Bach - Brandenburg Concertos BWV 1046-1051 (Ct.rc.: Szymon Goldberg, Netherlands Chamber Orchestra)

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  • @classicalmusicreference
    @classicalmusicreference  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Album available // Bach: Brandenburg Concertos BWV 1046-1051 Szymon Goldberg
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    Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) - Brandenburg Concertos BWV 1046-1051
    *Click to activate the English subtitles for the presentation* (00:00-02:30)
    00:00 Brandenburg Concerto No.1 in F Major, BWV 1046 - I. (Allegro)
    04:22 Brandenburg Concerto No.1 in F Major, BWV 1046 - II. Adagio
    08:47 Brandenburg Concerto No.1 in F Major, BWV 1046 - III. Allegro, Adagio, Allegro
    13:10 Brandenburg Concerto No.1 in F Major, BWV 1046 - IV. Menuetto, Trio, Polacca, Trio
    Violin : S.Goldberg / Oboes : H.Stotijn,A.Mater,W.Knip
    Bassoon : T.de Klerk / Horns : J.Bos,I.Soeteman
    21:10 Brandenburg Concerto No.2 in F Major, BWV 1047 - I. (Allegro)
    26:58 Brandenburg Concerto No.2 in F Major, BWV 1047 - II. Andante
    31:48 Brandenburg Concerto No.2 in F Major, BWV 1047 - III. Allegro Assai
    Trumpet : W.Groot / Flute : H.Barwahser
    Oboe : H.Stotijn / Violin : S.Goldberg
    35:05 Brandenburg Concerto No.3 in G Major, BWV 1048 - I. (Allegro)
    41:42 Brandenburg Concerto No.3 in G Major, BWV 1048 - II. Adagio
    42:10 Brandenburg Concerto No.3 in G Major, BWV 1048 - III. Allegro
    47:27 Brandenburg Concerto No.4 in G Major, BWV 1049 - I. Allegro
    54:46 Brandenburg Concerto No.4 in G Major, BWV 1049 - II. Adagio ma non tanto
    59:25 Brandenburg Concerto No.4 in G Major, BWV 1049 - III. Allegro
    Violin : S.Goldberg / Flutes : H.Barwahser,L.Oostdam
    1:04:41 Brandenburg Concerto No.5 in D Major, BWV 1050 - I. Allegro
    1:15:35 Brandenburg Concerto No.5 in D Major, BWV 1050 - II. Affettuoso
    1:22:07 Brandenburg Concerto No.5 in D Major, BWV 1050 - I. Allegro
    Flute : H.Barwahser / Violin : S.Goldberg
    Harpsichord : J.van Wering
    1:27:56 Brandenburg Concerto No.6 in B flat Major, BWV 1051 - I. (Allegro Moderato)
    1:35:14 Brandenburg Concerto No.6 in B flat Major, BWV 1051 - II. Adagio ma non tanto
    1:41:07 Brandenburg Concerto No.6 in B flat Major, BWV 1051 - III. Allegro
    Violas : S.Goldberg,M.Major / Viole da gamba : P.Lentz,H.Bol
    Double-bass : A.Woodrow / Harpsichord : J.van Wering
    NETHERLANDS CHAMBER ORCHESTRA
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    One of the most notable events in Szymon Goldberg's career was the founding by him in 1955 of the Netherlands Chamber Orchestra in Amsterdam, with which he gave excellent concerts and made numerous highly acclaimed recordings (including the Brandenburg Concertos) over the next 22 years.. This new mastering, which we are proud to release on all popular streaming platforms, does justice to this legendary recording.
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    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      One of the most notable events in Szymon Goldberg's career was the founding by him in 1955 of the Netherlands Chamber Orchestra in Amsterdam, with which he gave excellent concerts and made numerous highly acclaimed recordings (including the Brandenburg Concertos) over the next 22 years.. This new mastering, which we are proud to release on all popular streaming platforms, does justice to this legendary recording.

    • @williamsu5552
      @williamsu5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is the maestro conducting as well ?

    • @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713
      @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamsu5552 The word maestro was originally used for conductors only but later it was used for composers also.. So maestro includes composers and conductors only.

