@LowkoTV Wait... Lowko from Starcraft/Frostpunk? Great now the different channels i watch are conversing.... perhaps talking about me behind my back? PARANOIA!
Sounds like this needs to be sent to every politician on the planet that argues in favor of backdoors on encryption, as almost none of them actually understand that _a backdoor in encryption is a backdoor for _*_everyone_*_, and the backdoor _*_cannot_*_ distinguish a "good guy" from a "bad guy."_
i think they know but its still better to give the burglar access as well than having inpenetrable houses for you to do who knows what inside, the internet is a double edged sword its too free for governments and industries to just trust the users to act responsible and too free to be controlled within the limits of most constitutions which blurres the lines that separate what a state is allowed to do and what not which in turn gives the government too much power for the people to trust it to act responsible with that power
Which is odd, because physical locks also can't distinguish between a good guy and a bad guy-just someone who can shove the pins in the right way and someone who can't.
furthermore a "private government key" is only going to be "private" for a short period of time, and after that - all locks are open for everyone. also beeing part of of the government/police/whatever doesn't mean you're not a criminal.
+JohannaMueller57 that is my biggest problem with this. the FBI is full of criminals with badges that do the exact same thing the criminals are doing, with the only difference being their stated intent and government sanctioning. its like having a known house robber insist that he have a master key to get into your house quickly and easily, but only for "official business".
Brilliant. Very important to raise awareness of these issues. Breaking into a terrorists phone today leads to breaking into a "terrorists" phone tomorrow leads to breaking into your phone next week.
Digital locks that wipe information when tampered with is no different than a physical safe that destroys its contents when forcefully opened. As a consumer, it's my decision if I want such a feature. If the government attempts to make such things illegal, the criminals that want such features will simply create (or hire someone to create) such features.
It's really not hard, you can find pseudo code for encryption with a simple google, so you don't even have to understand how the encryption works to build it.
@@damnstupidoldidiot8776 What if you are tortured for the password by some organization in the US government that has a history of (secret) kidnap and torture of citizens (*cough* most of them *cough*)? In particular I would suggest a likely candidate to be a 3 letter agencies starting with C (see M K Ultra) that illegally operates on US soil all the time and has said they want everything the America public believes to be false (about everything I guess? it wasn't specific enough but it seems to have been successful and not just in the US). Then you need an unbreakable lock whose box is also undetectable and a decoy box or a box that destroys itself immediate when you give them the wrong password.
@@sadrien if they’re already torturing you and you open you show them nothing’s in your phone they’ll just keep going asking where the other phone is. Once your in that room they’re no convincing them they got the wrong guy
"Forced weakness, even with the best of intentions, places everyone in danger... No matter how much we might wish it, there is no way to build a digital lock that only angels can open and demons can not. Anyone saying otherwise is either ignorant of the mathematics, or less of an angel than they appear." Nailed it.
Have the software store two copies: one is encrypted with the whatever key the user wants, and the other is encrypted with a public key to which the private counterpart is retained by the angels. Part of the definition of angels is that they won't maliciously hand over their key to the demons. If the lock on your copy is unbreakable, so is the lock on the access-by-warrant copy. It's clunky, doubling the storage requirement. But the point is to demonstrate that it's possible, not to figure out the best way.
+joojr2779 Get medeco locks and make sure your doors and windows are not ancient and you'll be fine.. sure they can still take a battering ram to it, but the rarely do. Only a tiny amount of the worlds population can get into a medeco in under 20 minutes :)
+joojr2779 i have left the dorr open of my house whe i when to work by accident and i live in a crime infested third world country and nothing was stolen.
+joojr2779 Ever watched a fire department perform a "forcible entry"? They can get into a standard locked and deadbolted front door in 30 seconds, they pretty much pry it off the frame. And in the case of a high security door they'll simply go through the drywall next to the door. Locked doors are more about not being an easy target than being an impenetrable barrier.
The wild watermelon was once top of the food chain, having no natural predators able to break into their locks. For millennium they reined supreme, and it was an era of peace and love. Then humans discovered the watermelon. Being naturally curious, they wondered what was inside, so they chose two watermelons with the smallest and weakest locks and forced them to breed. They then took those offspring and once again forced the weakest locks to bread. They did this for generation to generation of watermelon, until eventually we arrive at the modern watermelon, a shadow of its former glory, with no locks to protect themselves.
The best articulation of the pro-encryption argument I have heard to date. "The nature of the internet is to bring demons to the door." That may be the best line you have ever put in one of your videos.
The unsolvable issue: Bad people are more willing to do anything to get in, but good people have morals that keep them from using tools bad people use.
I feel like it should also be mentioned that we had a master key debacle before: The Blu ray encryption key leak (AKA the AACS encryption key leak). All Blu-rays are encrypted via the same key, a key that "only angels" had access to, as per the video. Of course, one "devil" gets the key, and it's shotgunned all over the internet. Now everyone knows the 09F9 code and can find it on wikipedia. What happens when Snowden releases the cell phone master key to the world, or Lt. Cmdr. Lin sells it to the Chinese? It's amazing how naive politicians are when we have an example from the past week that there are "devils" in our police/intelligence community.
Yeah, we need more cryptographers and/or people who thoroughly understand the mathematics and possible effects the politician's relatively in-practice ineffective or devastating ideas might create to collaborate with lawmakers.
Why would snowden release the master cell phone key to the world when all he has done is argue against government spying and in favor of digital rights? You actually could not have picked a worse person to strawman.
@@blackfalcon1324 Because he leaked NSA data before? I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I think he's a hero for bringing to light what the NSA was doing. He's exactly the sort of person who would leak the master cell phone key because **the master cell phone key allows for government spying**. He'd release it so that cell phone manufacturers would be forced to abandon it, and so that the public would know about it. Point is, whether it's an hero of the people or a spy of the enemy, there will never be a key that "only angels" have access to.
Nice idea, store your password for everything in a plaintext file you made with notepad, then tell everyone on youtube. The file isn't named password.txt I hope
Hey, I'm from East Whateverlandia and I take great personal offense to that comment about burglarizing foreigners. >:( Some of us like to take care of home first. :D
…I… I seriously thought he said "Eastwood, Everlandia", and thought it was a clever but weirdly random and specific name for a fictional place. Thanks for setting me straight…
@@abandonedchannel72929 you are all so stupid. We are all united now. United into the Glorious Republic of Whateverlandia. Forget these silly and childish divides
Elvis? No but seriously we know what Area 51 is... it's not a storage for Aliëns or Elvis for that matter, it's a military testing ground. New fighther jets and other weapons are tested there. During the Cold war they needed a secret base because Soviet spies where EVERYWHERE (becuz murica was so nice to everyone it's hard to believe the KGB was able to recruit people).
