Thanks again Mr. Ali, it makes a lot of sense to manufacture according to the market needs. POF's new innovative products based on the G-3 platform look very decent.
Thanks salman bhai for sharing with us now we understand how you guys are doing hard work and research to get quality products for our army to defend our country. Salute
Good, need more videos like this ! I'm subscribing just because of this video, POF GR-3 kinda looks like HK G41 5.56 mm, it would be great to see that available on civilian market. I realise 7.62 X51 mm is restricted calibre. Has POF considered making G-3 in different calibres e.g 6.5 mm Creedmore, just need a different barrel from a regular G-3. How about converting old surplus G-3s into say .338 federal, all you need to do is take the barrel out, rebore it to 8.6 mm and sell on domestic market, I would buy it just for a wall hanger, new factory made semi auto G3 costs about 900 euros on international market. if you sell obsolete for about 500 euros, thats is just about enough to make a new one for the military
I love Pakistan,Pakistani Army and POF products. I love you brother Salman. You’re a really nice person, the way to explain the products very well. Thanks
@@salmanali-cm8rk Aslam o Alaikum Salman Bhai. I have 2 valid all Pakistan licenses, 9mm and .308. I need your help to buy POF .308 and 9mm PoF 5. Please send me outlet shop details. Thanks
Sar pk7 or pk 8 k baray ma jaan kar khushi bhi hui or afsos bhe Afsos is liya hua k hamari forses na type56 kharid li or ab os ko replace karny k liya russia sy phir 7.62x39 kharid li laikin apni pk7 ya pk8 ny kharidi hala k pk7 or pk8 baihtar or sasti sabit ho sakti thi
Brilliant approach Salman bahi, I know its not possible for you because of your routine, but please if you can arrange microphone for videos it will be amazing for your FANS including me.
7.62 x51 mm has a place in todays armies, the most important reason is that it is more POWERFUL then 5.56 x 45 mm, 7.62 x 39 mm soviet (AK-47 round) and 5.45 x 39 mm soviet (.222 in pak civilian terminology) As more and more armies issue armour ( bullet proof vests) to all of their forces in combat, 7.62 x51 can penetrate armour. Hopefully we can start work on 6.8 mm caseless or polymer case ammo, with about 9 to 10 gram bullet travelling at near 1 km per second.
GR3/HK33 could and perhaps should have been a Police weapon if the military didn't adopt it. The 7.62x39 round is overpowered for police use, and it could've led to development of a carbine GR3/HK53 variant. With the PK8/GR3 and PK7 POF delivered the goods, but the state (military and Police) markets missed the boat, and that probably cost export sales. You can't export what you're not making. Things will hopefully be better with the new rifles.
I think in terms of 9mm SMGs though, for police use, POF could perhaps have explored buying a defunct project (the IP etc) such as the SITES Spectre M4 and making that in Pakistan for police use, and therefore avoiding having to pay HK royalties for the MP5.
Thank you so much Sir. I always wanted to know why the PK7 wasn't adopted. A small request sir if you could tell why it could not be sold to Police forces.
Salamaleikum, can you do a video on roller delayed blow back VS gaz operated ? You can adress to us which of these two platform is more accurate, reliable, cheap, complicated etc...
Because their job is to make weapons for national defence, not a commercial operation. They should make civilian variants of Pak military issue weapons, so when there is no orders from local or foreign governments, their staff still has something to do
How effective were these varients and how reliable was roller delayed blow back mechanism with assault rifle callibers. +Would pk7,pk8,gr3 be a good option compared to AR/AK platform if u needed these riffles in bigger quantity?
Well the projects didn’t go further because the military didn’t had a need for these calibers bk then . I don’t see why it will not perform.many militaries and forces have very successfully used 556 variant. Roller delayed blow back is a very dependable systems
Even if these designs are not adopted, they are needed. It was cheaper to buy type 56 from China then set up production, if we could not buy, then we have a back up option
5.56 mm is great, its light weight ammo BUT if your enemy is wearing armour (bullet proof vest) you need 7.62 x 51mm ! also 7.62 x 61 is better in the mountains, if you are in a defensive position, you can see you enemy very far way
Sir i have many questions 1 what kind of machinery do pof use 2 do pof use cnic machines 3 can same standard be achieved on cnc machines as the orignal one . 4 why don't pof let some private small arms company to manufacturers these. It will give you stable supply lines of these pk7 pk8 gr3 produce as well as you can sell them abroad. These are very fine products
Well all depends on the job. We use CNC, NC and conventional machining Yes we do use CNC infact we were probably the first one to use in Pakistan years before any one ever started using it. As for private sector POF has helped built many private vendor around pakistan and often outsource our orders to them on annual basis. Naturally we do expect certain level of quality. Alson in Karachi and Dawood sons in peshawar are prime examples of POF private partner ship that make good quality products for defence and export.