    • @joseflevitt5724
      @joseflevitt5724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      11 1 11תגובות הנחה

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamsu5552 Szymon Goldberg also conducts

  • @Caroline1261
    @Caroline1261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    For those who don't know about the story behind Bach's Brandenburg concertos. In 1721, Bach composed six “concertos for various instruments”. He dedicated them to a German nobleman and sent the manuscript as a gift, hoping to land a job as the court composer in Brandenburg. The nobleman never replied. Bach eventually took another job in Leipzig, where he lived for the rest of his life. The 6 concertos were lost for 130 years. They were never performed. The manuscript was eventually sold for about $20 and shelved in a library. The Brandenburg Concertos sat there until 1849, when they were discovered and published for the first time. Thank god.

    • @tomstarzeck7137
      @tomstarzeck7137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fascinating!.. I learn a lot from the comment section.. I am learning more about the music of Bach lately and I appreciate it much more now at 54 years of age than I did at 24. There is so much available to us now right at our fingertips where as when I was younger it would involve a trip to the local library and they would have a few books on great composers but if I wanted to dive deeper a trip to the downtown library was in the cards. I remember the entire 8th floor was dedicated to music 🎶 and walking out the door with a load of vinyl once a month was part of my early music education. Bach=genius..

    • @Caroline1261
      @Caroline1261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tomstarzeck7137 I agree, Bach was a genius!

    • @artivism4068
      @artivism4068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg thats insane that such a masterful canon of music would go unheralded and hidden for over 100 years!

    • @Caroline1261
      @Caroline1261 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artivism4068 I agree! We are lucky there were found and in good shape :)

    • @godiear350
      @godiear350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "nobleman", more like lesser-wyrm🙃

  • @petermaquine8173
    @petermaquine8173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    There is something very particular in this recording, and for our 21st century ears, something unusual. The instruments answer each others, this explain the slow space, but there is much more to it of course. It might be a way to think, by the players, what the music is all about and it's not about technicality and pure performance. It's a lost art, and we have impoverished our self, our culture in the process.
    Thank you for your work.

  • @stephenhunt8756
    @stephenhunt8756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Above all Bach must 'swing', as only he can. Most modern performances have a lot of speed, but no swing. This glorious performance has modest pacing.... and SWINGS all the way. Wonderful.

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      excellent point

    • @daniel3231995
      @daniel3231995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its constipated tbh

    • @nerowolfe736
      @nerowolfe736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The portentiousness of his reputation has crept into performances of his music, IMHO.

    • @sheilanovitz8578
      @sheilanovitz8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nerowolfe736 : “…portentiousness…” is not a word. Do you mean PORTENTOUS or PRETENTIOUS?? If you’re going to be negative and nasty, at least spell it correctly.

    • @artivism4068
      @artivism4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do u mean by swing exactly? thank you

  • @mathiasfuchs_maths
    @mathiasfuchs_maths 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Finally a recording that doesn't try to establish a new speed record.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you heard the one by the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment? By far my favourite recording.

    • @stephenduncan8292
      @stephenduncan8292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 absolutely-bit of a fashion for speed = virtuosity

  • @karensilver8853
    @karensilver8853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The pacing brings the richness forward

  • @lovesings2us
    @lovesings2us ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh how lovely! The pace, the sensitive relationships among sounds and between silence and sounds - and so much more! Thank you for sharing this treasure.

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This quenches the aridity of the soul

  • @frissonvert
    @frissonvert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The harpsichord cadenza in the 1st movement of the 5th concerto is one of the most beautiful ever recorded.

    • @TommasoPaba
      @TommasoPaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! I love that cadenza and this is probably the best harpsichord version I've ever heard with a magnificent sound! Also listen to Rudolf Serkin's version on piano, it's amazing... ;) th-cam.com/video/a5lz5HBqPZw/w-d-xo.html

    • @frissonvert
      @frissonvert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TommasoPaba I just listened to it. A precise, delicate and passionate interpretation. Thank you for this recommendation. By the way, Serkin is one of my favorite pianists. What a glorious era!

  • @mozartiano123
    @mozartiano123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A masterpiece performed by very skilled and sensitive musicians...

