Thanks for showing us these little intricate details that would otherwise be unnoticed by our ignorant eyes. Very interessting stuff, Im very happy you are still doing these vids!
Man it just shows how far ahead the pros are , I run a r1 and man my prep is not even close lol of course I’m old and slow but it just shows how much teams put in to bikes . Swingarm pivot points etc , very cool !!! I also enjoy that it trickles down to the customer you all did my electronics all my mapping and tc etc and bike is so smooth now can’t even feel electronics working just beautiful .
Where has this channel been and why am I only seeing it now?! What a machine,cant wait to see the finished article and amazing work!l, both on machine and channel, keep it up!
The swingarm pivot was machined "UP" from the middle Oem point or "DOWN" ? So happy to see you back in thr game after Westby pulled out. Lovely to see another R1 SBK build as myself have some hybrid of this kind. KUDOS
Have you seen how much stiffening of the front of the frame in Toprak's WSB R1 when he rode for Yamaha last year. If you have modified the swingarm pivot point in the frame are you allowed to do similar mods that Factory Yamaha did to Toprak's frame
Many different versions of rotors available. Too many variables, like pad compound, caliper spec, master spec etc. "better" is a relative term, aside from the fact that those rotors are not available to the public similar to the Attack "braking" rotors. You would never be able to compare. I assume you were testing the brembo rotors on a true superbike front end with wsbk spec calipers right?
@@SuperbikeUnlimited ha! seems to work okay in your prototypes. Are you doing any virtual stress testing in your CAD before final printing in aluminum or carbon nylon?
For 3D scanning, we have a couple of partners who are doing that for us because the equipment we have is frankly too time consuming to use effectively. Yes, you’ll notice some small ribbing and support for strengthening, which is typically a result of stress analysis. We do very little of that part in the shop for now, it’s very helpful having capable partners taking the workload off while time is so limited.
I think its a shame Yamaha has not provided some of these type designs from day one when even far in the past other manufacturers HAVE I mean I doubt it is more than basically pennies difference to have parts that allow for a range of adjustment like for swingarm and rake etc. I found out the shock for my MT-10 has no adjustament for height whereas the so similar shock for the R1 does....seriously? What did yamaha save? a dollar? I get that a lot of folks even for an R1 dont care and are never going to play with such but for anyone that NEEDS to (like me?) it is so frustrating. One would think a manufacturer would want to make models as desirable as possible if doing so costs little? More adjustability if always going to be a big plus IMHO and not just for the hard core superbike racers
Motec just make ECU’s. Magneti, Cosworth, TAG etc we’re all F1 competitors when it was a strategy war for TCS etc. so with them you get properly advanced and developed motorsport strategies and functionality. Motec have never done any sort of open competition and they don’t have a developer area in the ECU for you to write your own. Definitely a tier or 2 down
That’s basically incorrect on every point. We currently own multiple MoTeC M1 Development-licensed ECUs. MoTeC has offered development licenses with completely open and custom programmable firmware for a long time. This was a common selection in the MotoGP CRT class. The firmware MoTeC offers varies massively and again, outside development is welcome. MoTeC is a standard in LMP- level prototype race cars, vehicles with incredibly advanced strategies and hybrid drivetrains. They are also spec ECUs for a ton of European SBK series as well as the ECU of choice for a tremendous amount of auto racing. Lastly, MoTeC makes a massive amount of hardware beyond ECUs.
@@SuperbikeUnlimited They might’ve opened it up in recent years to allow you to write your own strategies which is progress. My experience comes from world championship lmp1, 2 and single seater racing and a few teams used Motec primarily as a dash logger because their telemetry was a bit more user friendly than Cosworth but lmp2 is all Cosworth, lmp1 is TAG, Bosch or Magnetti. You do pay for it though they’re all at least 3 times the cost of a Motec set up. We were also one of the last teams to run Magnetti in BSB before they rolled out the spec Motec kit back with the Evo spec and it hasn’t changed since which is why BSB is kinda stuck as a standalone championship. That was all down to cost and user friendliness, it was cheap and teams didn’t have to pay megabucks for a dedicated engineer to run it, a switch on technician could just about get to grips with it. Motec isn’t bad but it’s by far not the best. Take Cosworth, if you dig around in Caltool you’ll find all the strategies Ten Kate paid for and that can be ran on something basic like the SQ6 which is decent value when considering the hours that went into it.
