Have had my sigma f3.5 for years and really enjoy it. Comparing it to the canon 10-18, The autofocus, build quality and low light ability is superior. And the sharpness at higher focal length is definitely as good as the canon. It just gets a little soft at the edges when you drop it to f3.5. But the main thing is the build quality, it’s a solid piece of kit.
I have to comment and thank you for the review and work you put in to making your video's. I find then educational and informative which has been so helpful to a novelist like myself. Thank you👍
I have always followed your videos Christopher. And you have been of great help informing us of details you review on. When I first saw your Sigma 8-16mm review, it has been on my wish list since. Was lucky enough that I was able to get one for a second hand for just USD329.00, mint condition. Seemed like the first owner did not know how maximize its use and gave up photography. Presently saw all his gears are for sale from a used camera gear online website. Consistently, as you said, its sharp and I have validated all your tests! You tend to smile after you have taken a shot instead of a hovering question marks above your head :) Thank you for being there sharing your insights and reviews. With high regards.
Great selection of lenses. Your photos demonstrate that great photos depend more on the person's abilities than it does on the equipment. Kudos to you on the composition, lighting colors, and collecting and organizing all the information for the video.
Christopher, this is a very good comparison review! Thanks a lot! I purchased the Canon 10-18 recently. I am very happy with it. Although at wide open apertures it causes hefty vignetting, at f/8 it is awesome. Moreover the 'IS' helps you with 4-stop stabilization! Simply incredible! Even with f/8, you can catch up with shutter speeds of lenses with f/2.8 (that is exactly 4 stops!). Excellent value and best price / performance!
I understand that some opinions are personal views of the reviewer and I'm okay with that. This review is fantastic! I just love the way it is made, smooth and to the point. Thank you. Great job!
Hello. Thank you for making this. I like your review style very much. The way they are narrated, the content, the video and samples. Everything is top-notch.
Dude I love your videos You both help me find my wide angle and standard lens for my T3i! Thank you soo much! You are my favorite camera guy so far lol
My 4 go-to lenses, all in one bag, thanks to Chris' videos: Ultra Wide-angle: Tokina AT-X 11-16mm f/2.8 PRO DX MARK II. Fast Standard Zoom: Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM. Prime: Canon EF 50 f/1.8 STM II. Telephoto: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM. . Got all of them for $630/£489/€572 (all second-hand). I can cover from 11 to 250mm on my little Canon 750D (Rebel T6i).
I bought the Tokina 11-16 and I really like it. It's probably the best lens I've ever had, as far as optical and build quality. The only thing I don't like is the AF, which isn't enough accurate to be trusted each and every time, as I do with all my Canon lenses. Years ago I tried the Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6 and it was awful, it was ok in the center, but boy the conrners were unusable, and I tried on a less demanding 450D APS-C sensor; I can't imagine how bad can it be on a 24MP sensor...
@@EricRoseBahamas I went with the Canon 10 to 18 mm ef-s lens. So glad I did! It was a lot cheaper takes really good pictures and has image stabilization for video which I use a lot!
I fully agree with Chris's assessment of these lens. Have to say Chris, I was shocked you didn't include any Samyang/Rokinon Lenses. I just got my Rok 14mm f/2.8 UMC lens in yesterday. Will be testing it out and doing a review in a month or so.
I dont think 10-18mm is a "rubbish zoom range" because most of us own kit Lenses with 18-55 Range (Or even the 17-50mm 2.8 which is a great Addon for the 10-18.). So all the Range ist covered from 10-55mm. The 10-18 is sharper and than most of the others at half the cost. Out of all these Zooms, id get the 10-18. If i wanted a fast aperture (for stars f.e.) i'd get the Rokinon/Samyang/Walimex 12mm f2.0. It's pretty nice!
Maybe you can help. I wanna get the 16mm Sigma Wide lens for the c100 mark ii, but the lens has a EF-M mount. And so far, everywhere I look, I can't figure out if the lens is compatible with the c100 or not. If it isn't, is there another comparable wide PRIME lens that the c100 mark ii can use. I need a good wide prime lens for my arsenal. Thanks.
Among your videos I did not see a review of the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124 AF Pro DX, I've been using one of those and while it's OK it's not especially great. For a filmmaker it's probably excellent, but that sliding ring for focus is a little frustrating on a DSLR, I end up finding my focus shifts when trying to switch between modes. There's a supposedly used low-use Canon 10-22mm locally available for $300, no hood. Given that it's been a few years since this comparison video was made, would you still look at the Canon 10-22mm as an excellent choice for DSLR and mirrorless, or does some newer lens for ultra wide angle appeal more now? If It matters I'm using a 24MP 77D and am considering getting an M50 for my wife. My principal use is indoors during the day. While f/3.5 isn't wonderful it's better than the 10-18mm and where I'd be using it, having as much zoom as possible would be handy for taking semi-candid family photos while still being able to zoom-out as my subjects get really close to me.
Chris, I just wanted to say thank you so much for all your videos. And all reviews they have been extremely helpful, to help me navigate and purchase the right lenses for my 70D. You help me, keep learning more about photography which I love so much. I Purchased the Canon 10-18 EFS STM Lens, for my huge trip to Europe, it took fantastic pictures and was exactly everything I wanted it to be. Thanks to you I got all the shots that I needed and wanted, in Paris London and Iceland. Thank you again so much for your reviews, for your very helpful advice, and for your comparison videos which are huge! Look forward to seeing more of your videos thank you again
I ended up with the Sigma 10-20mm F4 lens. Maybe not the greatest lens, but I still have a lot of fun with it on my Nikon APS-C camera. It was a tough call, but I almost went with the Sigma 8-16mm lens. Now that was a fun lens, but the practical side of me decided to go for the 10-20mm.