Salman sir pof 5.45×39 ammunition manufacturing start karaa iskeee pakistan ki civilian market ma bohat demand ha and also manufacturing bakelite mags huge demand in all pakistan
بھائی پی او ایف کو سویلین کے لیے سمال کنسیل کیری پسٹل جیسے cz p07 اور سٹوگر کوگر 9mm جیسے ہتھیاروں پر فوکس کرنا چائیے۔ سویلین کے پاس سمال ہتھیار نہیں ہیں
G3 was a great weapon from 1950s to about late 1990s. Reason for being so attached is that POF has licence, experience and tools to make it, so it is cheap. G3 does the job even though it is not the latest and greatest. Pak military wins not because of latest and greatest technologies BUT with great WARRIORS. The downside of G3 i the weight and length. Modern 7.62 x 51 mm can weigh as little as 3.8 kg and if in Bullpup configuration only around 80 cm length (about 30 inches)
sir why still our forces are using chinese AK's. like i think POF has the capability and capacity to make weapons like smg also.. why are we still buying them instead of making our own and relying on POF rather than imported weapons
Bad habit that I am in process of fixing. I speak three languages. Problem is i speak them all at the same time. Some thing I am trying to fix. Create each content in 2 languages is some thing that my future plan.
The ballistic on 5.56 is better then 7.62 then why pak army is still sticking to this calibre? even russians are moved out and inducted 5.45. Also POF should need to invest more in R&D, marketing and some new fresh telant.
Who is going to pay for it ? Pakistan's economy is not doing that well! if you can give a few billion euros to Pak government, maybe they will acquire latest and greatest toys : )
Assalam o Alaikum Kia POF se (223 / 5.56*45 nato bullet) caliber kee gun ml jaye gee or ktny keee mly geee Agr apka Whstapp nmbr ml skta hey tu kindly share kr deyn for more information Thanks
Pak army zindabad Pakistan paindabad 🇵🇰❤️
Zabardast triple S short sweet and simple explanation. Great Job Sir Allah aap ko khush rakhe InshaAllah ameen
Jab k 5.56 6.72 Sy ziyadh effective bullet hai ! Good work sir all the best
Thanks again Mr. Ali, it makes a lot of sense to manufacture according to the market needs. POF's new innovative products based on the G-3 platform look very decent.
It's so nice to see good videos coming from professionals. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more technical discussions
Great initiative, quality content, lots of misunderstandings have been cleared, keep it up Sir
Very cool! It would be awesome to see in-depth videos of these rifles!
Thanks salman bhai for sharing with us now we understand how you guys are doing hard work and research to get quality products for our army to defend our country.
Salute
Bhai regularly videos upload kia kry
Keep It Up
Good Luck 🇵🇰
Good, need more videos like this ! I'm subscribing just because of this video, POF GR-3 kinda looks like HK G41 5.56 mm, it would be great to see that available on civilian market. I realise 7.62 X51 mm is restricted calibre. Has POF considered making G-3 in different calibres e.g 6.5 mm Creedmore, just need a different barrel from a regular G-3. How about converting old surplus G-3s into say .338 federal, all you need to do is take the barrel out, rebore it to 8.6 mm and sell on domestic market, I would buy it just for a wall hanger, new factory made semi auto G3 costs about 900 euros on international market. if you sell obsolete for about 500 euros, thats is just about enough to make a new one for the military
We do make and sell in 308 which is legal in Pakistan
@@salmanali-cm8rk price kya h sir?
