problem. Keep in mind... Even among professional horns, a different brand can make playing easier and can shape your tone to some extent. My advice is to have someone who is an experience player try your horn. If it seems OK, then just work on these exercises! Remember the basic idea: start with a good tone, crescendo on the way up while maintaining a full tone.
I use the Comfy Euph Strap, and it's great! It makes it much more relaxing to hold the horn. You can learn about it here: www.dwerden.com/forum/showthread.php/22203-Euphonium-Hand-Strap-quot-Comfy-Euph-Strap-quot
Hey Dave have a question so I play on a Bach 5G and the rim size of the mouthpiece is breath but the cup is too big and i feel like when I’m playing I don’t have enough air and I feel that I should move to a more shallower cup with a good size rim know any mouthpieces and also what are some techniques for breathing?
That's a bit too complex to answer here. Please join my website's forum and ask the question there. I'll try to chime in, but we have a lot of experienced players on the forum. www.dwerden.com/forum/forum.php
Watch the Andy Griffith Show episode about Aunt Bee's Pickles, called "The Pickle Story." Everyone hates her pickles, even though the love her. The final line, as I recall, is "[We have to] learn to love 'em!" Even screech trumpet players play low notes (well into their pedal range). There are many benefits!
@@dwerden Hello, thanks for the important video. It says in the mouthpiece description (at Amazon) that the Denis Wick 4AL is for both Euphonium and for trombone, but I read in the Web that they are not the same, as the Euphonium mouthpiece is larger, deeper cup, and different shank sizes, so will the Denis Wick 4AL be fit for me? thanks.
@@ilank43 I know I'm not Mr. Werden, but picking the right mouthpiece is really up to you, everyone is different... You can use the most famous player's mouthpiece if it's not fit for you. You should be trying and find out which is the best, and judge just one mouthpiece is about a month, but for sure not an instant recognition
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"Little fuzzy" *continues to have amazing tone*
The sound you playing is elegant.I watch your video with my daughter who is a euphonium starter. It is a wonderful experience
I'd like to say I'm in 8th grade and this video has helped me out, thank you!
It is a wonderfully flexible instrument. I love to listen to band music that uses the full capability of all the brass instruments. Drum Corps usually do a good job of this, as do some of the better college bands. Look up "jacksonville state angels among us". It is amazing.
How is everything going?
This is very encouraging! I've discovered that I'm actually doing better than I am giving myself credit for! Thanks, Dave!
Thank you so much for posting this. I've been struggling with this for ages and this is really helpful.
Excellent video. Thank you!
Thanks Dave for another great video
Thank you for the video and tips! Always appreciate your videos and perspective to take with me to the practice session
Thank you thank you for this!
Really helpful. Thank you very much for taking the time to make and post this video.
Thanks, Dave!
Thank you for this video. I have been playing since 2016 and your video helped me achieve the two top register notes that have eluded me for a long time. I'm learning Symphonic Variants by James Curnow, and you're video is going to make it happen now. I have enjoyed your videos and your teaching style.
Thank you for this video, I’m learning Oregon(Jacob de Haan) for the band and there’s a lot of high A(G in bass clef) and I’ve been struggling to play them, the tips you gave will surely help me
The oregon doesn't require you to blow?
Thank you. My baritone horn-playing days ended when I graduated High School in the late 1970s but the struggles we all had straining for those high notes in the second movement of Three From The Hills makes me still wish I possessed the knowledge and technique to play them. There were four of us in our section and we each hit four separate notes going for our solo; the upper classman being the only one to actually reach the correct note. When we played this in a concert, we all laughed because the sound was horrendous. It's funny to think back at this but how wonderful it would have been if we made that solo sing.
Thanks Dave
Awesome. !!!!
I need to hit my 3rd octave Bb in bass clef.
Also, I have a question, are there mouth pieces that do better with certain lip shapes?
Ralyssa Enueshike the best thing to do is test mouthpieces and find what you doing best on!
Thanks David. While I understand how this method can be effective what I would like to know is how to use the method in a practice routine lets says I want to work on increasing my range and not just maintaining range do you get to the register or scale that is a challenge then keep attempting it or drop down to the one a tone lower. How long should your developing range practice last and how many repeats do you attempt at each scale. I hope I have made my question clear and maybe it might be best answered with another video. Thanks for the great videos you are producing.
For maintaining my range, I typically just use the 2-octave scales during my warmup (after I have my chops feeling a little comfortable). I might start with a scale from low F to F above the bass clef (G below the treble to G on top of the treble staff). I start there to set a "model" for myself, and I try to hold the top note a few beats, and make it vibrant. Then I move the scale up a half step and do the same thing. I keep moving to my top "solid" note.
