We started out mowing with tractor, and crushing with another. Dad bought a mower that could pull the crusher, handling two passes at the same time. That was replaced by a haybine to replace the mower and crusher. Always baled with a NH baler. That 68 looks familiar. Baler was always pulled by our Oliver 77, because it had live PTO. Good memories.
There are still some 68 being used in the field. The 68 was indeed a revolutionary breakthrough in field pickup balers. We ahd one and it performed beautifully.
I learned all the cuss words around baler knotters, two different brands. Baling hay is a rain magnet and always hoping you can get the hay in before it all gets wet... and then the knotters go on the fritz.
Me too man, my Daddy would've whooped the tar outta me for running our tractors that fast. Well, we didn't have equipment good enough to run that fast anyway, that J.D. 214W was wore out years before we got it, and constantly working on it, but when it did bale, it was fine.
yes I can remember the old hay balers they didn't have a auto kicker on them if U didn't have a hay wagon behind the baler U had 2 pick up every bale by hand and throw on the hay wagon then some 1 still had 2 stack the hay on the wagon then U still 2 had 2 put in the barn OMG 12 24 2O22
Oh, yes, they work great...unless your the guy in the trailer stacking them huge bales. How do I know? You got it, I was the guy. All day long for two weeks After you get the trailer stacked, its off to the hay loft where you sling them damn bales onto an elevator and then into the loft, oh, yes fun fun fun, let me tell you, at the end of the day, your not ready to party.
I hauled hay commercially, had 3 hay-trucks, 3 Kneib loaders, averaged 130,000 bales a summer if the year was decent, some years only hauled 70,000. After 23 years of hauling, had to quit, could not find hands that would work, and my shoulders gave out on me. It made me a living, I never found hauling hay was that hard myself, just another job to me. I only was around an elevator 2 times, 1 farmer had some tall barns, and the other was Okla. City Zoo, man I hauled heaps of alfalfa and prairie grass up there. Huge barns, and the smell was the worst thing. I started to buy another truck a few years back, new loader and all, and I ran ads in the newspaper, online, and I got plenty of calls, but once they found out what they had to do, they didn't want the job, so I just quit. Figured I'd drive the one truck, hire 2 people, and teach them, and pay them above going hand price, but those days are gone.
That's good equipment. The baler we worked with in Michigan in the 1970s was much slower. A lot of the farmers in the 1970s were using tractors from the 30s and 40s, and old equipment, at least the small farmers in the 1950s could not have afford new farm equipment. This makes it look easy, but it sure wasnt. Some of the farmers were still using small round balers, even. The Leubben roto baler was still around in the 70s. Snakes used to sleep in the bales and go up your arm when you picked them
Back in the 60's thru the 90's we used a JD 14T small square baler. Most small rounds were rare in my area by the 70's. Never had a snake problem in Michigan. We picked them all up that night if they were dropped in the field. We used pickup trucks to load if we couldn't load behind the wagon and at night, (beer and pop was cold). Usually held back to 15 - 16 tiers on the wagons. Stacked to 19 once, but raising the power lines was a bit scary even though the bales and tires were insulators. And the top 4 or 5 tiers were tapered, LOL. If it was rocky on the way to the barn, don't stack to high because loading twice sucks. Cleaning up broken bales makes it suck even more.
@@Alwis-Haph-Rytte you can haul 72 bales or so on a pickup if you know how too stack them most people don’t know or wouldn’t believe that lol everything you said I can relate too…grew up on a farm in West Virginia
There heavy duty ballers are ok. Their lighter ones are not. I prefer Deere, so fix it again Tony can't molest me when I buy parts. Seriously, fiat sucks. They gouge the he'll out of their customers.
My dad had an old sickle bar Oliver mower way back in the mid 1970's. In Western Washington, the constant rains can make the grass lay over some. This made the finger bar glide right over the grass and sometimes leave a lot behind. He sold it around summer of 1977 or 78.
Does anyone know what year the haybines became popular. I don't remember them before 1970. Owatonna self propelled were popular before haybines in my area in the 1960s.
There's a 166 self propelled baler in a shed in Roswell NM; visible from the road I was on. I have the chance of picking up a 68 before it heads to the auction.
I may only be 35 years old but I bale 50 acers a year with a 630 nh round baler and a model 69 square baler old but in good shape and only misses 1 in A hundred
630s had an issue with starting the bale. Most didnt know you need to " weld " the pin in on the side of the baler which releases the tension on the belts. Much easier to start with the pin in !