I love Pakistan,Pakistani Army and POF products. I love you brother Salman. You’re a really nice person, the way to explain the products very well. Thanks
Thank you. Appreciate it
@@salmanali-cm8rk Aslam o Alaikum Salman Bhai. I have 2 valid all Pakistan licenses, 9mm and .308. I need your help to buy POF .308 and 9mm PoF 5. Please send me outlet shop details. Thanks
Allah pak ap ko hamesha khush rahke ameen
Thank you
Gud job salman bhai
AllAH aap ki madad kre. Aameeen. All our preyers r for ur success.
Thank you
Keep videos coming! 💝
Sar pk7 or pk 8 k baray ma jaan kar khushi bhi hui or afsos bhe
Afsos is liya hua k hamari forses na type56 kharid li or ab os ko replace karny k liya russia sy phir 7.62x39 kharid li laikin apni pk7 ya pk8 ny kharidi hala k pk7 or pk8 baihtar or sasti sabit ho sakti thi
Mashallaah good working pof Pakistan Zindabad
Brilliant approach Salman bahi, I know its not possible for you because of your routine, but please if you can arrange microphone for videos it will be amazing for your FANS including me.
Will do bhai
❤@@salmanali-cm8rk thank you salman bahi
Pls don't forget .308 win sporter review.
V nice video
sir pls upload regularly these videos are greatly appreciated
7.62 x51 mm has a place in todays armies, the most important reason is that it is more POWERFUL then 5.56 x 45 mm, 7.62 x 39 mm soviet (AK-47 round) and 5.45 x 39 mm soviet (.222 in pak civilian terminology) As more and more armies issue armour ( bullet proof vests) to all of their forces in combat, 7.62 x51 can penetrate armour. Hopefully we can start work on 6.8 mm caseless or polymer case ammo, with about 9 to 10 gram bullet travelling at near 1 km per second.
زندہ باد بھائی
لیکن اسلحہ عوام کے لیے بھی تیار کریں
اللہ تعالیٰ آپ پر رحم فرمائے آمین
Thank you
GR3/HK33 could and perhaps should have been a Police weapon if the military didn't adopt it. The 7.62x39 round is overpowered for police use, and it could've led to development of a carbine GR3/HK53 variant.
With the PK8/GR3 and PK7 POF delivered the goods, but the state (military and Police) markets missed the boat, and that probably cost export sales. You can't export what you're not making. Things will hopefully be better with the new rifles.
Agree 100 percent
I think in terms of 9mm SMGs though, for police use, POF could perhaps have explored buying a defunct project (the IP etc) such as the SITES Spectre M4 and making that in Pakistan for police use, and therefore avoiding having to pay HK royalties for the MP5.
Salman Bhai pk18 rifle ka kia bna us ko khatam kar dia GIA hai ya nahi
Good job brother may Allah bless you
A.o.a
Sir kch bw21 k baray mn btain kindly...
AOA sir pof 223 bore may koi civilian rifel introduce nahi karwati
Sir hamari piyari army K sat Jo bat folding wali AK gun hee iska nam kia hee or ye china K taaon se target kia gia hee ?
Very informative ... learning a lot ...
🇵🇰 پاکستان زندہ باد 🇵🇰
What kind of assault rifle civilians can purchased ?
Salm janb pof ke pestal kaha sa mejege jo pof k shop ho
Pakistan Zindabad
Bohath achi guns hay civilian khareed saktay hay ya un k leay or caliber hay
308 and 9mm civilian can buy
Thank you so much Sir.
I always wanted to know why the PK7 wasn't adopted. A small request sir if you could tell why it could not be sold to Police forces.
Because its alot cheaper to buy old/used Chinese type 56 then to set up production
Sir PK18 or BW20 and 21?
What are some if any, red dot or holographic sights POF produces? Does the Pak army use any?
POF does not manafacture optical sights
Salam shortgun k b review banawo . W H. industry ka ho plz.
Is pof planning to make 5.56 in near future???
Salamaleikum, can you do a video on roller delayed blow back VS gaz operated ? You can adress to us which of these two platform is more accurate, reliable, cheap, complicated etc...
Sir,
Provide details on PK 18 ( new 7.62 * 51 mm rifle by POF ) . And its comparison w.r.t SIG 516 acquired by Indian Armed Forces.
Mujy POF 223/5.56 *45 caliber gun chahey kha se mly gee or ktny geee
soun issue ... sir mic sahi use kare .. sonni me bare mushkil hote hy ... clear awaz nahi hy
Salman Bhai Pk 18 b koi gun bnai ha ap ny
Holy crap! There was just enough english thrown in there for me to follow along :D
Interesting to see a GR3 "in the wild" so to speak.