By this logic, write down your Facebook's ID and Password here now why not ? because "If you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear."
that's a fail statement from the very first phrase "don't have anything to hide" find me one person in the 7 billions that fit the criteria baby don't count because they don't have any information of the world to have secret, yet
This video is incredible! You took this huge topic and broke it down to only the information needed to understand it and also made it entertaining. That is an art form that most people dont have the time and (more important) the talent for. And I am allowed to enjoy this for free, thank you!
+Bernard Cernea I don't personally understand how quantum computing works as I've seen conflicting anecdotal information in regards to it. On the one hand it will allow us to do tremendous amounts of calculations that modern cpu technologies can't reach, and then on the other hand I've seen that the kind of calculations it can do aren't practical for our everyday use. So I dunno ... I just thought his chart was humorous.
Yes they can you stupid idiot. Look up Shor's algorithm. A quantum computer which implements enough qubits and Shor's algorithm can wreck any kind of encryption exponentially faster than classical computers.
"Forced weakness puts everyone in danger". You really hit the nail on the head when pertaining to gov't policy. If a gov't demands their citizens have phones that they can easily unlock, they are not in the business of protecting their citizens or their privacy. Really makes you think about how out-of-touch the US Gov't is lately.
+falconer02 Right and not just the US government but governments all over the world are following the same path. One of the big issues is trying to separate which ones of our representatives are malicious and which ones are just ignorant. The average age of a US senator is 62 years. Congressperson is 57 years. Most of these people had were finished with college before my parents were out of highschool! They know nothing about technology or the concepts.
Thank you for this video. I'm tired of all these idiots unaware of their own rights that will say "if you have nothing to hide you should be okay with it".
+TheNerdyResponder Policeman say "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", but when you ask Policeman to wear a camera while he works he suddenly thinks it's a bad idea.
+TheNerdyResponder Oh yes, some of my real-life friends who are otherwise not that stupid say they have nothing to hide. It really makes me wonder what will come of this world when so many are unaware of the implications of all these legal backdoors to encryption and government spying.
All I get at present is stock-market apps. And thanks to the internet (bless its little silicon heart) the only thing that enters my mind in response to those is STONKS!
There was a wonderfull time when france forced insecure internet encryption. So the meta for attacking someone was to spoof the connection so their computer thought they where connecting TO france and dropped the encryption to match, even though neither the person nor the server where in france. Then the hackers attacked the week encryption
+Valpas Kankaristo Password's aren't the same as encryption though. An encryption key is basically a password, but is different for each program/website/etc., but is usually something that the person doesn't know. In a perfect world passwords/keys wouldn't be something a human could even remember. That's why more secure two-factor authentication methods are being implemented where there's a chip in your card that has a code that nobody knows (until someone puts it into a machine reader) plus you have a PIN number that works in conjunction with that chip to make the REAL key. Lets say the chip says Aek#949sJ$3i2nns, and your pin is "1239", it could splice them together as the key 1-4,1-4,1-4,1-4: 1Aek#2949s3J$3i92nns
+Luke M Because of the point made in this video. There is no such thing as "angels" that would only use this kind of backdoor for good. You might at some point in your life have had opinions or values, or even had some sort of event in your life that you would not want others to know. Allowing these backdoors would mean that these would always be accessible. If you are convinced that your country and or government would never use information about you to pressure you into choices you are naive. An opinion that you have or had could suddenly be used against you. Banning encryption is a huge step towards a police state and furthermore, enabling these backdroors means they at some point would be leaked, allowing for criminals to access your information. Encryption is freedom of speech. Making it illegal only empowers the goverments. They want to use crime and terrorism as a reason for making it illegal but the fact is that encryption is only used for that in very small ammounts on the whole. The bombings in paris were made with conversations through open medias, not using encryption. Encryption is your right to freedom of speech, don't forget that and don't be so fast to trust your governments and hand them the keys to your life, your freedom is nothing that is carved in stone.
+Luke M There are multiple parts to that. "I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear" is like "I have nothing (controversial) to say, so I don't need free speech" and a little bit of "they took the Jews, but I was not a Jew. They took the ill, but I was not an ill. They took the gay, but I was not a gay" So even if it doesn't effect you personally, it can effect society overall. In our society, most ppl do things that are legal, but they don't want everybody to know. Ppl have committed suicide due to nude image of them being leaked. Now imagine a government or a criminal organization that wants to control ppl or silence their opposition. They could blackmail opposing ppl with private information, or leak private information to change the mind of the public. (An affair; some guild of association, cause they have a communist friend,...) Think Edgar Hover who had FBI files about every celebrity and politician and used the power of information to intimidate many.
Oh and I don't think it is an idiotic, but a naive argument. It makes some sense at first sight, so I would always favor to explain why, than to just state, that it is "idiotic". (Even though I might do that aswell)
I absolutely love your videos CGPGrey, they're always wonderfully educational and thoroughly entertaining. Also, you have a beautiful voice, you should hit audible up and see if they'll let you narrate a book.
+brent bousquet A MUCH needed breath of sanity. The number of people I argue with about this very subject. Only yesterday in fact. Most folk apparently imagine the "authorities" can and are tracking and recording absolutely everything everyone is doing. People let their imaginations run away with them.
Plus I'm sure you could hire someone to throw together a program that when the police key is used, all files are moved to a secondary location, and the originals deleted. Hell, the companies making the locks might add it themselves.
@@thomaswang2223 I think they meant this is a method to trick the police. The police wouldn't know about the second location or the key trigger, so they'd think they got in while, in reality, they'd only ever see what you wanted them to.
Thanks for getting me through an essay about the Fourth amendment of the Constitution because I was able to sort of connect it to this much more interesting topic!
Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Hbomberguy. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering. -Neil Red. -Viced Rhino.
Funny password trick for making sure you have different passwords on everything but it's easy to remember: Take you favourite word, Write it with a capital first letter. Take the first and last letter of the site/app the password is for and write those. Take three numbers from your phone number. Big letters, small letters and numbers, but easy to remembers even as you end up with codes like Titfk876, Titye876 etc
honestly requiring caps and numbers and special characters is unnecesarry. what you really need from people is longer passwords. allhorseseatwelshgrass is dramatiaclly more secure than ssZx12k
@@ymmijx6061 if one of your accounts are compromised and the site or platform doesn't encrypt password information, length doesn't matter. When the leaked information is sold by the hackers, others will try to use the same password for other platforms. The real winner is variety. Which is why a formula securing variety is smart. Big and small letters is just because some platforms require it. So adding it to your formula makes sure you can use it anywhere.
AES encryption (symmetric, same password to encode and decode) is still basically secure, only RSA (the asymmetric prime number modulus stuff, different key to encode and decode) is made easily breakable
@@coolguy284_2 yeah only asymmetric encryption is f*** up. Oh wait almost every internet security protocols use asymmetric encryption, at least for sharing a symmetric key. I don't feel like calling every website to get a symmetric key while browsing..
+Scott Ferrell They didn't figure it out by themselves, They got an Israeli company called Cellebrite Mobile Synchronization which specializes in data extraction and mobile forensics to do it for them.