Hi Christopher - your one of the best lens reviewers on the internet. One thing I'd like to see because it's hard to sometimes see the quality on TH-cam would be to have your famous brick wall pictures in full quality somewhere and linked on the video description?
hey chris so would you recommend the tokina 11-16 rather than the 11-20 for landscape / night photography? it seems that the 11-20 has many cons and the 11-16 gets the job done
Everything is a compromise my photography brothers and sisters. I want good performance for landscapes, milky way stars and aurora, so got the tokina 11-16 2.8
Hey Christopher. I am a Nikon user and I do astrophotography. I've been shooting on an 18mm lens to get some wide angles on shots as I haven't invested in a star tracking set up yet and thus can't stitch photos together the way I would want to. I do some other non-astro photography as well, but it is always long exposure. I was wondering, given my usage, what your recommendation would be to capture the sharpest images of the night sky. Star trails tend to start around 20 seconds so ideally an aperture that allows me to use a lower ISO setting at 15 seconds would be great, but I am also willing to turn up my ISO settings if the lens really will produce a better shot.
+csantos2 It's really down to trial and error. If you have an APS-C camera then try a lens like the Samyang 16mm f/2. If you're on full-frame, then the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 might be good for you
Christopher Frost Photography Interesting. Are you suggesting that because of quality over the ones you reviewed (besides the Canon)? I was hoping to capture more in frame than I currently am at 18mm. I am going on a photo trip to Iceland this summer with a friend to get pictures of the night sky with some great landscapes in the foreground. I will probably also do some daylight stuff too. But I was looking at lenses around 10mm-12mm between F/1.8-F/3.5, although I know F/1.8 isn't realistic. Haha. But I have been torn between the Tokina 11-20mm and the Sigma 10-20mm, and have totally been hoping to find an ultra wide that finds a middle ground between those and the 2x more expensive Nikkor 10-24mm.
+Christopher Frost Photography The reason I ask is that the specific difference seems to be an improved nano coating that greatly reduces lens flare, which was the major complaint mentioned in the optics portion. Since the zoom range won't affect me very much for what this lens would be doing, and with the sharpness and otherwise strong optics for currently ~ $400 on amazon, it seems like quite an attractive option since I intend on also buying a high end polarizing filter. I'm just a tad worried if the flare on the mark II isn't quite as improved as I had maybe thought.
Hello Mr Christopher thank you very much for the best videos for cameras gear on you tube , I have 10-18mm f4.5-5.6 and I would like to have the best ultra wide angle lens for my eos 90D , lens that gives a lot more than the 10-18 specificly for landscape photography . Thanks
Hello, Chris! Do you mind making a review for Tokina 12-28mm versus the Tokina 12-24mm? I sold my Canon 10-18mm as I tend to swap it out to another lens when I feel limited to its 18mm range.
Hi Chris! I'm considering to buy my first ultra wide lens and after watching the video 10-18mm is looking like a good deal! I'm also very interested in Samyang's ultra wide-angle lenses so which one from Samyang would you recommend to compare with the canon. I'm using Canon 70D and image sharpness and quality are the most important aspects for me. Thanks Chris for your advice!
+TupsuRS If you are going to do a review about the Samyang 10mm it would be great if you could rate it the same way you did in this video so it would be easier to compare it with other lenses! I would also like to know how many stars the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 would get :) Thanks!
I know this video is getting on a bit but it's still very relevant! Chris, I currently have the Canon 10-18 although I have been offered a 2nd hand Tokina 11-16mm (DXii) for £240 so is it worth the change at this price or should I just stick with my canon?
Thanks Chris! I actually got a chance to sample the Tokina for a morning and in comparison tests with my 10-18 I actually think the 10-18 performs better. As you say the Tokina's main selling point is the 2.8 but I have the Sigma 17-70 f2.8 (again thanks to you) so I don't think I need a super wide angle fast lens as well. The CA on the Tokina is horrendous granted 99% of this can be removed in photoshop.
Hi Christopher, which thrid party lens would be good for say thunderstorm images, where you get lightning plus some landscape detail ?. I would be using it on a Canon 7DMKII and my budget would be around 300 to 750. I'd like to know your thoughts, cheers.
+Jay Wolf just about any lens should be fine I think, if its field of view captures the landscape you want. You'll probably want a special lightning trigger device which you can buy for your camera. Take a look online for more info about lightning photography
Christopher Frost Photography Thanks Christopher, yes i have the trigger I was just wondering in which lens would be the sharper. Anyway, wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas and great work on all your videos over this year and past, top job.
Hi, Christopher. First of all, thank you very much for the so incredible and systematic work you do in this videos. You are my first reference when I update my equipment little by little and nowadays I'm thinking on buying the Canon EF-S 10-18. Let me ask you a question that worries me: a second information I use is the well-known dxomark tests and, in the case of the Canon EF-S 10-18, it gets a very poor performance in terms of sharpness. What are these people doing? Your images on the corners demonstrate the opposite. Have you any explanation? Thanks a lot!!!
I pay absolutely zero attention to DXOMark. I have no idea how their testing procedure works but they come up with some baffling stuff. They have some real fanboys out there, though
For the Sigma 8-16mm's price, you can get the Canon 10-18 and a Samyang 8mm fisheye. Now that's a nice combo for going ultra-wide. I have the Canon 10-18 and it's a great lens. I'm planning to buy the Samyang 8mm fisheye. Very nice video comparison.
Cristian Stancu That's a good point! Although remember, the fisheye lens obviously gives a lot of distortion, which is intentional. With the Sigma 8-16 lens, straight lines remain straight.