Ya I have a bad habbit of merging 3 languages when I speak
@@salmanali-cm8rk You mean a good habit :)
It sure helped me.
@Oddball_E8 glad it did
Sir what about type56 . Why Pakistan use this over Russian Ak . Wich one is better in your opinion. If you tell us type56 story.. kindly. 🌹❤️🌹
Type 56 is Chinese made AK copy, both will do the job. which ever is CHEAPER is better : )
Sir plz make
som separate video on this rifle
pk 18 awar pk 21 Rifle ka kia huwa??
as its late 2022, and .222, .223 and .308 are legal for civilians so pof should make some civilian versions in competitive prices.
Why you not manufacturing hunting rifles and spots pistol for civilian. And please guide us how we civilian parches of POF weapons
Because their job is to make weapons for national defence, not a commercial operation. They should make civilian variants of Pak military issue weapons, so when there is no orders from local or foreign governments, their staff still has something to do
We do Win sporter and POF4 and 5 are available. You need a valid licences to procure it
Log gher Mulki weapon kharedty Hain jab k POF k weapon world class level k Hain POF ko Civil market per Kam Karna chahiyeh
How effective were these varients and how reliable was roller delayed blow back mechanism with assault rifle callibers.
+Would pk7,pk8,gr3 be a good option compared to AR/AK platform if u needed these riffles in bigger quantity?
Well the projects didn’t go further because the military didn’t had a need for these calibers bk then . I don’t see why it will not perform.many militaries and forces have very successfully used 556 variant. Roller delayed blow back is a very dependable systems
Mashallah
By those videos I have observed so many on going projects for Pak army rifle replacement program but none of these projects materialize sir.
Why?
Even if these designs are not adopted, they are needed. It was cheaper to buy type 56 from China then set up production, if we could not buy, then we have a back up option
Sir is there any chances to start production again of the models Pk8 or other civil demands weapons for civilians.??
What of bw 21 rifles ?
LONG LIVE POF
A-o-A
Sir is GR3 (5.56) rifal is available for local people of Pakistan now ?
These rifles are closed projects hence not for sale
Sir 5.56 and 223 ek hai ya different
Sahb Thora uncha bolain
Shru K part me awaz bht ahishta hai
Kia ye civilians ko available hain
Civilians k liy konsy weapons available hain? And kindly recommend website or authorized dealer
Does POF manufacture Type56 today
Nice
Slm Sir, kya pk8 kharid sakty hain???
No bhai
223 ye jo aap ne dekhai hai kia civilians ko bhi miley gi k nahi...
No project was closed
Sir hamari guns ka design boht purany hain
Why POF doesn't make a assault rifle like M4 carbine
5.56 by 45 NATO caliber and NATO standard hey Kya ye caliber boht halka ya na kamyab hey ya phr army ki zarort ko pora nhi krta
5.56 mm is great, its light weight ammo BUT if your enemy is wearing armour (bullet proof vest) you need 7.62 x 51mm ! also 7.62 x 61 is better in the mountains, if you are in a defensive position, you can see you enemy very far way
Sir i have many questions
1 what kind of machinery do pof use
2 do pof use cnic machines
3 can same standard be achieved on cnc machines as the orignal one .
4 why don't pof let some private small arms company to manufacturers these. It will give you stable supply lines of these pk7 pk8 gr3 produce as well as you can sell them abroad. These are very fine products
Well all depends on the job.
We use CNC, NC and conventional machining
Yes we do use CNC infact we were probably the first one to use in Pakistan years before any one ever started using it.
As for private sector POF has helped built many private vendor around pakistan and often outsource our orders to them on annual basis. Naturally we do expect certain level of quality. Alson in Karachi and Dawood sons in peshawar are prime examples of POF private partner ship that make good quality products for defence and export.
Salamn sb. Did POF ever manufactured the type 56 Ak 47?
No never did
@@salmanali-cm8rk❤
We need a new calibre which is in between 6.5 and 7 mm.