  • @tetyanasofiyska3863
    @tetyanasofiyska3863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The music of J.S. Bach is steps in space or running on the Earth. No stumbling and stones. I can never describe it, it is so massive. I have never been to Brandenburg. But in Berlin, near the Brandenburg Gate, we often walked with my parents and brother in 60th of the 20th century💙💛💯🌻.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wunderschöne Interpretation dieser sechs perfekt komponierten Konzerte mit farbenreichen Tönen verschiedener Soloinstrumente sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt entsprtechenden Tönen der anderen Instrumente. Der unvergleichliche Violinist leitet das ausgezeichnete Barockorchester in verschiedenen Tempi und mit künstlerisch kontrollierter Dynamik. Die verbesserte Tonqualität ist auch erstaunlich hoch als originale Aufnahmen von dreiundsechzig Jahren vor. Alles ist wunderbar!

  • @eliaspinheiro3080
    @eliaspinheiro3080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tudo lindo, tudo maravilhoso.

  • @FlexingClassicalMusic
    @FlexingClassicalMusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I keep coming back to this. It's like the soundtrack to my life's most beautiful moments. Thank you for creating something so magical. 🌈💖

  • @fransmeersman2334
    @fransmeersman2334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Magnificent performance of these wonderful concertos. Thank you for the impeccable New Mastering.

    • @dibaldgyfm9933
      @dibaldgyfm9933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! I agree, performance + sound quality are lovely

    • @fransmeersman2334
      @fransmeersman2334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dibaldgyfm9933 Music is a wonderful art, but when it comes to an appreciation it depends ultimately for a part on a subjective opinion. And that's in fact a good thing, so we can learn something from one another. There's nothing wrong with a respectful comparison. Thanks for your nice reaction. Regards.

  • @류순열-h6i
    @류순열-h6i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    아름다운 연주곡 잘 들었습니다~감사합니다~🎵🎻🎻🌿🍀☘🌹🌹☘🍀🌿❤❤수고 많으셨습니다~☕

  • @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713
    @jayakumarkaarikuzhy4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Listening to the Brandenburg concertos of my favourite composer is a pure joy to me! The music is as sweet as honey which evokes in me sadness sometimes but most of the time amazement as the wonderful music can uplift the mood of even a gloomy person.It is a mood-lifter. I had purchased a CD of this music in the early 90's which plays slightly speedily.Here it is a slow version. However, both are magnificent and fantastic which always help me soothe my soul. A case in point is Concerto No.1 in F Major Bwv 1046; No.3 in C Major Bwv 1048. Needless to say that I was mesmerized by the enchanting music of great maestro! Thanks for uploading a different interpretation of Bach's gem. Imagine, if we didn't have these kinds of musical wonders when we were confined to homes , thanks to Covid-19? Bravo, Gracias!

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very for your comment :)

    • @paulbrower3297
      @paulbrower3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember seeing a magazine article written by Leonard Bernstein on conducting. One can conduct fast or slow and get a good effect, but once one sets a tempo one must stick with it unless the music is written for transitions. Inconsistency in speed is bad for ensemble and confusing to listeners.
      At one time that reflected the ability of an orchestra to play the music from a technical standpoint (one can be stuck with "slow" for that reason) or suspect intonation or ensemble (which can mandate "fast"... I suppose. Hearing music played slow and out of tune would have to be excruciating).

  • @eunjuyun
    @eunjuyun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    어쩌다가 한번씩 클래식을 듣고 있는데 ,뭔가 우아하고 풍부한 악기들에 편성과 아름다운소리가 바로크시대에 가고 싶다는 생각이 들었어요. 좋은 음악소개 감사합니다!!!

  • @claudettedelphis6476
    @claudettedelphis6476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for sharing another quiet time of pure joy in listening and appreciating such sublime music 🎵 🎁

  • @galinakrivulin6767
    @galinakrivulin6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for the upload. The concertos that can be listened to again and again! Each time to be impressed more and be grateful to have a chance again to admire them whenever we wish.

  • @fernandocosta2776
    @fernandocosta2776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelent! Amazing! Bravo! Bravissimo!