Christopher Frost Photography Yes, that's true. I guess it is great to have a 8mm rectilinear lens. Although you could straighten the 8mm fisheye image, with a bit of processing, if needed. I would definitely like to have both lenses in my bag.
Cristian Stancu You could stretch the images, but of course there would be lower image quality. But yeah, I agree, I'd much rather have the 10-18 and Samyang 8mm myself :-)
Igor Laski The Tokina will let in more light, and be easier to use. But the 8-16 will give you an angle so wide that your flats will look huge (if that's what you want)
hi Chris, do you have a review for UWA lenses for Canon full frame? I'm using 5D Mark ii and I'm looking for an affordable UWA lens. thank you in advance
Hey, I'm going on a trip soon and I was looking at getting an ultra wide lens for landscapes. I have a canon 600d, the lenses I was looking at are the Canon 10-18mm 4.5-5.6 STM, the Samyang 16mm f2, and the Samyang 14mm f2.8. I am comfortable using manual focus and I am leaning towards the 16mm because it has filter threads, its sharp, and it has a fast aperture. I would really appreciate a recommendation because you seem to know your stuff about lenses, thanks!
Jacob Macy For a trip I would go with the 10-18mm, which I have myself. You get flexibility with zoom, IS helps you compensate somewhat the slow aperture, and it is compact and light lens. For landscapes you would stop down to the sweet spot anyway, so it's great match I would say. For the money it's really great value, real surprise from Canon :)
Hi there, I just subscribed! Loving your detailed reviews with informative image samples, keep it up! I'm choosing between a Canon 10-18mm and a 10-22mm and driving myself crazy trying to decide, each of those lenses has its strong side. I'm getting a Canon 77d and the next lens I have is a 24-70mm. Not really sure if a 2-6mm gap is going to bother me. I need a lens for shooting interior in tight, fairly dark spaces and also landscapes in mostly sunny weather. I might get into taking a bit of video but again not sure (my previous 550d didn't give me that option). The price difference doesn't really matter, since I've already found a used (but almost new) 10-22mm in the same price range as the 10-18mm... Please help, any advice would be really appreciated!!
I am facing the same situation like yours. A used Canon 10-22mm (about the same price) or new 10-18mm. Chris pointed out that the IS helps to over come the smaller aperture and I have two pro photographers commenting that don’t be deceived by the look of this new 10-18mm lens, it looks cheap but it creates very sharp images. Hmmm... puzzle! 10-22mm just give you better useful range and the metal mount means a lot to me... tough choices
@@ErikvonStrongber neither. I ended up getting a used (near new) EF16-35mm F4L IS USM lol. As I have planned getting myself a full frame body in 2020. But, I would recommend, like Chris does, the 10-18mm STM.
Good morning Christopher, Fisrt of all I would like to thank you for this video and all the other videos that your making, very helpful and getting a clearer idea on what I'm looking for. Would you please if you have some time make other videos for all best lenses types for aps-c canon cameras?? Here you have covered the wide and ultra-wide angle, I saw the fast standard lens as well, but didn't find one for telephoto, super telephoto lenses comparison. Thank you for your efforts. May God bless you. Cheers.
Greetings, I really like your reviews, especially that you divide your videos in 3 parts. Basic 1st impression, then contrast & color aberration, then distortion & vignetting. I am looking for a ultra wide for my D7200. The Tokina 14-20 F/2 seems quite good. Would you do a review for that?
Hi Christopher! Thank you for the great video. I am looking to buy a new gear next month and I've been very confused about what to buy. My old setup was a Canon Xti with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye that I use for skydiving. I am going to buy the Canon EOS Rebel T6i and for lens I am between: Tokina 10-17mm F/3.5-4.5 DX Autofocus Fisheye, Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM or the Canon EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM, but this would be my last option since the price is double of the other, also double of the weight and is only f/4. What would be the best option? Should I just keep the Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye? Which I don't see much wider when using with my xti. Thank so much. Peace
how would you rate these lenses in regards to the audibility of the autofocus in videos? Which are the quietest? Were there any that the noise was not picked up by the camera? I love the detail you put into these videos BTW!
+Calvin Hodgson since posting this comment, I bought the Canon 10-22mm lens. While it is definitely audible, and is picked up by the built in camera mic, it does not get picked up by my external mic attached to the top of the camera.
I apologize, most of the youtubers doesn't answer with one post, i thought that i might had more chances with 3, but i sincerely sorry, wont happen again. great channel, keep going.
Having trouble choosing UWA lens for Sony A mount, its sad that Sony doesn't have good UWA lenses for their APS-C cams. I didn't find any third party lenses appealing. However I am shortlisting Tokina 11-16mm and Sigma 10-20 f3.5. Any suggestions are welcome.
+Chaz Madge There are wide sample variations (quality control) with the Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6. Mine is better than Christopher's too! I just got lucky with collimation QC I guess.
Hi I'm using Canon 77D. I'm looking for a wide angle len with small budget. By the way, i'm really interested Canon 10-22 f3.5 and Sigma 10-20 f3.5. Could you recommend one of these? Thanks.
Great video, Chris! I love UWA-photography. What slightly bothered me is the blurred white background of the charts on the right side. Just a little distracting as it covered part of the test shots:)
Hi Chris... Thank you for reviewing the ultra wide lenses. Very helpful indeed. Quick question: between Canon 10-18 mm and Sigma 8-16 mm, which one is your personal favorite and why?