Bizarre guess you don’t need ride fast as the trick parts do it for you lol😂😂 What crap Guess these are the guys a great rider on a stock bike thrashes
This is one of my favorite TH-cam channels. I can't believe more people don't watch these.
Coz it’s doesn’t have boobs and useless motorcycle influencer content.
Love trick new parts that never ever fit right the 1st time. Part of the game.
Keep making content even if it's mundane and not too flashy. Hanging out in the shop with ya virtually is kinda cool
I'm learning so much, thank you.
Wow that bitubo fork looks great
Thanks for showing us these little intricate details that would otherwise be unnoticed by our ignorant eyes. Very interessting stuff, Im very happy you are still doing these vids!
i love the details you guys get into. i often have to watch the videos multiple times to catch everything. keep up the good job on the content.
Man it just shows how far ahead the pros are , I run a r1 and man my prep is not even close lol of course I’m old and slow but it just shows how much teams put in to bikes . Swingarm pivot points etc , very cool !!! I also enjoy that it trickles down to the customer you all did my electronics all my mapping and tc etc and bike is so smooth now can’t even feel electronics working just beautiful .
Where has this channel been and why am I only seeing it now?!
What a machine,cant wait to see the finished article and amazing work!l, both on machine and channel, keep it up!
You have an amazing grasp of complexity and diligence to make things work. Best, Allan
Good luck at motoamerica, loved the content and I look forward for the updated video. This video has reignited my love for this sport.
Another cool build Freddie. Looking forward to seeing it race. 👍👍👍👍
love these! i learn more on these build series videos than any other on youtube!
Lookin amazing!! It’s a lot of fun following along on this project.
A superb presentation, really great work, thank you for this video.
Sweet Freddie, thanks!
Love the vids bro wish you would post more you have great content and super underrated
The electronics to sort out to make it all work when on track is going to be the most time sucking thing about this project .
Love that switch that makes neutual not possible .That would sell well for a lot of sportbikes .I have quick-shifter ,but have hit neutal .
Yes!!!!!!!
Ready for the series!
So, do you plan on getting Mathew Scholtz to pilot your Yamaha when its done? would that conflict with his supersport ride at Strack?
The swingarm pivot was machined "UP" from the middle Oem point or "DOWN" ?
So happy to see you back in thr game after Westby pulled out.
Lovely to see another R1 SBK build as myself have some hybrid of this kind.
KUDOS
We have a lot of adjustment in both directions.
Hello 👋 Nice video I would like to ask you please for the engine brake in setting 0 is the softer or the harder engine brake ? R1
This is dependent on how it is set up, usually based on rider feedback. We have more EB with a higher value.
@@SuperbikeUnlimited ok thanks 🙏
Have you seen how much stiffening of the front of the frame in Toprak's WSB R1 when he rode for Yamaha last year.
If you have modified the swingarm pivot point in the frame are you allowed to do similar mods that Factory
Yamaha did to Toprak's frame
Yes, we tested it here last year but with no real tangible benefit. That probably comes down to differences in tires and circuits from there to here.
How did you get parts from Crescent Yamaha WSBK team to the US? Keep up the great content. Can't wait for you guys to build an M1000RR
We are a factory-supported team. Thank you! We did the BMW, did you miss it? Full SBK spec.
Any idea who is going to ride this bike?
Wow, now this is bike porn. 👍👍 Geometry adjustments might be the most underrated aspect of bike setup, in my amateur track day opinion. 😂
What year frame
At minute "8:03 linkages that we're going to test with" Do you sell this? Who is the manufacturer of this linkage?
We do sell them, but they are not able to be used with a stock swingarm.
Brembo rotors are better than Braketech. I tried them back to back and there was a big difference
We ran them with Westby and no one ever beat us on the brakes, so I’d say they’re pretty good.