  • @angelemontesinos3419
    @angelemontesinos3419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bellísima versión e interpretación de éstas joyas de la música de todos los tiempos. No puedo sino imaginar al gran Sebastián junto a su numerosa familia disfrutando de su propia música con esta versión del mto. Goldberg. Pensar que en su momento estas piezas no fueron ejecutadas, sino mucho después de la muerte de Bach.

  • @candidlens
    @candidlens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful performance, wonderful and appropriate taste in tempo.

  • @muhsinkanadikirik678
    @muhsinkanadikirik678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome performance!👏👏🙏❤🌹

  • @sheilanovitz8578
    @sheilanovitz8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure joy. Thank you.

  • @maxal62
    @maxal62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really beautiful, best way to start the week, thank you very much and best regards to you!

  • @fernandofernandezgar
    @fernandofernandezgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutamente genial la versión y el sonido de 1958.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Te he visto comentar en varios videos de Wagner (también uno de mis favoritos), espero que hayas disfrutado la Música y sigas disfrutando.

    • @fernandofernandezgar
      @fernandofernandezgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesustovar2549 Gracias, me alegro que compartamos gustos musicales. Lo mismo te deseo a vos. Cordiales saludos.

  • @williamfossardo6052
    @williamfossardo6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful, I like the version of Karl Richter too. Thanks

    • @robinmiller9865
      @robinmiller9865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We must never forget Karl Richter.

  • @pianomasters3752
    @pianomasters3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Divin...
    Merci :-)

  • @bkatbamna
    @bkatbamna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never heard of this recording. Wonderful! Sounds like a very modern performance.

  • @jesustovar2549
    @jesustovar2549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Que Magnifica, Gloriosa, Bella, Fina, Gloriosa y Grandiosa es la Música, especialmente la de Johann Sebastian Bach, que gran interpretación por parte de Szymon Goldberg y la Orquesta de Cámara de los Países Bajos, sin dudas esta es una de las mejores grabaciones de los 6 Conciertos de Brandenburgo con instrumentos modernos, pero con fidelidad a la partitura. Gracias por compartir esta joya y muchas otras más.

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comfort and solemnity of this wonderful performance is immeasurable profound and an order of magnitude awsome

  • @michelroussanne906
    @michelroussanne906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Merci beaucoup , magnifique !

  • @francoispallud1215
    @francoispallud1215 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    une version d'antologie ,merci du partage

  • @wolfram9669
    @wolfram9669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Precioso. Muchas gracias.

  • @tedbendixson
    @tedbendixson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really is the best recording. It's way more rich

  • @dejanstevanic5408
    @dejanstevanic5408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Goldbergs gold. A treasure. Thank you CM/RR.

  • @thomasc390
    @thomasc390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🌺Thank you!🌺

  • @robinmiller9865
    @robinmiller9865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's as if I am hearing these wondrous works for the first time.

  • @edelweisssymons7444
    @edelweisssymons7444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely Splendid! Thank you from Australia.

  • @rosanagontijo1392
    @rosanagontijo1392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maravilhoso ate que enfim encontrei lindo lindo muito chik

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gracias.

  • @gustavopalma9451
    @gustavopalma9451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muchas gracias.

  • @joserodriguezjorge6857
    @joserodriguezjorge6857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @peacemaker7645
    @peacemaker7645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    اللهم اهدنا اجمعين وجعلنا جميعن مؤمنين - اللهم آمين يارب العالمين 🏵

  • @alombredeslava2468
    @alombredeslava2468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On est là devant des trésors. Un enchantement permanent, comparable aux merveilles qu’il nous offre avec Lili Kraus dans son interprétation des sonates de Mozart. Goldberg, je ne sais pourquoi, me fait penser à Edwin Fischer. Son humanisme peut-être...

  • @hollisjasmina69
    @hollisjasmina69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adore his Mozart works with incredible Lili Kraus, too. Heartful masterpieces of two incredible people and artists.

  • @williamsu5552
    @williamsu5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much for the upload !

  • @ВасилийЖивотягов-б7ж
    @ВасилийЖивотягов-б7ж 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Покой Душе Здравствуйте Все Здравствуйте Всегда. СПАСИБО ВСЕМ ЗА СЛУЖЕНИЕ КРАСОТЕ СПАСАЮЩЕЙ МИР

  • @guillaumecoatalen6835
    @guillaumecoatalen6835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The violin is marvellous.