Hi Christopher, can I use this lens for astrophotography? because it doesn't have infinity setting I wounder how it can be set for focusing, sharpness. thank you The Canon 10-18 mm
Thank you for the reviews. They are very helpful. I wanted to ask you for your opinion about a wide angle lens for landscapes. I'm planning a trip to Iceland and want to make sure I have a good lens when I go. I'm torn between the sigma models and the tokina. I'd love to hear your thoughts about which you would grab for landscapes. Thanks again.
Hi christ, im in a dilemma, I can't choose between the sigma 10-20 3.5 and 4-5.6. i got quite a good deal for a 2nd hand 4-5.6 for about 190 USD, or i could get a new 3.5 for 460 USD. Does the improvements in the lens justify the difference in price?
Definitely not- i have had both and they are very similar in performance. Not bad lenses, but As Chris says- soft in corners. Seeing this review i am tempted to swap Sigma 3.5 for Canon 10-18, get sharper lens and have some cash left over.
Christopher i am looking for a lens purely for real estate but after i am based in asia we have a lot of sunlight and most photos will be made when the sun shine i been looking at the Tokina 11-16mm and now the Tokina 11-20mm what are your opinion about my choice and would any filter help me at all ?
Flashdaddy1 A polarising filter might be helpful. These Tokina lenses are good - but another nice option would be the Canon 10-18mm STM. Watch my ultra wide-angle lens comparison video for more ideas!
Have you ever noticed that when you use a very sharp lens it takes a long time to process in a RAW workflow? I know this question is out from left field, sorry ahead of time.
I am a Nikon guy, but I do thoroughly enjoy your reviews and other uploads. Thank you very much for your time and effort.
Have had my sigma f3.5 for years and really enjoy it. Comparing it to the canon 10-18, The autofocus, build quality and low light ability is superior. And the sharpness at higher focal length is definitely as good as the canon. It just gets a little soft at the edges when you drop it to f3.5. But the main thing is the build quality, it’s a solid piece of kit.
I have to comment and thank you for the review and work you put in to making your video's. I find then educational and informative which has been so helpful to a novelist like myself. Thank you👍
I always watch your reviews before i do a purchase.
I have always followed your videos Christopher. And you have been of great help informing us of details you review on. When I first saw your Sigma 8-16mm review, it has been on my wish list since. Was lucky enough that I was able to get one for a second hand for just USD329.00, mint condition. Seemed like the first owner did not know how maximize its use and gave up photography. Presently saw all his gears are for sale from a used camera gear online website. Consistently, as you said, its sharp and I have validated all your tests! You tend to smile after you have taken a shot instead of a hovering question marks above your head :) Thank you for being there sharing your insights and reviews. With high regards.
Honest review. However from all these mentioned the Tokinas are best all around performer. For night photography specifically.
tokina has problems with cable - aperture (error 01) troubles with after 1 year using !
@@sergejkap.8045 even the 11-20?
@@Crisin666 it happened once - but rarely. I have another one it works fine.
Great review as always! I have the 10-18 STM and it's a real gem for the price.
Great selection of lenses. Your photos demonstrate that great photos depend more on the person's abilities than it does on the equipment. Kudos to you on the composition, lighting colors, and collecting and organizing all the information for the video.
Christopher, this is a very good comparison review!
Thanks a lot!
I purchased the Canon 10-18 recently.
I am very happy with it. Although at wide open apertures it causes hefty vignetting, at f/8 it is awesome. Moreover the 'IS' helps you with 4-stop stabilization! Simply incredible!
Even with f/8, you can catch up with shutter speeds of lenses with f/2.8 (that is exactly 4 stops!).
Excellent value and best price / performance!
I understand that some opinions are personal views of the reviewer and I'm okay with that. This review is fantastic! I just love the way it is made, smooth and to the point. Thank you. Great job!
Hello. Thank you for making this. I like your review style very much. The way they are narrated, the content, the video and samples. Everything is top-notch.
I wonder how these would do on high megapixel APS-C like the 90D or the R7?
As a Nikon user, I find your videos very useful.
+Aaron Yang Same with me, although only reviews of lenses from 3rd party producents are really interesting to me :)
Dude I love your videos
You both help me find my wide angle and standard lens for my T3i!
Thank you soo much! You are my favorite camera guy so far lol
I don't want to weight myself down or spend too much so think the STM is the best. Thanks for the review.
Hiya. How would the Sigma 8-16mm compare with the current ultra-wide RF lenses, as far as image quality? Waving from The Bahamas. :)
My 4 go-to lenses, all in one bag, thanks to Chris' videos:
Ultra Wide-angle: Tokina AT-X 11-16mm f/2.8 PRO DX MARK II.
Fast Standard Zoom: Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM.
Prime: Canon EF 50 f/1.8 STM II.
Telephoto: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM.
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Got all of them for $630/£489/€572 (all second-hand). I can cover from 11 to 250mm on my little Canon 750D (Rebel T6i).
Would love to see an updated version of this video :) However great info :)
I bought the Tokina 11-16 and I really like it. It's probably the best lens I've ever had, as far as optical and build quality. The only thing I don't like is the AF, which isn't enough accurate to be trusted each and every time, as I do with all my Canon lenses. Years ago I tried the Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6 and it was awful, it was ok in the center, but boy the conrners were unusable, and I tried on a less demanding 450D APS-C sensor; I can't imagine how bad can it be on a 24MP sensor...
Looking to get the Sigma 8-16mm due to it's the widest rectilinear apsc lens, and I value sharpness over all other specs.
I wonder how this would be on the Canon R7 :)
@@EricRoseBahamas I went with the Canon 10 to 18 mm ef-s lens. So glad I did! It was a lot cheaper takes really good pictures and has image stabilization for video which I use a lot!