Many different versions of rotors available. Too many variables, like pad compound, caliper spec, master spec etc. "better" is a relative term, aside from the fact that those rotors are not available to the public similar to the Attack "braking" rotors. You would never be able to compare. I assume you were testing the brembo rotors on a true superbike front end with wsbk spec calipers right?
I want to come work for you guys so bad. You guys looking for a mechanic?
We are always looking for a talented technician. Send your resume in!
What do you use to 3D scan?
The one we have is basically useless. 😂
@@SuperbikeUnlimited ha! seems to work okay in your prototypes. Are you doing any virtual stress testing in your CAD before final printing in aluminum or carbon nylon?
For 3D scanning, we have a couple of partners who are doing that for us because the equipment we have is frankly too time consuming to use effectively. Yes, you’ll notice some small ribbing and support for strengthening, which is typically a result of stress analysis. We do very little of that part in the shop for now, it’s very helpful having capable partners taking the workload off while time is so limited.
👍💪
I think its a shame Yamaha has not provided some of these type designs from day one when even far in the past other manufacturers HAVE I mean I doubt it is more than basically pennies difference to have parts that allow for a range of adjustment like for swingarm and rake etc. I found out the shock for my MT-10 has no adjustament for height whereas the so similar shock for the R1 does....seriously? What did yamaha save? a dollar? I get that a lot of folks even for an R1 dont care and are never going to play with such but for anyone that NEEDS to (like me?) it is so frustrating. One would think a manufacturer would want to make models as desirable as possible if doing so costs little? More adjustability if always going to be a big plus IMHO and not just for the hard core superbike racers
Who’s riding the bike?!
More on that soon!
Are you building a bike for 2025? It’s very late in the season without testing
We will reveal more soon.
Motec just make ECU’s. Magneti, Cosworth, TAG etc we’re all F1 competitors when it was a strategy war for TCS etc. so with them you get properly advanced and developed motorsport strategies and functionality.
Motec have never done any sort of open competition and they don’t have a developer area in the ECU for you to write your own. Definitely a tier or 2 down
That’s basically incorrect on every point. We currently own multiple MoTeC M1 Development-licensed ECUs. MoTeC has offered development licenses with completely open and custom programmable firmware for a long time. This was a common selection in the MotoGP CRT class. The firmware MoTeC offers varies massively and again, outside development is welcome. MoTeC is a standard in LMP- level prototype race cars, vehicles with incredibly advanced strategies and hybrid drivetrains. They are also spec ECUs for a ton of European SBK series as well as the ECU of choice for a tremendous amount of auto racing. Lastly, MoTeC makes a massive amount of hardware beyond ECUs.
@@SuperbikeUnlimited They might’ve opened it up in recent years to allow you to write your own strategies which is progress.
My experience comes from world championship lmp1, 2 and single seater racing and a few teams used Motec primarily as a dash logger because their telemetry was a bit more user friendly than Cosworth but lmp2 is all Cosworth, lmp1 is TAG, Bosch or Magnetti. You do pay for it though they’re all at least 3 times the cost of a Motec set up.
We were also one of the last teams to run Magnetti in BSB before they rolled out the spec Motec kit back with the Evo spec and it hasn’t changed since which is why BSB is kinda stuck as a standalone championship.
That was all down to cost and user friendliness, it was cheap and teams didn’t have to pay megabucks for a dedicated engineer to run it, a switch on technician could just about get to grips with it.
Motec isn’t bad but it’s by far not the best. Take Cosworth, if you dig around in Caltool you’ll find all the strategies Ten Kate paid for and that can be ran on something basic like the SQ6 which is decent value when considering the hours that went into it.
The problem is you’re speaking from a perspective of using the limited firmware to which you’ve had access.
For context, M1 Build / Development (Open) licenses have existed and been in use since before MotoGP CRT, which was over a decade ago.
Bizarre guess you don’t need ride fast as the trick parts do it for you lol😂😂
What crap
Guess these are the guys a great rider on a stock bike thrashes
People that comment this kind of thing are always slow, maybe in more ways than one..🤔
And then the rider crashes and it all gets f-d up.