  • @abderrahimbenbrahim9301
    @abderrahimbenbrahim9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Très bon choix. Merci.

  • @rankoplavec3197
    @rankoplavec3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OLD SCHOOL PRECISSION

  • @DaleWiltEvans
    @DaleWiltEvans 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I prefer this recording of Bach's Brandenburg concertos to all others. Everything is balanced just right. Thanks Reference Recording for posting and introduction!!

  • @RSHRCKR18
    @RSHRCKR18 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the Rudolph Baumgartner version was one of the best but DAMN! I think this version even tops that.

  • @heyguysinternet
    @heyguysinternet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:02:05

  • @extrasalt4595
    @extrasalt4595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good, solid recording that swings without scampering - as I like. For comparison, one may wish to recordings by I Solisti di Zagreb, The Chamber Orchestra of the Saar or Sarre or Saare, the Paillard Chamber Orchestra, or the Academy of St. Martin in the Fields. Hoomeyow!!

    • @artivism4068
      @artivism4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you mean by swings?

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jascha Horenstein recorded these works slightly earlier for VOX in what many consider way ahead of its time in performance style.

  • @Firudin
    @Firudin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Show me the better version among "authentic"s, pls. :))

  • @nerowolfe736
    @nerowolfe736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My apologies to the harpsichordist - excellent work - but Trevor Pinnock is still the GOAT. I am convinced that he went down to the crossroads at midnight and sold his soul to the devil for the great 5:1 cadenza.

  • @mohammedalomari1998
    @mohammedalomari1998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where was only Bach and Bruckner.

    • @mozartiano123
      @mozartiano123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruckner never achieved such lyricism in symphonyc music....

    • @lkapo7047
      @lkapo7047 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I recommend 7 slow movement @@mozartiano123

  • @СнежныйБарс-г2я
    @СнежныйБарс-г2я 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    497//22.09.21.

  • @peteliew9712
    @peteliew9712 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Membaja

  • @jirikendzierski5845
    @jirikendzierski5845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nechte mne posluchat baacha. A neotravujte

  • @gerhardrohne2361
    @gerhardrohne2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very stodgy "reference"...

  • @nightoil6567
    @nightoil6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you set the playback speed to x1.25, you bring these performances pretty much up to current-day tempi. The music actually doesn't sound ridiculous at all. Perfectly listenable to. Bach's incredible writing still shines through. The only slightly jarring thing is the speed of the vibrato.
    Excluding the tempo difference, you're left with basically the timbre of "modern" versus historically informed instruments.
    At x1.25 speed, these performance drag much less. Old movies often seem "slow" to the modern brain. Similar effect here. Maybe we don't need the music to be "spelled-out" so deliberately any more. Maybe it's that 1950s ears were less accustomed to Bach / baroque music, with the post-WW2 Bach revival and widespread availability of recordings still at a relatively early stage.

    • @mijola2476
      @mijola2476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and that's exactly what you do not want to do. 'Current-day' tempi are often much too fast. 'The modern brain' can enjoy the detail of Bach's extraordinary music at these speeds.

  • @luanllluan
    @luanllluan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It may be a classic, but stands nowhere close to Café Zimmerman performance. I just cannot 'unlisten' to Café's performance. Is so elegant, full of life. I found this a bit underwhelming

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I do not compare, Syzmon Goldberg was a good interpreter of Bach's work as well as Mozart, I see here a delicacy and fidelity to the score, apart from the fact that there are original instruments such as the Viola da Gamba in the 6th Concerto. But whatever you say, the performance you mention is also very good.

    • @luanllluan
      @luanllluan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jesustovar2549 i do. I don't think that he lacks any good feature. What I mean is that I feel there's a lack of joy in this performance, of suspense that Café brought to Bach that made me love his music. Alas, one cannot please all.

    • @provideme1000
      @provideme1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this very rerstraint is what i like about this performance. it is not compelling.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luanllluan Yes, I got used to listening to baroque works with period instruments in recent years but it doesn't bother me to listen to Bach on modern instruments, especially if there is fidelity and respect to the score, apart from the fact that several of his works were performed on modern instruments when were discovered or never performed in life, be it Adolf Busch, Glenn Gould or even Leopold Stokowski's orchestral arrangements (which I think do them justice).