+Princess Luna Then who was it? Every article I've read regarding it points to Cellebrite, Including one site who posted a purchase order claiming it to be related to the case with Cellebrite's US division as the vendor and DOJ/FBI as the ones who contracted it out.
Phone manufactures including finger print locks are a way for the govt to force you to unlock your phone when you have been arrested. Your password as text is considered speech and can not be forced, your finger print is physical evidence.
5 Years Later: Not only have most modern countries passed one version of that law or another, turns out it barely mattered to begin with. Agencies have ALWAYS been able to break into phone, they just wanted to make it easier on themselves. Was revealed this year actually that phones are surprisingly easy to break into thanks to different levels of security based on its status n if ud turned it off recently.
Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff, cause why not? Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)... Here: -Veritasium. -Its ok to be smart. -Oversimplified. -Krosmo. -Believe it or Not. -Redditor. -Hbomberguy. -Michio Kaku. -Practical Engineering. -Neil Red. -Viced Rhino.
this is one of the most well done grey video ive seen in a long time. funny/clever writing, informative (duh), and it has such a suave atmosphere to it. don't get me wrong, i loved the star trek and "guns, germs, and steel" videos, but for some reason this one really stand out. great job.
This is not only about freedom vs safety but also about safety vs safety. A breakable lock would not only take away freedom from all of us but also personal safety. The phone contains just about every information about you that exists. Imagine how easy it would be for bad guys to hurt you if they had it all...
It isn't freedom vs safety. Someone would think that safety is more important and is a valid position. Keeping your privacy is freedom and safety, and cooperating with the police is just "safety". So it would be freedom and safety vs "safety". The reason I write "safety" is because it isn't really safety. Is what CGP Grey is trying to say. Giving the police the key imply that a bad person would also be able to crack that key, so looking for safety wouldn't be safety at all.
+Broodrooster24 I don't see this as a response to the Apple-FBI debacle. The FBI went through law to try and get Apple to disable the 10 attempts and the device is wiped lock, maybe something that should be a setting controlled by Apple. Once disabled it still would have taken 50 years for the FBI to break the encryption or maybe not. Every device is hackable, even if Apple would rather have you believe that it isn't. I don't want Apple or any other tech company to build in breakable keys, that as this video says would be a really bad idea, but cooperation on not wiping the device after a number of attempts and maybe even advice on getting access to a dead terrorists iPhone, and just his iPhone no one else's, would surely be in the public interest. I don't think any of us want terrorists to operate knowing that they can communicate without being traced do we? Or do we need another 9/11 to make us realise that certain things should not be made untrackable.
nick012000 There should be some way that somewhere unconnected to the digital world there is a copy of a key, or something that would allow law enforcement after having been through a court of law to obtain said key and gain access. Couldn't this be created as Apple, Samsung, LG, HTC, and others do this before sale, hard coded into the phone itself and impossible to gain access to as it isn't in the connected online world? Do you really want criminals or terrorists to have somewhere they can hide all their contacts and communications so that nobody can find it?
Police can enter our homes with a warrant, but nobody leaves their front door constantly standing wide open to let any random person wander in, which is what encryption backdoors amount to.
Basic rule: If someone, other than the person with the info, has the decryption code, then it's not encrypted anymore. Want the data of your company to be safe? Then only people that NEED to access such data can have access to it, everyone else should be blocked. So, giving the government they "key" to every lock, is basically unlocking all lock alltogether.
Bomb in an orphanage, defusal code stored on file with unbreakable password, person who knows password is dead. Now find a way to fix that without messing with the bomb (we're going to assume that it's unreachable).
Paul Smith Evacuate the orphange. If you don't have time to that, you really don't have time for anything else. After that, there are over a thousand methods to defuse said bomb, even blowing it up. If the bomb is just impossible to reach by any means, then probabily it's just so safe that, when it explodes, it will most likely not cause much damage.
I was part of a criminal trial and while I was in a mental hospital they said they needed my password to my iPhone 4. They said if i didn't give it to them they would break into my phone and the way they were going to do it would break my phone... I didn't want them to open my phone... Does this mean I never had to give the court my password?
The disarm code for a nuclear weapon in a major city is on the phone All sane reasonable people want the police to be able to unlock that phone The problem is whatever they use to unlock that phone will unlock all phones, thus the problem.
It's easy to think of such situations. For example: pedophile has location of victim on his phone. Somewhere, a five year old is going to starve to death in the dark, unless the police get into the phone. Do you want them to get it open?
@@spambot7110 Yes, that's the problem the video is about. There's extreme situations we can all agree it'd be great for police to access phones, but we have no way to ensure that a backdoor will only be used well. Sometimes we want police to be able to get into phones, there's just no acceptable method to allow them to.
i'm saying i don't want them to ever have access. not because it fundamentally weakens the phone against untrustworthy third parties, but because the police themselves are untrustworthy.
To make the statement at the end of the video rhyme and sound better, here is my version of it: It is impossible to make a lock that angles can use and demons cannot anyone who says other is either ignorant of the mathematics or not as much of an angle as you thought.
As someone somewhat profession at network security, I’ve to admit the moment I realize you were on the topic of network security I was expecting you to screw up as those don’t program explain what programming is. But you really did your research and the content is plain while being accurate.
CGP Grey forgot to mention the fact that criminals with a strong enough will will always be able to circumvent encryption backdoors whether it be by using another program, making their own or using older or foreign hardware to communicate. It simply reduces privacy for the majority of the population who can't be bothered to do such things.
Suppose some government has the warrant to enter your home. In America if you comply and allow the police in, they search your things and, so long as there isn't a warrant for your arrest, you get to stay home and watch them. You know what they get, where they go, and what they have changed. Even in the circumstance where you don't get to watch (at least in America) there is a discovery system by which you can still find out everything they know about your case. At the end of the day, in every scenario, the government (US) still has to come to my front door, alerting me that they are interested in what I have inside, and if they have a permit, legally allowing them to enter the space by any means necessary. If the government, instead of following that process, decided to go to the company that made the lock on my front door, and had that company install a master key system by which they could open any lock, the government would then have the ability to enter my house when I am not there, searching the space without my presence, consent, or even my knowledge of it happening. Maybe even damaging, hiding, or taking things without alerting me. This lack of accountability is most people's concern when it comes to digital security. If the Government is to enter my phone, I want the same rights as they were to enter any other property of mine. I need to be alerted, shown papers proving legitamacy of their right, and given the opportunity to consent. This is my main concern. When the Government goes to the company who created the lock, rather than the individual who purchased it, the individual is no longer a part of the equation. For these backdoor systems to be created, the American people would need to be consulted, and we would need to consent to waiving those right for the promise of greater security as citizens, however we are not. We are being put in the high chair while the government and big business figure out what our privacy's value is worth in dollars. My second concern is that, so far, no government agency is willing to prove the legitamacy of the risk of searching our digital tools. If someone comes to me with a warrant to enter my home, and I can prove that the warrant is faulty (wrong date, wrong address, wrong person) they leave my house. If they don't leave my house and decide to enter anyway, they waive the right to use any of the evidence that they find in the case, meaning that the risk of losing evidence is always far greater than the reward of getting it. If a backdoor system is created in my digital property, I have 0 opportuinity to contest the legitamacy of a warrant, and that means that whoever has that key can go wherever they want. Spending time on your digital property, sifting through your things, and hearing and seeing everything you say and do. It's a textbook violation of the fourth ammendment, expanded into the digital world.