There's a reason the only place you ever saw a NH mower was in the junk pile in the old days. If your cutting just grass the new ones aren't much better
Yes, most of them are - with the NH's 56 Rake you could tighten or loosen the hay by changing the pitch of the raking assembly with the ground, and or going faster (looser) or slower (tighter). These are 7-foot mower cut swats, and not very tall hay. Also "loose" swats would make them dry faster. One clip is run faster I suspect as the hay pickup is running much faster than I would expect (which could exceed the specs, or stress the plunger drive arm (or they did run the engine much faster then designed). Depending on the baler model, the plunger gearbox was geared differently for higher capacity baler (i.e. they ran faster). The 68 baler was a low capacity baler (which was high then), as tractors were not that powerful. NH compensated by making balers that were very easy to run, roller bearings on everything that moved except the needles that had bushings. I used to assemble NH for my parents, who were/are farmers and sold NH on the sides since no one else sold NH in my part of the country. I demoed the machinery to fellow farmers back in the early sixties. I wanted to become a NH engineer but ended up at Ford! Ciao, L
Crushing the stem cut drying time in half. Reduces feed deterioration drying longer in the sun and reduces chance for a rain to damage the feed when you bake a day or two sooner after cutting.
We started out mowing with tractor, and crushing with another. Dad bought a mower that could pull the crusher, handling two passes at the same time. That was replaced by a haybine to replace the mower and crusher. Always baled with a NH baler. That 68 looks familiar. Baler was always pulled by our Oliver 77, because it had live PTO. Good memories.
Are you trying to say crimper or what are you calling a crusher
I called it working my as* off !!! Being a teenager was a lot of different things in the 60s!!!!2022
That little self-propelled baler is pretty neat.
There are still some 68 being used in the field. The 68 was indeed a revolutionary breakthrough in field pickup balers. We ahd one and it performed beautifully.
As far as I know their parts are no longer supported by new Holland. (68 only)
The fella that invented the knotter was a genius
crazy how this was posted 10 years ago
I learned all the cuss words around baler knotters, two different brands. Baling hay is a rain magnet and always hoping you can get the hay in before it all gets wet... and then the knotters go on the fritz.
I had a model 268 a few years ago. The paint wasn't even worn off the feeder house! Made perfect bales after I "tuned up" the knotter!
I was the baler driver starting at 9 years old, if I drove that fast I would have gotten wooped.
Me too man, my Daddy would've whooped the tar outta me for running our tractors that fast. Well, we didn't have equipment good enough to run that fast anyway, that J.D. 214W was wore out years before we got it, and constantly working on it, but when it did bale, it was fine.
yes I can remember the old hay balers they didn't have a auto kicker on them if U didn't have a hay wagon behind the baler U had 2 pick up every bale by hand and throw on the hay wagon then some 1 still had 2 stack the hay on the wagon then U still 2 had 2 put in the barn OMG 12 24 2O22
New Holland still makes balers very similar. That model was superb.
The model just before the hay liner was a piece of junk
when farms were still...farms..
When I was a kid we baled with a nh super 77 pulled by a fork 641. Then a nh 66 pulled by an ih h. A friend has a pto drive nh 77.
we use to have a hay liner 78 a friend of my grand pop bout it new in 58
We had a IH 430 with a kicker that I used until 91 [Usually baled around 7000 40lb bales .
I grew up with some of this equipment.
Like this vintage film
Oh, yes, they work great...unless your the guy in the trailer stacking them huge bales. How do I know? You got it, I was the guy. All day long for two weeks After you get the trailer stacked, its off to the hay loft where you sling them damn bales onto an elevator and then into the loft, oh, yes fun fun fun, let me tell you, at the end of the day, your not ready to party.
That was a typical hay baling day. Hot and dirty. Been there and done it for years.
Me too!! Stack wagons and the loft too. 15 or so loads per day, 120 bales per load.
Didn't have the energy to get into trouble like some of the kids today. Been there, done that! LOL
I hauled hay commercially, had 3 hay-trucks, 3 Kneib loaders, averaged 130,000 bales a summer if the year was decent, some years only hauled 70,000. After 23 years of hauling, had to quit, could not find hands that would work, and my shoulders gave out on me. It made me a living, I never found hauling hay was that hard myself, just another job to me. I only was around an elevator 2 times, 1 farmer had some tall barns, and the other was Okla. City Zoo, man I hauled heaps of alfalfa and prairie grass up there. Huge barns, and the smell was the worst thing. I started to buy another truck a few years back, new loader and all, and I ran ads in the newspaper, online, and I got plenty of calls, but once they found out what they had to do, they didn't want the job, so I just quit. Figured I'd drive the one truck, hire 2 people, and teach them, and pay them above going hand price, but those days are gone.
That's good equipment. The baler we worked with in Michigan in the 1970s was much slower. A lot of the farmers in the 1970s were using tractors from the 30s and 40s, and old equipment, at least the small farmers in the 1950s could not have afford new farm equipment. This makes it look easy, but it sure wasnt. Some of the farmers were still using small round balers, even. The Leubben roto baler was still around in the 70s. Snakes used to sleep in the bales and go up your arm when you picked them
YIKES!