Most days I try to increase the range beyond my comfortable notes. I will go 1 or 2 half steps higher. Increasing takes a long, steady effort, and that is where I fall short many days. However, I don't think I have yet found the limit of my high range, even at my age, and I will keep working at it. With any skill, including tonguing, volume/projection, etc. one needs to "stretch" a bit each day in order to improve. And once improvement happens, then the maintenance process needs to include the new limits. In my own case, I have sometimes stretched a skill, like tonguing, for a particular event and then let it slide. That is only because I have limited practice time and many things to work on. Ideally, we would hang onto any new skill/limit by steady maintenance!
Beautiful!
Just wanna ask: When playing Baritone Tutor, does the Learner transpose the Keys indicated, or just plays the keys as given in the Exercises?
Just confused - and have been having different opinions. Some say a Baritonist only transposes when playing with other Instruments, while others think otherwise.
Your responses will be greatly appreciated, pls.
If the notes are in treble clef, you play them the way a trumpet player would. C is played open in any octave. If you are playing in bass clef, a written Bb is played open in any octave. Does that help?
@@dwerden Thanks loads for giving me attention, Sir. What I can understand from your reply is that if the music is composed on Treble Clef, then I have to transpose. But if composed on Bass Clef, I don't have to. Would that be right, Sir?
@@kelauwadibad9183 treble clef you would read as trumpet player would bass you would play as a tuba player would
My biggest problem is just that i have the range on baritone but not trombone. I'm playing a piece where i have to jump from high e to high db and i can hit it almost effortlessly on my baritone but i crack it every time i play it on trombone lmao
i’m playing in a tuba euphonium quartet and i struggle with good tone on high notes, which is most of what i have in the piece we are playing. god i pray this helps 😭😭
did it ?
Thanks for this going to try it in my practice, for some reason I am having problems with b flat above the stave (treble clef) it's very fuzzy like the note can't be hit properly can't understand why either as it's not a note I have had problems with previously.
Well first check your instrument to see if there are any problems, then check the mouthpiece to see if you’re comfortable with that one or if you’ll need to change for another one. If it’s not the former it’s you. Just practice better air control and not squeezing out the notes.
How much do you think the quality of the instrument being played influences the tone and sound of the note. I am playing a cheap 4 valve compensating euphonium and although the sound and quality of my upper register is getting better it sounds tinny above TC B flat and I'm struggling to improve.
A really poorly-made horn, or one in need of repair, can affect your sound in various ways. However, if your horn is one of the Jin Bao clones (or similar) it is probably not the main problem. Keep in mind... Even among professional horns, a different brand can make playing easier and can shape your tone to some extent. My advice is to have someone who is an experience player try your horn. If it seems OK, then just work on these exercises! Remember the basic idea: start with a good tone, crescendo on the way up while maintaining a full tone.
Great video! I wanna know, what do u use in your left hand?
I use the Comfy Euph Strap, and it's great! It makes it much more relaxing to hold the horn. You can learn about it here: www.dwerden.com/forum/showthread.php/22203-Euphonium-Hand-Strap-quot-Comfy-Euph-Strap-quot
@@dwerden thanks a lot ! u helped me so much.
Why does he remind me of the guy from Taken.
Hey Dave have a question so I play on a Bach 5G and the rim size of the mouthpiece is breath but the cup is too big and i feel like when I’m playing I don’t have enough air and I feel that I should move to a more shallower cup with a good size rim know any mouthpieces and also what are some techniques for breathing?
That's a bit too complex to answer here. Please join my website's forum and ask the question there. I'll try to chime in, but we have a lot of experienced players on the forum. www.dwerden.com/forum/forum.php
That eB is like a laser beam, I do not understand why you discount it.
2:51 (for me) 8:08 4:08
Playing low notes on my euphonium is a pain in the ass
Watch the Andy Griffith Show episode about Aunt Bee's Pickles, called "The Pickle Story." Everyone hates her pickles, even though the love her. The final line, as I recall, is "[We have to] learn to love 'em!"
Even screech trumpet players play low notes (well into their pedal range). There are many benefits!
I like the optimism! :)
I was wondering what kind of mouthpiece you use?
I use a Denis Wick 4AL.
@@dwerden Hello, thanks for the important video. It says in the mouthpiece description (at Amazon) that the Denis Wick 4AL is for both Euphonium and for trombone, but I read in the Web that they are not the same, as the Euphonium mouthpiece is larger, deeper cup, and different shank sizes, so will the Denis Wick 4AL be fit for me? thanks.
@@ilank43 I know I'm not Mr. Werden, but picking the right mouthpiece is really up to you, everyone is different... You can use the most famous player's mouthpiece if it's not fit for you. You should be trying and find out which is the best, and judge just one mouthpiece is about a month, but for sure not an instant recognition