Hi @Christopher Frost , Can make this test with the Canon R7
Hello, very helpfull video that helped me choosing my wide angle canon lense for 77d DSLR. Thank you. I appreciate your job.
And which one did you choose?
I found a couple filter systems for the Sigma 8-16mm - FotodioX and LucrOit - gonna give them a try!
Thanks for an objective review of the lenses. The benefits of each lens really helped me out.
Thanks Christopher, was looking forward to this video!
Thanks for the perfect vid!! I love your analysis and voice
I fully agree with Chris's assessment of these lens. Have to say Chris, I was shocked you didn't include any Samyang/Rokinon Lenses. I just got my Rok 14mm f/2.8 UMC lens in yesterday. Will be testing it out and doing a review in a month or so.
A very useful and well presented review Chris - Thanks
I dont think 10-18mm is a "rubbish zoom range" because most of us own kit Lenses with 18-55 Range (Or even the 17-50mm 2.8 which is a great Addon for the 10-18.). So all the Range ist covered from 10-55mm.
The 10-18 is sharper and than most of the others at half the cost. Out of all these Zooms, id get the 10-18. If i wanted a fast aperture (for stars f.e.) i'd get the Rokinon/Samyang/Walimex 12mm f2.0. It's pretty nice!
Stephan Wahlen did he say that? if so, I disagree with him, but I didn't hear him.
oh yes sorry i just heard it while rewatching the video for the hundredth time.
Thanks a lot for the recommendations. Excelent points to decide which one I can buy.
Amazing comparison for the lowish budget ultra wide market. Thank you!
Thank You! The best video about ultra wide angle.
I warn you about Tokina 11-20mm. Autofocus may not work accurately when focusing distances like 3-9 ft. Tested with Nikon D5300 & D90.
Excellent review and comparison. Thank you very much!
Maybe you can help. I wanna get the 16mm Sigma Wide lens for the c100 mark ii, but the lens has a EF-M mount. And so far, everywhere I look, I can't figure out if the lens is compatible with the c100 or not. If it isn't, is there another comparable wide PRIME lens that the c100 mark ii can use. I need a good wide prime lens for my arsenal. Thanks.
You are awesome, Chris! Thank you for your knowledge and time!
Thanks, you're welcome!
Among your videos I did not see a review of the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124 AF Pro DX, I've been using one of those and while it's OK it's not especially great. For a filmmaker it's probably excellent, but that sliding ring for focus is a little frustrating on a DSLR, I end up finding my focus shifts when trying to switch between modes.
There's a supposedly used low-use Canon 10-22mm locally available for $300, no hood. Given that it's been a few years since this comparison video was made, would you still look at the Canon 10-22mm as an excellent choice for DSLR and mirrorless, or does some newer lens for ultra wide angle appeal more now? If It matters I'm using a 24MP 77D and am considering getting an M50 for my wife. My principal use is indoors during the day. While f/3.5 isn't wonderful it's better than the 10-18mm and where I'd be using it, having as much zoom as possible would be handy for taking semi-candid family photos while still being able to zoom-out as my subjects get really close to me.
Excellent video, I have the Canon 10 18 which I bought after watching your review, I'm glad it came out as one of the top ones
Can you recommend this lens?
Chris, I just wanted to say thank you so much for all your videos. And all reviews they have been extremely helpful, to help me navigate and purchase the right lenses for my 70D. You help me, keep learning more about photography which I love so much. I Purchased the Canon 10-18 EFS STM Lens, for my huge trip to Europe, it took fantastic pictures and was exactly everything I wanted it to be. Thanks to you I got all the shots that I needed and wanted, in Paris London and Iceland. Thank you again so much for your reviews, for your very helpful advice, and for your comparison videos which are huge! Look forward to seeing more of your videos thank you again
+Erick Barron Glad you're finding the videos useful!
I ended up with the Sigma 10-20mm F4 lens. Maybe not the greatest lens, but I still have a lot of fun with it on my Nikon APS-C camera. It was a tough call, but I almost went with the Sigma 8-16mm lens. Now that was a fun lens, but the practical side of me decided to go for the 10-20mm.
Hi Christopher - your one of the best lens reviewers on the internet. One thing I'd like to see because it's hard to sometimes see the quality on TH-cam would be to have your famous brick wall pictures in full quality somewhere and linked on the video description?
thank you very much! impressed by your thoroughness! twas quite helpful!
This was excellent! Thank u so much for this review!
please update and include latest lens, if any, and post new video on wide lenes for aps-c. thanks.
Good review. Very helpful. Just had my 10-22mm lens. What filter can you recommend? Thanks
+Janzen Bersalona A 77mm slim polarizing filter
an uodated 2021 video of this?
hey chris so would you recommend the tokina 11-16 rather than the 11-20 for landscape / night photography? it seems that the 11-20 has many cons and the 11-16 gets the job done
+lenz_rawrs Take a look at the reviews for more details, but if there's a big difference in price then you might as well get the 11-16
Great work!!!
Thanks Christopher, must of taken you a long time to put this together
Everything is a compromise my photography brothers and sisters. I want good performance for landscapes, milky way stars and aurora, so got the tokina 11-16 2.8
Hey Christopher. I am a Nikon user and I do astrophotography. I've been shooting on an 18mm lens to get some wide angles on shots as I haven't invested in a star tracking set up yet and thus can't stitch photos together the way I would want to. I do some other non-astro photography as well, but it is always long exposure. I was wondering, given my usage, what your recommendation would be to capture the sharpest images of the night sky. Star trails tend to start around 20 seconds so ideally an aperture that allows me to use a lower ISO setting at 15 seconds would be great, but I am also willing to turn up my ISO settings if the lens really will produce a better shot.