My dad told me a phrase that I often now also recite (in the proper context): "All locks do is keep honest people honest."
I always heard it as "A lock can only keep honest people out."
I'll be using these from now on
Is your dad a lawyer?
This is a brilliant way to explain how digital security works to people that are familiar with it, but also for those that have absolutely no clue.
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@LowkoTV Wait... Lowko from Starcraft/Frostpunk? Great now the different channels i watch are conversing.... perhaps talking about me behind my back? PARANOIA!
LOWKO IT IS YOU.. YOU WATCH CGP GREY VIDEO... I like your videos btw. :)
Sounds like this needs to be sent to every politician on the planet that argues in favor of backdoors on encryption, as almost none of them actually understand that _a backdoor in encryption is a backdoor for _*_everyone_*_, and the backdoor _*_cannot_*_ distinguish a "good guy" from a "bad guy."_
i think they know but its still better to give the burglar access as well than having inpenetrable houses for you to do who knows what inside, the internet is a double edged sword
its too free for governments and industries to just trust the users to act responsible and too free to be controlled within the limits of most constitutions which blurres the lines that separate what a state is allowed to do and what not which in turn gives the government too much power for the people to trust it to act responsible with that power
OddlyIncredible You seriously think they are unaware?
And the problem that anyone who's decent at programming can make one way encryption within at most a few hours.
Amen
Which is odd, because physical locks also can't distinguish between a good guy and a bad guy-just someone who can shove the pins in the right way and someone who can't.
"On the internet, distance is not a thing that exists.". Tell that to the ping on Rocket League when it's on a different continents servers.
Tell that to all the Geo IP databases.
This is true
In this context (breaking into digital clock) ping does not matter.
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furthermore a "private government key" is only going to be "private" for a short period of time, and after that - all locks are open for everyone. also beeing part of of the government/police/whatever doesn't mean you're not a criminal.
+JohannaMueller57 that is my biggest problem with this. the FBI is full of criminals with badges that do the exact same thing the criminals are doing, with the only difference being their stated intent and government sanctioning. its like having a known house robber insist that he have a master key to get into your house quickly and easily, but only for "official business".
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Brilliant. Very important to raise awareness of these issues.
Breaking into a terrorists phone today leads to breaking into a "terrorists" phone tomorrow leads to breaking into your phone next week.
I love it when you say "good luck. with that." you just sound so salty!
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As much as I love words, refuting legitimate words with synonyms is inherently flawed. These are all words.
@Suffer No Fools Whaaaaaat?
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@Suffer No Fools lol if you said i have an iq of 140 i wouldve posted it on r/iamverysmart
@Suffer No Fools 'cause your 'showing off' how many words you know which really just makes you sound dumb
Digital locks that wipe information when tampered with is no different than a physical safe that destroys its contents when forcefully opened. As a consumer, it's my decision if I want such a feature.
If the government attempts to make such things illegal, the criminals that want such features will simply create (or hire someone to create) such features.
It's really not hard, you can find pseudo code for encryption with a simple google, so you don't even have to understand how the encryption works to build it.
IMO that feature does more harm than good, since you have unbreakable digital locks, there is no need for such a thing.
@@damnstupidoldidiot8776 What if you are tortured for the password by some organization in the US government that has a history of (secret) kidnap and torture of citizens (*cough* most of them *cough*)? In particular I would suggest a likely candidate to be a 3 letter agencies starting with C (see M K Ultra) that illegally operates on US soil all the time and has said they want everything the America public believes to be false (about everything I guess? it wasn't specific enough but it seems to have been successful and not just in the US). Then you need an unbreakable lock whose box is also undetectable and a decoy box or a box that destroys itself immediate when you give them the wrong password.
@@sadrien You say that as if that's likely to happen to you. I can reassure you that you are 100000 times more likely to forget your password.
@@sadrien if they’re already torturing you and you open you show them nothing’s in your phone they’ll just keep going asking where the other phone is. Once your in that room they’re no convincing them they got the wrong guy
Grey, that ages of civilization chart looks like it could make an interesting video
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Except it's based on a historical fallacy and isn't at all relevant to real history.
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+Shlomo Shekelburgistien your name and profile pic are so stupid they hurt my eyes, frend. GTFO.
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"Forced weakness, even with the best of intentions, places everyone in danger... No matter how much we might wish it, there is no way to build a digital lock that only angels can open and demons can not. Anyone saying otherwise is either ignorant of the mathematics, or less of an angel than they appear."
Nailed it.
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Good speech. Please change the profile pick it’s putting me on edge.
That pfp is triggering
At first I thought a bug was on my screen then I saw the bug move with your profile pic. What is that bug doing there??? But it is cool
Have the software store two copies: one is encrypted with the whatever key the user wants, and the other is encrypted with a public key to which the private counterpart is retained by the angels. Part of the definition of angels is that they won't maliciously hand over their key to the demons. If the lock on your copy is unbreakable, so is the lock on the access-by-warrant copy.
It's clunky, doubling the storage requirement. But the point is to demonstrate that it's possible, not to figure out the best way.
You just made me worried about my house being broken into now. :(
+frumbert Haha
+joojr2779 Get medeco locks and make sure your doors and windows are not ancient and you'll be fine.. sure they can still take a battering ram to it, but the rarely do. Only a tiny amount of the worlds population can get into a medeco in under 20 minutes :)
+joojr2779 i have left the dorr open of my house whe i when to work by accident and i live in a crime infested third world country and nothing was stolen.
+joojr2779 put a sign that your house is protected by the second amendment.
+joojr2779 Ever watched a fire department perform a "forcible entry"? They can get into a standard locked and deadbolted front door in 30 seconds, they pretty much pry it off the frame. And in the case of a high security door they'll simply go through the drywall next to the door.
Locked doors are more about not being an easy target than being an impenetrable barrier.
3:52 "Banking, buying, blogging, vlogging, gaming, tweeting, beating, meating..."
*W O A H T H E R E*
*S L U G G E R !*
I'm glad someone else noticed that
Isn't that what the internet is for?
Why don't watermelons have locks to keep people from eating them
Sorry
+Watermelon They do, it's called a rind.