Back in the 60's thru the 90's we used a JD 14T small square baler. Most small rounds were rare in my area by the 70's. Never had a snake problem in Michigan. We picked them all up that night if they were dropped in the field. We used pickup trucks to load if we couldn't load behind the wagon and at night, (beer and pop was cold). Usually held back to 15 - 16 tiers on the wagons. Stacked to 19 once, but raising the power lines was a bit scary even though the bales and tires were insulators. And the top 4 or 5 tiers were tapered, LOL. If it was rocky on the way to the barn, don't stack to high because loading twice sucks. Cleaning up broken bales makes it suck even more.
@@Alwis-Haph-Rytte you can haul 72 bales or so on a pickup if you know how too stack them most people don’t know or wouldn’t believe that lol everything you said I can relate too…grew up on a farm in West Virginia
@@Caleb-fo9zx And if clever, a single rope over the top to hold them all down.
Still the best balers on the market today, bar none.
ianBeer123 I prefer Freeman balers
There heavy duty ballers are ok. Their lighter ones are not. I prefer Deere, so fix it again Tony can't molest me when I buy parts. Seriously, fiat sucks. They gouge the he'll out of their customers.
Other than move the twine box the good old Hayliner hasn't changed much
nice fingerbar mower far better than them big rotaries the cut far to.low fingerbar leaves.a nice sole of grass.that starts growing back again quick
My dad had an old sickle bar Oliver mower way back in the mid 1970's. In Western Washington, the constant rains can make the grass lay over some. This made the finger bar glide right over the grass and sometimes leave a lot behind. He sold it around summer of 1977 or 78.
I remember baling hay with a 2cyl wisconsin.
I was always the poor sucker on the wagon, don’t miss it at all.
My dad and I would trade places after each load. Drive a load, load a load. We averaged 1,000 bakes a day.
Like to know how they baled hay without dust.For me baling was always a dirty job.
bear in mind new holland werent making tractors they were ford and fiat before that, and they were also seperate companys
I had a super 78 hay liner p t o driven that thing could really eat some hay !
Does anyone know what year the haybines became popular. I don't remember them before 1970. Owatonna self propelled were popular before haybines in my area in the 1960s.
When thing we're simple
There's a 166 self propelled baler in a shed in Roswell NM; visible from the road I was on. I have the chance of picking up a 68 before it heads to the auction.
Better pick up that 166 before the aliens get it...
Nice video!! I have a few Super 77 balers
Shawn Larrabee we still do all of our farms square bales with a model 77, my grandfather likes that baler more than us grandkids
I may only be 35 years old but I bale 50 acers a year with a 630 nh round baler and a model 69 square baler old but in good shape and only misses 1 in A hundred
630s had an issue with starting the bale. Most didnt know you need to " weld " the pin in on the side of the baler which releases the tension on the belts. Much easier to start with the pin in !
you cant even buy good twine anymore
Especially not sissal I gotta run poly. Cheaper too
From bitter to bloom
There's a reason the only place you ever saw a NH mower was in the junk pile in the old days. If your cutting just grass the new ones aren't much better
We have a 68 and you can't go that fast.
Michael Wood back then you probably could but now at it’s age depends
The clip without the wagon i.e. the one baling in the field has been accelerated. The others are "normal speed". Ciao, L
It looks like some of those rows are light.
Yes, most of them are - with the NH's 56 Rake you could tighten or loosen the hay by changing the pitch of the raking assembly with the ground, and or going faster (looser) or slower (tighter). These are 7-foot mower cut swats, and not very tall hay. Also "loose" swats would make them dry faster. One clip is run faster I suspect as the hay pickup is running much faster than I would expect (which could exceed the specs, or stress the plunger drive arm (or they did run the engine much faster then designed). Depending on the baler model, the plunger gearbox was geared differently for higher capacity baler (i.e. they ran faster).
The 68 baler was a low capacity baler (which was high then), as tractors were not that powerful. NH compensated by making balers that were very easy to run, roller bearings on everything that moved except the needles that had bushings.
I used to assemble NH for my parents, who were/are farmers and sold NH on the sides since no one else sold NH in my part of the country. I demoed the machinery to fellow farmers back in the early sixties. I wanted to become a NH engineer but ended up at Ford! Ciao, L
Really
where can I buy these videos for home use in my DVD player.
That crimper has the rollers exposed .Yo
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not being in the states why would you want to crush soya beans i thought you harvested the beans
Probably for feed. Looks like they're baling the whole plant.
Crushing the stem cut drying time in half. Reduces feed deterioration drying longer in the sun and reduces chance for a rain to damage the feed when you bake a day or two sooner after cutting.
Ok thanks for that
There were forage soybean varieties in the forties and fifties.