+csantos2 It's really down to trial and error. If you have an APS-C camera then try a lens like the Samyang 16mm f/2. If you're on full-frame, then the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 might be good for you
Christopher Frost Photography Interesting. Are you suggesting that because of quality over the ones you reviewed (besides the Canon)? I was hoping to capture more in frame than I currently am at 18mm. I am going on a photo trip to Iceland this summer with a friend to get pictures of the night sky with some great landscapes in the foreground. I will probably also do some daylight stuff too. But I was looking at lenses around 10mm-12mm between F/1.8-F/3.5, although I know F/1.8 isn't realistic. Haha. But I have been torn between the Tokina 11-20mm and the Sigma 10-20mm, and have totally been hoping to find an ultra wide that finds a middle ground between those and the 2x more expensive Nikkor 10-24mm.
+csantos2 Other options might be the Tokina 11-16 (or 11-20) f/2.8, or waiting for the new Tokina 14-20mm f/2 which should be coming out soon
hmm.. do filters exist that are like, 82mm diameter but not made entirely of glass? like.. plastic with a glass bit that's only like, 50mm or so?
Hey! Just a quick question - is the Tokina 11-16 in this review the mark II version? Big fan of the review style, by the way.
+OhLookTopComment I think it was the Mark i...I can't remember to be honest! They're both virtually the same, apparently
+Christopher Frost Photography The reason I ask is that the specific difference seems to be an improved nano coating that greatly reduces lens flare, which was the major complaint mentioned in the optics portion. Since the zoom range won't affect me very much for what this lens would be doing, and with the sharpness and otherwise strong optics for currently ~ $400 on amazon, it seems like quite an attractive option since I intend on also buying a high end polarizing filter. I'm just a tad worried if the flare on the mark II isn't quite as improved as I had maybe thought.
Hello Mr Christopher thank you very much for the best videos for cameras gear on you tube , I have 10-18mm f4.5-5.6 and I would like to have the best ultra wide angle lens for my eos 90D , lens that gives a lot more than the 10-18 specificly for landscape photography .
Thanks
Hello, Chris!
Do you mind making a review for Tokina 12-28mm versus the Tokina 12-24mm? I sold my Canon 10-18mm as I tend to swap it out to another lens when I feel limited to its 18mm range.
+soundofenigma I'm tempted to test the 12-28, but it'll be a little while as I have a lot of other lenses to cover first
Hi Chris!
I'm considering to buy my first ultra wide lens and after watching the video 10-18mm is looking like a good deal! I'm also very interested in Samyang's ultra wide-angle lenses so which one from Samyang would you recommend to compare with the canon. I'm using Canon 70D and image sharpness and quality are the most important aspects for me.
Thanks Chris for your advice!
+TupsuRS Samyang have a 10mm f/2.8 which I haven't tested yet. They also do a very good 8mm f/3.5 fisheye lens :-)
+Christopher Frost Photography Thanks for your reply! I'm looking forward seeing your review of that Samyang 10mm
+TupsuRS If you are going to do a review about the Samyang 10mm it would be great if you could rate it the same way you did in this video so it would be easier to compare it with other lenses! I would also like to know how many stars the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 would get :)
Thanks!
I know this video is getting on a bit but it's still very relevant! Chris, I currently have the Canon 10-18 although I have been offered a 2nd hand Tokina 11-16mm (DXii) for £240 so is it worth the change at this price or should I just stick with my canon?
Personally I'd stick with the Canon lens unless you desperately need f/2.8
Thanks Chris! I actually got a chance to sample the Tokina for a morning and in comparison tests with my 10-18 I actually think the 10-18 performs better. As you say the Tokina's main selling point is the 2.8 but I have the Sigma 17-70 f2.8 (again thanks to you) so I don't think I need a super wide angle fast lens as well. The CA on the Tokina is horrendous granted 99% of this can be removed in photoshop.
Hi Chris!! Would you recommend any of the Tokina lenses for astrophotography? Thanks!
Never really tried them for astrophotography but they should be okay
Hi Christopher, which thrid party lens would be good for say thunderstorm images, where you get lightning plus some landscape detail ?. I would be using it on a Canon 7DMKII and my budget would be around 300 to 750. I'd like to know your thoughts, cheers.
+Jay Wolf just about any lens should be fine I think, if its field of view captures the landscape you want. You'll probably want a special lightning trigger device which you can buy for your camera. Take a look online for more info about lightning photography
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Thanks Christopher, yes i have the trigger I was just wondering in which lens would be the sharper. Anyway, wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas and great work on all your videos over this year and past, top job.
Christopher Frost Photography I'd Like a review on the Mark 2 version of the 11-16 Tokina 2.8 lens!
Hi, Christopher. First of all, thank you very much for the so incredible and systematic work you do in this videos. You are my first reference when I update my equipment little by little and nowadays I'm thinking on buying the Canon EF-S 10-18. Let me ask you a question that worries me: a second information I use is the well-known dxomark tests and, in the case of the Canon EF-S 10-18, it gets a very poor performance in terms of sharpness. What are these people doing? Your images on the corners demonstrate the opposite. Have you any explanation? Thanks a lot!!!
I pay absolutely zero attention to DXOMark. I have no idea how their testing procedure works but they come up with some baffling stuff. They have some real fanboys out there, though
For the Sigma 8-16mm's price, you can get the Canon 10-18 and a Samyang 8mm fisheye. Now that's a nice combo for going ultra-wide. I have the Canon 10-18 and it's a great lens. I'm planning to buy the Samyang 8mm fisheye.
Very nice video comparison.
Cristian Stancu That's a good point! Although remember, the fisheye lens obviously gives a lot of distortion, which is intentional. With the Sigma 8-16 lens, straight lines remain straight.