The wild watermelon was once top of the food chain, having no natural predators able to break into their locks. For millennium they reined supreme, and it was an era of peace and love. Then humans discovered the watermelon. Being naturally curious, they wondered what was inside, so they chose two watermelons with the smallest and weakest locks and forced them to breed. They then took those offspring and once again forced the weakest locks to bread. They did this for generation to generation of watermelon, until eventually we arrive at the modern watermelon, a shadow of its former glory, with no locks to protect themselves.
+NateTheNerdy quite an information you got there. Bravo!
+Watermelon The point of a fruit is to be eaten. That's like asking why stores have their door open.
The best articulation of the pro-encryption argument I have heard to date. "The nature of the internet is to bring demons to the door." That may be the best line you have ever put in one of your videos.
The unsolvable issue: Bad people are more willing to do anything to get in, but good people have morals that keep them from using tools bad people use.
Did.... Did grey make a masturbation joke?
yes :) yes he did :)
+TheEvilVargon - I thought I caught that one too
+TheEvilVargon I had to back it up to make sure, but yep, looks like :-)
help when did he do that? 420 lel
Where?
I feel like it should also be mentioned that we had a master key debacle before: The Blu ray encryption key leak (AKA the AACS encryption key leak). All Blu-rays are encrypted via the same key, a key that "only angels" had access to, as per the video. Of course, one "devil" gets the key, and it's shotgunned all over the internet. Now everyone knows the 09F9 code and can find it on wikipedia. What happens when Snowden releases the cell phone master key to the world, or Lt. Cmdr. Lin sells it to the Chinese? It's amazing how naive politicians are when we have an example from the past week that there are "devils" in our police/intelligence community.
Yeah, we need more cryptographers and/or people who thoroughly understand the mathematics and possible effects the politician's relatively in-practice ineffective or devastating ideas might create to collaborate with lawmakers.
Why would snowden release the master cell phone key to the world when all he has done is argue against government spying and in favor of digital rights? You actually could not have picked a worse person to strawman.
@@blackfalcon1324 Because he leaked NSA data before? I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I think he's a hero for bringing to light what the NSA was doing. He's exactly the sort of person who would leak the master cell phone key because **the master cell phone key allows for government spying**. He'd release it so that cell phone manufacturers would be forced to abandon it, and so that the public would know about it. Point is, whether it's an hero of the people or a spy of the enemy, there will never be a key that "only angels" have access to.
Most politicians are out-of-touch old men who think they know better than anyone and will stubbornly ignore any and all evidence to the contrary
0:18 Also, if you secure your door, they break your window.
They will get in, your job is to deter them enough that they dont bother.
Entertaining and relevant! I love these videos.
hello notion! :O
+William Tannery howdy
+It's Hyulu Telling people that they should end their lives because they like something that you don't? Wow, aren't you just a saint.
+It's Hyulu ok brb
ok, honestly, who fucking cares? +yellowcrash10
How to password 101:
Sleep on your keyboard for 16 hours and copy and paste the password into a notepad. Done.
PurpleDroid
Yeah but there is no Guarantee you won't hit the ESCAPE. :)
Nice idea, store your password for everything in a plaintext file you made with notepad, then tell everyone on youtube. The file isn't named password.txt I hope
Daniel Galun this was from 20 days ago, its outdated af
Now it's passwordNEW.txt
Hey, I'm from East Whateverlandia and I take great personal offense to that comment about burglarizing foreigners. >:(
Some of us like to take care of home first. :D
…I… I seriously thought he said "Eastwood, Everlandia", and thought it was a clever but weirdly random and specific name for a fictional place. Thanks for setting me straight…
Maybe is because of a personal experience
I am from West Whateverlandia and I say that my country is 10 times better than yours
@@generalterrarian1672 You are all stupid. It's nicer here in North Whateverlandia.
@@abandonedchannel72929 you are all so stupid. We are all united now. United into the Glorious Republic of Whateverlandia. Forget these silly and childish divides
"No matter how much of a 1337 hacker your mom is..."
Is... is this an xkcd reference?
A year later, and i finally find another person who knows about both xkcd and grey, which are weirdly simular
Help I’m stuck in a drivers licence factory Elaine roberts?
My first thought too. Bobby Tables mom, is that you he's talking about?
First thing I thought of.
Yup. Clearly.
All these years watching and making TH-cam, I've never loved any other channel the way I love CGP Grey.
"If you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear."
What's in Area 51?
XD
Elvis?
No but seriously we know what Area 51 is... it's not a storage for Aliëns or Elvis for that matter, it's a military testing ground. New fighther jets and other weapons are tested there. During the Cold war they needed a secret base because Soviet spies where EVERYWHERE (becuz murica was so nice to everyone it's hard to believe the KGB was able to recruit people).
By this logic, write down your Facebook's ID and Password here now
why not ? because "If you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear."
that's a fail statement from the very first phrase
"don't have anything to hide"
find me one person in the 7 billions that fit the criteria
baby don't count because they don't have any information of the world to have secret, yet
YOU can do random stuff to my facebook account, so I won't give my password. I can share what I have in it, but i won't let anyone ruin it.
This video is incredible! You took this huge topic and broke it down to
only the information needed to understand it and also made it
entertaining. That is an art form that most people dont have the time
and (more important) the talent for. And I am allowed to enjoy this for
free, thank you!
Post Singularity - A.I. Kills us all.
Quantum Computing - F yo encryption!
Excellent man!
+enticed2zeitgeist Actually no, encryption really is virtually unbreakable.
+Bernard Cernea Not when quantum computing because i think i assume
+Bernard Cernea I don't personally understand how quantum computing works as I've seen conflicting anecdotal information in regards to it. On the one hand it will allow us to do tremendous amounts of calculations that modern cpu technologies can't reach, and then on the other hand I've seen that the kind of calculations it can do aren't practical for our everyday use. So I dunno ... I just thought his chart was humorous.
Watch Kurzgesagt's video on quantum computers
Yes they can you stupid idiot. Look up Shor's algorithm. A quantum computer which implements enough qubits and Shor's algorithm can wreck any kind of encryption exponentially faster than classical computers.
I love 3:14 with the Quantum computing (F yo encription) and singularity (A.I kills everyone.) Thanks for another great video.
"Forced weakness puts everyone in danger". You really hit the nail on the head when pertaining to gov't policy. If a gov't demands their citizens have phones that they can easily unlock, they are not in the business of protecting their citizens or their privacy. Really makes you think about how out-of-touch the US Gov't is lately.
+falconer02 Right and not just the US government but governments all over the world are following the same path. One of the big issues is trying to separate which ones of our representatives are malicious and which ones are just ignorant. The average age of a US senator is 62 years. Congressperson is 57 years. Most of these people had were finished with college before my parents were out of highschool! They know nothing about technology or the concepts.
Wow, that was deep. Really cool to hear that from you. :o
Also, hi Falc! Didn't expect to see you here! :D
And when government defunds the police, they're also not in the business of protecting their citizens.
"No matter how much an elite hacker your mom is."
Was that an xkcd reference?
+Alanna R. Yup.