That’s for the military to decided
Sir pof 5.45mm bullet bnati he
No
@@salmanali-cm8rk thanks sir
Salman sir pof 5.45×39 ammunition manufacturing start karaa iskeee pakistan ki civilian market ma bohat demand ha and also manufacturing bakelite mags huge demand in all pakistan
سر مجھے اس کے کاکنگ ہینڈل سے سخت نفرت ہے، اگر اسے بہتر جگہ پر کر لیا جائے تو اسے سے بہتر گن کوئی نہیں۔
Sal, are you at the POF in official capacity?
Bhai pof ki koi shop py gun mil sakti ya pistol lisance holder's k liy
Yes
Salman bhai kaha hy pof ki shop
💞💕
Sir G3 ka license banta hai k nahi..?
Semi auto 308 licence banta ha
Please make video on pof ak 47
Sir what Pakistan Army do on the weapons they make in Pakistan ordinance factory
Defend Pakistan
Sir pof mai 5.45 caliber hothi hai?
No
@@salmanali-cm8rk or 5.56 ammo 223 gun pe fire ker sekte hai?
بھائی پی او ایف کو سویلین کے لیے سمال کنسیل کیری پسٹل جیسے cz p07 اور سٹوگر کوگر 9mm جیسے ہتھیاروں پر فوکس کرنا چائیے۔ سویلین کے پاس سمال ہتھیار نہیں ہیں
Sir when civilian will get bw20-21 model and on which price ??
Yes they will . Price is yet to be decided
@@salmanali-cm8rk thats great news, if the priced is between 150k to 200k pof will get max. Sells insha'Allah
G3 design bohat purana ha modern design par kam karny ki zarorat ha 🙄😒
Well it’s younger than Ak and AR
It still does the job, modern designs offer 2 advantages, weight and length
Why is POF so much attached with G3? Almost, Each & every assault rifle of POF is based upon G3.
Good point ..
Local production, Experience,stopping power,accuracy ,reliability and range
Cause it accurate ,reliable and very robust
G3 was a great weapon from 1950s to about late 1990s. Reason for being so attached is that POF has licence, experience and tools to make it, so it is cheap. G3 does the job even though it is not the latest and greatest. Pak military wins not because of latest and greatest technologies BUT with great WARRIORS. The downside of G3 i the weight and length. Modern 7.62 x 51 mm can weigh as little as 3.8 kg and if in Bullpup configuration only around 80 cm length (about 30 inches)
you should watch his g3 extreme conditions tests, salman bahi explained why POF and army is so much attached to G3 functionality framework.
Pof gun expansive for Pakistan local gun market and Pakistan local preferred Dara adam khal local workshops
Well you have to pay for quality : ) I like German cars, they are expensive but for driving over 500,000 km is not a problem for them
@@sturmgewehr3908 yeah many people are pay for quality gun in Pakistan but small number people
we should contact and I need help to make my gun I have design a new gun for pak arms forces caliber in 5.56
sir why still our forces are using chinese AK's. like i think POF has the capability and capacity to make weapons like smg also.. why are we still buying them instead of making our own and relying on POF rather than imported weapons
When our forces brought 762x39 at that time POF was not making any rifle chambered in 762x39
@@salmanali-cm8rk got it.thanks
very poor sound quality, please do something to improve this thing.
please speak louder or use some mike hahah
Pak army replace their type 56 in future
اگر زیادہ انگریزی بولنے سے پرہیز کیا جائے تو بات آسانی سے سمجھ میں آتی، چینل آپ کا ہے اپ کی مرضی
🌐 🎄 💦 🐦
Why are you speaking half in English?
Bad habit that I am in process of fixing. I speak three languages. Problem is i speak them all at the same time. Some thing I am trying to fix. Create each content in 2 languages is some thing that my future plan.
Sir your products finishing very poor.
The ballistic on 5.56 is better then 7.62 then why pak army is still sticking to this calibre? even russians are moved out and inducted 5.45.
Also POF should need to invest more in R&D, marketing and some new fresh telant.
Ugly guns 🤦🏻♂️
Even 80 years old STG44 looks better then these... POF needs to focus on design.
Who is going to pay for it ? Pakistan's economy is not doing that well! if you can give a few billion euros to Pak government, maybe they will acquire latest and greatest toys : )
Assalam o Alaikum
Kia POF se (223 / 5.56*45 nato bullet) caliber kee gun ml jaye gee or ktny keee mly geee
Agr apka Whstapp nmbr ml skta hey tu kindly share kr deyn for more information Thanks