Christopher Frost Photography Yes, that's true. I guess it is great to have a 8mm rectilinear lens. Although you could straighten the 8mm fisheye image, with a bit of processing, if needed.
I would definitely like to have both lenses in my bag.
Cristian Stancu You could stretch the images, but of course there would be lower image quality. But yeah, I agree, I'd much rather have the 10-18 and Samyang 8mm myself :-)
what do you recommend lens little distortion and af feature for apsc
very useful and great video. very well explained hence subscribed. this video really helped. God bless you.
Hello
So to summarize, if I want to shoot some indoor flats (Airbnb) for example…
Do you suggest a tokina 11-16 (20) or a Sigma 8-16 mm ???
Thanks ;)
Igor Laski The Tokina will let in more light, and be easier to use. But the 8-16 will give you an angle so wide that your flats will look huge (if that's what you want)
Oh i see.... But diff between 8 and 11 is really huge?
Do u have sample pic of a fiat /room, with both lenses maybe ?
ModestyDj Yes, it's quite a big difference. Take a look at my review of the Sigma 8-16 to get an idea of how wide it really goes. All the best!
hi Chris, do you have a review for UWA lenses for Canon full frame? I'm using 5D Mark ii and I'm looking for an affordable UWA lens. thank you in advance
I don't have one yet
Hi Christ,
I want to know your opinion about the Laowa 12mm f/2.8 Zero D between the lenses you choose in this test.
Thanks
hi chris, great review as always. would you also review the Canon EF-M 11-22mm? Thanks!
A review of that lens is coming
I was thinking of getting the Canon 80d but would prefer a UWA prime, has you tried the EF 14mm?
+Derren Hodson No I haven't but from what I hear of its performance it's good but horrifically overpriced.
Sharper but costs about five to ten times more than any of these lenses
I really want to get a Tokina 11-16 mm but what about the auto-focus noise, I've heard it's pretty annoying?
Depends how easily you are triggered by that kind of thing hehe
@@christopherfrost yea..) i've landed on Sony 16-55mm f2.8 G it's kind of all-in-on
Hey,
I'm going on a trip soon and I was looking at getting an ultra wide lens for landscapes. I have a canon 600d, the lenses I was looking at are the Canon 10-18mm 4.5-5.6 STM, the Samyang 16mm f2, and the Samyang 14mm f2.8. I am comfortable using manual focus and I am leaning towards the 16mm because it has filter threads, its sharp, and it has a fast aperture. I would really appreciate a recommendation because you seem to know your stuff about lenses, thanks!
Jacob Macy For a trip I would go with the 10-18mm, which I have myself. You get flexibility with zoom, IS helps you compensate somewhat the slow aperture, and it is compact and light lens. For landscapes you would stop down to the sweet spot anyway, so it's great match I would say. For the money it's really great value, real surprise from Canon :)
Excellent review 👌
Hi there, I just subscribed! Loving your detailed reviews with informative image samples, keep it up!
I'm choosing between a Canon 10-18mm and a 10-22mm and driving myself crazy trying to decide, each of those lenses has its strong side.
I'm getting a Canon 77d and the next lens I have is a 24-70mm. Not really sure if a 2-6mm gap is going to bother me.
I need a lens for shooting interior in tight, fairly dark spaces and also landscapes in mostly sunny weather. I might get into taking a bit of video but again not sure (my previous 550d didn't give me that option).
The price difference doesn't really matter, since I've already found a used (but almost new) 10-22mm in the same price range as the 10-18mm...
Please help, any advice would be really appreciated!!
I'd just go for the 10-18. Where it lacks in maximum aperture, it has image stabilization to help
I am facing the same situation like yours. A used Canon 10-22mm (about the same price) or new 10-18mm. Chris pointed out that the IS helps to over come the smaller aperture and I have two pro photographers commenting that don’t be deceived by the look of this new 10-18mm lens, it looks cheap but it creates very sharp images. Hmmm... puzzle! 10-22mm just give you better useful range and the metal mount means a lot to me... tough choices
@@minbuichai4512 what did you choose?
@@ErikvonStrongber neither. I ended up getting a used (near new) EF16-35mm F4L IS USM lol. As I have planned getting myself a full frame body in 2020. But, I would recommend, like Chris does, the 10-18mm STM.
Very good video. Extremely helpful. Thank you
Is this tokina at-x 11-20mm or newer atx-i 11-20mm weather sealed ? Specially for nikon one ?
Good morning Christopher,
Fisrt of all I would like to thank you for this video and all the other videos that your making, very helpful and getting a clearer idea on what I'm looking for.
Would you please if you have some time make other videos for all best lenses types for aps-c canon cameras??
Here you have covered the wide and ultra-wide angle, I saw the fast standard lens as well, but didn't find one for telephoto, super telephoto lenses comparison.
Thank you for your efforts.
May God bless you.
Cheers.
I don't currently have time for too many comparison videos I'm afraid but maybe sometime in the future :-)
@@christopherfrost thank you for your efforts.
Asides from the lens here are there any particular wide angles you would suggest? Are there any cheaper lens that arent that bad?
You want more?! This is it I'm afraid (except the Samyang 10mm f/2.8)
As a high school student my budget is way down there. Great video tho
Thanks very much, amazing review that helps me a lot, thank u again
Greetings, I really like your reviews, especially that you divide your videos in 3 parts. Basic 1st impression, then contrast & color aberration, then distortion & vignetting.
I am looking for a ultra wide for my D7200. The Tokina 14-20 F/2 seems quite good. Would you do a review for that?