Not elite, 1337
Glorious Josephutopia IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW
Mrs. Roberts could get through anything, mathematics be damned!
YES I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE GOT THE REFERENCE
This video is so good, the script, the editing, the music, everything is perfect, Grey just keeps getting better.
gather round kids it's a CGP grey video
+the blue leader - HURRAY!
Yes kids
Beating,Meeting
Only need to wait a few more years for the next one!
Thank you for this video. I'm tired of all these idiots unaware of their own rights that will say "if you have nothing to hide you should be okay with it".
+TheNerdyResponder Policeman say "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", but when you ask Policeman to wear a camera while he works he suddenly thinks it's a bad idea.
+TheNerdyResponder Oh yes, some of my real-life friends who are otherwise not that stupid say they have nothing to hide. It really makes me wonder what will come of this world when so many are unaware of the implications of all these legal backdoors to encryption and government spying.
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is about
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For me emi option that will save the world from everything including global warming
All I get at present is stock-market apps. And thanks to the internet (bless its little silicon heart) the only thing that enters my mind in response to those is STONKS!
Did i spy a zoolander reference?
Yes.
+Sam Carpenter "The files are 'in' the phone?" 3:05
Of course! It's so simple!
+WHErwin That CJP Grey is so hot right now.
+WHErwin Nice picture. I love cookie clicker.
Excellently written and beautifully informative. You're getting even better at the CGP Grey. The mothership approves.
There was a wonderfull time when france forced insecure internet encryption. So the meta for attacking someone was to spoof the connection so their computer thought they where connecting TO france and dropped the encryption to match, even though neither the person nor the server where in france.
Then the hackers attacked the week encryption
My favourite 4 words in any CGPGrey video: "Good Luck With That."
+Syrahl696 I also quite like "As always, because empire." and "with bigger army diplomacy".
We are top chicken!
+Syrahl696 Its just the way he says it that makes it so amazing.
+Austin McIntyre bigger army diplomacy is my fave
Someone needs to stop those guys over at East Whateverlandia!
We will build a wall and make them pay for it!
#MakeWestWhateverlandiaGreatAgain
Who else wants to see a CGP/LockpickingLawyer collab? It would be the most informative yet relaxing thing ever.
I'm proud that I spot the game Factorio in a less than half-second flash.
3:53 FACTORIO! I KNEW IT! CGP Grey is a factorio-fan!
3:53 You put "beating" and " meeting" next to one another. Nicccccceeeee.
So who uses the same password everywhere?
+Valpas Kankaristo
Me! it's "doyoureallybelieveIwouldshowmypasswordinacommentsection"
+Valpas Kankaristo Probably best to keep that private. *Chuckles*
I always use a different variation of my password
+Valpas Kankaristo Password's aren't the same as encryption though. An encryption key is basically a password, but is different for each program/website/etc., but is usually something that the person doesn't know. In a perfect world passwords/keys wouldn't be something a human could even remember. That's why more secure two-factor authentication methods are being implemented where there's a chip in your card that has a code that nobody knows (until someone puts it into a machine reader) plus you have a PIN number that works in conjunction with that chip to make the REAL key. Lets say the chip says Aek#949sJ$3i2nns, and your pin is "1239", it could splice them together as the key 1-4,1-4,1-4,1-4: 1Aek#2949s3J$3i92nns
+Valpas Kankaristo I know I shouldn't, but I do.
The "done nothing wrong nothing to fear" argument is so idiotic that I can't even begin to grasp it.
Exactly! Everyone has something they would rather other people not know about. Everyone, even the goodie goodie people.
+snelpiller please explain why it's so idiotic because it seems logical to me
+Luke M Because of the point made in this video. There is no such thing as "angels" that would only use this kind of backdoor for good. You might at some point in your life have had opinions or values, or even had some sort of event in your life that you would not want others to know. Allowing these backdoors would mean that these would always be accessible. If you are convinced that your country and or government would never use information about you to pressure you into choices you are naive. An opinion that you have or had could suddenly be used against you. Banning encryption is a huge step towards a police state and furthermore, enabling these backdroors means they at some point would be leaked, allowing for criminals to access your information. Encryption is freedom of speech. Making it illegal only empowers the goverments. They want to use crime and terrorism as a reason for making it illegal but the fact is that encryption is only used for that in very small ammounts on the whole. The bombings in paris were made with conversations through open medias, not using encryption. Encryption is your right to freedom of speech, don't forget that and don't be so fast to trust your governments and hand them the keys to your life, your freedom is nothing that is carved in stone.
+Luke M
There are multiple parts to that.
"I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear" is like "I have nothing (controversial) to say, so I don't need free speech" and a little bit of "they took the Jews, but I was not a Jew. They took the ill, but I was not an ill. They took the gay, but I was not a gay"
So even if it doesn't effect you personally, it can effect society overall.
In our society, most ppl do things that are legal, but they don't want everybody to know. Ppl have committed suicide due to nude image of them being leaked. Now imagine a government or a criminal organization that wants to control ppl or silence their opposition. They could blackmail opposing ppl with private information, or leak private information to change the mind of the public. (An affair; some guild of association, cause they have a communist friend,...)
Think Edgar Hover who had FBI files about every celebrity and politician and used the power of information to intimidate many.
Oh and I don't think it is an idiotic, but a naive argument.
It makes some sense at first sight, so I would always favor to explain why, than to just state, that it is "idiotic".
(Even though I might do that aswell)
I absolutely love your videos CGPGrey, they're always wonderfully educational and thoroughly entertaining. Also, you have a beautiful voice, you should hit audible up and see if they'll let you narrate a book.
Everytime Grey says "Hello Internet", I expect there to do a secret annotation linking to the podcast :p
Banking, buying, blogging, vlogging, gaming, tweeting, beating, meeting. Technologic. Technologic.
+Minihood31770 I'll be beating your meeting
+Minihood31770 "Buy it, use it, break it, fix it, trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it, charge it, pawn it, zoom it, press it..."
I think it's time I apply my computer science skills in the great country of East Whateverlandia
OMG a CGP Grey video! Screw everything else!
once again grey bringing the voice of reason to the masses.
+brent bousquet
A MUCH needed breath of sanity.
The number of people I argue with about this very subject. Only yesterday in fact. Most folk apparently imagine the "authorities" can and are tracking and recording absolutely everything everyone is doing.
People let their imaginations run away with them.
Plus I'm sure you could hire someone to throw together a program that when the police key is used, all files are moved to a secondary location, and the originals deleted. Hell, the companies making the locks might add it themselves.
Corruption is still a problem, someone on the police force can sell the secondary location files, so who gets to know the password for those?
@@thomaswang2223 I think they meant this is a method to trick the police. The police wouldn't know about the second location or the key trigger, so they'd think they got in while, in reality, they'd only ever see what you wanted them to.
Thanks for getting me through an essay about the Fourth amendment of the Constitution because I was able to sort of connect it to this much more interesting topic!