    • @williamsu5552
      @williamsu5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luanllluan yes , the lack of joy makes this recording a unique gem; harmony and balanced at their best 😃

  • @michaelletellier218
    @michaelletellier218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What a magnificent remastering of great sound quality and fidelity. Sadly some of the comments appear confused. CMRR is just what it says, a reference point ... for great, deeply felt and considered recordings from the past. Should you prefer some jazzed up, emotional period instrument hotch-potch, that's up to you. You are missing the point this time. Thank you team at CMRR for a wonderful, historic upload. You are adding so much to our rich musical heritage.

    • @paulbrower3297
      @paulbrower3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a musically-valid approach. Bach's music is definitely not made for such ensembles as the Berlin Philharmonic or the Chicago Symphony. Bach may be closer to Brahms than Monteverdi in time, but not in musical style. This is the most valid approach to Bach that I have heard from the 1950's.
      Bach can be played adequately with modern instruments -- but never with Romantic or Classical style. The aesthetic of performance changed soon after Handel composed The Messiah. Style evolved with the instruments after 1760 for music from after then, but J S Bach remained J S Bach. Later composers such as Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Schumann, Brahms, Mahler, Schoenberg, Bartok, Shostakovich, and Part may have loved Bach -- but none of them was he. It is possible to introduce rich counterpoint into later music, as in the final movements of the fifth symphonies of Bruckner and Mahler, but this is not Bach.
      Bach's Brandenburg Concertos are far from ideal vehicles for emotional expression, and they are not intended to be prettified. They are what they are. I have heard them with big orchestras that try to connect Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms... either Bruckner or Bartok fits better with Beethoven or Brahms... and such is invariably disappointing, with chamber orchestras of modern instruments, period instruments, and even on a synthesizer. Maybe these concertos would work well on Jamaican, Japanese, or Javanese ensembles. Probably not brass bands or wind ensembles, though.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there anything wrong with period instruments?

    • @paulbrower3297
      @paulbrower3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vingul Period instruments give the proper sonorities. With better musicianship than the norm of the time such can be attractive. Still, I could make the case that for such a work as one of Bach's cello suites, I will sacrifice period sound for excellence of expression.

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@paulbrower3297 better musicianship than the "norm of the time" -- I don't know if you are referring to the 18th century or the 1950s here.
      I take exception to the attitude of the original poster, above, as I found this performance quite flat and bland. The implication that "period instruments" are somehow inferior seals it away in the far recesses of incredibly silly comments, for me. For instance the recording of the Brandenburg Concertos by the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment is far more vital and dynamic, and no doubt closer to Bach's vision, than this present recording. Perhaps Michael Letellier would prefer to hear it played on theremin and electric bass guitar, that's his prerogative.

    • @paulbrower3297
      @paulbrower3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vingul 19th century, when most orchestral players were closer to amateur quality. A few years ago a double-bassist for the Atlanta Symphony passed away at the age of 87. She was a charter member of the youth orchestra which became a professional orchestra.
      The training of orchestral players is getting better, and more excellent orchestras are around than used to be.The only constraint is now the availability of top-rate instruments. It would be my assumption that the Atlanta Symphony of our time is a better orchestra than the Vienna Philharmonic of 1880. Note well that Gustav Mahler disparaged the quality of play of orchestras of his time.
      Period instrument performance does not yet have the pedigree that the more conventional orchestras have.One can't play much music in the manner of Klemperer (who sometimes conducted with very slow tempos to get the expression that he wanted); one cannot get away with such on early instruments.Tempos must be fast for period instruments. I do not dispute that tastes can change in musical performance, and this is especially so with baroque music.Such is not so with middle-period Haydn, any Mozart, and anything later. Those musicians who play Classical-era and later music have about a century of experience or tradition behind them...

  • @SthefanyMello.
    @SthefanyMello. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Magnífico 💫🎶💕

  • @davidmaslow2931
    @davidmaslow2931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an incredible interpretation of the Brandenburg concertos!

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an incredible discovery this is for me.