I don't have any plans to at the moment. I will look out for one, though
Thanks, you are the best. What is your opinion about Sigma 10mm F2.8 EX DC HSM? I know its old lens, but its 2.8
The footage you had under the pier, was that Aberystwyth? Looked an awful lot like it
Yup, well done.
Among those lenses, which lenses can be used for full frame & also APS-C camera? Thx
Hi Christopher! Thank you for the great video.
I am looking to buy a new gear next month and I've been very confused about what to buy. My old setup was a Canon Xti with Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye that I use for skydiving. I am going to buy the Canon EOS Rebel T6i and for lens I am between: Tokina 10-17mm F/3.5-4.5 DX Autofocus Fisheye, Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM or the Canon EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM, but this would be my last option since the price is double of the other, also double of the weight and is only f/4. What would be the best option? Should I just keep the Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye? Which I don't see much wider when using with my xti.
Thank so much.
Peace
+BrazilianShark I'd go for the Samyang 8mm f/3.5. It's manual focus but works perfectly
+Christopher Frost Photography I need something with autofocus :/
Thanks brother
+BrazilianShark AF isn't that important on a fisheye lens, really. I think there is a Sigma 10mm f/2.8 fisheye lenses available with AF though
how would you rate these lenses in regards to the audibility of the autofocus in videos? Which are the quietest? Were there any that the noise was not picked up by the camera? I love the detail you put into these videos BTW!
I can personally say the Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 is a bit audible in videos. No experience with the rest 😟
+Calvin Hodgson since posting this comment, I bought the Canon 10-22mm lens. While it is definitely audible, and is picked up by the built in camera mic, it does not get picked up by my external mic attached to the top of the camera.
+Alex Young (iAlexYoung) Nice.
Hi, i was wondering if you could make a review of the lens Rokinon cine 10mm T3.1 on full frame and APSC cameras please.
One will come out eventually. Now please stop spamming my channel
I apologize, most of the youtubers doesn't answer with one post, i thought that i might had more chances with 3, but i sincerely sorry, wont happen again. great channel, keep going.
Having trouble choosing UWA lens for Sony A mount, its sad that Sony doesn't have good UWA lenses for their APS-C cams. I didn't find any third party lenses appealing. However I am shortlisting Tokina 11-16mm and Sigma 10-20 f3.5. Any suggestions are welcome.
my sigma 10-20mm is better then yours also what camera did you test this on? did it have micro adjustment if so did you adjust it?
+Chaz Madge There are wide sample variations (quality control) with the Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6. Mine is better than Christopher's too! I just got lucky with collimation QC I guess.
Would you choose sigma 10-20 f3.5 or tokina 11-20 2.8 for video work? The tokina is more expensive, but is it also that much better?
If you're shooting manual focus, the Tokina with its brighter aperture. If you need autofocus the Sigma's AF motor will be a bit quieter
Hi I'm using Canon 77D. I'm looking for a wide angle len with small budget. By the way, i'm really interested Canon 10-22 f3.5 and Sigma 10-20 f3.5. Could you recommend one of these? Thanks.
Why not watch the video? That's what it's there for.
Great video, Chris! I love UWA-photography.
What slightly bothered me is the blurred white background of the charts on the right side. Just a little distracting as it covered part of the test shots:)
Hi Chris... Thank you for reviewing the ultra wide lenses. Very helpful indeed. Quick question: between Canon 10-18 mm and Sigma 8-16 mm, which one is your personal favorite and why?
+imut255 They're different. If money were no object I'd probably go for the Sigma for that cool 8mm focal length
Hi Christopher,
can I use this lens for astrophotography? because it doesn't have infinity setting I wounder how it can be set for focusing, sharpness. thank you The Canon 10-18 mm
Chris, I spent a year in South Korea; wish I would have taken pictures!
what about Nikon DX users? which Nikon ultra wide angle lens is better apart from third part?
Thank you for the reviews. They are very helpful. I wanted to ask you for your opinion about a wide angle lens for landscapes. I'm planning a trip to Iceland and want to make sure I have a good lens when I go. I'm torn between the sigma models and the tokina. I'd love to hear your thoughts about which you would grab for landscapes. Thanks again.
+Justin Hora Check out this video, and see what will be best for you :-)
Hi christ, im in a dilemma, I can't choose between the sigma 10-20 3.5 and 4-5.6. i got quite a good deal for a 2nd hand 4-5.6 for about 190 USD, or i could get a new 3.5 for 460 USD. Does the improvements in the lens justify the difference in price?
Definitely not- i have had both and they are very similar in performance. Not bad lenses, but As Chris says- soft in corners. Seeing this review i am tempted to swap Sigma 3.5 for Canon 10-18, get sharper lens and have some cash left over.
Christopher i am looking for a lens purely for real estate but after i am based in asia we have a lot of sunlight and most photos will be made when the sun shine i been looking at the Tokina 11-16mm and now the Tokina 11-20mm what are your opinion about my choice and would any filter help me at all ?
Flashdaddy1 A polarising filter might be helpful. These Tokina lenses are good - but another nice option would be the Canon 10-18mm STM. Watch my ultra wide-angle lens comparison video for more ideas!
As a lover of Samyang why didn't you test the 10mm F/2/8?
I hadn't tested it at the time of this video, and also, this is a video about zoom lenses
Have you ever noticed that when you use a very sharp lens it takes a long time to process in a RAW workflow? I know this question is out from left field, sorry ahead of time.
@@slammermx It wouldn't surprise me
Thanks for the summary!
OHMYGOD could you make a filter with ANOTHER filter thread which you could attach a smaller filter to in the middle? That's such a good idea!!!!!
I was just looking for a wide-angle lens :) very helpful, thanks!