2016 "Good luck with that."
2020 *Laughs nervously at AIs being built to censor content.*
what's als?
@@tarquinioprisco8459 AIs: Artificial Intelligence.
Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff,
cause why not?
Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)...
Here:
-Veritasium.
-Its ok to be smart.
-Oversimplified.
-Krosmo.
-Believe it or Not.
-Redditor.
-Hbomberguy.
-Michio Kaku.
-Practical Engineering.
-Neil Red.
-Viced Rhino.
3:43 Don't put beating and meeting next to each other in the same sentence.
got a lil poetic in the end there :D
Knight and Crow it was definitely well written :)
Get it CGP Grey! Individual liberty and privacy for all!
Funny password trick for making sure you have different passwords on everything but it's easy to remember: Take you favourite word, Write it with a capital first letter. Take the first and last letter of the site/app the password is for and write those. Take three numbers from your phone number. Big letters, small letters and numbers, but easy to remembers even as you end up with codes like Titfk876, Titye876 etc
honestly requiring caps and numbers and special characters is unnecesarry. what you really need from people is longer passwords.
allhorseseatwelshgrass
is dramatiaclly more secure than
ssZx12k
@@ymmijx6061 if one of your accounts are compromised and the site or platform doesn't encrypt password information, length doesn't matter. When the leaked information is sold by the hackers, others will try to use the same password for other platforms. The real winner is variety. Which is why a formula securing variety is smart. Big and small letters is just because some platforms require it. So adding it to your formula makes sure you can use it anywhere.
I don't want angels to be able to access my information either.
i get sooo excited whenever i see a new cgp video, its become the sherlock of my youtube life
+Alexander Soyoye CGP Grey holds the Sure-Locked guarantee of a worthy view.
Anyone else notice the Quantum Computer Age has the footnote "F yo encryption"?
google "Quantum Entanglement"
AES encryption (symmetric, same password to encode and decode) is still basically secure, only RSA (the asymmetric prime number modulus stuff, different key to encode and decode) is made easily breakable
@@coolguy284_2 yeah only asymmetric encryption is f*** up. Oh wait almost every internet security protocols use asymmetric encryption, at least for sharing a symmetric key. I don't feel like calling every website to get a symmetric key while browsing..
@@thesteaksaignant Then the FBI will do a wiretap and see your key.
@@coolguy284_2 haha then I don't know.. Send postcards? Pigeons ?
Is this about fbi and how they want a key for all iphones?
+Scott Ferrell They didn't figure it out by themselves, They got an Israeli company called Cellebrite Mobile Synchronization which specializes in data extraction and mobile forensics to do it for them.
+Scott Ferrell They didn't figure it out themsleves, they hired a third party outside the country to open it.
+thaghost It wasn't an israeli company that did it
+Princess Luna Then who was it? Every article I've read regarding it points to Cellebrite, Including one site who posted a purchase order claiming it to be related to the case with Cellebrite's US division as the vendor and DOJ/FBI as the ones who contracted it out.
Phone manufactures including finger print locks are a way for the govt to force you to unlock your phone when you have been arrested. Your password as text is considered speech and can not be forced, your finger print is physical evidence.
"beating, meeting" a double entendre of epic deviousness.
3:50 Scientifically proven, all smart people play Factorio.
hehe, I'm smart then.
@@PandemoniumMeltDown well not all people who play factorio are smart
But they don’t have to be, it’s fun nevertheless. I speak from experience
Little animation error at 2:48 with the arrowpoint in the left upper corner.
SHAME GREY. SHAAMMMEE!!
;)
+Sentinus Deus poor Grey, I can imagine how sad he'll be when he notices it. Don't worry Grey, you're doing great and we love you :)
The loch ness should remove its locks though. I want to see the monster.
+Cognito Unfortunately "loch" is pronounced "lokh" not "lok"
+Cognito Change his name to the Lockless monster!
As anonymous said, 'Loch' is not pronounced 'lock' just as the German word 'Ich' is not pronounced 'Ick'
***** This makes me sad... So very sad
It should remove it's lokhs!
5 Years Later: Not only have most modern countries passed one version of that law or another, turns out it barely mattered to begin with. Agencies have ALWAYS been able to break into phone, they just wanted to make it easier on themselves. Was revealed this year actually that phones are surprisingly easy to break into thanks to different levels of security based on its status n if ud turned it off recently.
Is there a link to an article or video you could provide?
Let me RANDOMLY recommend stuff,
cause why not?
Aaaand we're in a Quality-Drought (dont deny it!)...
Here:
-Veritasium.
-Its ok to be smart.
-Oversimplified.
-Krosmo.
-Believe it or Not.
-Redditor.
-Hbomberguy.
-Michio Kaku.
-Practical Engineering.
-Neil Red.
-Viced Rhino.
@@nenmaster5218 These aren't links, and "Redditor" is such a laughable "recommendation" considering how broad it is
@Kysier [citation needed]
@@ng.tr.s.p.1254 Whatever you say, Hun.
Am I the only one who gets pretty surprised and excited when Veritasium, Grey, or Vsauce uploads a video?
+Enrique Moran quality > quantity
Another CGP vid? Fk yeah. 2:48 a little animation error in upper left corner. FOR SHAME GREY xD
+CGP Grey senpai noticed me xDD
this is one of the most well done grey video ive seen in a long time. funny/clever writing, informative (duh), and it has such a suave atmosphere to it. don't get me wrong, i loved the star trek and "guns, germs, and steel" videos, but for some reason this one really stand out. great job.
Well explained Grey. This video was probably in response to the Apple-FBI debacle, and I couldn't possibly agree more. Freedom over safety.
This is not only about freedom vs safety but also about safety vs safety. A breakable lock would not only take away freedom from all of us but also personal safety. The phone contains just about every information about you that exists. Imagine how easy it would be for bad guys to hurt you if they had it all...
It isn't freedom vs safety. Someone would think that safety is more important and is a valid position. Keeping your privacy is freedom and safety, and cooperating with the police is just "safety". So it would be freedom and safety vs "safety".
The reason I write "safety" is because it isn't really safety. Is what CGP Grey is trying to say. Giving the police the key imply that a bad person would also be able to crack that key, so looking for safety wouldn't be safety at all.
+Broodrooster24 I don't see this as a response to the Apple-FBI debacle. The FBI went through law to try and get Apple to disable the 10 attempts and the device is wiped lock, maybe something that should be a setting controlled by Apple. Once disabled it still would have taken 50 years for the FBI to break the encryption or maybe not. Every device is hackable, even if Apple would rather have you believe that it isn't. I don't want Apple or any other tech company to build in breakable keys, that as this video says would be a really bad idea, but cooperation on not wiping the device after a number of attempts and maybe even advice on getting access to a dead terrorists iPhone, and just his iPhone no one else's, would surely be in the public interest. I don't think any of us want terrorists to operate knowing that they can communicate without being traced do we? Or do we need another 9/11 to make us realise that certain things should not be made untrackable.
+Broodrooster24 Not just that debacle. Some lawmakers have written a bill that'd mandate digital keyholes for the police.
nick012000 There should be some way that somewhere unconnected to the digital world there is a copy of a key, or something that would allow law enforcement after having been through a court of law to obtain said key and gain access. Couldn't this be created as Apple, Samsung, LG, HTC, and others do this before sale, hard coded into the phone itself and impossible to gain access to as it isn't in the connected online world? Do you really want criminals or terrorists to have somewhere they can hide all their contacts and communications so that nobody can find it?
My milkshakes bring all the demons to the yard
But is it better than mine?
Is that a cokiecliker reference
"Where'd all the files go?" X'D
😂😂😂
140 government agents are not happy with this vid 😂😂😂
Presumably I'm not the only one here who would buy the CGP Grey Phone in this video?
Police can enter our homes with a warrant, but nobody leaves their front door constantly standing wide open to let any random person wander in, which is what encryption backdoors amount to.
so that's what happened with that untitled project from CGPGrey2
For a minute I thought you are lost to the Dark Side ... I am glad that you didn't.
>Digital locks can be made unbreakable
CGP Grey casually asserting P!=NP
With the 2022 EARN IT act, this video is more relevant than ever right now.
With the 2022 Online Safety Bill, this video is ONLY GETTING MORE RELEVANT BY THE SECOND.
hope companies take heed to this video....
endymion Tech companies know this already. Lawmakers do not.
Basic rule: If someone, other than the person with the info, has the decryption code, then it's not encrypted anymore.
Want the data of your company to be safe? Then only people that NEED to access such data can have access to it, everyone else should be blocked. So, giving the government they "key" to every lock, is basically unlocking all lock alltogether.
Bomb in an orphanage, defusal code stored on file with unbreakable password, person who knows password is dead. Now find a way to fix that without messing with the bomb (we're going to assume that it's unreachable).
Paul Smith Evacuate the orphange. If you don't have time to that, you really don't have time for anything else.
After that, there are over a thousand methods to defuse said bomb, even blowing it up. If the bomb is just impossible to reach by any means, then probabily it's just so safe that, when it explodes, it will most likely not cause much damage.
Well the code is unbreakable by design so you can't stop it.
I was part of a criminal trial and while I was in a mental hospital they said they needed my password to my iPhone 4. They said if i didn't give it to them they would break into my phone and the way they were going to do it would break my phone... I didn't want them to open my phone... Does this mean I never had to give the court my password?
+Alex Mateo Obviously.
"we all ideally want police to crack digital locks sometimes" [citation needed]
The disarm code for a nuclear weapon in a major city is on the phone
All sane reasonable people want the police to be able to unlock that phone
The problem is whatever they use to unlock that phone will unlock all phones, thus the problem.
It's easy to think of such situations.
For example: pedophile has location of victim on his phone. Somewhere, a five year old is going to starve to death in the dark, unless the police get into the phone. Do you want them to get it open?
you can argue for literally any police power with that
@@spambot7110 Yes, that's the problem the video is about. There's extreme situations we can all agree it'd be great for police to access phones, but we have no way to ensure that a backdoor will only be used well. Sometimes we want police to be able to get into phones, there's just no acceptable method to allow them to.
i'm saying i don't want them to ever have access. not because it fundamentally weakens the phone against untrustworthy third parties, but because the police themselves are untrustworthy.
grey, i dont know how to do it, but youve always been my favorite youtuber. everyime i watch a video i learn so much useful information! thank you!
3:11 "We all want police to open digital locks *sometimes*"
No, we don't.
+Hayden Jones
Thank you. I am not the only one. The state has no business in my phone
+Hayden Jones Yes we do. For example, a recently deceased terrorists phone.
Who checked that they locked their doors after the first 10 seconds?
Banking, buying, blogging, vlogging, gamming,Tweeting, beating, meeting...
I lost it. Well done, good Sir.
Very well articulated.
He changed government girl. WHERE IS HER CONGRESS BURGER?
You just reminded me about the heat death and now I'm sad. Thanks.
"Less than an angel than the appear" My girlfriend comes to mind...
To make the statement at the end of the video rhyme and sound better, here is my version of it:
It is impossible to make a lock that angles can use and demons cannot
anyone who says other is either ignorant of the mathematics
or not as much of an angle as you thought.
Acute angles
As someone somewhat profession at network security, I’ve to admit the moment I realize you were on the topic of network security I was expecting you to screw up as those don’t program explain what programming is. But you really did your research and the content is plain while being accurate.
I love the "good. Luck. With. That"
3:54 “Beating *meating* “
CGP Grey forgot to mention the fact that criminals with a strong enough will will always be able to circumvent encryption backdoors whether it be by using another program, making their own or using older or foreign hardware to communicate. It simply reduces privacy for the majority of the population who can't be bothered to do such things.
Suppose some government has the warrant to enter your home. In America if you comply and allow the police in, they search your things and, so long as there isn't a warrant for your arrest, you get to stay home and watch them. You know what they get, where they go, and what they have changed. Even in the circumstance where you don't get to watch (at least in America) there is a discovery system by which you can still find out everything they know about your case.
At the end of the day, in every scenario, the government (US) still has to come to my front door, alerting me that they are interested in what I have inside, and if they have a permit, legally allowing them to enter the space by any means necessary.
If the government, instead of following that process, decided to go to the company that made the lock on my front door, and had that company install a master key system by which they could open any lock, the government would then have the ability to enter my house when I am not there, searching the space without my presence, consent, or even my knowledge of it happening. Maybe even damaging, hiding, or taking things without alerting me.
This lack of accountability is most people's concern when it comes to digital security.
If the Government is to enter my phone, I want the same rights as they were to enter any other property of mine. I need to be alerted, shown papers proving legitamacy of their right, and given the opportunity to consent. This is my main concern.
When the Government goes to the company who created the lock, rather than the individual who purchased it, the individual is no longer a part of the equation. For these backdoor systems to be created, the American people would need to be consulted, and we would need to consent to waiving those right for the promise of greater security as citizens, however we are not. We are being put in the high chair while the government and big business figure out what our privacy's value is worth in dollars.
My second concern is that, so far, no government agency is willing to prove the legitamacy of the risk of searching our digital tools. If someone comes to me with a warrant to enter my home, and I can prove that the warrant is faulty (wrong date, wrong address, wrong person) they leave my house. If they don't leave my house and decide to enter anyway, they waive the right to use any of the evidence that they find in the case, meaning that the risk of losing evidence is always far greater than the reward of getting it.
If a backdoor system is created in my digital property, I have 0 opportuinity to contest the legitamacy of a warrant, and that means that whoever has that key can go wherever they want. Spending time on your digital property, sifting through your things, and hearing and seeing everything you say and do. It's a textbook violation of the fourth ammendment, expanded into the digital world.